Re: Version Control and Public Repository
I wonder whether there are other Lilypond users who share their scores openly on Github. Am I the first? That seems unlikely. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Lucas Gonze wrote: > As wonderful as Mutopia is, it can't be the home of all open scores. > It would be good to have an aggregator-based approach rather than one > where everybody uses the same repo. > > Personally, I use Github whenever I make a Lilypond score of a public > domain source. See: > > https://github.com/lucasgonze/ > > I don't get much usage of the scores I post there, though. Even when I > do something blatantly wrong nobody corrects my errors. > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 09.11.2012 17:54, schrieb Wim van Dommelen: >> >>> Try IMSLP to start with. Tons of very interesting music available there. >>> >>> http://imslp.org/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Wim. >>> >>> >> Yes, that's what I'd said also (if I understand you right that you are >> looking for score that can be recreated with LilyPond). >> The offer much that isn't really in the public domain, though. >> >> Best >> Urs >> >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Version Control and Public Repository
As wonderful as Mutopia is, it can't be the home of all open scores. It would be good to have an aggregator-based approach rather than one where everybody uses the same repo. Personally, I use Github whenever I make a Lilypond score of a public domain source. See: https://github.com/lucasgonze/ I don't get much usage of the scores I post there, though. Even when I do something blatantly wrong nobody corrects my errors. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 09.11.2012 17:54, schrieb Wim van Dommelen: > >> Try IMSLP to start with. Tons of very interesting music available there. >> >> http://imslp.org/ >> >> Regards, >> Wim. >> >> > Yes, that's what I'd said also (if I understand you right that you are > looking for score that can be recreated with LilyPond). > The offer much that isn't really in the public domain, though. > > Best > Urs > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > It is not really new, but I keep being surprised at the things > proprietary/commercial software vendors are getting away with doing to > their paying customers. Vendors have your existing scores as hostages to keep you paying. It's the opposite of a value proposition. Free software also has that hostage effect, but to a lesser extent. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]
> Lucas Gonze writes: > >> I made the same switch and am happy about it. I'm not as fast with >> Lilypond yet, but am getting there. >> >> I especially like that that my scores won't become uneditable whenever >> I stop buying upgrades from Sibelius. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > How would that happen? I would imagine that if you keep your scores and > software version unchanged, they should remain working on a given > system. ... And of > course, there is no need to _buy_ upgrades. You'd think so, but the underlying OS changes and Sibelius doesn't rev old versions to keep up. The last version of Sibelius that I paid for now crashes on boot. As a result I can't launch Sibelius for tweaks like key changes. The only solution is to re-enter a score in Lilypond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]
I made the same switch and am happy about it. I'm not as fast with Lilypond yet, but am getting there. I especially like that that my scores won't become uneditable whenever I stop buying upgrades from Sibelius. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Michael Rivers > I'm a current Sibelius user who found Lilypond after panicking a little and > a doing quick web search for open source notation software. I don't know how > many other users may check out LP, but I love it so far. I just asked my > wife to choose among the same piece I printed using Sibelius, the Finale > demo, and LP, and she immediately pointed to the LP score and said "That > one's perfect." > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Sibelius-Software-UK-office-shuts-down-tp17227p130605.html > Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote:> > Is it architecturally possible to make a significant amount of >> overhead go away? Are incremental compiles plausible? > > Architecturally it is very difficult. Rather than making lilypond much > more complicated to do incremental rendering, why not invert the > problem: have your editor control line breaks, and use lilypond to > render just one line of music at a time. This is an excellent idea. It would also help expose the semantics of the piece to the front end code. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:22 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > It is very difficult. It's better to use a front-end editor that shows some > sorta mock-up of the score and that only compiles the nice LilyPond version > from time to time (if this exists). Getting an actual LilyPond score > requires calculating line breaks and there's no way to get rid of the > overhead. That said, we optimize all the time: I believe that for larger > scores w/ many staves, the current development version is faster than 2.14. > > As for the svg, significant improvement can be made in the speed of > LilyPond's svg export - contributions are certainly welcome in this area. > The backend is very well written but it is all in Scheme and can be quite > slow as it does not make reference to an external font file but rather draws > out every glyph. It wouldn't make sense to have completely separate codebases for quick-and-dirty and slow-and-pretty. IMO this is the blocker. Lilypond's C could be converted to Javascript using Emscripten. Is there any hope of that working with the Scheme? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > More generally than that, I think the reason to discuss is to _discover_ the > areas where you can cooperate. There are obvious areas of interaction -- > e.g. enabling Lilypond output for MuseScore and ensuring that it gets > updated effectively in response to Lilypond syntax changes. I have considered using Lilypond as a back end for front end hacking, but the compile time from .ly to .svg is way too high. Is it architecturally possible to make a significant amount of overhead go away? Are incremental compiles plausible? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Removing noChordSymbol - N.C
\set noChordSymbol = "" On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Anders Eriksson wrote: > Hello, > > I have just started using Lilypond and I must say it exceeds all my > expectations! > > I trying to add Chords to a melody using \chordmode and I have most things > working. > One thing that I would like to do is sometimes I don't want any chord, > usually in Pickup Measures. If I put a rest (r1) I get a N.C. > > Is there someway to make a rest without getting a no chord symbol? > > // Anders > > -- > Computer says No! > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musescore lands sponsoring?
