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Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> 
> But I guess you're on Windows. Anyone else?
> 
> 

Is it that evident? :(


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Re: setting notes alone

Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> 
> MonAmiPierrot wrote:
> 
>> And how to remove clef and meter?
> 
> \layout{
>   \context {
> \Staff
> \remove Clef_engraver
> \remove Time_signature_engraver
>   }
> }
> 
>> And how to remove just the staff pentagram, but keeping barlines?
> 
> \layout{
>   \context {
> \Staff
> \override StaffSymbol #'transparent = ##t
>   }
> }
> 
> - Mark
> 
Great.
Thank you Mark.
I used both tricks in one and added this instructions for cropping the
resulting eps/pdf:

  indent=0\mm
  oddFooterMarkup=##f
  oddHeaderMarkup=##f

then I entered the "\clef bass" and used only the note "a," to produce a
perfectly middle-positioned rhythmical examples, then I tried to put the
output in the LaTeX environment of my dissertation.

Anyway there's still too much white space up and down (respectively, the
equivalent of 1-2 and 3-4 inter-stafflines space) so that the example
doesn't fit.
I don't want to manipulate the outuput of all my examples: I want it to be
done already by lilypond: is there a manner to cut also the unused white
space (i.e. all the space above and under the standard staff?)  (better not
by the command-line)
Thanks

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Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up




Graham Percival-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> hey, that's life in open-source projects!  If you feel at all
> enthusiastic about the new website, please consider helping.
> 
> 
> 

Graham, I would like to help but definitely not now (and I don't know how:
I'm a zero in css, html, programming etc.)
Just a pair of suggestions:
- the top note in the download page should be bigger, blood red, blinking
and should grab the user by the face and oblige him to read it. It's just
too important. And it should not say "please", but just "If you do not know
what is a batch parser, JUST READ THIS CAREFULLY before doing anything
else". Better to scare 10 very unwilling (and unlikely really interested)
users than frustrating ONE otherwise good-willing one.
- the b/w image behind the lilypond is just too flat and boring. I would put
something much more elaborated, maybe with text. Otherwise, I would switch
to as it was before, just with the shaded green/white example, which is just
perfect.

Thank you for the effort. I think that everyone appreciate this very much.

Piero

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Re: setting notes alone




Jonathan Kulp-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> This snippet should help you out:
> 
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=167
> 
> 

Interesting.
And how to remove clef and meter?
And how to remove just the staff pentagram, but keeping barlines?

Thanks

Piero.

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Very small question about jEdit & LilyPondTool

2009-08-10 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Hello,
as I have an italian keyboard/system in windows XP, I believe I don't have a
key for character "~". Is there a way to set it in a dead key in jEdit?
Help me please with my ligatures, or I'll live forever in a "staccato"
world!!!

Piero

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Re: new website: draft 2.1, panic over "community"

2009-06-26 Thread MonAmiPierrot

In my opinion, there's something that still I miss: some music notes. Newbies
should understand by glance what this program is for.
I mean, the Lilypond image is ok, and it should stay there. But somewhere in
the page I have to see some staff/note/musicsymbol. Of course one typeset
with Lilypond.
Perhaps the flat-symbol-draft image would be ok to put somewhere, or maybe
just another zoomed detail of some staff with music. Perhaps it could go as
watermark image, or shadowed in the left or right column. Of course it
SHOULD be elegant, not just the same as thousand other websites, but don't
ask me how.

Another thing, quite unrelated: why not develop ALSO an alternative logo?
The alt logo should be black on white and typeset with LilyPond, and could
represent, playing with some musical symbols a lily or a lilypond.
For example it could be a staff (even a >5 lines one) with some whole notes
randomly placed. (the staff being the pond, the notes being the lily leaves)
It could also be perspectively flattened as if seen by placing the point of
view one inch above the bottom of the page (well, this is quite difficoult
to typeset with LiliyPond!) and maybe shadowed/unfocused/mysted... Ehi, the
most central whole note could be substitued with the LilyPond image!
Mmm... sorry it was just an idea...

Anyway, good job.

Piero

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Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?

2009-06-19 Thread MonAmiPierrot


I'm sorry I can't help on this level cause I have little-to-no knowledge on
how all of this works.
If you know of something in the web that can be taken as an example (I just
found out a web-based LaTeX project http://code.google.com/p/latex-lab/ but
still under development) could you give me the link?
Thanks
H.
P.S. A very simple author/version control could be enough for 99% of needs
if other 2 points are available in some way.





Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Well using commercial source control systems for handling lilypond
> projects seems quite odd. A wiki has many advantages to simple version
> control, though you could write a client that supports preview, multiple
> editions etc. But that would be a lot easier on a wiki platform.  
> 
>   Original message  
> From: Peter Chubb 
> Sent: 19 Jun 2009 14:22 +10:00
> To: Bertalan Fodor 
> Cc: MonAmiPierrot ,  
> Subject: Re: Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?
> 
>>>>>> "Bertalan" == Bertalan Fodor  writes:
> 
> Bertalan> A wiki would be perfect for this purpose I think. If the
> Bertalan> extension for the wiki is smart enough, it can generate
> Bertalan> various outputs.
> 
> Bertalan> MonAmiPierrot írta:
>>> Hello all, just some difficoult (but not stupid, I hope) questions.
>>> I talked about LilyPond in a conference on music edition and
>>> critical editions.  With my surprise, some musicologists (some of
>>> which don't even use Finale!)  asked me if LilyPond could be used
>>> in bigger critical editions projects (e.g., an opera) where
>>> multiple editors are involved. These editors would be:
>>> 
>>> 1- the copyst who does the big "physical" job of writing down the
>>> code 2- the main critical editor 3- some expert revisor 4- the
>>> final editor who cares about layout (and don't forget at point 0- :
>>> the orginal author!)
> 
> I'd prefer to use a source code control system for this kind of
> collaboration.  Because LilyPond is text based, things like Mercurial,
> Perforce, etc., work really well to allow collaborative work, and to
> track who did what.
> 
> --
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Advanced (web) LilyPond usage for multiple authors?

