Re: Basic LilyPond Cheat Sheet
On 09/12/2011 04:19 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > ... elision by patrick... > I can't print it from Adobe Reader on Ubuntu either. I also opened it > in the default PDF document viewer that comes with Ubuntu (Evince), > and in that, most of the text just displays as blocks of various sizes > and shades - see attached screen dump of part of the page. That's strange! I just looked at it in evince 2.32.0 on Ubuntu 11.04 and it was beautiful. evince DID give 105 errors on the file, I'm attaching them. okular gave only 75 of the same errors, e.g. "Error (294822): Dictionary key must be a name object". Running evince again gave 90 of the similar errors. acroread also showed it well. Printing: acroread - popup saying "The document could not be printed" evince - printed without error* okular - printed without error* * other than the errors mentioned above which don't seem to interfere with the rendering Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New LilyPond tutorial
Just a web page design sort of comment. The font is quite small for older eyes like mine (mid 50s;). The line spacing is really tight as well. I can scale the font up, but the pages still don't breathe. It would be a lot more approachable if you didn't try to make everything fit in such a tight space. A tutorial is no different than music in that. More whitespace makes it easier to absorb things at a glance. It looks like you're going for a default width of about 800 pixels (840 with the 20 pixel margins on the sides). That's about as tight as you can get it with the png sizes for the music. Since your page won't work well with hand-held devices anyway, why do you make your width so narrow? Laptops and tablets all work with a lot more width. The IPad for example is 1024x768. It just makes you waste all that space on the sides to go with that 800 pixel width. You could go with a wider width, bigger font, bigger line spacing and a, things would breathe. The tutorial itself is marvelous. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: creating images for web pages
There's also lily2image. $ lily2image Usage: lily2image [-v] [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename -v print version number and quit -aabout - tell about us and exit -tset background to transparent -r=Nset resolution to N (usually 72-2000) -f=FORMATset format to FORMAT one of: jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp . . . -V=viewerset image viewer, examp: -V=evince filenamea lilypond file -qquiet mode - no echoes, error code on exit -pshow created image in a viewer Created by Jonathan Kulp on this list. It's a bash script that automates a lot of the choices you might make. Making the png transparent is nice for web pages. It's at http://code.google.com/p/lily2image/ Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [tablatures] Re: Could I get a critique on my first lilypond tab?
On 04/23/2011 02:50 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il giorno sab, 23/04/2011 alle 02.36 -0700, Patrick Horgan ha scritto: >> I figured it out. It was the Text_engraver I needed. So I'm >> attaching >> a new version that has H in the appropriate place. Please let me know >> if there are better/more elegant ways of doing the things I do here. > New version? It looks like the previous file :-) I added the Text_engraver to the TabStaff, so now the "H"s show up. That's the only change, but the output suddenly became closer to what I want, although I'd really rather have the "H"s show up above the slurs. > BTW, I don't think that you are allowed to post copyrighted music on a > public list. Well, in the US every written work by anyone is copyright upon creation. If you were right, nothing could be posted, not even this email. I get your point though, I imagine you're saying that posting (publishing), work that transcribes work that I don't own the copyright to without the permission of the owner of the original copyright opens me to the owners assertion that his rights have been violated.I love watching copyright rules change through the years, but I'm not a lawyer. I have separately and previously contacted his management company to see what they think of me sharing the tab online along with the tabs of dozens of other songs of his out there, but I haven't heard anything back from them yet. I'll be sure to let the group know. > Cheers, > Federico Best regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Could I get a critique on my first lilypond tab?
On 04/23/2011 02:03 AM, Patrick Horgan wrote:
> ...elision by Patrick...
> You'll see my attempt to put H at appropriate places doesn't work.
> Apparently a TabStaff is missing whatever engraver would put them in? I
> can put them in the regular staff, and it works, tucking them under the
> Chords, but it's not at all what I want. Help!!!;)
I figured it out. It was the Text_engraver I needed. So I'm attaching
a new version that has H in the appropriate place. Please let me know
if there are better/more elegant ways of doing the things I do here.
