Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 10/13/10 11:49 AM, James Bailey wrote: On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: Any chance the full-measure/multi-measure problem will get fixed? How can we merge a multi-measure rest with a part-measure rest? Unless things have changed, even trying to merge multi-measure rests with other multi-measure rests doesn't work. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 Perhaps I misunderstood. I quote from the snippet: When two (or more) voices on a staff share common rests, common engraving practice merges these rests into one. The following snippet takes care of that, automatically. Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined. Should this say ...full-measure rests and multi-measure rests... ? Measures 2 and 3 of the snippet have full-measure rests that don't get combined (upper and lower staves are the same). I was assuming that this was a problem that hasn't been solved yet. Is it in fact common engraving practice to leave both overlapping rests in if they are full-measure rests? I think that it looks better to leave out both the full-measure rests in measures 2 and 3. Thanks again guys. Sorry about the delay in responding. I don't get to the office every day anymore. :-)) -- ++ Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. .. boat storage under house with wench .. I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I ...can't understand what is or is not fact because of the legal ease... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 10/11/10 6:22 PM, James Bailey wrote:
On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:32:48PM -0400, James Wilkinson wrote:
On 9/23/10 6:00 PM, Vicente Solsona wrote:
if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus
you:
1) save typing
2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things
and it can concentrate on the big stuff :)
you just need to create a third voice with spacers and all the common
marks, in parallel with the other two:
I'm not at all certain that's a good idea. The dynamics won't be
present in MIDI (which is probably no great loss), but more
importantly, it messes up the semantics for no particularly good
reason.
Maybe I misunderstand, but if I do:
{
\relative c' { c4 d e f { g a g f } \\ { e2 d } e4 f e d c1 }
{s1\mf s4\ s\! s\ s\! s1\p s }
}
The dynamics show up in the MIDI. And if they're separated into variables, I
can change the dynamics and the music independantly and easily, without fuss or
muss.
I ran this and got the dynamics on a separate staff with no notes. I
don't think that's what you meant.
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Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
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(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424
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If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be
profectionist.
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse.
I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be.
It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could
care less.
.. boat storage under house with wench ..
I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I
...can't understand what is or is not fact because of the legal ease...
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Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 10/11/10 5:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:32:48PM -0400, James Wilkinson wrote: On 9/23/10 6:00 PM, Vicente Solsona wrote: if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus you: 1) save typing 2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things and it can concentrate on the big stuff :) you just need to create a third voice with spacers and all the common marks, in parallel with the other two: I'm not at all certain that's a good idea. The dynamics won't be present in MIDI (which is probably no great loss), but more importantly, it messes up the semantics for no particularly good reason. Graham, could you elaborate a little on this. I'm wondering what you think is the best way to handle this. I tried it this way and the score looks mostly good, but I don't like what I get when I print parts. I can say more about that later after I play with it a bit more. When I put the dynamics in with the notes, everything looked great as long as each voice had its own staff; score and parts. thanks ++ Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. .. boat storage under house with wench .. I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I ...can't understand what is or is not fact because of the legal ease... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 10/11/10 6:19 PM, James Bailey wrote:
2) In another measure the upper voice has a quarter rest followed
by a half note on the bottom line of the staff. The lower voice has
a dotted half rest. The problem here is that the half note in the
upper voice is so low on the staff that it prints over the rest in
the lower voice. These voices share a staff in the score, but not
in the individual parts.
Can you actually provide an example of how you've done this? I can't
for the life of me figure out how you get the collision.
Yo! And note how it's fixed in the second measure! The quarter rest
is high on the staff in measure one (I thin) because
merge-rests-on-positioning can't handle full-measure rests, so I decided
to chop the R2. up into r4 r2 in the second measure to see if that
wouldn't fix it. Not only fixed that, but fixed the problem that started
this whole thing. I'm inordinately pleased with myself. (druther be
lucky than good)
Any chance the full-measure/multi-measure problem will get fixed?
Oh, yeah. Why is the Preferences... entry dead on the Lilypond menu?
Mac OS 10.4.11.
---
\version 2.13.31
\include English.ly
\include merge-rests.ly
FanfareTbeIIMusic =
{\relative c''
{
\transposition bf
\key c \major
\clef treble
\time 3/4
r4 e,2 r4 e2
}
}
FanfareTbeIIIMusic =
{\relative c''
{
\transposition bf
\key c \major
\clef treble
\time 3/4
R2.r4 r2
}
}
FanfareTbeDynamics =
{
\time 3/4
s4 s2\mp s2.