2009-06-18 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Hello all, 
just some difficoult (but not stupid, I hope) questions.
I talked about LilyPond in a conference on music edition and critical
editions.
With my surprise, some musicologists (some of which don't even use Finale!)
asked me if LilyPond could be used in bigger critical editions projects
(e.g., an opera) where multiple editors are involved. These editors would
be:

1- the copyst who does the big "physical" job of writing down the code
2- the main critical editor
3- some expert revisor
4- the final editor who cares about layout
(and don't forget at point  0- : the orginal author!)

being of course possible that some (if not all) of these authorships [or
"editorships"???] are condensed in the same person, but being possible on
the other hand that different people can work on one of the 4 main points.

The main interest for (at least one of) those musicologists was for a
suitable format/workplace in which one can keep track of interventions
(author control).
Of course I replied that plain LilyPond format can be used like this just by
using comments (%) and that one can keep track of changes just by reading
those comments.
And of course I added that with some effort one can find a manner to tag in
different way editorial interventions of different kind or heaviness (for
example: mechanical normalization; unquestionable filling of blank elements;
choosing between different versions; re-writing of missing parts; actual
performance needs) in order to produce different output if needed.

My question is:
is any of the web-based lilypond projects (the Valentin one, the Lex one,
the Mike one...) will ever be able to do any of this:
1- permit a authorship code handling like in those Google-code or so on?
2- show the resulting PDF?*
3- give some LilyPond-code editing facilities? (being of course obvious I
would previously transcript an entire opera in my desktop and only using a
proper tool like lilypondtool or similar one)

and all of this possibly for users who consider Finale "too difficoult" ;) ?
 

I know these requests could be quite hard, and I don't know if some of this
have been discuss before.
But I think that even if it is too early to start working on this, it's not
a bad idea to collect some ideas and start thinking about it (it's my
italian attitude: better thinking that working!).
Thanks all
 
* (Is it possible for Google code or any code repository to run LilyPond and
show the result??? In this way point 1 and 2 would be almost done in one
move.)

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Re: Help for paper about LilyPond and WYSIWYM sofware

2009-06-18 Thread MonAmiPierrot




MonAmiPierrot wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> in a couple of months I have to speak at a conference about computers &
> music/critical editions. I will introduce to a Finale-enslaved audience
> the great advantages of LilyPond (by the way, I'm going to talk more about
> LaTeX stuff: music things will be just one of the subjects).
> 
> 
I want to thank all of you who helped me in this thread and by personal
messages, most of all Valentin and Francisco.
I'm going to post in another thread some questions on what can be done with
Lilypond because some listeners asked me about these.

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Re: translation of the doc into italian

2009-06-14 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Federico Bruni-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> If other italians want to join, either for just proofreading or 
> translating also, please speak up.
> 
> 
> 

Contami (nei limiti delle mie possibilità e tempo).

Piero

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Re: JEdit question

2009-05-14 Thread MonAmiPierrot




rathcoffey wrote:
> 
> In the Editor, when I enter the backslash \ 
> 
> the editor autofills: 
> 
> \melody 
> 
> I have to remember each time to erase "melody" or else it creates errors. 
> It would be much more useful to have the backslash without the autofill. 
> How do I get rid of the autofill - anybody have any ideas? 
> 
I remember this issue: it's an autocompletion issue. It has been discussed
somewhere else already maybe in this forum. Of course happens with
\anything, not with a specific word. You have to search for the discussion.
I suffered from this but then maybe it didn't happen any more. Try to define
another variable, such as \fillerVariable with a filler content. When
reopining the file, it shouldn't happen again. I think the autocompletion go
crazy sometimes when you have hust one variable.
bye
Piero

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Re: Help for paper about LilyPond and WYSIWYM sofware

2009-04-22 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Mike Blackstock-3 wrote:
> 
>  I'm  on a kind
> of sabbatical working on a WYSIWYG Web interface for Lilypond, with a lot
> of
> AJAX and JSON as the mechanism for storage of the gui parts. I make my
> living (or used to up till recently) as a sysadmin and have had to deploy
> every new technology that's come along; usually learning just enough to
> get
> it up-and-running for the client and staying one or two steps ahead -
> then,
> on to something else. I wanted to take the time and look into this stuff
> in
> detail, which is what I've been doing and the possibilities are really
> exciting I think.
> 

Looks like very interesting. It's quite a bit of time I think web-based
editors are the (only) future, but it seems that still in 2009 not many
people catched this. The greatest problem with web word processors is not
the features (these can be implemented easily), is the feedback delay on
many web operations. For a Lilypond user, this problem may not be
annoying... so it seems to me a good idea.
But I'm philosophying. Can you keep us updated please?
thanks
Piero

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Re: dual window editor

2009-04-21 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Actually as LPT has its own parser, which can tell more or less whether 
> the current input is valid, a constantly updated view could be possible. 
> (Like looking for the last valid version of the file in every 30 seconds 
> and generate the file.)
> 

Yes yes yes please! I have many ideas about this feature, for example...


Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Feel free to contribute this feature ;-)
> 

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Re: Slur / phrasingSlur half dashed, half solid

2009-04-16 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 2. Will the transition always be in the middle, or would it be preferable
> to
> define the transition point (e.g. 3/4 dashed, 1/4 solid).
> 
> 
> 
Actually, I found out that the "editorial" dashed slur is used in a very
"simple" manner in critical editions score: "dashed" part may begin and end
in every point of the slur.  It is possible to find a in-middle dashed slur
when transcribing a manuscript fragment in which the composer wrote just the
beginning and the end of the slur.
I know it could be a programming hell, but the best thing (for THIS very
need) would be to "change-in-the-fly" the type of slur by using the
\slurDashed and \slurSolid in the exact point it should change its
appearance, for example:

... c ( d e \slurDashed f g \slurSolid a b c ) ...

would result that between "e" and "g" the slur is dashed.
This would be conceptually perfect for the needs of critical editions, but
as I said, it may be an hell to program, I don't know.