Patrick
\version "2.13.45"
\header {
title = "Let Him Roll"
subtitle = "by Guy Clark"
subsubtitle = "tablature by Patrick Horgan"
copyright = "Copyright Guy Clark"
}
\layout {
indent = 0.0
}
hammersNpulls = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceThree
\stemUp
s1 s1 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4
s1 s1^"H" s1 s1
s1 s1 s1 s1
s1 s1^"H" s1 s1
}
thechords = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceThree
\stemUp
s1^"C" s2 s2^"Cadd9" s1^"Fmaj13" s1
s1^"Em7/G" s1^"G7" s2^"Cadd9" s2^"C" s1
s1^"C" s2 s2^"Cadd9" s1^"Fmaj13" s1
s1^"Em7/G" s1 s2^"Cadd9" s2^"C" s1
}
upper = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceOne
\stemUp
< c' g' >2. 4 | 4. g8 e' d c g( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d g,( | a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
d4. r8 d e ~ e4 | \appoggiatura e8 4. 8 ~ 8 g,4. |
d'2 r8 c ~ c g | r8 b ~ b4 e f |
% repeat with variations
< c g' >2. 4 | 4. g8 e' d ~ d4 |
d2 r4 | a8 d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
d4. r8 d e ~ e4 | \appoggiatura e8 4. 8 ~ 8 g,4. |
d'2 r8 c ~ c g | r8 b ~ b4 e f |
\bar ":|"
}
lower = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceTwo
\stemDown
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f f f f | f f f f| \break
g, d' g, d' | g, d' g, d' | c e c e | g, d' g, b | \break
% repeat with variations
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f a c,2 | f4 f f f | \break
g, d' g, d' | g, d' g, d' | c e c e | g, d' g, b |
}
\score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "tab with traditional" <<
\new Staff = "guitar traditional" <<
\clef "treble_8"
\context Voice = "theChords" \thechords % Put chord names in
\context Voice = "upper" \upper
\context Voice = "lower" \lower
>> % regular staff
\new TabStaff \with { \consists "Text_engraver" } <<
\context TabVoice = "hammersNpulls" \hammersNpulls
\context TabVoice = "upper" { \tabFullNotation \upper }
\context TabVoice = "lower" { \tabFullNotation \lower }
>> % tab staff
>> % staff group
>> % score
}
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Could I get a critique on my first lilypond tab?
Anything anyone wants to tell me about better slicker more elegant ways
of doing the same things would be awesome.
I'm attaching the lilypond file for Let Him Roll, a Guy Clark talking
blues. He essential plays the same thing over and over. What I've got
covers the main two variations.
I couldn't find anything that covered hammering and pulling with H and P
either under or over the tab or on the slur line, so just followed the
suggestion to use an appoggiatura for a hammer for something that
switched notes on the beat, and a grace notey sort of thing for a quick
hammer that just borrowed a bit from the beginning of the note for the
original note before the hammer.
I'm not sure how you would know the difference between a hammer and a pull.
You'll see my attempt to put H at appropriate places doesn't work.
Apparently a TabStaff is missing whatever engraver would put them in? I
can put them in the regular staff, and it works, tucking them under the
Chords, but it's not at all what I want. Help!!!;)
Patrick
\version "2.13.45"
\header {
title = "Let Him Roll"
subtitle = "by Guy Clark"
subsubtitle = "tablature by Patrick Horgan"
copyright = "Copyright Guy Clark"
}
\layout {
indent = 0.0
}
hammersNpulls = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceThree
\stemUp
s1 s1 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4 s8^"H" s8 s4
s1 s1^"H" s1 s1
s1 s1 s1 s1
s1 s1^"H" s1 s1
}
thechords = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceThree
\stemUp
s1^"C" s2 s2^"Cadd9" s1^"Fmaj13" s1
s1^"Em7/G" s1^"G7" s2^"Cadd9" s2^"C" s1
s1^"C" s2 s2^"Cadd9" s1^"Fmaj13" s1
s1^"Em7/G" s1 s2^"Cadd9" s2^"C" s1
}
upper = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceOne
\stemUp
< c' g' >2. 4 | 4. g8 e' d c g( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d g,( | a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
d4. r8 d e ~ e4 | \appoggiatura e8 4. 8 ~ 8 g,4. |
d'2 r8 c ~ c g | r8 b ~ b4 e f |
% repeat with variations
< c g' >2. 4 | 4. g8 e' d ~ d4 |
d2 r4 | a8 d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
d4. r8 d e ~ e4 | \appoggiatura e8 4. 8 ~ 8 g,4. |
d'2 r8 c ~ c g | r8 b ~ b4 e f |
\bar ":|"
}
lower = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceTwo
\stemDown
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f f f f | f f f f| \break
g, d' g, d' | g, d' g, d' | c e c e | g, d' g, b | \break
% repeat with variations
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f a c,2 | f4 f f f | \break
g, d' g, d' | g, d' g, d' | c e c e | g, d' g, b |
}
\score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "tab with traditional" <<
\new Staff = "guitar traditional" <<