}
\score {
\new Staff = Staff_trumpetI {
\set Staff.instrumentName = #Trumpet I
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = trp I
\set Staff.midiInstrument = trumpet
\FanfareTbeIIMusic
\\ \FanfareTbeIIIMusic
\\ \FanfareTbeDynamics
}
\layout {
\context
{
\Score
\override RestCollision #'positioning-done =
#merge-rests-on-positioning
}
}
}
++
Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston
(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424
http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy
If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be
profectionist.
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse.
I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be.
It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could
care less.
.. boat storage under house with wench ..
I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I
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Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 9/23/10 6:00 PM, Vicente Solsona wrote:
When I put two voices on the same staff that have identical markings
for dynamics and tempo, Lilypond prints them both, one above the
other.
[...]
Back to my original question: if Lilypond can see that one of these
things needs to be moved, how hard would it be to have it determine
that they are identical and just not print one of them?
if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus
you:
1) save typing
2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things
and it can concentrate on the big stuff :)
you just need to create a third voice with spacers and all the common
marks, in parallel with the other two:
8---
\version 2.12.3 % should also work on 2.13
\relative c'' {
a b c d
} \\
\relative c' {
c d e f
} \\
{
s4\f s4\ s4-and markups too too s4\p
}
Took me a while to get around to it. Works like a champ. Thanks
Is there somewhere in the docs that I should have spotted this before
doing it wrong the first time?
++
Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston
(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424
http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy
If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be
profectionist.
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse.
I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be.
It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could
care less.
.. boat storage under house with wench ..
I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I
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Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
So I finally separated the dynamics from the notes, and it works! But I had a couple of problems: 1) Whenever both instruments have a rest, Lilypond stacks them vertically. James Bailey sent me a link to a snippet that fixes that. (How did he know that was going to be my next problem?) My question is, Why is that a snippet? Given that merging the rests is the standard way to engrave them under those circumstances, could Lilypond not just do it and make me have to find a different snippet if that's not what I want? Or at just provide the merge-rests-on-positioning function and mention it in the docs? 2) In another measure the upper voice has a quarter rest followed by a half note on the bottom line of the staff. The lower voice has a dotted half rest. The problem here is that the half note in the upper voice is so low on the staff that it prints over the rest in the lower voice. These voices share a staff in the score, but not in the individual parts. I know I can fix this using tags, but that's labo(u)r intensive in the general case, and I wonder if there's a better way. I don't even know what the engraving convention is for this circumstance. I could suppress the lower voice entirely and let the stem direction identify the note as upper voice. Or should I move the rest down below the staff so it doesn't collide with the notehead? Either way, I want to do this only when trumpetII and trumpetIII share a staff, i.e. in a score. thanks ++ Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. .. boat storage under house with wench .. I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
On 10/11/10 5:22 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:32:48PM -0400, James Wilkinson wrote: On 9/23/10 6:00 PM, Vicente Solsona wrote: if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus you: 1) save typing 2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things and it can concentrate on the big stuff :) you just need to create a third voice with spacers and all the common marks, in parallel with the other two: I'm not at all certain that's a good idea. The dynamics won't be present in MIDI (which is probably no great loss), but more importantly, it messes up the semantics for no particularly good reason. 8-( When I first brought this up, that answer seemed to be the consensus, so I gave it a go. Now I don't know what to do. If there's a better way, I'd love to hear it. Or am I back to my original idea of having Lilypond remove the duplicate dynamic marks on its own? thanks ++ Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. .. boat storage under house with wench .. I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minor inconsistency in \paper-settings?
On 10/3/10 3:45 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
It would seem desirable to have a warning message when a non-existent
property is set in a \paper{} block.
Why not whenever a non-existent property is set anywhere?
++
Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
ji...@cs.cofc.edu | The College of Charleston
(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424
http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy
If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be
profectionist.
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse.
I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be.
It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could
care less.
.. boat storage under house with wench ..