1 more thing: I hacked Marks code to represent half-dashed \phrasingSlur
(which is actually the ones I use), but I had to clone all the code. Could
you write it in a briefer and wisier way  (yours) ?
Thanks

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Re: Real World Usage

2009-04-14 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> in Hungarian, German and many other languages, the hyphenation often can 
> not be correctly done without knowing the meaning of that word.
> 
> Also, the same applies in LilyPond: if you use manual breaks to force 
> breaks at convenient places, upon further editing (which usually results 
> from spotting some missing notes or so), the whole layout must be 
> checked again. Using a WYSIWYG tool errors introduced like this are far 
> more easy to spot.
> 
If I can understand the hyphenation problem (of course you can solve this in
both LaTeX and LyX by entering the hyphenated word if they are not too many,
and the WYSIWYG is of zero help here), I can't understand which is "the
same" with Lily. Are you talking about plain layout? Perhaps the "errors"
you are talking about are easier to spot witha a WYSIWYG tool, and easier to
fix. But they can be ten times less common in Lilypond, and once
conveniently fixed, maybe 90% of them would not come back again next time
you change the layout.
Hope I understood your point.
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Re: Slur / phrasingSlur half dashed, half solid

2009-04-14 Thread MonAmiPierrot

Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> Oops.
> 

Just back and I find this Easter present. Thanks Mark.
On the dashed slur: I find it in the critical edition (Chicago Univ/Ricordi)
of Verdi's Traviata edited by musicologist Fabrizio Della Seta, with the
meaning of an editor-added slur.
This Traviata looks like a Sibelius score, although I highly doubt in 1997
someone used Sibelius for a critical edition (but I'll check, for sure).
Dashed slur is just "slur" shaped, not line-like; I asked for a half-dashed
slur just because I wanted to reproduce an extract of this score in order to
show to a music notation conference the possibilities of Lilypond (one point
would be "Thanks to Lily mailing list and Mark P., I have been able to
draw...")
Thanks again
Piero

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Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread MonAmiPierrot


...it's a dirty job but...

the italian term "crescendo" is not a noun, is a gerund (meaning "raising",
"growing"), so, when substantivated, in italian language, is indeclinable -
thus if I "amo il crescendo rossiniano", I still "amo tutti i crescendo
rossiniani" (if you find an italian who says "crescendi", you have the
license to kill him). In an english context, the plural is simple:
"crescendoes". 
If the english language respected italian (and french and spanish and
german...) language as it does with latin, I did not have to bother you!!!
But thanks for the try!
bye
Piero

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Re: Feat. request: autobehaviour of \unfoldRepeats

Jay Anderson wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> It wouldn't be hard to have this also unfold percent repeats.
> 
> 
> 

Of course, tremolos were the most important.
I'm with Hu: double tremolo notes are a must. They take the 90% of tremolos
I find in my work.
But if your \tremolos code works you'll save a huge amount of KB from my .ly
files.
On unfoldTremolo, I'll give a try, but if you confirm it works, I don't see
a reason not to implement it in next Lilypond version. What I suggest is to
having it work BY DEFAULT, cause 99,9% of tremolo users would switch it on
if they use MIDI output.
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\autochange for more than 1 voice?


Hello,
I tried without success writing piano music in which 2 different voices
(e.g. simply left and right hand) change staff automatically. I don't know
if \autochange is the right tool.
If there's no manner to achieve this, can I manually change staff in a
voice? In other words: how can I logically separate "left"/"right" hands
from "upper" and "lower" staff?
Hope it's clear, actually it is a very obvious need and perhaps you always
achieved it without even thinking.
Thanks

  

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Re: Feat. request: autobehaviour of \unfoldRepeats

Graham Percival-3 wrote:
>
>
> I *never* put \unfoldRepeats. If you want real music, listen to
> musicians.
>
Uhm... so, why don't we abolish \midi output?

I undestand what you said. It's because you mostly use \repeat for just
"\repeats volta", which I can understand is THE most used \repeat usage (so,
I apologize for the "99% of users"). For me, I only use "\repeat percent"
and most of all "\repeat tremolo". In both cases, audio output is important.
At least for tremolos, you'll perfectly agree that there's no point in not
playing it by midi (midi only play the note(s) that represent the length of
tremolo, not the notes of which trmolo actually consists: it doesn't make
sense, for me) I transcribe a lot of 19th century opera orch and piano
scores and in some operas there's almost no page without tremolos.
I would like to listen how it sounds, even with MIDI.
Unless, of course, you come in my studio with a bunch of singers and a
not-above-average late 19th century orchestra, direct them (and occasionally
play piano) when I need. Just when I need, of course, you'll have plenty of
spare time! ;)

bye
H.
P.S. Perhaps, the \unfoldRepeats behaviour should be the default behaviour
in case of "\repeat percent/tremolo", and not for "\repeat volta" (or
additionally in voltas also in case of different "alternative" endings). I
would like to know your (and all) opinions.

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Feat. request: autobehaviour of \unfoldRepeats


Hello,
I wonder why I (and, as I can imagine, 99% of users out there) have always
to put \unfoldRepeats in a different \score block just for correct MIDI
output, thus having to put in a variable all the \score content and use it
in both \score blocks.
 It's not -till now - a problem for me, but I feel it like a complication
(and thus, a potential danger) and I can't figure out why this should not be
the default MIDI behaviour, so that only if you don't want this you'll have
to put some code tweak.
Is there some technical problem? Any other reason not to change this
behaviour? If so, is there a manner to include this behaviour in a external
GenSetting.ly file in order to include it and having a "single \score" file
behave like this? 
thanks

Piero

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General settings in ext file

2009-04-09 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Hello,
I would like to put some gensettings in one .ly file to be included in my
pieces.
One of this settings is:

\context { 
% add the RemoveEmptyStaffContext that erases rest-only staves
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext 
}

for removing empty staves lines. But how can I put this in a file which will
be included at the beg. of a document outside the \layout? What's the best
way to achive this and similar settings in a general settings file?
Thanks
Piero

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Re: Real World Usage




Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> 
> Hi Piero,
> 
>> we must say breaking algorhythm is far better than Finale's
>> (the problem being that manual tweaking is *much* harder)
> 
> ?? I actually find the opposite... Finale's manual breaking system is  
> more difficult and less flexible than Lilypond's.
> 
Yes, but if you have, for example, to put long opera stage directions,
you'll live quite a hell with Finale, and the worst of possible hells with
Lilypond, because tweaking is hard in 1st case, nightmarish in 2nd one. But
yes, Lily algorythm is almost perfect, and in average cases I don't want to
touch such a perfection.


