Re: problem with \partial repeated in second ending Requires change to manual
Ok I can make some sense of that but Heads up to Graham
in section 6.7.2 the 3rd example has exactly what I'm
trying to do and there is no mention of needing a
\partial at the end of the first set of repeats.
Jay
Carrick Patterson wrote:
You have to do a \partial on the last measure of the first ending.
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*Subject: *problem with \partial repeated in second ending
\version 2.8.0
\header {
title = Sax 18 (Jig)
subtitle = An Galloglach
subsubtitle = The Gallowglass
copyright = For Study Purposes only
}
melody = \relative c''
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 6/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
#(set-global-staff-size 35)
\partial 8
b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
a b
\acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
e'4 d8 c b a g a b
\acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar :|
\repeat volta 2
{\partial 8
a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
d b g g4 e'8}
\alternative {
{\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
\times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
{fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
{b c d} c [a a] a4}
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=120 }
}
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Re: Whole-time rest and 3/4 time in 2.8.1
Tomas - seems like 2.8 is much pickier than in the past
and so if you have a time signature of 3/4 all the
'whole measure' rests have to be dotted half rests
instead of whole (note) type rests.
Jay
Tomas Valusek wrote:
Hello,
I stumbled on another weird thing with 2.8.1 on Windows. After
processing following code, I get two extra beats:
%Begin code
\version 2.8.1
\relative c''' {
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 3/4
R1 R1
r4 r g
}
%End code
Am I doing something wrong?
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problem with \partial repeated in second ending
Hello from the file below notice that for some reason a
partial 8 is used to begin the second ending I can't see
any reason why this should happen.
I looked at section 8.4.2 to see if I needed to correct
it using some kind of timing but that didn't make any sense.
So what's going on here?
Thanks
Jay
\version 2.8.0
\header {
title = Sax 18 (Jig)
subtitle = An Galloglach
subsubtitle = The Gallowglass
copyright = For Study Purposes only
}
melody = \relative c''
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 6/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
#(set-global-staff-size 35)
\partial 8
b8 c4 a8 e' b d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g d b g g
a b
\acciaccatura d c b a e' b d \times 3/4 {c-. (c-. a a)}
e'4 d8 c b a g a b
\acciaccatura d c a a a4 \bar :|
\repeat volta 2
{\partial 8
a'8 a4.\fermata e8 g d c a a a4 b8 c4.\fermata e8 fis g
d b g g4 e'8}
\alternative {
{\times 3/4 {a8-.( a-. a-. a-.)} e g d c a a a e' d
\times 3/4 {c-. (c-. b a)}
g a b \acciaccatura d c a a a4} {a'8[ e g] \times 3/4
{fis-.[ fis-. d b]}
e8 [c a] b [g e] a [b c] \acciaccatura d e \times 2/3
{b c d} c [a a] a4}
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=120 }
}
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What to put where for unicode using jedit?
Nicolas was very clear if one is using emacs but what about jedit it seems odd that if one cancels out a line with % that it would affect how the text coding worked. So is it the same? Also I can't find the correct numbers that have been referred to in past questions for the rest of utf-8 whatever. Thanks. Jay Nicolas Sceaux wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pedro Kröger) writes: You just to have to save the file as unicode. if you are using emacs it is as easy as putting this line: % -*- coding: utf-8 -*- on the top of the file. or hitting: C-x RET f utf-8 RET and then saving the file. To make utf-8 the default as soon as you add non-ASCII characters in a buffer, put in your .emacs: (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
is this a bug 2.8.0 with \turn ?
In the pdf from the code below measure 16 with the turn
- the turn seems to have durational value throwing the
rest of the piece off.
Perhaps there is something I do not understand about
current practise with turns but this seems wrong and I
can't find a way to fix it.
Thanks
Jay
\version 2.8.0
\header {
title = Prelude
composer = Frederic Chopin, op. 28 #4
copyright = for study purposes only
}
upper = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 2/2
\partial 4
b8.\p (b'16_\markup {espressivo}
b2. c4 b2. c4 b2. c4 b2. bes4 a2. b4 a2. b4 a2. b8. a16
a2.) gis4\ ~ gis\! a8\ (b\!\ d
c e, a\! fis2.) a4 (fis2.) \acciaccatura b8 (a4
g8 fis c-\ b dis fis \times 2/3 {d' c b\!)}
b2. (c4 b2. c4 b2. c4.
b8.\ ais16 ais4\turn g'\!\ fis8. e16\! e8\f dis c'\
dis, dis e g b,
d c e e, a fis4.\!_\markup {dim.} a8 fis2.)\p
\acciaccatura b8 (a4 fis2.~ fis8.\ e16 e2.\!
fis4_\markup {smorz. - - - - -}e2. fis4 e2) r2\fermata
e, fis b e2\pp
(dis fis b dis e g b e1\fermata)
\bar ||
}
lower = \relative c' {
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 2/2
}
\score {
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff = upper \upper
\context Staff = lower \lower
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
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Re: How to 'unset something
There are days that I feel stupider than this I'm sure but... First finding this file was nearly impossible the website docs are misleading. (Graham there is no documentation 'index' sidebar for example) Then when I did get to something describing property-init.ly it speaks to items that have multiple \'s and so how to 'revert' from a \set is definitely unclear (at least to me). So I looked at note head property to see if I could set a default in the middle of a piece and that produced an error message ignoring the command. So the bit I left out XP 2.6.4 Sorry in advance for being a dullard. Jay Erik Sandberg wrote: Citerar Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sure this is easy but I can't even begin to figure out a way to search it in the manual I used \setEasyHeads for many of my students pieces but I would like to stop that function mid-way through the piece or even just a few measures into it. What is the command for that? Thank you. See the file ly/property-init.ly for hints (the command is defined there). Erik -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How to 'unset something
I'm sure this is easy but I can't even begin to figure out a way to search it in the manual I used \setEasyHeads for many of my students pieces but I would like to stop that function mid-way through the piece or even just a few measures into it. What is the command for that? Thank you. Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I know there is an error but I don't understand the message to find the error.
Thank you that was the problem.
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I just tried your example and I didn't get any syntax error.
However, I had to replace :||: by :|: and :|| by :|: to
be able to process the file without any error.
/Mats
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
Below is the error message and the file it refers to.
I've changed everything I can think of to get it to compile but I
don't know why there is a problem either with line 36 or with the one
expression beginning with #.
Jay
# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `C:/Documents and
Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar'
Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc
files/Guitar/Bourree bach.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][26]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.4/ly/init.ly:36:1:
error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here
#
(if (pair? toplevel-scores) C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.4/ly/init.ly:36:5: error: syntax
error, unexpected '(', expecting '='
#(if
(pair? toplevel-scores)
\version 2.6.4
\header {
title = Bourree
composer = Bach
copyright = For study purposes only
}
#(set-global-staff-size 30)
upper = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2. e'8 d c4 d8 e b4 a8 g c4 g g c d g, f' e d8 c b c d4 e8 d c4 d8 e
b4 a8 g
c4 c, c f e a8 d, d4. c8 c2. \bar :||: c8 d e4 d8 c g'4 c b8 c b c
d4 g, e'
g, d' c8 b a g fis! g a4 d, g d a d, b' a8 g c4 d8 e fis,4 g8 a a4. g8
g2. e'8 d
c4 d8 e b4 a8 g c4 g g c d g, f' e d8 c b c d4 e8 d c4 d8 e b4 a8 g
c4 c, c f e a8 d, d4. c8 c2. \bar :||
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2. c'8 d e4 d8 c g'4. f8 e4 c8 d e4 d8 c b4. a8 b4 c g d' g c,8 d e4
d8 c g'4
g, a g8 f e4 f8 g a4 f g g, c g' c
}
\score {
\context PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = Piano
\context Staff = upper \upper
\context Staff = lower \lower
\layout {}
\midi {\tempo 4=60 }
}
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I know there is an error but I don't understand the message to find the error.
Below is the error message and the file it refers to.
I've changed everything I can think of to get it to
compile but I don't know why there is a problem either
with line 36 or with the one expression beginning with #.
Jay
# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `C:/Documents and
Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar'
Processing `C:/Documents and
Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc
files/Guitar/Bourree bach.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][16][24][26]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.4/ly/init.ly:36:1:
error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression
beginning here
#
(if (pair? toplevel-scores) C:/Program
Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.4/ly/init.ly:36:5:
error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting '='
#(if
(pair? toplevel-scores)
\version 2.6.4
\header {
title = Bourree
composer = Bach
copyright = For study purposes only
}
#(set-global-staff-size 30)
upper = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2. e'8 d c4 d8 e b4 a8 g c4 g g c d g, f' e d8 c b c d4
e8 d c4 d8 e b4 a8 g
c4 c, c f e a8 d, d4. c8 c2. \bar :||: c8 d e4 d8 c
g'4 c b8 c b c d4 g, e'
g, d' c8 b a g fis! g a4 d, g d a d, b' a8 g c4 d8 e
fis,4 g8 a a4. g8 g2. e'8 d
c4 d8 e b4 a8 g c4 g g c d g, f' e d8 c b c d4 e8 d c4
d8 e b4 a8 g
c4 c, c f e a8 d, d4. c8 c2. \bar :||
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2. c'8 d e4 d8 c g'4. f8 e4 c8 d e4 d8 c b4. a8 b4 c g
d' g c,8 d e4 d8 c g'4
g, a g8 f e4 f8 g a4 f g g, c g' c
}
\score {
\context PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = Piano
\context Staff = upper \upper
\context Staff = lower \lower
\layout {}
\midi {\tempo 4=60 }
}
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Re: new key signatures
I'll bet you can (and if not is it sponsor-able?) but in 2.6.x the first manual says This command (\key pitch type) set the context property Staff.keySignature. Non standard key signatures can be specified by setting the property directly. However a later version of the manual leaves out the last sentence and the first manual doesn't seem to have the information about how to set 'the property directly'. So I'm confused too. But I was working with some Bartok and the non-standard key signature would have been handy. Jay cordilow wrote: Is it possible to create 'new' key signatures? I mean, I desire to be able to make key signatures for my own scales. For instance, here is a favorite scale of mine: B C D# E F G# A B. In other words, it would have a sharp sign for the D and G alone (and this without showing accidentals for the sharps). Also, I want to be able to make key signatures with quarter tones in them. Is this possible? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/new-key-signatures-t1143296.html#a2997574 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Don't understand exactly where to put Completion lines
I apologize for this being sent only to you- a slip of
the keystrokes.
I was trying to keep the message short and to the point
since it seemed that each voice would need the command
but the question becomes
before notes in score or somehow in the layout
and I felt that the manual wasn't clear enough for me
to try it.
So it would seem that both are possible but perhaps more
reliably in each voice just before the notes.
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
As always, please keep the discussion on the mailing list.
I don't understand why you were so secret about how you
used your variable.
For example, you maybe have something as simple as
\score{
\sopranoA
}
or some more complicated construct such as
\new StaffGroup
\new Staff
\sopranoA
\sopranoB
\new Staff
\altoA
\altoB
...