I won't get into specifics because that was between he and I
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notes sharing stems
\version 2.13.34 I've got three percussion voices sharing a staff. When I made the bottom two voices be \voiceTwo and \voiceFour, I got downward stems, but each note had its own stem. Then I tried making them both be \voiceTwo. That gave me the printed output that I wanted: when notes coincide, they share a stem. However, I got lots of ignoring too many colliding note columns warnings. Warnings make me nervous. I'm considering putting both those parts in a single voice and writing chords when notes coincide. Anybody have a better suggestion? thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.13.34-1 freezes when updating syntax (Mac 10.4)
Gets to the point of saying Applying conversion: and just stops Others might understand this, but I haven't a clue what you're saying. Could you be a little more specific about what you're doing and what is happening? (head hanging in shame; must have been getting late) I was using Lilytool in jEdit. There's a button there to update versions. When you do that it reports progress in a console window. The last message that it printed was Applying conversion. Nothing after that. It always worked before. The version number at the top of the .ly file wasn't changed. I don't think there was anything else in the file that needed changing, but don't really know that. I had used this button a number of times before and got different results, so this was a surprise. I tried it later in Windows and got a similar result. -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.13.34-1 freezes when updating syntax (Mac 10.4)
At 4:26 PM -0400 9/28/10, James Wilkinson wrote: I was using Lilytool in jEdit. There's a button there to update versions. When you do that it reports progress in a console window. The last message that it printed was Applying conversion. Nothing after that. It always worked before. The version number at the top of the .ly file wasn't changed. I don't think there was anything else in the file that needed changing, but don't really know that. I had used this button a number of times before and got different results, so this was a surprise. I tried it later in Windows and got a similar result. There was a post a few days ago noting that the 2.13.34 version changed the \version line at the top of the file to 2.13.31. That probably made me think that nothing had happened since 2.13.31 was the version I started with. However; something about what I saw looked incomplete. I had done updates before and was expecting some indication that it had finished but never got one this time. I really should reinstall 2.13.31 to find out what I was expecting to see, strongly suspect that I won't. Since 2.14 is now available, it probably doesn't matter, anyway. -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
duplicate dynamics on same staff
\version 2.13.31 When I put two voices on the same staff that have identical markings for dynamics and tempo, Lilypond prints them both, one above the other. Looking in the archives the other day I saw that the approved solution is to pull these markings out and attach them to another voice that is all spaces. Now I can't find those postings. They were from 2003 as I remember. Do we have multiple archives of the mailing list? Or maybe I should just go check myself into a nursing home. :( Back to my original question: if Lilypond can see that one of these things needs to be moved, how hard would it be to have it determine that they are identical and just not print one of them? I don't even know whether this is a request for a new feature or for a pointer to an existing one. thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:00:07 +0200 From: Vicente Solsona vice...@lavabit.com Subject: Re: duplicate dynamics on same staff To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, James Wilkinson ji...@cs.cofc.edu Message-ID: op.vjh92hshql9...@vsd.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:19:05 +0200, James Wilkinson ji...@cs.cofc.edu wrote: \version 2.13.31 When I put two voices on the same staff that have identical markings for dynamics and tempo, Lilypond prints them both, one above the other. [...] Back to my original question: if Lilypond can see that one of these things needs to be moved, how hard would it be to have it determine that they are identical and just not print one of them? if the dynamics are the same, it's better to write them just once. thus you: 1) save typing Yes, if I were just starting, I would save typing. This time I didn't discover this problem until I already had it done the other way, so it's just going to be extra work. Yeah, I know I'm whining about the hour it's going to take,:( but then I'm retired :) so I have the hour available. Still it seems like an obvious thing for Lilypond to do even though it won't help me this time. Now that I know the right way to do this, it won't help me in the future either, unless I forget, which can't be ruled out at my age. :( :( 2) help lilypond so it does't need to waste time guessing obvious things and it can concentrate on the big stuff :) I prefer to let Lilypond take care of the obvious things so I can concentrate on the big stuff. I mean, do you understand just how out of hand the national debt has gotten? :) soapbox One of the things I've learned in 40 years of messing with computers is that it's never a good idea to make the human accommodate the machine. /soapbox Sweat not; I'll be fine. I know you guys are covered up with work, and I appreciate what you're doing. The snippet you sent is much the same as what I was looking for and couldn't find. Thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
2.13.34-1 freezes when updating syntax (Mac 10.4)
Gets to the point of saying Applying conversion: and just stops -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science ji...@cs.cofc.edu| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
This works, but I don't understand why
The d flat has both an accent and a staccato mark over it. Lilypond wants to put he accent on top of the staccato. I wanted the staccato on top of the accent. Here are four tries. Two of them work; two of them don't. (no surprise there) Two seem to be according to the manual page 96; two don't. That's a surprise. \once \override Script #'script-priority = #500%%works but shouldn't df4--. \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-500%%doesn't work but should df4--. \once \override Script #'script-priority = #500%%works and should df4-.- \once \override Script #'script-priority = #-500%%doesn't work and shouldn't df4-.- Here are my assumptions; some of them must be wrong: I want the staccato to have low priority so it will be outside the accent. - and -. are both Scripts, so I shouldn't mess with TextScript here. 500 is low priority; -500 is high priority. Because of the once, the priority change will apply to the first script it comes to, i.e. the accent in the first two examples and the staccato in the second two. The second script will retain its normal priority (which I don't know the value of, but which I think has an absolute value less than 500). My reading of the manual says that, in the order of the examples, the accent will be low (500), high (-500), high (because the staccato is low at 500), low (because the staccato is high at -500). The results I'm getting tell me that the override is always applied to the staccato, no matter whether it comes before or after the accent, i.e. the accent is high, low, high, low. Can someone clarify this for me? thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED]| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 60, Issue 46
the instrument name oboe does not print
\version 2.11.27
\include LoHow.ly
\context Staff { \set Staff.instrument = oboe \clef treble \alto}
If you look at the current docs, you'll see that the relevant
properties are now called instrumentName (for the name on the first
system) and shortInstrumentName (for the name on subsequent systems).