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Re: Real World Usage




Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
> 
> Well, WYSIWYM sucks by concept for one single reason. Typesetting can 
> not be totally automated because of hyphenation.
> So if you change something slightly that causes reflow, there is a small 
> chance that a word gets hyphenated at the wrong place.
> With WYSIWYM you should not care about this: an implicit expectation 
> that it will automagically solve everything well. But that's just not 
> the case.
> And the same applies for LilyPond. After the first manual tweak (you'll 
> certainly need SOME) you can never be sure any more that everything will 
> be fine during the development of the score.
> 
> 

I'm not sure what you mean with hyphenation. Hyphenation is not an issue in
TeX or any WYSISYG(M) editor, and I never had problems using it, so I can't
understan " But that's just not the case." could you give example? OTOH,
line/page breaking in music is a real issue, and in my case it's one of the
biggest sources of problems with LilyPond, although we must say breaking
algorhythm is far better than Finale's (the problem being that manual
tweaking is *much* harder).
Piero

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Re: Real World Usage

Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a parallel with LaTeX vs. GUI wordprocessors like Word or 
> OpenOffice.org. These are two different worlds, but somewhere inbetween 
> there is LyX. I kind of like the LyX approach. 
> 
> 

I like it too. it's real WYSIWYM. But some LyX users (and even developers)
think it is (and should be) a "almost-WYSIWYG editor". In my opinion this
would be a great error. LyX should never show pages and so on, just the
meaning of the doc, and this is the revolutionary potential of LyX that even
some developers IMHO didn't catch.
A similar approach to Lily (and notational music) is quite hard to achieve,
because music notation is quite a different thing than text. I mean: you
perhaps can't avoid some heavy WYSIWYG and thus a Finale approach.
But 1st one should ask himself "what do users need?" The 1st answer, I
think, is "fast, exact music writing with clear meaning/structure
representation and inmediate feed-back (better if visual and also audio)".
 In my opinion, this could be partially achieved in close future with a
jEdit/lilypondtool-like editor with a sort of live-lilypond encoder which
shows in almost real-time changes in the pdf or in other way. This could be
achieved by a new ultra light "ugly" modality of Lily which doesn't care
about aesthetics, lines and pages, just to show visual feedback of MUSIC and
perhaps its logic/structure, not his final "form". But still I would mainly
use a text editor like excellent jEdit.
I don't know too much WYSIWYG editors for Lilypond (just tried Denemo) but I
don't like them too much: IMHO they're very far from the LyX concept and
perhaps always will be.
The most important problem is that with every which one approach, it is hard
to save one of Lilypond most important quality: the ability to use variables
and to build music using its own internal logic. This is something that in
text you don't need because strong and continuous internal reference and
simmetry is a characteristic of music, not of text. Thus, the simpleness of
LyX is ok, but I can't think about a "LiLyXpond" in any shape. LyX can
graphically show the 99% of LaTeX code. A software able to graphically show
the internals of a Lilypond logically structured file is almost difficoult
to imagine, not mention to develop.

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Re: Real World Usage

Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a parallel with LaTeX vs. GUI wordprocessors like Word or 
> OpenOffice.org. These are two different worlds, but somewhere inbetween 
> there is LyX. I kind of like the LyX approach. 
> 
> 

I like it too. it's real WYSIWYM. But some LyX users (and even developers)
think it is (and should be) a "almost-WYSIWYG editor". In my opinion this
would be a great error. LyX should never show pages and so on, just the
meaning of the doc, and this is the revolutionary potential of LyX that even
some developers IMHO didn't catch.
A similar approach to Lily (and notational music) is quite hard to achieve,
because music notation is quite a different thing than text. I mean: you
perhaps can't avoid some heavy WYSIWYG and thus a Finale approach.
But 1st one should ask himself "what do users need?" The 1st answer, I
think, is "fast, exact music writing with clear meaning/structure
representation and inmediate feed-back (better if visual and also audio)".
 In my opinion, this could be partially achieved in close future with a
jEdit/lilypondtool-like editor with a sort of live-lilypond encoder which
shows in almost real-time changes in the pdf or in other way. This could be
achieved by a new ultra light "ugly" modality of Lily which doesn't care
about aesthetics, lines and pages, just to show visual feedback of MUSIC and
perhaps its logic/structure, not his final "form". But still I would mainly
use a text editor like excellent jEdit.
I don't know too much WYSIWYG editors for Lilypond (just tried Denemo) but I
don't like them too much: IMHO they're very far from the LyX concept and
perhaps always will be.
The most important problem is that with every which one approach, it is hard
to save one of Lilypond most important quality: the ability to use variables
and to build music using its own internal logic. This is something that in
text you don't need because strong and continuous internal reference and
simmetry is a characteristic of music, not of text. Thus, the simpleness of
LyX is ok, but I can't think about a "LiLyXpond" in any shape. LyX can
graphically show the 99% of LaTeX code. A software able to graphically show
the internals of a Lilypond logically structured file is almost difficoult
to imagine, not mention to develop.

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Does Nabble work ALWAYS?

2009-03-31 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Hello,
I'm just wondering if Nabble shows ALL messages of this mailing list, or
only Nabble-posted messages.
I ask this because I found out that it didn't in other mailing lists with
Nabble.
Just for a matter of debug, please reply also to my address if you use mail
client and not just Nabble!!!