The point is that it's somewhere among these lines that
you have to put the code you were asking about.
However, as I said in the email to the mailing list, the easiest
is to make a global redefinition of how Voice contexts work,
that then applies to all voices of the score. (Of course, if
you only want the completion on one voice of music, then
you need to do what you first suggested, and we need more
more details from your code if you want a detailed answer).
/Mats
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
The entire score needs the variable.
I would take the \CadenzaOn out if I had a way to complete all the
notes in every part (there are thirteen voices but I'm guessing that
just as you only put barlines and \CadenzaOn in the first voice you
would include the Completion code once too. I just don't quite
understand where it goes.
The original score is idiosyncratically barred without any time
signatures and sometimes the base note is an 8th and others it's a
quarter note i.e. a mess and I thought the Completion code would be a
way to regularize the piece now that all the notes/values are entered.
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Still, you only show how you define a variable called SopranoA, but
you don't show the actual \score{...} block of you file, i.e. the
lines that use the variable, i.e. the lines that contain \SopranoA.
/Mats
Quoting Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I snipped the part right under the 'header' but here's from the top
the beginning of the file
\version 2.6.3
\header {
title = Thunder/Perfect Mind
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = Adapted by the composer from various
translations/Texts found Nag Hamadi
copyright = CC lic.#2.5 some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 1998
}
#(set-global-staff-size 19)
Key = { \key c \major }
SopranoA = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Soprano 1
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef treble
\cadenzaOn
%notes begin here
Hope this is enough of an example.
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Since you didn't include the part of your file where you actually
use the SopranoA variable, it's impossible to accurately answer
your question.
/Mats
Quoting Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would like to use the autocompletion in my score however when I
looked at the manual I got confused as to where exactly to put
this [copied from manual];
\new Voice \with {
\remove Note_heads_engraver
\consists Completion_heads_engraver
} {
c2. c8 d4 e f g a b c8 c2 b4 a g16 f4 e d c8. c2
}
~~
in my score [example]
Key = { \key c \major }
SopranoA = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Soprano 1
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef treble
\cadenzaOn
I'm sure it's simple but like I said I got confused
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Re: Don't understand exactly where to put Completion lines
I snipped the part right under the 'header' but here's
from the top the beginning of the file
\version 2.6.3
\header {
title = Thunder/Perfect Mind
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = Adapted by the composer from various
translations/Texts found Nag Hamadi
copyright = CC lic.#2.5 some rights reserved Jay
Hamilton 1998
}
#(set-global-staff-size 19)
Key = { \key c \major }
SopranoA = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Soprano 1
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef treble
\cadenzaOn
%notes begin here
Hope this is enough of an example.
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Since you didn't include the part of your file where you actually use
the SopranoA variable, it's impossible to accurately answer your question.
/Mats
Quoting Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would like to use the autocompletion in my score however when I
looked at the manual I got confused as to where exactly to put this
[copied from manual];
\new Voice \with {
\remove Note_heads_engraver
\consists Completion_heads_engraver
} {
c2. c8 d4 e f g a b c8 c2 b4 a g16 f4 e d c8. c2
}
~~
in my score [example]
Key = { \key c \major }
SopranoA = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Soprano 1
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef treble
\cadenzaOn
I'm sure it's simple but like I said I got confused
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Don't understand exactly where to put Completion lines
I would like to use the autocompletion in my score
however when I looked at the manual I got confused as to
where exactly to put this [copied from manual];
\new Voice \with {
\remove Note_heads_engraver
\consists Completion_heads_engraver
} {
c2. c8 d4 e f g a b c8 c2 b4 a g16 f4 e d c8. c2
}
~~
in my score [example]
Key = { \key c \major }
SopranoA = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Soprano 1
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef treble
\cadenzaOn
I'm sure it's simple but like I said I got confused
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Re: MIDI Input/Invoke
James- I'm torn on this one but my experience may help as an example. I just finished the input of a triple choir plus countertenor piece (handwritten score was 90 pages 13 staves) . It took me most of January to do it in my spare time and to correct 'most' of my errors in typing. I then took the midi file of that and imported it into another notation program which publishes my material on a website. First all the accidentals were wrong. Triplets were interpreted in various incorrect ways, all the lyrics had to be imported and then corrected. Slurs were not imported at all etc Some of this may be the second notation program, most of it is what midi is capable of (I think). So- did I save some time doing it this way instead of starting over? Maybe a week. But it was frustrating. The best thing about it was that I found a bunch of input errors and can go back to the lily file and correct those, making both products better. Hope this adds something. Jay Graham Percival wrote: On 2-Feb-06, at 9:07 AM, James McFadyen (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: The Lilypond manual isn't user-friendly enough in this respect, it tells you what to do but doesn't give you a working example. It also says to invoke it from the command line. Does this mean I click Start - Run and then type in cmd to bring up the command prompt and then invoke from there, if so I've tried it with no luck... Yes, the command line (in windows) is start-run-cmd. Invoke it from there. If you get an error message, search the mailing list for that error (in case the question has been answered before), otherwise post it here. 1) How do I 'invoke' MIDI (ie where EXACTLY does the code get written in order to start the invoke process) Not in the code. You run midi2ly input.midi from the command line. I need to know everything there is to turn a MIDI file into a Lilypond file. I have been using Sibelius, but have recently saw the light and started using Lilypond (what a fab program) Just need a way to get my Sibelius scores into Lilypond format and the only way to do that at present is to export the Sibelius file as a MIDI file and somehow change the MIDI file into Lilypond by so-called 'invoking'. You will lose a lot of formatting data by exporting to midi; it might be faster simply to start again from scratch. Many lilypond users have reported that it was easier in the long run to do this. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Question about error message
Hello-
When I leave out the end bracket to a triplet figure in
line 18,23/24 (in jedit) [see example below] the error
message is that I have something wrong with
score\
\new Staff \ melody
when in fact the problem is way before that - a missing
bracket.
This doesn't make sense to me, can someone explain it?
Thanks Jay
This example is correct if you remove the second bracket
from the first triplet you get the error I describe
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\version 2.6.4
\header {
title = An Israeli Mode
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = clean note picking
copyright = CC some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2006
}
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
melody = \relative c' {
\clef bass
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
d,4 es!8 fis!4 g8 a bes! c4 d2 r4 \break
d,2 es2 fis8 g4 a8 g4 d d4. es fis8 g8 ~ g a8 bes! d c4
a fis8 g bes8 a4 fis8 d4\break
c8 d es fis g a bes c a fis bes es, c d4.\break
\times 2/3 {d'16 [d d]}\times 2/3 { es [es es]} \times
2/3 {bes [bes bes]}
\times 2/3 {a [a a]} \times 2/3 {c [c bes]} \times 2/3
{a [fis es]} a8 g ~ g4
\times 2/3 {g8 a bes} d,4 \times 2/3 {g8 a bes} e4 d8
c4. \times 2/3 {g8 fis a}
d,4 bes'8 g4. r4
\bar ||
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout {}
\midi {\tempo 4=60}
}
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trouble with easyHeads
Hello- I thought I'd set a few piano exercises for my beginning students in \setEasyHeads. However when I put the line after the header just before the 'notes' I got and error message that it was an unknown 'Identifier' and wouldn't compile and when I put it in the score/ the piece compiled but without the letters in the noteheads. 2.6.4 winxp So where does this belong? or should I submit both examples? Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Suddenly lyrics aren't with the right notes
Below is excerpt from a triple choir piece. I took it out trying to
find what I've done wrong to have the lyricmode skip some notes but I
don't see my error.
winxp
the word 'meek' is attached properly but then the next notes are without
words so strong and dis- graced are attached late.
I'm not getting error notes when this is compiled it just doesn't put
them where I expect.
The rest of the score works fine.
Jay
\version 2.6.0
\header {
title = TenorB
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = Thunder/Perfectmind
copyright = CC some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2006
}
Key = { \key c \major }
TenorB = \relative c' {
\set Staff.instrument = #Tenor 2
\set Staff.midiInstrument = Accordian
\clef G_8
\cadenzaOn
r1 \bar | r1 \bar |
%page 2
r1 \bar | r1 r4\bar |
%page 3
r4. es!4 r8 \bar | es!4. r4\bar |
%page 4
r4. es!4. \bar | r2 r8 g,4 r8 \bar | r2 d'8 f, a4\bar |
%page 5
r4 d,8 f a4 r \bar | r4 d, f r r8 \bar |
%page 6
a8 a \times 2/3 {d,4 a' d ~} d4 ~ \bar | d8 r4 r1 \bar |
%page 7
r8 c ~ c2. ~ \bar | c2. \bar | r2 r8
%8
g' \bar | g g4 r8 r2 \bar | r4. g4 r2.\bar |
%8a
r1 \bar | r8 es!8 ~ es!2. \bar | r4
%9
r1 r8 \bar | g,8 ~ g2 ~ \bar | g r \bar |
%9a
r2 r8 \bar | r4 f'2. ~ f8 ~ \bar | f4. r8 c4 ~ c4. \bar |
%10a
r2. \bar | r \bar | r \bar | r1 \bar |
%11
r1 r8 \bar | r1 \bar |
%12
r2. \bar | r1 r4 \bar |
%13
r2. r8 g ~ \bar | g1 ~ g4 \bar |
%14
r2. \bar | r2 f'4 ~ \bar | f1 ~ f8 ~ \bar | f
%15
r8 c4. r8 \bar | r2 r8 \bar |
%16
r1 \bar | r2 r8 \bar | r2. \bar |
%17
r2. r8 \bar | r2. \bar | r1 r4.