\clef "treble_8"
\context Voice = "theChords" \thechords % Put chord names in
\context Voice = "upper" \upper
\context Voice = "lower" \lower
>> % regular staff
\new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
\context TabVoice = "hammersNpulls" { \tabFullNotation \hammersNpulls }
\context TabVoice = "upper" { \tabFullNotation \upper }
\context TabVoice = "lower" { \tabFullNotation \lower }
>> % guitar tab
>> % staff group
>> % score
}
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Re: How can I get my second tab voice to have stems!
On 04/20/2011 02:55 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote:
> \new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
> \new TabVoice = "upper" { \tabFullNotation \upper }
> \new TabVoice = "lower" { \tabFullNotation \lower }
> >>
Thank you. This also works:
\new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
\context TabVoice = "upper" { \tabFullNotation \upper }
\context TabVoice = "lower" { \tabFullNotation \lower }
>>
Once again I'm reading about context and trying to understand. I'm a
C/C++ guy and I guess it would make more sense to me if I understood the
data structures. I understand that the \context will do the \new if
required. Do they both create a named context exactly the same?
Patrick
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How can I get my second tab voice to have stems!
Using GNU LilyPond 2.13.45, with this source there's no stems for the
quarter notes in the bottom voice in the tab staff. I'm attaching a png
that shows the problem. (I turned off the footer so the png would be
small instead of being a whole page.)
\version "2.13.45"
\paper {
oddFooterMarkup = #f
}
tagline = \markup { \center-column { "" "" "This is my tagline" } }
upper = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceOne
\stemUp
< c' g' >2. 4 |
4. g8 e' d c g( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d g,( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
}
lower = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceTwo
\stemDown
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f f f f | f f f f |
}
\score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "tab with traditional" <<
\new Staff = "guitar traditional" <<
\clef "treble_8"
\context Voice = "upper" \upper
\context Voice = "lower" \lower
>>
\new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
\tabFullNotation
\context TabVoice = "upper" \upper
\context TabVoice = "lower" \lower
>>
>>
>>
}
<>\version "2.13.45"
\paper {
oddFooterMarkup = #f
}
tagline = \markup { \center-column { "" "" "This is my tagline" } }
upper = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceOne
\stemUp
< c' g' >2. 4 |
4. g8 e' d c g( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d g,( |
a) d ~ d g,( a) d ~ d4 |
}
lower = \relative c {
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\voiceTwo
\stemDown
c4 e g, r | c e c e | f f f f | f f f f |
}
\score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "tab with traditional" <<
\new Staff = "guitar traditional" <<
\clef "treble_8"
\context Voice = "upper" \upper
\context Voice = "lower" \lower
>>
\new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
\tabFullNotation
\context TabVoice = "upper" \upper
\context TabVoice = "lower" \lower
>>
>>
>>
}
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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music
On 03/17/2011 07:15 AM, Marc Mouries wrote: This is intellectually interesting but the question is not "who deserves to create good music?" but rather "who wants to listen to music made by someone that does not practice?" and who wants to listen to music played by a computer? Sure many times, nowadays, the rendition of a computer playing is quite good but who cares? Art conveys emotions which are the one thing that make us human and thus should be played by human. What's the end goal of such system? Can you describe in what is that helpful? Are we one day going to only listen to robots playing music? Where *will* the limits be, or where *should* the limits be? Yes very good question. One thing that comes to mind is that I don't want to arrive at a point where musician will be teaching computers to play instead of learning to play themselves. We're long past that point. Many many pop and rock and hip hop keyboardists can't really play, i.e. if you asked them to play some sheet music or reproduce a particular song, they couldn't do it, but they can program loops and effects and assign them to keys and produce some excellent music. Their instrument is the programming and their creativity and imagination. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English