For more info, see:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/
Instrument-names#Instrument-names
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Sure does. Fixed me right up.
I can't help thinking that an error message would have been in order
here. As I interpret what happened here, I can say '\set
Staff.anyOldThing = whatever', and Lilypond won't complain. Is that
right?
thanks
--
-
Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED]| The College of Charleston
(843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424
http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy
If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be
profectionist.
Any form of incompitence is an athema to me.
Metathesis??? Don't ax me.
Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse.
I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be.
It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I
could care less.
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 60, Issue 42
This still works just fine except that the instrument name oboe
does not print at the beginning of the first line. That part was
working just fine a year ago. Can anybody tell me what happened? I've
tried 2.11.27 and 2.10.33, and it doesn't work with either of them.
Ii can't remember what version I was using a year or two ago when it
all worked just fine. Maybe 2.7.something?
BTW the notes of \alto are defined in LoHow.ly and they print out
just as before.
thanks
\version 2.11.27
\include LoHow.ly
\context Staff { \set Staff.instrument = oboe \clef treble \alto}
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a modest proposal for input syntax
My biggest problem in typing input is getting notes in the correct octave. Relative mode doesn't help me that much because I have to stop and think which direction is within a fourth of the previous note. The thing that's unambiguous is direction. If I'm on the b in the middle of the staff, the f at the top of the staff is up, and the f at the bottom is down, and I don't have to think to know this. As things are now, I have to type f to go down and f' to go up (I think). My suggestion is that I should type fu for up and fd for down, or fuu or fdd to go up or down another octave. It's simple, it's easy, and it's automatic. Thanks for a great program -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor Emeritus of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED]| The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. Any form of incompitence is an athema to me. Metathesis??? Don't ax me. Just between you and I, the grammar used by Americans are getting worse. I can only help but wonder what the cause of this might be. It just ceases to amaze me how it could be the case, but mostly I could care less. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 42, Issue 80
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:46:56 -0400
From: James Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: subdivided beams partially successful
I'm working on a piece that has a long run of triplet 16th notes. In
the original they are printed in groups of six which are subdivided
into subgroups of three. I.e. the top beam covers six stems, and
there are two bottom beams, one for the first three notes and one for
the second three notes. In trying to duplicate that with version
2.7.37 of LilyPond I did this
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\times 2/3 { music ...}
What I got was eight separate groups of three, which is exactly what
I would expect (and got) from taking out the subdivideBeams and
leaving the rest.
Interestingly, if I change the make-moment to 1 4, I get what I
expect both times: subdivideBeams gives me groups of 12 in two
subgroups of six, and without that I get plain groups of 12.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:59:58 -0400
From: Kieren Richard MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: subdivided beams partially successful
The easy way is to explicitly include a connected beam around the
duration of a quarter note each time, q.v., the second set of six
16th notes in
%% CODE SNIPPET BEGINS
\version 2.9
\relative c''
{
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\times 4/6 { c16 c c c c c } \times 4/6 { c16[ c c c c c] }
}
%% CODE SNIPPET ENDS
There's probably a (better) way to do it using Lilypond's auto-beam-
settings, but I don't know enough about it to give you that answer.
I guess my real question is in the last two paragraphs of my post
(Message 8). What's bothering me is the inconsistent behavior that I
think I see from Lilypond. If I do make-moment 1 4, everything is
just as I expect from reading the manual: \set subdivideBeams = ##t
has the effect of giving me groups of 12 subdivided into two
subgroups of 6; without is I get unsubdivided groups of 12. If I do
make-moment 1 8, then \set subdivideBeams = ##t has no effect at all
on the output. I get plain groups of three with or without it; no
subdivision.