%18
cis!8 ~ \bar | cis~ r8 r2. \bar | r2. \bar |
%19
r2 e4 r \bar | r2. \bar |
%20
r2 \bar | d8 d4 r8 r2 \bar | r1 \bar |
%21
r2. \bar | r2 r8 \bar | r8 b8.^\markup {intone} ~
%22
b2 ~ \bar | b4. r8 r2. \bar | r2. b4 \bar |
%23
r2. \bar | r2. \bar | r2. \bar |
%24
r1 \bar | r2. \bar | r2. \bar |
%25
r1 \bar | r2. \bar | r1 r4 \bar |
%26
r1 \bar | r2. \bar |
%27
r1 \bar | r2. \bar |
%28
r1 \bar | r2. \bar | r1 r4 \bar |
%29
r4^\markup {spoken not intoned} r8_\markup {the one you have pursued}
\bar | r2 \bar | r r8 \bar |
%30
r4. \bar | r8 r4._\markup {you have gathered me} \bar | r2 r8 \bar
|
r2. \bar |
%31
}
\addlyrics { the the the the the vir- gin the mo- ther bar- ren man- y
are my sons
%page 6
the_mid-wife_and_she_who_does_not_bear the bride- groom me
%page 8a
he_is_my_off-spring the_i-dea_of-ten_re-mem-bered the_ut-ter-ance_of_my_name
of_my_name
%13
the_i-dea_of-ten_re-mem-bered the_ut-ter-ance_of_my_name of_my_name
%18
meek
%19
strong
%20
dis- graced
%21
strength_in_trem-bling
%22
wise
%29 spoken: the one you have pursued
%30 spoken: you have gathered me
%32 spoken: many are my fes!tivals
%33 spoken scorned
%34
you re- flect up- on me
%37
you who know me and do not de- spise it be- cause it is small and pal- try
%45
of the an- gels who have been sent at my word
%53
those who are not en- twined with my sub- stance are ig- nor- ant of me
those
en- twined in me know me
%58
far a- way draw near I am un- ion and dis!- so- lu- tion
%75
for your in-ter-i-or is your ex-ter-i-or and the one who fash-ions you
on the
out- side is the one who shapes the in- side of you
%85
have no one who will judge me which men embrace un- til theybe- come so-
ber
and go up rest- ing pla- ces
}
\score {
\new Staff \TenorB
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
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Re: Suddenly lyrics aren't with the right notes
Shouldn't there be some kind of heads up from the program when something doesn't make sense like this? It tells me all the time that I don't make sense about other bits and pieces why not this? Jay Erik Sandberg wrote: On Sunday 15 January 2006 13.34, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Below is excerpt from a triple choir piece. I took it out trying to find what I've done wrong to have the lyricmode skip some notes but I don't see my error. winxp the word 'meek' is attached properly but then the next notes are without words so strong and dis- graced are attached late. I'm not getting error notes when this is compiled it just doesn't put them where I expect. The rest of the score works fine. The problem is the tie between a note with a rest %18 cis!8 ~ \bar | cis~ r8 If you remove the second ~, it works fine. Lily's behaviour is rather odd, but a tie between note and rest makes little sense, so it can be considered undefined behaviour. -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: two questions compile (times maybe) and question on barline repeats
Graham- I didn't upgrade, and I did add a few lines of rests before it
stopped compiling. I get nothing , no error no command box nothing.
That's why I asked the question. I'll try to go back and delete the
added material until it will compile and start from there.
Below is the file the pdf just has the 4 lines of 2 measure each but
without repeat signs until the final measure.
I didn't/ don't use repeat as I thought that was mainly to get the midi
to sound right and I don't care about midi for this.
Please correct me if I misunderstand.
Jay
\version 2.6.0
\header {
title = Giuliani's 120 group 1
subtitle = Right hand studies
copyright = for study purposes only
}
melody = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\bar |: c c' e4^\markup {#1} e c' e g c e c, c' e
b d' f d d' f g d' f b, d' f \bar :| \break
\bar |: \times 2/3 {c8^\markup {#2} c' e} \times 2/3 {e, c' e}
\times 2/3 {g, c e}
\times 2/3 {c, c' e} \times 2/3 {b, d' f} \times 2/3 {d, d' f}
\times 2/3 {g, d' f} \times 2/3 {b,, d' f} \bar :| \break
\bar |: \times 2/3 {c8^\markup {#3} e' c} \times 2/3 {e, e' c}
\times 2/3 {g e' c}
\times 2/3 {c, e' c} \times 2/3 {b, f'' d} \times 2/3 {d, f' d}
\times 2/3 {g, f' d} \times 2/3 {b, f'' d} \bar :| \break
\bar |: \times 2/3 {c8^\markup {#4} e g} \times 2/3 {e g c} \times
2/3 {g c e}
\times 2/3 {c, c' e} \times 2/3 {b, d g} \times 2/3 {d g d'}
\times 2/3 {g, d' f} \times 2/3 {b,, d' f} \bar :|
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
Graham Percival wrote:
On 29-Dec-05, at 7:28 PM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
v.2.6.4
winxp
I have a 1200 line file (so far) and it was compiling in 2 minutes or
less and now it has begun not to compile at all. Is there something
I can look for that would explain this without submitting the entire
file?
If you've updated your version of lilypond, did you run convert-ly ?
If not, what did you change last? You must have made some change
between the last time you compiled it and when it stopped compiling.
Are there any error messages displayed? If there's any line numbers
mentioned, double-check the area around those lines -- sometimes the
actual error occurs a few lines away from the reported problem.
Secondly
I just entered a series of 2 measure exercises (guitar/Giuliani) with
\bar |: at the beginning and \bar :| at the end of each two bars
but the end repeat does not show.
Why not use \repeat ? Anyway, if it's just a one-line example that
doesn't display a bar line, please send the example to the list.
- Graham
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two questions compile (times maybe) and question on barline repeats
v.2.6.4 winxp I have a 1200 line file (so far) and it was compiling in 2 minutes or less and now it has begun not to compile at all. Is there something I can look for that would explain this without submitting the entire file? Secondly I just entered a series of 2 measure exercises (guitar/Giuliani) with \bar |: at the beginning and \bar :| at the end of each two bars but the end repeat does not show. I tried adding \break which did not change anything and I thought perhaps that I could use \bar :|: with a \break but no luck so is there a bug or a 'special' technique to get single 2 measure line with repeat signs Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A few questions
Don't know if this will help but I ran into this same problem and
discovered that if I changed the .midi to .mid everything played, don't
know why but it's consistent that I have to do this.
Jay
Jannik Jeppesen wrote:
Hi VSD thanx for your answer. The file you have created is perfect.
But it seems that I have some midi problems... It opens in media
player, but it does not play anything.
I am using version 2.6.4-5 on windows any Ideas?
Hi Josiah... I am sorry about my title of this question. I usually
give my questions good titles. dont know what happened this
time:-) Sorry.
%%
\header
{
title = Improvise
composer = Jannik Jeppesen
}
chordline = \chordmode {
\repeat volta 20 {
a1:m c g e:m
}
}
rythmline = \relative c''
{
\override NoteHead #'style = #'slash
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t % or not
\repeat volta 20 {
b4 b b b
b b b b
b b b b
b b b b
}
}
\score {
\context ChordNames {
\chordline
}
\context Staff {
\rythmline
}
\layout {}
}
\score {
\unfoldRepeats \chordline
\midi { \tempo 4 = 120 }
}
%% EOF
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Re: lily in agnula ? lily in live distro ?
Hardware auto worked fine but connecting it all together each and every time you boot up is a total pain. And it wasn't so much that the initial cost was so much but that between very slow and mostly inadequate support (the forums last I checked and that was a while ago- I basically gave up on it- were of not much use and none of the advise I got worked.) and then that the software was integrated but not with any of the hardware so just to start it took forever each time. Lastly they get you as badly as any other proprietary software for upgrades- and given that everything is somewhat older versions you need the upgrades as soon as they come out. I just felt it didn't work for writing music (composing in the older sense). Jay Darius Blasband wrote: I would not say it is expensive in absolute terms - it compares favourably with Cubase, for instance - but then again, compared with something that's free, I guess everything looks expensive. The hardware autodetection is fairly good. So is the support. I have two reservation about the product: - Claiming you can boot on a CD and save your data on a USB storage device does not work all that well: CD drives are just too slow and noisy for comfort ! I have not tried to install it on a hard disk, but I would expect it to work much better. - As far as I have been able to see, there is no facility to edit double-stave Piano scores, making it cumbersome as a Lilypond front-end, at least for me... It might be adequate for string quartets though... Darius. Cyprien Gay wrote: Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence a écrit : There is something called Studio to Go http://www.ferventsoftware.com British Expensive Lilypond is integrated with Rosegarden I found it to be a total pain and the version of Lily is 2.2 which isn't really adequate anymore. 2.6.1 now, it seems : http://www.ferventsoftware.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=18Itemid=59 Total pain in what sense ? Integration of Lilypond with Rosegarden is a pain ? Anyway, expensive indeed. And only one license per copy. Cyprien. Cyprien Gay wrote: Also, is there any live-cd with lilypond on it ? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lily in agnula ? lily in live distro ?
There is something called Studio to Go http://www.ferventsoftware.com British Expensive Lilypond is integrated with Rosegarden I found it to be a total pain and the version of Lily is 2.2 which isn't really adequate anymore. Jay Cyprien Gay wrote: Hello, I was wondering whether lilypond is part of agnula. (it seems not). Also, is there any live-cd with lilypond on it ? If not, would that not be a great thing to have, for the spreading lilypond ? Cyprien. -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
guile log error but I can't see what it's referring to
log:
# -*-compilation-*-
Changing working directory to `C:/Documents and
Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar/Oud bk 2 line 94-224'
Processing `C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc
files/Guitar/Oud bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 133.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8][10]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
C:/Program Files/LilyPond2-6/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.3/ly/init.ly:36:1:
error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here
#
(if (pair? toplevel-scores)
C:/Program Files/LilyPond2-6/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.3/ly/init.ly:36:5:
error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting '='
#(if
(pair? toplevel-scores)
~
file:
\version 2.6.0
\header {
title = Oud 133
subtitle = in different Gs
copyright = For study purposes only
}
melody = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key g \major
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\tempo 4=50
\time 2/4
\once \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #4.0
g4^\markup{ \italic Largo } \p g | g g \bar :||: b8\segno (ais b c) |
d8 (c b ais)| b8 (ais b c) | d2| d8 (e d c) | b8 (ais b4) | g8 a16 bes a
g g fis |
g2\coda \bar :|:
}
\score {
\new Staff \melody
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=50 }
}
I deleted some parts that I thought might be the problem to try to
narrow the search down but that didn't work.
The log file is talking about line 36:1 but there is no line 36 so then
I looked at all the #marks and again I don't see anything wrong.
So what's up this time?
Jay
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Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?
Mats [et al} thank you as for the tremolo in the 2.6 manual section 6.7.6 it gives examples with a half note and the stem has one slash perhaps I mistakenly thought that even if it was an eighth note to get one slash I merely needed to :8 But since that should really mean two 16ths I probably should have :16? Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: Regarding the tremolo, the number after the : should indicate the duration of each subdivision. I don't know the standard notation for guitar music, but on most other instruments you use 3 beams to indicate tremolo, i.e. b8:32 /Mats -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: what is wrong with this \markup /padding?
This sort of worked, whereas the other two suggestions did not work at all.
However what it did not do was raise the word 'Moderato' above the tempo
marking the word Pelleagato appears next to the tempo marking which
would be sufficient/acceptable except I still don't know what is going on.
My guess is that s1^ is doing something even though it's doing something
different in each case- which means that I don't know what/why.
I suspect that Han-Wen did answer thoroughly but I accidently deleted
that response.
I apologize.
Jay
Martial wrote:
\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }
test this :
{
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #2.0
s1^\markup{ \italic Moderato }
s1^\markup{ Pelleagato }
}
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what is wrong with this \markup /padding?
I think I've copied (retyped) it from the manual.
\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2.0
\markup{ \italic Moderato }
All I am attemptin is to get the word Moderato higher above the notes of
the staff.
the response I get is
C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar/Oud
bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:27:40: error: syntax error, unexpected '.'