Thx

Piero

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Re: lilypond-book setup for windows

2009-03-29 Thread MonAmiPierrot

Hajo Dezelski wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> thanks for the input.
> 
> After some hours of working with latex and several editors on windows
> and mac I decided to take the easy road: OpenOffice with the
> OOoLilypond Macro. It works not always as I thought, but with time I
> will find some workarounds.
> 

STOP!
Use LyX (www.lyx.org)
To have it work with lilypond-book is a little tweaky, but it's no harm if
you don't use complex packages, nomenclatures, bibliographies etc... but it
seems not to be  your case (most of all because you told us to use OOo which
is the zero degree of complexity for docs!).
Just edit the LyX doc (choose an adequate doc class) and put lilypond
snippets inside [LyX is a sort of editor of LaTeX)
Then, export to a LaTeX file, run lilypond-book on it and then run latex (or
pdflatex to have the result in pdf). The quality achieved can't even be
compared to OOo: just another galaxy.
All in a GREAT almost-WYSIWYG very fast and easy environment (well, for me
is much better than WYSIWYG: it's WYSIWYM cause Lyx shows you the doc
structure)
If you want order in your doc structure be afraid of WYSIWYG and M$Word-like
software, such as be afraid of Finale!!!

LyX can show plain LilyPond pdf output in it's working environment (without
the need of having it pre-compiled:just put your .ly file in a folder!)
inside the doc, but still can't process in real time lilypond-book snippets
AND you still have to do the tweak for watching the whole doc preview!!! So
you would need to "switch off" musical snippets to use normal, fast preview
of your document, but this is in no way hard: just ask me if you need.
About Lily editor: I use jEdit with LilyPondtool (linked to LyX!) and I
caouldn't imagine anything better, although I'm open to new solutions.

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Re: Help for paper about LilyPond and WYSIWYM sofware




Jonathan Kulp-2 wrote:
> 
> I haven't written any papers on this topic but wanted to be in touch 
> with you anyway.  My Ph.D. is in musicology and I have no formal 
> training in computers, though I have to say that my computer skills have 
> improved dramatically in the 18 months that I have been using Linux and 
> Lilypond.
> ...
> Please report back when you get back from giving the paper. :)
> 
> 

It seems our Lilypond history is quite similar. I use LyX even if it still
doesn't work with lilypond-book.
I'll report back.
Thanks
Piero

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Re: Help for paper about LilyPond and WYSIWYM sofware




Valentin Villenave wrote:
> 
> 
> I assume you already know about Andrew's paper:
> http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html
> 

Yep, and very useful! Anything more?
Thanks and regards




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Slur / phrasingSlur half dashed, half solid


Is there any way to have a half-dashed-half-solid Slur, i.e. a slur that
begins dashed and at a certain point turns solid (or viceversa?)
I tried with a \( and change to  \phrasingSlurDashed on-the-flow but it
doesn't change the once-started slur type.
Any idea?
Thanks.
Piero

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Help for paper about LilyPond and WYSIWYM sofware


Hello, 

in a couple of months I have to speak at a conference about computers &
music/critical editions. I will introduce to a Finale-enslaved audience the
great advantages of LilyPond (by the way, I'm going to talk more about LaTeX
stuff: music things will be just one of the subjects).

I'm a musicologist, not a LilyPond (or other software) pro so the thing
would definitely be something much more like a divulgative/ads/propaganda
;-) thing than a specialized research. For this reason, I want to cite some
statistics, relevant opinions, important projects/editions/initiatives based
on LilyPond and so on, which are not listed in LilyPond site.

Did anyone write something about LilyPond and the WYSIWYM “philosophy”?

Any help would be apreciated and - if possible - referenced.

Thanks, Piero

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Re: Command switch based on Lily version?

2009-03-22 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Peter Chubb-6 wrote:
> 
>> "Peter" == Peter Chubb  writes:
> 
> Peter> I embed Lily in a shell script for that kind of thing (I'm
> Peter> running on Unix):
> 
> 
> 

Thanks Peter, but it seems I didn't explain myself:
what I need is sometihng like this (the syntax is invented: I don't know
scheme] directly IN lily files:

LilyVers = [Get lilypond version: "2.10" or "2.12"]
IF LilyVers = "2.10" THEN Notes = {c d e} ELSE Notes = {c^\newMarkupCommand
d\newCommand e\newStuff }
\score { \Notes }

It's very simple, I'm sure is much more simple than at first glance.

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Re: MIDI not played by LilypondTool

2009-03-22 Thread MonAmiPierrot


For whom it may be interested:
I just put

#(ly:set-option 'midi-extension "midi") 

in my files
This .mid thing is weird... I can't understand why they changed it.

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Command switch based on Lily version?

2009-03-22 Thread MonAmiPierrot


I need to write some music to be understood by Lilypond 2.10 but I want to
include some commands which are brand new in 2.12, in a manner that if  I
run 2.12 they are already present (and work). How can I tell Lilypond to
ignore a line if it's version is older, and viceversa?
It seems to be very simple...
thanks
H.

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Re: \fermata problems

2009-03-19 Thread MonAmiPierrot




MonAmiPierrot wrote:
> 
> -  But I can't have a \fermata work on a one-bar-long R rest (just a
> silent staff during the Soprano cadenza). If I put a r rest (by instance,
> a horrible r4. rest!) it works but it put the note align on the left...
> 
> 
Found this one: ^\fermataMarkup
Still no idea for second tweak.

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\fermata problems

2009-03-19 Thread MonAmiPierrot


I'm working on a cadenza. I need a fermata in all staffs, silent ones and the
playing one.
-  But I can't have a \fermata work on a one-bar-long R rest (just a silent
staff during the Soprano cadenza). If I put a r rest (by instance, a
horrible r4. rest!) it works but it put the note align on the left...
-  And I need a sort of phrasing slur for the cadenza which is ALSO a
Fermata: the curving line of the slur should have a dot just above. Any
idea?
thanks
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Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP

2009-03-19 Thread MonAmiPierrot




Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
> 
>> file was encoded in utf-8 so it couldn't work.
> 
> ???
> 
> 

It seems I'm an idiot...
everything is ok right now, without any "tweak". Thanks (and sorry) for your
time.