That was with version 2.7.37. I just updated to 2.9.6 and it got even
stranger. I'm going to have to mess with that another day.
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pageBreak fails
I couldn't get \pageBreak to work consistently in 2.7.27 I was doing something like this example from the web site: title = Konzert Nr. 3 Es dur subtitle = für Horn und Orchester composer = Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791) I had three movements, which I put into separate include files. I wanted a page break between movement one and movement two. I tried putting \pageBreak at the end of the music in the first include file. It was ignored there. I tried putting it in the book file and got a syntax error. I obviously don't know enough about this. -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
subdivided beams partially successful
I'm working on a piece that has a long run of triplet 16th notes. In
the original they are printed in groups of six which are subdivided
into subgroups of three. I.e. the top beam covers six stems, and
there are two bottom beams, one for the first three notes and one for
the second three notes. In trying to duplicate that with version
2.7.37 of LilyPond I did this
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
\times 2/3 { music ...}
What I got was eight separate groups of three, which is exactly what
I would expect (and got) from taking out the subdivideBeams and
leaving the rest.
Interestingly, if I change the make-moment to 1 4, I get what I
expect both times: subdivideBeams gives me groups of 12 in two
subgroups of six, and without that I get plain groups of 12.
I obviously don't know enough about this.
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cues?
My original contains cues: small notes (played by someone else) near the end of an extended rest that are there to help the player come back in at the right time. I suppose that my problem is that I don't know what such notes are called in Europe. I couldn't find cue in the index. thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
index glitch?
While scrolling through the index I noticed an entry for The Feta Font alphabetized by The in the T section. There is no corresponding entry alphabetized by Feta in the F section. This seems wrong on both counts. -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 39, Issue 32
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: combining files
What didn't work?
First of all, you can skip the \book command, which is implicitly
added around any LilyPond input file if you don't write it yourself.
Also, within each \score{...}, the music should come before the
\header, \layout and \midi, at least in most versions of LilyPond
(I think it was unintentionally permitted to have the music after
the other fields in some versions (2.6?) but then you'll get into
trouble when you upgrade).
I was glad to see this come along when it did. I had the same problem
yesterday.
The snippet in section 10.1.12 of the manual is done exactly as you
say; however, I find putting anything in front of the header
counterintuitive. Perhaps it would be good to add a note saying that
it is picky about having the music come first.
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small things in jEdit plugin
I'm reporting this here because I don't know where else to report it. The jEdit plugin gives you an autocompletion list when you type a \. Some things appear to be missing from the list of choices. I've not made an exhaustive search, but came across the following: \ \f \!. What happens is that, if you type \f it settles on \fattext as the default you get by hitting the space bar, presumably because fattext is the first thing in lexicographic order that begins with an f. Similar things happen with the others. If I type \p, it picks \p as the default, which is what I'd expect. It seems that \p is on its list and \f isn't. It took me a while to notice that the plugin does a syntax check when you save. This is *really* nice since it saves having to do a lilypond run and then hunt for the errors by line number. It missed the following error that I made: I had typed a(, instead of a,(. jEdit found no errors, but lilypond didn't like that. -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
crescendo ruins MIDI file
I have an example in which the insertion of a crescendo in the music causes the generated MIDI file to be bad. Removing the crescendo fixes the problem. Is this a known problem? I'm using version 2.7.17 on Windows. A second thing: \ and \f don't work the same way in jEdit as \p. It looks like \p is the one that is correct. thanks -- - Jimmy Wilkinson| Professor of Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The College of Charleston (843) 953-8160 | Charleston SC29424 http://www.cs.cofc.edu/~jimmy If there is one word to describe me, that word would have to be profectionist. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Double notes
Hi there. I've been using Lilypond for a while, but there's one thing I can't get to work. I have two voices on a stave. Call the voices soprano and alto (I'm writing sheet music for a four part choir). If the soprano and alto are both singing a minim (half-note) G (for example), then you correctly get one head, with one stem going up, and one stem tail going down. (Always assuming that you use \stemUp and \stemDown. However, when they both sing a semibreve (whole note) C, there are obviously no stems. In normal printed music, you have *two* C semibreves, touching, both on the C (ledger) line. How do I get this effect in Lilypond? Thanks in advance, James. -- James Wilkinson Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