\once \override TextScript #'padding = 2
.0
C:/Documents and Settings/Owner/Desktop/NoteWorthy/nwc files/Guitar/Oud
bk 2 line 94-224/Oud 129-132.ly:28:9: error: unknown escaped string:
`\italic'
\markup{
\italic Moderator }
So what am I doing wrong?
Thank you.
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doubling of time signature in 2.6.3 ?
Hello-
I've fiddled with this for an hour and copied it first directly from the
manual (typed it in) then took and copied some from something I made
work and then even edited that and I still have these double time
signatures-
So something is wrong with the manual or I'm really missing something
obvious.
Here's the ly file
\version 2.6.3
\header {
title = Doctor Parnassum
composer = Claude Debussy
copyright = for study purposes only
}
#(set-global-staff-size 19)
upper = \relative c' {
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
\key c \major
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
%notes here
r16 g c d e g, c e d f, c'd f a, b f' |
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
\key c \major
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
%notes go here
\acciaccatura c,8 c'1~|
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = #piano
\context Staff = upper \upper
\context Staff = lower \lower
\layout { }
\midi {\tempo 4=60 }
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Re: times number on beams crossing staves
At least for the first example you should have time not times- see if
that does it
Jay
Maxime Brugidou wrote:
Hello
i'm with the 2.6.3 version, i have 2 questions :
i wrote :
\context Staff= one {
\times 4/5 {\stemDown a'16[e' \change Staff=two \stemUp d'' c'']}
}
\context Staff= two {
c'1
}
it gave me the first pdf test1.pdf (should be me or my computer or my
code)
and
\new PianoStaff
\context Staff= one {
\times 4/5 {\stemDown a'16[e' \change Staff=two \stemUp d'' c'']}
}
\context Staff= two {
c'1
}
(more intersesting question i think) is it possible to move the number
? (the 5 is not at a very good place)
another one : in test2.pdf, the stave is cut. Is it because in my last
ly file i used the \romoveEmptyStaff command ??
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Re: adjust frequencies for midi output?
Jason- I somehow doubt that lilypond (which is a notation program) can do this but a recently deceased man Fred Nachbaur created a program to change the temperment of midi files you can look at it here http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/midiutil/ Jay Jason Addison wrote: Is it possible to reassign the frequencies associated with individual notes for midi output? If so, how? Thanks -Jason ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond
Hello- As a composer who tried Sibelius, and Finale, and about 5 other programs, (finally settling on Noteworthy Composer- cheaper and amazingly good for that). I've been using lilypond for about 3 months. At first I would handwrite everything out and then type in the input. Now I both sketch by hand and compose actually typing what I think I hear directly - sometimes using a keyboard often not. Once you get the hang of it, depending on whether you are used to composing away from a sound source or not, composing directly works pretty good as the pdf and midi outputs are very good checks to what one is doing. There is a convert midi2ly part of the program, I'm not qualified to direct you to it or how well it works, it probably works really well as the convert abc2ly works really well. Really look at the manual- it's too big and all but most of what one needs is in there somewhere. Jay Bohdan Krowicky wrote: Hi, I'm impressed by the printed results from your program - I remember 'Score', about a millennium ago which I ran on an XT and that was a script based application. When you were ready to print a score, you had to run the print run all night, and keep getting up to un-jam the printer. Still the results were great. These days I'm a composer and I use Sibelius 4 as a composition tool, and the thought of learning a new language is rather daunting. Can Lilypond accept a Midi file and convert it into its own format, and then to its beautiful printed output? Do composers use Lilypond as their primary work system? It seems to me that one needs to have a piece already written, on paper perhaps, and then input it to your program. Or am I off track here? Cheers Bohdan Krowicky Wodonga, Australia ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: soundfonts for midi output?
This won't be something controlled by lily but rather is a soundbank/font thing you have to do with the player. If you can't change the bank on either of your players (I think you can with the MS product but not sure) you'll need to get a midi player where you can set the sound bank to use the bank of soundfonts you want. Hope this helps a little. Jay Horace A. 'Kicker' Vallas wrote: this is maybe a really dumb question but I don't do much with midi I have also searched the docs and faqs and archives but see nothing about using other soundfonts --- so, even if the answer is no or can't at least this will get the question into the archives :-) - I have a lilypond (2.6.3) score for Classical guitar - I've downloaded several soundfonts that I would like to try for the midi generated by lilypond - I set Staff.midiInstrument to acoustic guitar (nylon) in the .ly file for I use winamp to play midi's but can use winmediaplayer or something else if required. How can I use different soundfonts for the midi generated by lily? -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi2ly troubles
Start menu to Run type cmd That gives you the command window from there you're on your own. Jay Rob Drew wrote: Hi there. Just wondering if you can give me a bit of advice on midi2ly. I have just installed lilypond for windows (not the cygwin version) and I'de like to try the midi2ly script/program. My little bit of research so far has led me to believe that I need to install Python for windows which I know nothing about. Now I'm stumped. Ive been typing commands and paths that mean nothing and go nowhere. I've seen the invoking midi2ly page and the references to : midi2ly [option]... midi-file but I don't know where to type this..in python somewhere?? I'd love to be able to try converting some of my finale files to lilypond. anyway, any help you can give would be appreciated. Rob Drew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: compiling times?
Mats- It was not until I actually could get an error log that I could
start to fix the file. However you have brought up a couple of things.
Last -first by changing the \score to new Staff from context I am now
able to get midi and pdf files to look at what it going on.
I am getting something odd in the pdf re; the piano parts don't have
staff lines and there is an extra clef sign above the piano brace.
So there is something I am missing about entering a piano setup--
So to the first comment about defining an instrument twice- could you
explain that? I copied the 'code' directly from the jazz combo section
of the manual, if that is giving us redundancy or misleading then how
does one fix that?
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
flute = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
flute = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Flute
\clef treble
\context Staff
\flute
}
Here, you provide two different definitions of \flute.
Even though LilyPond actually does what you want, I wouldn't
consider it a particularly good idea.
This is the part of your message I didn't understand.
Here is the Piano section as I typed it in
%piano parts
rh = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
lh = \relative c {
\Key
c1 c c
}
PianoRH = {
\clef treble
\global
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
}
PianoLH = {
\clef bass
\global
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
}
piano = {
\context PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = #Piano
\context Staff = upper \PianoRH
\context Staff = lower \PianoLH
}
but as I wrote above this produces no staff lines from the brace and an
extra treble clef above the piano part with no label.
So either something is extra here or mistyped but not an 'error'.
Thanks
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Re: compiling times?
Han-Wen and Fr. Gilbert and all.
Correcting the [ to { and sice to size now gives me an error log -whew!
but it doesn't like this bit.
And I look at the manual and have fiddled with the parts and can't seem
to get it right.
So is the problem before this even though the complaint is either about
or layout { ? or is there a part I don't have right?
Thanks.
Jay
\score {
\context Staff = flute
\context Staff = clarinet
\context Staff = violin
\context Staff = xylophone
\context Staff = piano \piano
\context Staff = trombone
\context Staff = cello
\layout {
\context {
\Score }
}
\midi {tempo 4 = 60 }
}
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compiling times?
I'm xp celeron 512ram
I am still trying to put together a more complicated score of 7
different instruments including piano.
I took and modified the example in Chapter 3 of the manual
I use jedit to work it out.
But, though I get a log file saying
parsing...
After 30 minutes nothing else is happening, no .ps or .pdf
I tried to look at the processes to see if I could figure out if
compiling was taking place but I couldn't recognize which/what might be
lily as nothing seemed to fit.
I'm sure there's a way to find 'mistakes' if that's why there's no
output but so far I've not been led by the nose to it.
So please some directions.
\version 2.6.3
\header {
title = Jat 10
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = suite for alternating instruments
copyright = CC some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2005
}
#(set-global-staff-sice 20)
global = {
\time 4/4
}
Key = { \key c \major }
flute = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
flute = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Flute
\clef treble
\context Staff
\flute
}
clarinet = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
clarinet = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Clarinet
\clef treble
\context Staff
\clarinet
}
violin = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
violin = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Flute
\clef treble
\context Staff
\violin
}
xylophone = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
xylophone = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Xylophone
\clef treble
\context Staff
\xylophone
}
%piano parts
rh = \relative c' {
\Key
c1 c c
}
lh = \relative c {
\Key
c1 c c
}
PianoRH = {
\clef treble
\global
\set Staff.midiInstrument - acoustic grand
}
PianoLH = {
\clef bass
\global
\set Staff.midiInstrument = acoustic grand
}
piano = {
\context PianoStaff
\set PianoStaff.instrument = #Piano
\context Staff = upper \PianoRH
\context Staff = lower \PianoLH
}
trombone = \relative c {
\Key
c1 c c
}
Trombone = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Trombone
\clef treble
\context Staff
\trombone
}
cello = \relative c {
\Key
c1 c c
}
cello = [
\global
\set Staff.instrument = #Cello
\clef treble
\context Staff
\cello
}
\score {
\context Staff = flute
\context Staff = clarinet
\context Staff = violin
\context Staff = xylophone
\context Staff = piano \piano
\context Staff = trombone
\context Staff = cello
\layout {
\context {
\Score }
}
\midi {tempo 4 = 60 }
}
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Re: compiling times?
Oof that was not a good but a stupid typo mistake. However it did not solve the compiling problem I still only get a log file. Sigh. Jay Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: flute = [ clarinet = [ violin = [ xylophone = [ Trombone = [ cello = [ These should be curly brackets -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange Midi Output
I opened your midi file and there were 4 pages of rest measures then the
attached gif.
Without knowing more it doesn't seem that strange except for the number
of rests.
On the other hand I have no idea what your input was.
Jay
Daniel Tonda Castillo wrote:
Hello:
I seem to be getting strange midi output from lilypond.
After including another \score section, for the purpose of getting midi
output:
...
\score {
\Notes
\midi {
\tempo 4 = 108
}
}
After all the output from lilypond, when I play the generated midi file,
all I get is a cluster of notes.
I include my sample so it can be tested Espanoletas-00.ly, and the midi
it generates so you can listen to the cluster.
Daniel Tonda C.