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Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP

2009-03-18 Thread MonAmiPierrot


SORRY

file was encoded in utf-8 so it couldn't work.
Now everything is "perfect"
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Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP

2009-03-18 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Sorry, this is the (readable) quoted message:



I can't have lilypond-book work in any way, even test environment

I tried to create this test.tex file in my c:\test directory:



\documentclass[]{article}

\begin{document}

Normal LaTeX text.

\begin{lilypond}
\relative c'' {
a4 b c d
}
\end{lilypond}

More LaTeX text.

\begin{lilypond}
\relative c'' {
d4 c b a
}
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}


---

Then I go like this:

C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.tex

with this result:

lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.2
Reading test.tex...
Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(c:/docume~1/tom/impost~1/temp/tmplzlwkb.tex
LaTeX2e <2005/12/01>
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang,
noh
yphenation, german, ngerman, german-x-2008-06-18, ngerman-x-2008-06-18,
spanish
, catalan, french, ancientgreek, italian, latin, portuguese, ukenglish,
loaded.



! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H   for immediate help.
 ...

l.3 ´
 ╗┐\documentclass[]{article}
("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\article.cls"
Document Class: article 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\size10.clo")
Overfull \hbox (20.0pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 3--284
[]
[1])
No file tmplzlwkb.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(tmplzlwkb.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on tmplzlwkb.dvi (1 page, 212 bytes).
Transcript written on tmplzlwkb.log.
command failed: latex c:\docume~1\tom\impost~1\temp\tmplzlwkb.tex
Child returned 1

---

So I tried the second way described in the docs, (lilypond-book test.tex)
but the output is the same.
Can someone tell me how to achieve a controlled lilypond-book test?
Thanks!



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Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP

2009-03-18 Thread MonAmiPierrot


I can't have lilypond-book work in any way, even test environment

I tried to create this test.tex file in my c:\test directory:



\documentclass[]{article}

\begin{document}

Normal LaTeX text.

\begin{lilypond}
\relative c'' {
a4 b c d
}
\end{lilypond}

More LaTeX text.

\begin{lilypond}
\relative c'' {
d4 c b a
}
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}


---

Then I go like this:

C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.tex

with this result:

lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.2
Reading test.tex...
Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(c:/docume~1/tom/impost~1/temp/tmplzlwkb.tex
LaTeX2e <2005/12/01>
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh
yphenation, german, ngerman, german-x-2008-06-18, ngerman-x-2008-06-18,
spanish
, catalan, french, ancientgreek, italian, latin, portuguese, ukenglish,
loaded.



! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H   for immediate help.
 ...

l.3 ´
 ╗┐\documentclass[]{article}
("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\article.cls"
Document Class: article 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\size10.clo")
Overfull \hbox (20.0pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 3--284
[]
[1])
No file tmplzlwkb.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(tmplzlwkb.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Output written on tmplzlwkb.dvi (1 page, 212 bytes).
Transcript written on tmplzlwkb.log.
command failed: latex c:\docume~1\tom\impost~1\temp\tmplzlwkb.tex
Child returned 1

---

So I tried the second way described in the docs, (lilypond-book test.tex)
but the output is the same.
Can someone tell me how to achieve a controlled lilypond-book test?
Thanks!





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Re: MIDI not played by LilypondTool

2009-03-17 Thread MonAmiPierrot


I already have everything updated.
No way to have my MIDI files played.
And I have another issue about reverse PDF point & click, but I will post it
in another place.
I don't know where to find this lilypond invoke.
Thanks anyway
Piero


Valentin Villenave wrote:
> 
> 2009/2/28 MonAmiPierrot :
>>
>> How can I tell LilypondTool to look for ".MID" files or, if I can't, how
>> can
>> I tell Lilypond to write a ".MIDI" file? thanks
> 
> Bonjour MonAmi, :)
> 
> you have two solutions:
> 
> add an argument to LilyPond invokation (I believe it's -dmidi-extension
> "midi")
> 
> upgrade your LilyPondTool version, since I think this bug has been
> addressed.
> 
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MIDI not played by LilypondTool

2009-02-28 Thread MonAmiPierrot


Hello, I'm using the latest versions of both Lilypond and LilypondTool (which
I find extremely useful) on WinXP sp3 with jEdit, but nowthe "play MIDI"
function doesn't work, and the player tells me "Error loading MIDI". The
reason could be it tries to load a ".MIDI" file and not a ".MID" one, which
is the one created: if I manually change the file extension, everything
work. The strange thing is that till some time ago it worked perfect and I
can't remember what I did wrong...
How can I tell LilypondTool to look for ".MID" files or, if I can't, how can
I tell Lilypond to write a ".MIDI" file? thanks



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Re: Combining parts

2009-01-21 Thread MonAmiPierrot




northofscotland wrote:
> 
> My problem is that when combining the top parts as separate voices, it
> looks rather messy and confusing.  I can combine two parts with
> \partcombine, and that does give a much better copy, but it still leaves
> the third part.  I know that \partcombine can only handle two parts, but
> has anyone any idea how three parts might similarly be combined?
> 
> 

I think I need the same thing: combining 2 *OR MORE* parts in one staff or
double staff.
I need this for orchestral music in order to produce a simplified output
such as "woodwinds" or "brass" staves instead of a dozen staves with 90% of
void measures each...
Couldn't tweak \partcombine but perhaps because I'm just a basic Lilypond
user.
Any idea?

Piero 

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Re: Fragment with broken/torn/shredded staff lines

2009-01-14 Thread MonAmiPierrot

Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> 
>> 1. I have some problem with your snippet and LyX...
> 
> I'll wait for more info.
> 
> 
> 

Ummm, I can't reproduce the error in some clean way: anyway, I found it's
not exclusive of your code, although it triggers it 100% of time, while
other .ly files only rarely. And it doesn't mean it can compile at all, 95%
of times it just trigger an error message but it compiles. Something weird
happen with LyX on-screen visualization too, but it need some serious
diagnostic and these days I don't have time, and in any case I think this is
at least a 50%-LyX-related issue, so don't worry! - just keep the code as
"beta".
Piero

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Re: Fragment with broken/torn/shredded staff lines

2009-01-11 Thread MonAmiPierrot

Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> 
> For the white boxes (no need to add an image, I 
> understand the problem), if you know the exact rgb
> color of your background, you could substitute
> that for white in the following line in the
> tearGeneric definition (quick-and-dirty for sure).
> 
> 

well, due to my bad english I explained myself wrong.
I don't have any problem with this: the "pale pink background" is the
standard LyX document work-view, doesn't affect final apperance, such as
some chesslike-white/black-squares working background  in some graphic
drawing program which just stand for "transparent" colour, so you can put
the output layer on every image/background without printing white. Thanks to
LyX I could see the "white blocks". I told you this just because it COULD BE
a problem for other users or with some code and because in some manner it is
a "dirty" way to do it (and we Lilypondian don't like dirty, do we?). So,
for future compatibility, I don't know how but you ought to cancel black,
not add white.
As for the double staff, thanks again.