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > I know I'm rehashing old ground, but I think that these projects stand to > mutually benefit from each other if and only if they evolve in "natural" > directions given their goals. ... In general, the idea of LilyPond is to > build a master engraver - a virtual person who, using various directives, > creates a score following hundreds of years of engraving knowledge. There's a lot of wisdom in your comment, Mike. I agree that the best thing would be for Musecore and Lilypond to define themselves in complementary ways. David, given the idea that the soul of Lilypond is engraving, I don't know if having musescore import Lilypond syntax is absolutely necessary or even absolutely possible. For them to do that would require using Lilypond as a library and constantly updating the import routines. The insane and incredible richness of Lilypond makes a 1-1 translation nearly impossible, so Musescore would have to support only a subset of Lilypond features. Not that I mean to convince you to invest spare time you don't have into musescore integration - apologies if I give that impression. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Mutopia
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > Speaking of which, Mutopia seems to be pretty much moribund. I sent a score > to their contributions e-mail address a couple of months ago, which was > never acknowledged and hasn't appeared on the web site. Nor did I get a > response to a mail pointing out a couple of errors in scores already on the > web site, and nothing has appeared there since early February. Personally I have been posting public domain scores to my github account. I think this is a better model than Mutopia. Sites like Mutopia should be aggregators rather than silos. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musescore lands sponsoring?
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils wrote: > AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest > and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the > musescore twitter account or something like this). > It may still work, but we can expect it to break a little more with each > Lilypond release. Musecore and Lilypond are both open source. A GUI would benefit Lilypond. There's no reason for a Lilypond person to not work on .ly export from the Musecore front end. I feel like this conversation is unnecessarily competitive. These projects have a *lot* in common. I am rooting for both. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Subject:,"Harvesting" comments from music sources
Here is an experiment I did with a hybrid web/notation approach: http://soupgreens.com/goodbyebooze/ Notice that everything but the notes is the standard browser stack. As an example of the benefit, the lyrics scale nicely if you zoom in or out with the browser. Or you could easily embed a comment tool like Disqus. On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Christopher Webster < christop...@claytonwebster.net> wrote: > There seems to be some conceptual overlap here with "literate > programming" tools such as WEB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEB). > > Whether there's enough overlap to be useful ... that I must leave you to > decide. > > > *Christopher*. > > On 2012-05-19 14:56, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > > Subject: > "Harvesting" comments from music sources > From: > Urs Liska > Date: > 2012-05-19 12:29 > To: > Lilypond-User > Hi list, > > any ideas/experience on parsing lilypond input files for special comments > and produce some documentation from it? > > I would love to write editorial comments directly in the lilypond source. > Some script could then read these from the source and produce html or > OpenDocumentText or some latex input file. > > What could be a practical approach or language for this? > Are there solutions to build upon? > > Best > Urs > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Mediawiki
Hi Lilypond-user,
I stumbled across a Mediawiki plugin that enables music, among other
multimedia. Music would be written in Lilypond.
http://wikitex.org/
Quote from there:
After you place special tags in your wiki article, WikiTeX goes to
work; in a nutshell,
\relative c' {
e16-.->a(b gis)a-.->c(d b)c-.->e(f dis)e-.->a(b a)
gis(b e)e,(gis b)b,(e gis)gis,(b e)e,(gis? b e)
}
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Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering
On Dimanche, sep 14, 2003, at 22:28 America/New_York, Graham Percival wrote: I don't know if this works in OSX or not, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't; have you tried timidity++? That's what I use to check my scores on Linux. Timidity++ is perfect, Graham. Thanks for hooking me up. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering
For what it's worth, I found a non-bloated midi renderer for OS X that lets you adjust the tempo. Still a GUI tool, but fine otherwise. Google "Mighty Midi". - Lucas On Mardi, sep 16, 2003, at 07:47 America/New_York, Terje Tjervaag wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:14:46 -0400 Lucas Gonze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course there are a bazillion software sequencers, but none of them meet the need. They're either bloated GUI tools, non-OS X, or pre-alpha dreamware. All I need is a MIDI renderer that respects tempo instructions, so that I can check my work without leaving Emacs. I don't know if this works in OSX or not, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't; have you tried timidity++? That's what I use to check my scores on Linux. I have had the same problem, midi tempo is not respected. However, this is only with respect to midi files produced from lilypond. All other midi files play fine in Quicktime player. Lilypond midi files revert to some kind of standard (most of the time too slow) tempo. Please let me know if I can help troubleshoot this somehow, it's quite annoying. Best, Terje _ Last ned nye MSN Messenger 6.0 gratis http://www.msn.no/computing/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: slightly OT question about midi rendering
Sorry to say that I tried moving the tempo command around and had no
luck. It's possible that I missed whichever magic location is
required, though, since my test file is from a template that I don't
fully understand. I will try again with simpler Lilypond source.