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Re: can't quite find grandstaff in chamber piece instructions
Ah, that's a whole different issue as I'm running this at the moment under xp even thought I was introduced to lilypond using linux. So /maybe/ I can find those files /if/ MS lets me. Probably easier to go to website download. Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: All the examples in the Tips and Tricks and Regression Test documents should be available in your installation. Perhaps in /usr/share/doc/lilypond/include/test/ and /usr/share/doc/lilypond/include/regression respectively. At least, they can be found below lilypond-1.x.xx/input/ if you download and unpack the source code. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: I hadn't - I'm still trying to learn where to look for things and since I don't have broadband I am not easily able to jump back and forth when i run into a problem. I downloaded the pdf of manual next step the tips and tricks. Thanks Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: Sorry, I don't understand your question. Could you please clarify what you want to obtain. I hope you have browsed through the Tips and Tricks and Regression Test documents. Especially, the example called coriolan-margin.ly in Tips and Tricks might possibly be useful. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Hello- please direct me in the manual to the place that explains how to bury the grandstaff in a chamber ensemble. The parts I have found so far only speak to lyrics not in the middle of an orchestral piece. Thanks. Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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I hadn't - I'm still trying to learn where to look for things and since I don't have broadband I am not easily able to jump back and forth when i run into a problem. I downloaded the pdf of manual next step the tips and tricks. Thanks Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: Sorry, I don't understand your question. Could you please clarify what you want to obtain. I hope you have browsed through the Tips and Tricks and Regression Test documents. Especially, the example called coriolan-margin.ly in Tips and Tricks might possibly be useful. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Hello- please direct me in the manual to the place that explains how to bury the grandstaff in a chamber ensemble. The parts I have found so far only speak to lyrics not in the middle of an orchestral piece. Thanks. Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: triplet problem in multi-staff score 2.7 and 2.6 versions
fis8. c'8 a a16 a a8 | fis16 e8. b'8 a g16 b a8 |
fis8.e16 a8 a g16 b d8 |
%22
e4 fis8 e e16 d c8 | d4 e8 d d16 c b8 | c4. r| a4 fis'8 e d16 c b8 | a4
fis'8 g16
fis e d e8| a,4 g'8 g16 fis g a e8| fis16 e fis g d8 e16 d e fis c8| d8
a4 ~ a4.|
r2.| a8 fis'4 e16 d e g fis8| e16 d e fis b,8 ~ b16 b a4| a8 g4 \times
2/3 {a8 [b c]} d8|
%34
e4. r| g4 e8 a4.| fis4 c32 b16. r8 \times 2/3{a c e} | fis d b e a, c|
g16 a8. r8 a4. | e'8 a,4 a8 a16 g a8|
e'8 b4 a8 a16 b c8 | d a4 d8 g,4| a8 b16 c d8 a g16 b a8| a8 g16 b a8
\times 2/3 { a8 [g b]} a8|
a16 ( [g b] a [g b]) a ( [g b] c) [d8] | e8 [b16 b b b] a8 [b16 b c b] |
e fis b, b b b a b c d e g|
%46
e16 g a8 \times 2/3 { d,16 d d } \times 2/3 {c16 b a}\times 2/3 {c16 b a
} \times 2/3 {g16 fis fis}|
fis8 fis4 fis8 fis16 fis fis8| fis8 e4 e8 e16 e e8| e16 d a'4 a8 a16 g
a8 ~ a8 e4 a8 g16 b a8|
g8 fis4 e8 d16 e e8| b'8 b4 b8 a16 b a8| g8 g4 g8 fis16 g a b | g8 g4 g8
fis16 g fis8|
e2. | a2.| c8 c4 c8 b16 c b a | c8 c4 c8 b16 a g a | b8 b4 a16 g fis e d
a' | c4 d e |
a,2. \bar ||
}
four = \relative c
{
\clef bass
\key a \minor
\time 6/8
b4 r8 a4 r8 | b4 r8 a4 r8 | b4 r8 c4 r8| b r4 c8 r4 | fis4 r8 e4 r8| e4
r8 b4 r8|
c4 r8 g4 r8 | d4 r8 g4 r8| b16 c d c g b d8 r4 | c4 r8 d4 r8 | c16 d e d
b g b4.|
%12
g'4 g8 g g16 g g8| b,4 b8 b b16 b b8| b16 a g a b e d8 c d ~ | d4 r2 |r2.|
%17
fis4 fis8 fis g16 a g8 | g a16 b c8 g a16 b d8| e e16 fis e d c8 r4 | c8
c16 d b c a8 r4|
g16 fis e fis d e c d e fis32 a c8| r2.| r2.|c,2.|
%25
e,16 e- e e- e e- e e- e e e8| e' e16 d c d e fis g d ~ d c| b a b c
d e c8 g b|
e,16 e- e e- e e- e e- e e e8|
%29
b'4 b8 b b16 b b8| a16 b c b a d e d g fis e d| e16 c e c d c b c d a d a|
b16 c d8 r a16 b c8 r | g16 fis e8 r d' a4 |
}
five = \relative c'
{
\clef bass
\key a \minor
\time 6/8
r4 \times 2/3 { b,16 b b} r4 \times 2/3 {b16 b b}| r4 \times 2/3
{b16 b b }
r4 \times 2/3 {b16 b b }
}
\score {
\new Staff \one
\new Staff \two
\new Staff \three
\new Staff \four
\new Staff \five
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=112 }
}
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a g a b e d8 c d ~ | d4 r2 |r2.|
%17
fis4 fis8 fis g16 a g8 | g a16 b c8 g a16 b d8| e e16 fis e d c8 r4 | c8
c16 d b c a8 r4|
g16 fis e fis d e c d e fis32 a c8| r2.| r2.|c,2.|
%25
e,16 e- e e- e e- e e- e e e8| e' e16 d c d e fis g d ~ d c| b a b c
d e c8 g b|
e,16 e- e e- e e- e e- e e e8|
%29
b'4 b8 b b16 b b8| a16 b c b a d e d g fis e d| e16 c e c d c b c d a d a|
b16 c d8 r a16 b c8 r | g16 fis e8 r d' a4 |
}
five = \relative c'
{
\clef bass
\key a \minor
\time 6/8
r4 \times 2/3 { b,16 b b} r4 \times 2/3 {b16 b b}| r4 \times 2/3
{b16 b b }
r4 \times 2/3 {b16 b b }
}
\score {
\new Staff \one
\new Staff \two
\new Staff \three
\new Staff \four
\new Staff \five
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 8=112 }
}
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Re: triplet problem in multi-staff score 2.7 and 2.6 versions
Graham (all) I edited it down to 6 measures and the 'problem' didn't appear and it doesn't happen with any other triplets in the piece (and there are many). So- next step? Jay Graham Percival wrote: On 21-Aug-05, at 10:57 AM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: The problem is pdf output at measure 36 third staff. The triplet or something has made the staff spacing huge. Since it's the only place that this is happening and there is nothing that I can see in the file that makes it this way. I'm stumped. Please construct a small example that demonstrates this -- probably just bars 35, 36, and 37, but you won't know until you try it. Cheers, - Graham -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
midi bug for latest version when solved? and..
I think I read that it's known that in version 2.7.4 midi is not produced or that the file is empty. However- I haven't figured out where to go to read that from the lily site, and I was wondering when that will be fixed? Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Centred Piano Dynamics
Try typing the code in often the copy paste is not satisfactory but typing the material in often works. Jay Will Oram wrote: Does the template for centred dynamics in a piano staff found in the 2.6 manual actually work? I've copied-and-pasted directly into a test ly file and gotten no success when building from the lily binary (OSX Panther). Indeed, I've tried the 2.6 and 2.7.6 templates within their respective lily binary versions, and both puke. 2.6 sez: Processing `/Users/spamguy/pianotest.ly' Parsing... /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ ly/init.ly:27:0: error: syntax error, unexpected SCM_T #(if (and (ly:get-option 'old-relative) /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ ly/init.ly:38:69: error: syntax error, unexpected $end (apply ly:make-book $defaultpaper $globalheader toplevel-scores))) error: failed files: /Users/spamguy/pianotest.ly --- 2.7.6 sez the same thing. Looking a few files in Mutopia based on this template, I'm pushed to think that something's not right on my end. Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: using \break doesn't work or at least not as I expect
Mats-
Thank you. The problem then, in this case, was that I never got a beam
or any other mistake message/warning. In fact, when I couldn't solve
the problem I gave up with the different time signatures in the problem
(meaning hard to read) area and switched them both to 5/4. I still
never got printing warnings.
And I did do barline checks but as you discovered there is no
information that is useful that can be gleaned from them in this kind of
score.
I just changed the bracket to the correct one *and* changed most of the
time signatures back *and* put breaks where they needed to be (using the
pdf output- which I believe is the only way to check for barline
connections in this kind of score). With your help it's beautiful,
playable, readable and closer to what I intended.
So is this a bug? Since I never received any printout/beam warnings of
any kind?
Jay
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
My best hints for finding these kinds of errors is to
try to reduce the complex score into something simpler
that shows the same problem. In your case, I quickly
found out that the problem remained if I only kept \two
in the score (and even without the redefined \context
definitions). Then, I tried to insert some bar checks
to verify that the bar lines were at the correct places
(unfortunately the bar checks don't give any sensible
information when you have the full score with different
time signatures in the different staves).
With your score, the bar checks didn't show anything wrong
(maybe you had already tried it) so I got suspicious about
the warning printouts about beams. It turned out that the
culprit was a miswritten beam ending at line 81 in your file:
\times 2/3 {b16 [e, g} \times 2/3 {b16 gis e[} c8 f4. c8 b'
which should be
\times 2/3 {b16 [e, g} \times 2/3 {b16 gis e]} c8 f4. c8 b'
I think what happened was that LilyPond will not introduce any
line breaks when there is a beam.
/Mats
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
I looked it up and think that as long as the
\break is at a barline it will produce a line break
however ...
I realize that this score is 'odd' but the \break (s) are at common
barlines for the two staves however that doesn't seem to work so the
pdf output doesn't really work either.
Jay
\version 2.6.0
\header {
title = Jat 6
composer = Jay Hamilton
subtitle = suite for two alternating instruments
copyright = CC some rights reserved Jay Hamilton 2005
}
one = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 5/4
#(set-global-staff-size 19)
\tempo 4=90
e4 b' gis ais e b' ais b c e c2 b4 ais b c gis gis e2 c8 e f e gis e
c f e4
r1 r4 e8 b' c b ais16 b c8 b e,4. ais4 ais gis ais b e, ais8 ais gis
f e2 r1 r4
%page 1
c'8 f, b c b e, c' b ais4 ais gis gis ais2 b4 e, f ais2 c8 e c e b e
b e,4.
f8 c' f, c' b4 e, c f8 c' f, c' b e, f c'4. f,8 c'4 e8 b gis e b'
ais4 f8 f e f
c8 b ais f'4. e8 e c e c4 ais gis' c,8 b b'4 c b ais gis2. r2 c4 b f2.