, did we tell you "excellent job, Mark"?

Piero

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Re: Fragment with broken/torn/shredded staff lines

Mark Polesky wrote:
> 
> Mark Polesky wrote:
>> Here's my completed snippet. 
> 
> 
> 

3 issues.

1. I have some problem with your snippet and LyX, and only with your
snippet, not with other Lilypond files. I can't do a good diagnostic right
now because LyX behaviour is pretty strange and puzzling with your snippet.
Next time I'll add some details.

2. In common LyX document work-view, b&W images are displayed on the pale
pink colour of the plain document canvas, as normal text. Actually, the
white of a Lilypond image (as a pdf file, I guess) is transparent, so the
preview in LyX shows black on pale pink. But in this manner it shows your
\tear tweaks, which are in white. I'll add an image in next message. This
means that if I put your image above a coloured canvas, it will show the
tear with those little white blocks. This of course is not nice if we want
to print music on a image (well, this is quite uncommon to happen) but above
all it's not "clean" and could generate some unknown problems. I saw many
lilypond files in the LyX viewer (many of them with dozens of graphical
tweaks) and none of them showed this "white". Can you try to DELETE black,
rather than PAINT white? Could this be connected with Issue #1?

3. I tried to use your \tear in some double staff although I knew it wasn't
designed for it. It's behaviour is quite strange and iI had to add some "s4"
pause to have the \tear properly displayed, but this caused too much
unfilled staff, which is not so nice... We're waiting for next TWEAK!

Anyway, still an excellent job, and thank you very much.

Piero

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Re: How to produce a tiny example?

Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
> 
> 
> In Lyx go to Tools->Preferences->File Handling->Converters and add the 
> mentioned options to the different Lilypond converters. ( BTW: Is -b eps 
> the same as -dbackend=eps ? ). Then click on the "modify" button 
> "append" and "save". ( Maybe this is not all needed. )
> 
> 

yes, I'll try, but I don't like playing with converters etc. Things are
going so fast that it's possible LyX community will fix everything by its
own... It will be more interesting to implement lilypond-book in LyX.
LyX+lilypond-book=the ultimate software for musicology... but it's far
beyond my tweaking skills...
Take in consideration that I (and someone other) use several packages that
need some more pass, in addiction I use BibLaTeX which need as many as
latex+bibtex+latex... cycles as possible.
I mean: in LaTeX every complex package (nomenclature, indexes, bibtex
related, musixtex, lilypond) add something to the doc, and change doc
dimensions so you need to re-pass previous packages... the same thing happen
when you build a house: every specialized worker change something that
another specialized worker will have to fix and so on.
The good thing is that you don't pay packages;-), you just need to know how
to call them properly, and in LyX this could be a knightmare. In my final
thesis I think it's not so difficoult that those passes could be 100+.
thanks anyway, I'm lucky there are guys like you & the others out there!

Piero

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Re: How to produce a tiny example?




Patrick McCarty-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> #(ly:set-option 'backend 'eps)
> #(ly:set-option 'gs-load-fonts #f)
> #(ly:set-option 'include-eps-fonts #t)
> 
> You can use ly:set-option for any of the -d options.
> 
> 
> 
that's useful, but I think I'll made it with Graham's (well, the docs')
trick
thanks



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Graham Percival-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> AU 4.6 Inserting LilyPond output into other programs
> 
> 

AARRRGGHHH!!! That's pretty unbelievable I never hit on this!!!
Thanks, Graham, it works P E R F E C T (almost)



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Re: How to produce a tiny example?

Jonathan Kulp-2 wrote:
> 
>  I have it working beautifully with BibTeX for the 
> bibliography, too.  ...  and it's very easy 
> just to use a text editor instead.
> 

Thanks, but I use BibLaTeX, which is a complex package which create perfect
bibliographies. I don't want to be unpolite, but it stands to BibTeX as
Lilypond stands to pen & ink. But is quite tricky to have it use under LyX.
Why LyX? Because it will be the de facto standard for LaTeX users,
expecially for humanities. As for the LaTeX code... Yes, as all Latex users,
I don't want WYSIWYG, just WYSIWIM (Mean), and all those "%", "&" "\" are
definitely not what I mean. In LyX you exactly MEAN what you see.
But don't get me wrong: I know lilypond-book is very powerful. But I'm
waiting for it to be implemented in LyX. Meanwhile, I want all my examples
being compiled and inserted on-the-fly, just as lilypond-book would do, with
some more effort in shrinking, cutting etc. If only I could CLIP white
space
Thanks again, anyway
Piero

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Graham Percival-3 wrote:
> 
> 
> NR 3.4.1 Extracting fragments of music
>   and maybe
> AU 4.6 Inserting LilyPond output into other programs
> 
> 
Are you pointing to some docs?

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Re: How to produce a tiny example?




Damian leGassick wrote:
> 
> dear MAP
> 
> (also doing my phD with LyX)
> 
> in the terminal (well, actually in textmate...) i do:
> 
> lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts  
> filename.ly
> 
> which generates a clipped eps and pdf file which i then import into lyx
> 
Seems what I need, but I don't want to manually process it and then import
the image. I want it perfectly clean: only the .ly files.
Is there a way to add some code in the .ly file just to tell him to be
treated in that manner?
Or, is there a way to tell Lilypond to act like this by default? (Cause it
seems difficoult to tell LyX to launch Lilypond with those options, isn't
it?)
Thanks.
Piero

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Re: How to produce a tiny example?