Actually, it's good news to hear that this is a Lilypond-related
problem, because Lilypond is open and healthy, while bloatware GUI
tools are not.
- Lucas
On Mardi, sep 16, 2003, at 08:25 America/New_York, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
It's several years since I looked at the MIDI generation last time,
but as far as I can remember, the tempo indication is set only in
channel 0 if you use the \tempo command within the \midi{...}
section but is set in the channel corresponding to the stave if you
use the \tempo command within the actual music definition.
Please try different combinations of having the \tempo command
only in the \midi{} or only in the \notes{} or both and report
back to the list if you see any differences.
/Mats
Terje Tjervaag wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:14:46 -0400
Lucas Gonze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Of course there are a bazillion software sequencers, but none of them
meet the need. They're either bloated GUI tools, non-OS X, or
pre-alpha dreamware. All I need is a MIDI renderer that respects
tempo
instructions, so that I can check my work without leaving Emacs.
I don't know if this works in OSX or not, but I can't imagine why it
wouldn't;
have you tried timidity++? That's what I use to check my scores on
Linux.
I have had the same problem, midi tempo is not respected. However,
this is only with respect to midi files produced from lilypond. All
other midi files play fine in Quicktime player. Lilypond midi files
revert to some kind of standard (most of the time too slow) tempo.
Please let me know if I can help troubleshoot this somehow, it's
quite annoying.
Best,
Terje
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slightly OT question about midi rendering
Sorry to get off topic so soon after starting to hang around here, but I have a question that Lilypond types are likely to know the answer to. The problem is that tempo instructions in MIDI files are ignored by all the free sequencers I've been able to find for OS X, my working platform. The same issue was discussed on this ML before, and the responses were to abandon all hope because the problem is in the sound card. Of course there are a bazillion software sequencers, but none of them meet the need. They're either bloated GUI tools, non-OS X, or pre-alpha dreamware. All I need is a MIDI renderer that respects tempo instructions, so that I can check my work without leaving Emacs. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. - Lucas ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: question about accidentals
On Samedi, sep 13, 2003, at 12:22 America/New_York, Rune Zedeler wrote:
Lucas Gonze wrote:
Given the following score, the 2nd note should come out in the DVI as
an F sharp, but is instead an F natural. Any suggestions? Have
mercy -- I am still struggling through the "hello world" stage.
\score {
\notes {
\clef treble
\time 3/8
\key g \major
g16 f e dis e c
}
\paper {}
}
"f" means f natural, "fis" means f sharp.
If you want f sharp, then why did you write "f" instead of "fis"?
We see this question very often on this list - and I REALLY don't
understand why... :-(
I don't mean that the F note comes out of lilypond as an unmarked F
with no accidentals, I mean that it comes out with an F with a natural
accidental, which cancels out the F# in the key signature.
The counter impression comes from the tutorial bit where it says
"Accidentals don't have to be marked explicitly: you just enter the
note name, and LilyPond determines whether or not to print an
accidental." To my ear that reads like you follow the same principle
as with notes on ledger lines, where you mark the default accidentals
as part of the key signature and then don't mention the accidental
unless you want to deviate from the defaults. That's how all musicians
think about accidentals, which is you see the question over and over.
As I'm coming to understand it, if you are in "\key F \major",
"bes" will give you a no-accidental B
"b" will give you a b with a natural accidental
Yeah?
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question about accidentals
Given the following score, the 2nd note should come out in the DVI as
an F sharp, but is instead an F natural. Any suggestions? Have mercy
-- I am still struggling through the "hello world" stage.
\score {
\notes {
\clef treble
\time 3/8
\key g \major
g16 f e dis e c
}
\paper {}
}
Lilypond version:
bash-2.05a$ ly2dvi --version
ly2dvi (GNU LilyPond) 1.6.7
OS:
bash-2.05a$ uname -a
Darwin Lucas-Gonzes-Computer.local. 6.6 Darwin Kernel Version 6.6: Thu
May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power
Macintosh powerpc
Thanks!
- Lucas Gonze
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