%page 2
e8 gis4. ~ gis2. f8 gis4 b8 c4 e8 c e4 f2. r2 gis8 f16 e c2 gis'8
f16 e c b c8
b16 ais gis e f gis f8 e16 f e8 f2
f'16 e c b ~ b8 ais16 b ~ b8 f'16 e c b gis gis ais f8.
f'16 e c b ~ b8 ais16 b ~ b8 f'16 e c b gis gis ais f8.
e16 f8 e16 gis4 e16 f8 e16 f4 ais f'16 e c b ~ b8 ais16 b ~ b8 f'16
e c b
gis 16 gis ais f8. e16 f e c ~ c b c8 ~ c4 b16 c f ais gis e f c
%page 3
\break
ais4 b16 c f e gis ais f e c' b e b gis4 f16 gis f ais f gis f e c f
ais16 gis c e b c ais4 gis16 f ais f b4 c16 b e c f e c b e,4 c2 f16
e f8 ~ f2
r1 r4 c' c c c r f, f f e2 r1 r4 b' b b e2
\break
%page 4
r1 r4 f2 c ais8 gis ~ gis1 r4 c,8 e f4 r gis8 ais b4 r c2 f,8 ais4.
gis8. e16 f4 b, c2 r1 r4 \times 2/3 {f8 (e f)} \times 2/3 {ais8 (gis
ais)}
\times 2/3 {c,8 (b c)} \times 2/3 {b'8 (ais b ~ )} \times 2/3 {b8
(ais b)}
\times 2/3 {c8 (b c)} \times 2/3 {ais8 (gis ais)} \times 2/3 {gis8 (f
gis)}
\times 2/3 {f8 (e f)} \times 2/3 {e8 (c e)}
%page 5
\times 2/3 {e8 (c e)} \times 2/3 {f8 (b, f')} \times 2/3 {gis8 (c,
ais')} b4 \fermata
f' \fermata c1 ~ c4 f b c,2 f4 f b c e,2 e'4. c4. gis f8 ~ f2 \times
2/3 {e8 c e}
c2 \times 2/3 {b8 (c b)} e,2 \times 2/3 {f8 (ais f)} gis8 [c f,] e8.
f gis4 c,2
r1 r4 gis' f ais e b' c, b c'2. ais'4 \ppp gis f2.
\bar ||
}
two = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 3/4
c4 r2 ais4 r2 ais4 r2 e'4 r2 b4 r2 c4 r2 e4 c2 f4 r2 e4 c f e f c' b
f e f
ais4 b c c, f e f c' ais gis c f e c b c2 b,4 r2 ais4 r2 gis4 r2 b4
r2 ais4 r2
c4 r2 e4 r2 b4 r2 f4 r2 c'4. r4. c4 r2 ais4 r2 c4 r2
e2 c4 ais2 c4 b2 b4 ais gis c b ais e' c b f'2 ~ f4 gis8 ais gis [f]
e c ais4 ~ ais
b8 [c] e [f] gis [ais] e [f] c b ~ b2. c8 [e] c [b] c e f2 r4 r gis8
[ais] b ais
gis8 [ais] c [ais] gis e
f8 c f2 c16 e f gis ais gis ais b
c,16 b ais c b ais8 c16 ~ c8 ais16 f' e c e c
\time 1/4
b16 c e f16
\time 3/4
c16 b ais c b ais8 c16 ~ c8 ais16 f' e c e c b16 c e f16
f c16 e f ~ f [\times 2/3 {gis f e} f16] ~ f8 [e16 c] b ais8 ais16 ~
ais8. b32 e
f4
%page 7 line 4
\times 2/3 {e8 gis b} e4 c16 b ais b c gis8
Re: using \break doesn't work or at least not as I expect
Graham- In this case adding barline checks and removing the duplicate \breaks did not produce a break where I put it. Jay Graham Percival wrote: On 6-Aug-05, at 7:41 AM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: I looked it up and think that as long as the \break is at a barline it will produce a line break however ... I realize that this score is 'odd' but the \break (s) are at common barlines for the two staves however that doesn't seem to work so the pdf output doesn't really work either. Please try adding a few barline checks | to make sure that you're actually inserting the \break at a bar line. In addition, the \break only needs to be in one part. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
using \break doesn't work or at least not as I expect
r2.
\times 2/3 {e'8 [e e]} \times 2/3 {c [c c]} \times 2/3 {ais ais ais}
\times 2/3 {e'16 e e} \times 2/3 {c c c} \times 2/3 {b [b b} \times 2/3
{f' f e]}
\times 2/3 {b8 [b b]} c2. ais'8 [b ais] gis [f e] ~ e2. \bar ||
}
\score {
\new Staff \one
\new Staff \two
\layout {
\context { \Score \remove Timing_engraver }
\context { \Staff \consists Timing_engraver }
}
\midi { \tempo 4=90 }
}
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Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?
Thank you that is exactly what I was thinking about. I had no idea that cutting and pasting from PDF would not result in exact duplication in ascii, so a warning is warranted. Noodig eigenlijk. Jay Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I guess the real argument is, clean up the documentation so that all examples actually work when cut-and-pasted. I think the proper thing is to add a note to the PDF docs that people should not expect cutting pasting from the PDF to work. PDF is made for getting accurate printout, not for transporting ascii text. -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?
YES!
That's problem/issue/solution thanks- I did get it to work after that
correction.
Hooray.
Jay
Bec and John wrote:
Hi Jim,
I just tried the Notes only template and got an error that I
commonly get when I copy and paste from the Lilypond manual - it
doesn't like the ’ character that is in the manual. I have to
manually delete them and reinsert ' . Then it typesets fine. Below
is the Notes only template with the modification, which works fine
on my installation of Lilypond 2.7.3 on OS 10.4.
\version 2.6.0
melody = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
a4 b c d
}
\score
{
\new Staff \melody
\layout
{
}
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
- John
When I copy and paste from the first template example and then copy
and paste my chosen notes I get
error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
\new Staff
\melody
When I delete those parts I get
A lovely pdf file no error messages and no midi even though I now
have at the end
\score {
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
So the example template in this instance does not seem to work at I
expect. Which is why I asked- what's the minimum?
Jay
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Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?
D-- John I did use text mode cut and paste from the pdf and that's where the problem came from. AND I need to check out the archive too. Thanks Jay Bec and John wrote: Hi Dax2, I use the PDF manual rather than the web browser. The archive is a great idea. If I may recommend, it'd be nice if you could browse by topic - as the archive grows it'll be unreasonable to just go through a long list (it's already very long). - John Oh! Now I can see what example was used here. In my browser cut and paste worked very well. The error which Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence experienced in the first place must come from something different than the manual or template source. There may be a browser-bug (automatic replacement of single-quote into accent aigue.) If you experience something like that then USE ONLY TEXTMODE-CUT+PASTE! Anyway beginner readers should fetch a bunch of simple examples in some special tutorial-snippet archive. Sebastiano Vigna is working on that! Han-Wen mentioned it to me earlier. I must say this is useful! Here is the link: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/html/whatsthis.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?
Hello- I've been reading the manual (2.6.1) I've looked at examples But if all I want is the simple single line score, a pdf and midi output what is the least I need to add? It looks like I have to add lines and lines of stuff just to add the midi out. Maybe, I hope, I'm wrong? Thanks. Jay -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What's the least input into a score to get midi output added?
When I copy and paste from the first template example and then copy and
paste my chosen notes I get
error: syntax error, unexpected STRING
\new Staff
\melody
When I delete those parts I get
A lovely pdf file no error messages and no midi even though I now have
at the end
\score {
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=60 }
}
So the example template in this instance does not seem to work at I
expect. Which is why I asked- what's the minimum?
Jay
Graham Percival wrote:
On 27-Jul-05, at 3:00 PM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
I've been reading the manual (2.6.1)
I've looked at examples
But if all I want is the simple single line score, a pdf and midi
output what is the least I need to add?
It looks like I have to add lines and lines of stuff just to add the
midi out.
Please look at the Example templates. They produce pdf and midi.
- Graham
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unexpected digit with tied chords
I'm getting an error message
syntax error, unexpected DIGIT, expecting DRUM_PITCH or NOTENAME_PITCH
or ''
a8 ges d2 a
but I have entered
a8 ges d2 a4 c ~
\time 7/4
a2. c {(a2 bes)\\ d1}
2.6.1 windows
I've tried spacing and different ways of entering the material but
nothing seems to get rid of the error.
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Re: unexpected digit with tied chords a manual documentation lack
I found the problem- the manual doesn't really explain this very well.
The example(s) in chapter 6 of the manual leave out any mention of how
to define the value of the chord - it turns out that it must be entered
outside the not inside as I had thought.
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
I'm getting an error message
syntax error, unexpected DIGIT, expecting DRUM_PITCH or NOTENAME_PITCH
or ''
a8 ges d2 a
but I have entered
a8 ges d2 a4 c ~
\time 7/4
a2. c {(a2 bes)\\ d1}
2.6.1 windows
I've tried spacing and different ways of entering the material but
nothing seems to get rid of the error.
Jay
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Re: doesn't count triplets beginning on offbeat
It's the braces that I missed thanks.
As for the suggestion re; a8 I believed and the results seem to indicate
that the default mode is- whatever value was last entered remains until
changed-
I would think that less clutter would be preferable unless it really is
possible for the program to get confused.
So could you clarify that for me?
Jay
Paul Scott wrote:
Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
I have windows 2.6.1
I entered
\times 2/3 {f 8 [ges ges]} ges c, f4 f 16 ges d bes
c 16 ges f 8 es 16 f d es c 8 c' a bes 8~ \fermata
bes 8 es,( ges bes ) es, ( ges bes ) es,
ges 8 d' ( es d ) c 4 ~ c 16 d 8. ~
\time 7/16
d 16 [ es, 32 es d 16 ] ~ d 8 [ c 32 c bes 16 ]~
\time 5/4
b 8 a ~ a 4. \breathe \times 2/3 d 8 [c d ] \times 2/3 es [ ges bes ]
a ~
\time 5/8
a 8 \times 2/3 ges [ f es ] \times 2/3 c [d c ]
\time 4/4
\times 2/3 es [ ges f ] c' 4 bes 8. bes 16 bes 4
You need curly braces around anything following an operator like
\times 2/3 so Lily will know what to apply the operator to (just as
you did correctly for the first triplet above). I also suggest you
give a time value to anything enclosed in \times x/y { a8 ... }. I
would have to guess what type of triplets you wanted
b 8 a ~ a 4. \breathe \times 2/3 { d 8 [c d ] } \times 2/3 { es [ ges
bes ] } a ~
\time 5/8
a 8 \times 2/3 { ges [ f es ] } \times 2/3 { c [d c ] }
\time 4/4
\times 2/3 { es [ ges f ] } c' 4 bes 8. bes 16 bes 4
Paul Scott
But in the measure of 5/4 the triplets are beamed correctly but not
labeled as triplets and the barline is before not after the a ~
So the 5/8 time signature is now in the middle of the measure and the
4/4 time signature is too. In fact the triplet in the 4/4 measure is
not labeled either.
So it is as though a triplet beginning on the offbeat is not
something recognized by this version?
Or did I enter something wrong?