Damian leGassick wrote:
> 
> dear MAP
> 
> (also doing my phD with LyX)
> 
> in the terminal (well, actually in textmate...) i do:
> 
> lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts  
> filename.ly
> 
> which generates a clipped eps and pdf file which i then import into lyx
> 
Seems what I need, but I don't want to manually process it and then import
the image. I want it perfectly clean: only the .ly files.
Is there a way to add some code in the .ly file just to tell him to be
treated in that manner?
Or, is there a way to tell Lilypond to act like this by default? (Cause it
seems difficoult to tell LyX to launch Lilypond with those options, isn't
it?)
Thanks.
Piero

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Sezione musicologia
Università di Ferrara 

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- LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef
- MikTex
- LaTeX class: Koma book
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Re: How to produce a tiny example?


Thanks John, but my programming skills are not above Lilypond users
average...
thanks anyway.
Piero


Jonathan Kulp-2 wrote:
> 
> MonAmiPierrot wrote:
>> Hello, I need to use several example (90% are tiny fragments) of music,
>> many
>> times just 2 or 3 measures of some melody with words for my musicological
>> thesis.
>> I'ma latex user and I DON'T want to use lilypond-book, because it's too
>> difficoult to implement in LyX 1.6.1 (the editor I use) if one uses some
>> complex external-pass packages such for example BibLaTeX.
>> Anyway, I can bypass the use of lilypond-book by using normal lilypond.
>> And
>> here come my question:
>> 
>> I can insert a Lilypond file in my LyX document, but it get it "as it is"
>> and paste it in the page. That means it will be as big as a page.
>> One solution would be to play with page and music dimensions and then
>> zoom
>> in/out the image in the document, but this is the dirty way.
>> The best solution is that Lilypond could produce a pdf or ps file that is
>> already clipped of all white space, left, right, top and bottom.
>> I found an old post where someone explain how to have the vertical space
>> clipped with this trick:
>> 
>> \header{ 
>> copyright = "" 
>> tagline = ""}
>> 
>> as well as
>> \paper{ragged-right=##t}
>> (or ragged-last=##t if the excerpt is longer than 1 line) 
>> 
>> but left and right space is still present and depends on the page size
>> used
>> by Lilypond.
>> 
>> Is there a way to have Lilypond CLIP all blank space around and produce a
>> pdf or ps file of the same size of the music written?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> -
>> Piero Faustini, PhD student
>> Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche
>> Sezione musicologia
>> Università di Ferrara 
>> 
>> Software used:
>> - LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef
>> - MikTex
>> - LaTeX class: Koma book
>> - Lilypond and MusixTeX for example excerpts
>> - BibLaTeX for bibliographies 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Patrick Horgan and I wrote a program (actually a long shell script) that 
> does exactly what you want, but it only works on Linux and Mac so far. 
> Depending on your computer skills, you might be able to make it work on 
> Windows using Cygwin--I've experimented a bit with this but I'm terrible 
> on Windows and don't have the time to fiddle with it.  I'm attaching the 
> script for you in case you want to try it out.  The main dependency is 
> the netbpm suite of image manipulation tools, which is available freely 
> for Windows.
> 
> Alternatively you could make a Linux partition or a Wubi Linux 
> installation on your XP machine and run the program while booted into 
> Linux.  Best of luck :)
> 
> Jon
> -- 
> Jonathan Kulp
> http://www.jonathankulp.com
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> #**#
> # Script for making image files from lilypond source suitable for use as  
> #
> # musical examples to insert in a document or web page.   
>#
> # Creator - Jonathan Kulp#
> # Scripting Guru  - Patrick Horgan   #
> #**#
> # Change log
> #
> # 1.2 Added loop to image conversion to accommodate lilypond files
> that 
> # have more than one page. It loops until it has converted each of
> the 
> # png files output by Lilypond.  
> # 1.1.1.12  Added final exit 0 status at end of file; updated manpage
> # 1.1.1.11  Added jpg=jpeg, tif=tiff when values set at command line;
> added
> # echoes of netpbm activity and echoes at end of process.
> # 1.1.1.10  -V implies -p ph
> # 1.1.1.9   Added range check to getnumval ph
> # 1.1.1.8   -p flag is now necessary for preview--image is not opened in 
> # viewer by default. jk
> # Quiet mode is really quiet as long as sufficient parameters are
> # set at command line for process to succeed. jk
> # 1.1.1.7   Added -p flag: allows forced preview even in quiet mode. jk
> #   Made quiet mode more quiet. jk
> # 1.1.1.6   Changed the call to Lilypond on OSX by defining $PATH
> # early in the script. Changed Patrick's "Johnny Come Lately" to
> # "Major Contributor" :) and added a few echoes when formats,
> # resolutions, and so forth are set. We could remove these if you 
> # they're t

How to produce a tiny example?


Hello, I need to use several example (90% are tiny fragments) of music, many
times just 2 or 3 measures of some melody with words for my musicological
thesis.
I'ma latex user and I DON'T want to use lilypond-book, because it's too
difficoult to implement in LyX 1.6.1 (the editor I use) if one uses some
complex external-pass packages such for example BibLaTeX.
Anyway, I can bypass the use of lilypond-book by using normal lilypond. And
here come my question:

I can insert a Lilypond file in my LyX document, but it get it "as it is"
and paste it in the page. That means it will be as big as a page.
One solution would be to play with page and music dimensions and then zoom
in/out the image in the document, but this is the dirty way.
The best solution is that Lilypond could produce a pdf or ps file that is
already clipped of all white space, left, right, top and bottom.
I found an old post where someone explain how to have the vertical space
clipped with this trick:

\header{
copyright = "" 
tagline = ""}

as well as
\paper{ragged-right=##t}
(or ragged-last=##t if the excerpt is longer than 1 line) 

but left and right space is still present and depends on the page size used
by Lilypond.

Is there a way to have Lilypond CLIP all blank space around and produce a
pdf or ps file of the same size of the music written?
Thanks

-
Piero Faustini, PhD student
Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche
Sezione musicologia
Università di Ferrara 

Software used:
- LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef
- MikTex
- LaTeX class: Koma book
- Lilypond and MusixTeX for example excerpts
- BibLaTeX for bibliographies 


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