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Re: Fermata on second tied note [example]
Donald- Well I just tried to edit the piece (by the way thank you for saying it's interesting- that was only a bit of one section of a suite that's going on 10 pages so far) and when the output looked correct (as in your example). I had another closer look at what I submitted. It turns out that in measure 9 there is a 16th then a dotted 8th tied to a 16th and that the dot under the tie looks like a fermata. I'm not sure what kind of solution there could be to that problem given the layout overall of lily so I've decided not to submit it as a bug- 1) because it's not a bug just damn hard to read 2) I can think of no reasonable solution to the problem at this time. But at least the mystery is cleared up for now. Thanks again Jay dax2 wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:10:22 -0700 Jay wrote: In Measure 9 the fermata should be over the second d and the two d's are tied. The same issue in measure ten. So can't I do that yet? I have minimized your interesting example, and it seems to work very well, fermata and all on the second, tied note. Look at the attached small png and tell if that was what you wanted. Maybe you have detected a 2.6.x-bug? To all message-writers: Please use an informative subject line. /Donald Axel -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
doesn't count triplets beginning on offbeat
I have windows 2.6.1
I entered
\times 2/3 {f 8 [ges ges]} ges c, f4 f 16 ges d bes
c 16 ges f 8 es 16 f d es c 8 c' a bes 8~ \fermata
bes 8 es,( ges bes ) es, ( ges bes ) es,
ges 8 d' ( es d ) c 4 ~ c 16 d 8. ~
\time 7/16
d 16 [ es, 32 es d 16 ] ~ d 8 [ c 32 c bes 16 ]~
\time 5/4
b 8 a ~ a 4. \breathe \times 2/3 d 8 [c d ] \times 2/3 es [ ges bes ] a ~
\time 5/8
a 8 \times 2/3 ges [ f es ] \times 2/3 c [d c ]
\time 4/4
\times 2/3 es [ ges f ] c' 4 bes 8. bes 16 bes 4
But in the measure of 5/4 the triplets are beamed correctly but not
labeled as triplets and the barline is before not after the a ~
So the 5/8 time signature is now in the middle of the measure and the
4/4 time signature is too. In fact the triplet in the 4/4 measure is
not labeled either.
So it is as though a triplet beginning on the offbeat is not something
recognized by this version?
Or did I enter something wrong?
Jay
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Re: bug? or just in competence on my part?
Graham- I keep on trying to use conver-ly and it keeps on saying that I
don't have getop which I do I can see it in the same place as convert-ly
so I've never been able to get it to work.
I think I've written that before and never received a reply but I'm not
longer sure.
Jay
Graham Percival wrote:
On 17-Jul-05, at 3:55 PM, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote:
So I punted it to 2.6 and it's way worse. So could someone look and
tell me what to put before and after the 'notes'? Because I thought
I was following the rules but nothing seems to work.
Update the score with convert-ly. Versions 2.4 and above (I thought
it was
actually 2.2 and above, but maybe not) don't use \notes.
\score {
\notes
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bug? or just in competence on my part?
Hello-
I entered the piece below by hand into 2.2
There were a bunch of measures where the time signature worked but then
in the middle as if the former signature hadn't been canceled.
So I punted it to 2.6 and it's way worse. So could someone look and
tell me what to put before and after the 'notes'? Because I thought I
was following the rules but nothing seems to work.
Jay
\version 2.2.0
\header {
copyright = Most Rights Reserved
subtitle = Jay Hamilton
title = Jat 1
tagline = CC some rights reserved 2005 Jay Hamilton
footer = Rosegarden 4-1.0.1\_fervent
}
#(set-global-staff-size 24)
\score {
\notes
% force offset of colliding notes in chords:
\override Score.NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #1.0
\time 4/4
\context Staff = Staff 1
\set Staff.instrument = Staff
\context Voice = voice 0 {
\override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #2.0
\clef treble
\key bes \major
\partial 16*2
a' 16 ges'
a' 16 ges' f' 8 ~ f' 16 ees' f' 8 ~ f' 16 ees' f' 8 ~ f' 16 a'
ges' bes'
a' 16 c'' 8 bes' 16 a' ges' a' 8 ~ a' 16 bes' a' 8 ges' 16 ees'
d' 8 ~
d' 16 c' d' ees' c' d' 8 ees' 16 f' ges' a' ees' f' 8. ges' 16
a' 16 ees' ges' a' bes' 8 c'' 16 ~ c'' 8. r16 r d'' ees'' ees''
ees'' 16 d'' bes' 8 ~ bes' 16 a' bes' 8 a' 16 \times 2/3 {ges'
ees' f'} c' 16 ~ c' d' 8 r 16
r 16 ges' 8. ~ ges' 16 f' 8. ~ f' 16 r8. r16 ees' d' ees'
f' 16 ees' f' ges' ges' ges' ges' 8 ges' 16 f' ees' d' ees' d'
c' d'
d' 16 d' d' 8 r16 d' ees' 8 ~ ees' 16 f' ges' 8 ~ ges' 16 bes'
a' bes'
c''16 d'' 8. ~ d'' 16 ees'' ees'' ees'' bes' d'' d'' d'' a' ges'
a' bes'
%% 10
a' 16 ges' 8. ~ ges' 16 f' 8 a' 16 ~ a' c'' 8 a' 16 ~
a' c'' 8 f'' 16 ~
f'' 16 ees'' 8 bes'16 ~ bes' bes' 8 ges' 16 ~ ges' bes' 8 ees'
\times 2/3 {ges'8 bes' d''}
\times 2/3 {f'' 8 ges'' ges''} ges'' 8 c'' f'' 4 f'' 16 ges''
d'' bes'
c'' 16 ges' f' 8 ees' 16 f' d' ees' c' 8 c'' a' bes' 8\fermata ~
bes' 8 ees' ges' bes' ees' ges' c'' ees'
%% 15
ges' 8 d'' ees'' d'' c'' 4 ~ c'' 16 d'' 8. ~
d'' 16 ees' 32 ees' d' 16~ d' 8 c' 32 c' bes 16 ~
bes 8 a 8 ~ a 4. \breathe \times 2/3 { d' 8 c' d' } \times 2/3
{ ees' 8 ges' bes' } a' 8 ~
a' 8 \times 2/3 { ges' 8 f' ees' } \times 2/3 { c' d' c' }
\times 2/3 { ees' 8 ges' f' } c'' 4 bes' 8. bes' 16 bes' 4
a' 8. bes' 16 bes' 4 a' 16 bes' 8 bes' 16 a' bes' 8.
%% 21
a' 16 a' ges' f' ges' ees' 8. ~ ees' 16 d' ees' 8 d' 8.
ees' 16
ees' 4 a' 16 a' ges' f' ges' ees' d' ees' 16 ~ ees' d'
ees' 8
a' 16 a' ges' f' \times 2/3 { ges' 8 f' a' } ees' 8. d'
16 ees' 4
a' 16 a' ges' f' ges' ees' 8. ~ ees' 16 d' ees' 8 d' 8.
ees' 16
ees' 4 a' 16 a' ges' f \times 2/3 {ges' 8 f' a'} es'8.
d' 16 ees' 4
d' 32 ees' f' 8. f' 4 f' 16 c'' bes' 8 a' 4
%% 26
f' 16 c'' a' 8 ges' 4 ees' 16 ees' ges' ees' f' 4
ees' 16 d' c' 8 ~ c' 16 bes 8. f' 16 c'' bes' 8 a' 16
ees'' d'' 8
c'' 4 f'' 16 ees'' d'' ees' c'' 8 bes' 16 a' 16 ges' 8. f' 16
\times 2/3 {ges' 16 a' bes' } ges' 8 \times 2/3 {f'' 8 ges' f'}
\times 2/3 {f'' 8 ges' f'} d' 16 ees' f' d'
ees' 4 ges' 16 a' bes' ges' ees' 4 bes' 16 a' ges' a'
%% 30
f' 4 \times 2/3 {f'' 8 ges' f'} \times 2/3 {f'' 8 ges'
f'} d' 8 f'
a' 8 c'' ees'' 16 d'' c'' d'' bes' 8. a' 16 ges' f' ges' a'
bes' 8. a' 16 ges' f' ees' f' d' 8 f' a' c''
ees'' 16 f'' ges'' f'' a'' ges'' f'' 8 bes'' 16 ges''
f'' 8 ees'' 4 \fermata
\partial 4
d'' 4 \fermata
\bar |.
}
% Staff (final)
% notes
\paper { papersize = letter }
} % score
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Re: opening files with Notepad
I use something called TestEd in XP, it's free and is more powerful than notepad etc... and works fine for input editting ly files. Jay Paul Scott wrote: Daniel Ballenger wrote: Try wordpad. I don't think notepad cares about \n (newlines). Thus causing your run-together problem WordPad isn't really a text editor. I don't know how LilyPad is related to EditPad (they look about the same) but there are several good free text editors. I use EditPad Lite which knows how to convert line termination between DOS and *nix (and Mac). Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Install and Running Windows Native 2.6.0
Trent- I had the same confusion and someone named Scott directed me to the command prompt which you can get to via the start menu then run then type cmd then a window opens and you cd to the place where the file and convert.ly are and then it's convert.ly filename that should do the trick. Jay Trent J wrote: Good Afternoon all, I have just install the native Lilypond 2.6.0 and am currently having diffulty in accessing all the features of the program. First of all I discovered that installing the program in the usually Program Files directory causes problems later on because of the space in the folder names. I sorted this out by installing it in just c:\lilypond the drag drop feature works fine now. But my problems come after trying to do anything besides the drag the file over to the lilypond icon and produce a PDF. 1: How do you run the convert-ly program? Ms-Dos shell recognises no program. 2: How do you change the default lilypad editor?? 3: The VIM files also seem to be missing from this release. There seems to be no Windows specific documentation so I have no idea how to get everything up and running. Any help would be appreciated. P.S. Someone contacted my a while ago about beefing up the figured bass mode in lilypond. I would still like this to happen but never received any contact back after answering their email. Regards, Trent ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installing Lilypond
Alistair- I had the same experience with XP except that in a file somewhere were created pdfs and logs and the file that I had created so you might have created the thing just it's not where you expect it to be. Jay Yoga in Daily Life wrote: Hi, I have installed Lilypond 2.6 on my Windows ME computer successfully but when I run it a window flashes open and then closes again... thats all that happens... can you help? Regards, Alistair Radford New Zealand ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
abc2ly problem
Hello- Trying to use abc2ly in XP 2.6 version of Lily get this message Traceback most recent call last: File abc2ly.py, line 71, in ? ImportError: No module named getopt However I can see getopt in the folder, I don't think I should be able to find abc2ly.py but if I should it's not there. What should I be doing that I'm not? Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: XP how or in what does one invoke?
YES YES YES Thank you very very very much that was s cool. Jay Paul Scott wrote: Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: So, Han-Wen and Mats have directed me to XP and 2.6 convert tools however when I read the documentation it starts with invoked by Now on my linux machine I know (I think) how to invoke something however in Windows I haven't a clue. Start/Run Type cmd, press Enter Change to the desired directory with CD and type the command. Is that what you meant? Paul Scott -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fwd: Umm.. how to stop note stems merging?
You need to remove the then you'll have c2 two 8ths notes followed
by a 1/4 note not clear on why you have a ~ at the end either as I took
it off and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Jay
Jacob Rhoden wrote:
Hi,
I was unable to find help with this in the documentation. I have a problem where
a 4th note is merging with ann 8th note. Why does this happen, is there a way to
stop it? Here is my example:
{ \key c \major \time 4/4
{ c'2 } { b'8 b'8 f'4~ }
}
\version 2.6.0
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Re: converting abc to lily?
Mats- Alas, with all the recommendations to use the latest version especially with the better/easier .exe for windows I never did get the Cygwin version to work and deleted it almost immediately. So I guess the question becomes will the easier .exe for 2.6x contain abc2ly and midi2ly? Hope so. Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: It seems that the developers are still working to sort out these issues. As long as you use the installation of version 2.4 using Cygwin, all these programs are available and working and can be called from the Cygwin command prompt. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Mats- that's very interesting. What I can't see/find in the archives, or maybe just don't understand is how to acquire abc2ly or the midi2ly or python for that matter. Also when the instruction say invoke- I know where and how to do that in linux but am a bit uncertain as to how to go about that in XP- Does it mean that the program is already part of lily and that I need to run it from a command line? Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: The LilyPond distribution does indeed contain a program called abc2ly, see the section on Converting from other formats in the LilyPond manual. However, if you use the new installation package for Windows, there are some extra tricks needed to run the extra programs like convert-ly and abc2ly, since they rely on the program Python that isn't included in the installation (at least as far as I know) see the mailing list archives for more information. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
XP how or in what does one invoke?
So, Han-Wen and Mats have directed me to XP and 2.6 convert tools however when I read the documentation it starts with invoked by Now on my linux machine I know (I think) how to invoke something however in Windows I haven't a clue. Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
I too can read the French but it would be very convenient to have a translation so I do not inadvertently misunderstand. Merci Jay Benjamin Esham wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:10 AM, andrea valle wrote: (...Ehm, I'm sorry to be unpopular and I don't want to seem unkind...). I understand with no problem French and I like it very much even if I cannot speak it, but the language of the list is, helas!, English: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Maybe other people cannot understand French and they are excluded from discussion. Perhaps when a message is posted in a language other than English, people who can read that language could send a [rough] translation to the list as well. That way, people could ask questions even if they do not speak English (though getting replies would be another matter, I guess). If I see a message in French and no one has sent along a translation, I may do this to make sure the question reaches the broadest possible audience. Any other thoughts about this? -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installing on Windows XP, anybody got a script for converting abc to lily?
Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. What age/levels are you working with? Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Wow! Thanks for the quick response. Done what you said and it works! I like the example files! It really does look classy. I think I agree with you, re: the teaching. However it could be a link between programming and music - I dont know, as I know next to nothing about the former, Anyways Thankyou for your time Rich. From: Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Richard Glascodine [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Installing on Windows XP Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:30:47 -0700 Richard- I teach also and I'm not sure if this program will do the trick at this stage in it's development. It's very time consuming and constantly changing. That said. Run the set up exe and that's when you should be able to place the icon and other info where you need it. Ex. For convenience in my mind I made a lily folder everything is in there. There will be a welcome file and it will tell you what to do next. From there it's a matter of really using the documentation- cutting pasting and constantly correcting. In all honesty I have found that working with lily... in linux is about 8x easier than in XP even though running linux is probably 7x harder to run in a usual way. If you've had experience with Sibelius/Finale/Sunhawk/Noteworthy/ and some programing then lily will be just another step into the world of control but it's a really tall step. Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Sorry about that, I pressed Enter by accident! Hi, Yeah, I'm really keen to try out lilypond. I too agree with you that Sibelius Scores et al just dont look right- they look really amatuer dont they. Anyway I digress I followed your instructions about downloading lilypond for WIndows XP through setup.exe. My question is what happens after it has downloaded, does an icon appear on my start menu or do I have to type a command line or something? (Which I'm not sure how to do). Some things which may help: I chose a differerent download site because the one on the top took ages (about 0.6kbs) - I have boadband - thats a shit rate! Also, the installer kind of 'froze' at 99% (annoying) but when I clicked cancel a window popped up and said installation complete, so I carried on anyway. If you could clarify a few points for me that would be great as I really want to see what the results are like. I'm starting a music teaching course in September (for schools) and I'm just sussing out open source software, to see if they are suitable in my music teaching. (I'm also sussing out linux as well but its confusing!) Many thanks Richard Glascodine (wannabe lilypond user) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:converting abc to lily?
Mats- that's very interesting. What I can't see/find in the archives, or maybe just don't understand is how to acquire abc2ly or the midi2ly or python for that matter. Also when the instruction say invoke- I know where and how to do that in linux but am a bit uncertain as to how to go about that in XP- Does it mean that the program is already part of lily and that I need to run it from a command line? Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: The LilyPond distribution does indeed contain a program called abc2ly, see the section on Converting from other formats in the LilyPond manual. However, if you use the new installation package for Windows, there are some extra tricks needed to run the extra programs like convert-ly and abc2ly, since they rely on the program Python that isn't included in the installation (at least as far as I know) see the mailing list archives for more information. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Richard- If you know anything about abc files? It's a system mostly for trad (read folk) music usually single line though it is more flexible than that. Anyway the 'programing' is similar, rather simple and then you just need a program to translate it to notation. Again similar to the convert.ly part of lily except lily doesn't read abc files. Tabledit does and it's something else that you could be familar with as it is both a notation/guitar program and does some of what lily does too. -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Installing on Windows XP
Richard- I teach also and I'm not sure if this program will do the trick at this stage in it's development. It's very time consuming and constantly changing. That said. Run the set up exe and that's when you should be able to place the icon and other info where you need it. Ex. For convenience in my mind I made a lily folder everything is in there. There will be a welcome file and it will tell you what to do next. From there it's a matter of really using the documentation- cutting pasting and constantly correcting. In all honesty I have found that working with lily... in linux is about 8x easier than in XP even though running linux is probably 7x harder to run in a usual way. If you've had experience with Sibelius/Finale/Sunhawk/Noteworthy/ and some programing then lily will be just another step into the world of control but it's a really tall step. Jay Richard Glascodine wrote: Sorry about that, I pressed Enter by accident! Hi, Yeah, I'm really keen to try out lilypond. I too agree with you that Sibelius Scores et al just dont look right- they look really amatuer dont they. Anyway I digress I followed your instructions about downloading lilypond for WIndows XP through setup.exe. My question is what happens after it has downloaded, does an icon appear on my start menu or do I have to type a command line or something? (Which I'm not sure how to do). Some things which may help: I chose a differerent download site because the one on the top took ages (about 0.6kbs) - I have boadband - thats a shit rate! Also, the installer kind of 'froze' at 99% (annoying) but when I clicked cancel a window popped up and said installation complete, so I carried on anyway. If you could clarify a few points for me that would be great as I really want to see what the results are like. I'm starting a music teaching course in September (for schools) and I'm just sussing out open source software, to see if they are suitable in my music teaching. (I'm also sussing out linux as well but its confusing!) Many thanks Richard Glascodine (wannabe lilypond user) [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
very simple question re; verbose?
Hello- this is probably a basic linux type question- however. I have a file that I have been editing from midi to lily. I finally have it so there are no line break problems but then suddenly there is something about lyric and to find the problem run it in verbose. I don't know how to do that. Thank you for your patience -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: very simple question re; verbose?
Oops, Mats your are using terms I'm not even sure I understand. I know that linux users are 'supposed' to know all this stuff but that's truely not me. So- I know how to do a man command or help but When I want to look at a lily file I either; open it with kwrite (yuck but it's available and ok) or I click on the file icon and a window opens that either tells me what is fine or not and Another window with the notation to look at. However it all happens so fast, even at that point that it does not seem possible to type in a 'verbose' command in the text frame at all. Therefore you must be referring to something else. A guess is that you think I'm opening a konsole and opening the file from there. Let me know if this is what you thought I was doing and then which step is the common one to take. Thanks Jay Mats Bengtsson wrote: I'm not sure what you need. From the lilypond manual or the command lilypond --help, you can find the flags to get more verbose printouts from the program. If you need to save to to a log file since it scrolls away too quickly, then you can do lilypond --verbose myfile.ly logfile 21 if you use bash as your shell or lilypond --verbose myfile.ly logfile if you use csh or tcsh. /Mats Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: Hello- this is probably a basic linux type question- however. I have a file that I have been editing from midi to lily. I finally have it so there are no line break problems but then suddenly there is something about lyric and to find the problem run it in verbose. I don't know how to do that. Thank you for your patience -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Staff size and font names
In my limited experimentation they are relational to each other. I.E. the larger the staff size the large in relation to that size are the fonts used. Jay Basil Crow wrote: In the following sample: % change for other default global staff size. myStaffSize = #20 #(define fonts (make-pango-font-tree Minion Pro Myriad Pro Courier (/ myStaffSize 20))) what is the relevance of the myStaffSize = #20 line in relation to selecting font names. I don't quite understand how they go together. Thanks, Basil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Painfully making my way...
Check to make sure that the manual you are using is for the same version as the lilypond that you are using. I didn't pay attention to this and had the same problem. Jay Sebastiano Vigna wrote: ...into LSR being working again. For some reason, lilypond refuses to compile any snippet from the manual. For instance, lily-1260486893.ly from the manual (the first example about notes) lilypond test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.5.31 Processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... [2]test.ly:2:32: In procedure module-lookup in expression (ly:parser-print-score p (ly:music-scorify m p)): test.ly:2:32: unbound variable: output-classic-framework Any hints? -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New Installation of 2.5.29 on FreeBSD
Yes both of those do work. I generally have tried to adjust the 'size' using various numbers until I get the result I want. So Yes letter Yes set size to 20 or less and it should do the trick. Jay dpeach wrote: Is it possible to adjust the default paper-size to letter instead of A4? I have a score with this in it: #(set-default-paper-size letter) I assume that does it. I am working from another hymn that I have hacked up. And, in one hymn, the staff systems are quite far apart, taking two pages, but I would like to squeeze the whole thing on one sheet -- how can I adjust staff spacing, or font size? I do it like this: #(set-global-staff-size 20.5) That seems to adjust the staff size. Just a bit larger and it bleeds onto the second page. Neither of these do I really know much about, but they seem to do the trick for me. I am in the process of learning this. Learning a handful of stuff each day. Just have not gotten around to what these 2 lines mean, they just seem to do the job. Hope this helps and gets me on the track to being able to help instead of always asking questions. dpeach ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re; Title on 2nd/3rd page? and Margins
Hello- I'm trying to learn lilypond via Studio to GO which at the moment distributes 2.2x lilypond. One thing I cannot decipher/find is how to get the title of the piece onto each page. It seems that there is a limit on the footer so it cannot go clear across the bottom of the page and nothing I read in the 'creating titles' addresses my desire. Is it possible to do? If so what do I need to do? Thanks- I've looked at the possibility of Lilypond for a few years and not been able to get a solid download to try it out. So far it's worked well. Oh can I control the margins better? Changing them in the printer controls doesn't seem to work. I like to use a 3 ring binder and having the margins larger than default would be nice. Great program. I look forward to some response. Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence POB 14162 Seattle, Wa. 98114 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