On 02/02/2011 03:30 AM, Ralph Palmer wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Patrick Horgan <mailto:phorg...@yahoo.com>> wrote: I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo indications are (a selection): Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate, Plaintive, Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow, Slow and distinctly, Slow and mournful, Slow and tenderly, Slow and with feeling, Slow with expression, Slow and feeling, Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With animation, With expression, With feeling, With spirit What do you do with that? I can find tables of usual tempo ranges for italian tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with these. I'd like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would be about as fast as the tune would usually be played in an Irish pub. Does anyone have any ideas? Patrick Greetings, Patrick - The tempo indications are just what they say. There's a lot of variation in tempo for the same tune at various sessions.This may not be a lot of help, but I would suggest three possibilities: 1) play the midi at a default or provisional tempo, decide whether it sounds right to you, then modify the tempo accordingly; But I don't know the repertoire so I don't know what sounds right. 2) get a metronome with a beat input button, play or hum the tune the way you think it should go, then tap the metronome button at that pace to find the tempo; or Again, I don't know the repertoire. 3) find a recording or an Irish session musician who will play the tune for you, and determine that tempo. I've tried with some of that with youtube. Still not helpful for most, cause I can't find them. No hard and fast rules, I'm afraid. I'd like to see the results when you're done. Incidentally, if you didn't know, all the O'Neill's tunes have been transcribed using ABC format and are freely available. Some of them may give tempos; I don't know. If you want to check them out, go to http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind <http://trillian.mit.edu/%7Ejc/cgi/abc/tunefind> enter the tune name, and you can check out the ABC source file, a .jpg, a .png, and other formats. Yeah, I know that site. They mention the same problem and that most of the files don't have any real tempo indications so the midi files are often at weird speeds. There will be *multiple* hits for each tune. If you want the O'Neill's, it will be identified by a number (I can't remember what the number is) all the way to the left of the entry. Thank you, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English
On 02/02/2011 06:43 AM, Michael Ellis wrote: Hi Patrick, Short of conducting extensive field research in Ireland's pubs, you might try asking the question here. http://www.thesession.org/discussions/ Cheers, Mike What a treasure. Thank you mike. It lead me to http://www.itma.ie/English/Introduction.html. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do you tell tempo for indications in English
On 02/02/2011 03:59 AM, James Lowe wrote: ... elision by patrick ... I don’t think there is such a thing a 'authentic' tempo range if you are referring to setting crotchet/quaver/minim tempo speeds. What you are asking, it seems is, 'what speed is 'cheerful''? Which doesn't makes much sense. I expect it was simply played 'cheerfully' and that would depend on who was doing the playing. Also can you be sure that the same tune played in one 'Irish pub' is any different from a 'non-Irish pub' or that other 'Irish pub' down the road? The music is probably played as fast or slow as the musicians play it and that can depend on how many times they have played together, the smell of the crowd or simply the number of pints of the 'black stuff' they have put away before/during the gig. ;) 110201-63 Sorry if that sounds a bit flippant, but I am not sure what kind of answer you are going to get other than someone else's guestimation of which you could do yourself. Tempo in terms of words (rather than beat numbers) is more about feeling than speed. So what you're saying is that you really don't know. Still, there must be a normal range for a fast jig for example. If you don't know it's ok, but hopefully someone will know. I don't know the repertoire, but I want to, (on guitar), and it would be helpful to know if I'm learning something at half the speed most would play it, or conversely at twice the speed. I'm not looking for anything exact, but it would be nice to be in the ballpark rather than down the street. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How do you tell tempo for indications in English
I'm setting some of O'Neill's Irish tunes, and the tempo indications are (a selection): Animated, Boldly, Cheerful, Cheerfully, Gaily, Gracefully, Moderate, Plaintive, Plaintively, Playful, Playfully, Rather slow, Slow, Slow and distinctly, Slow and mournful, Slow and tenderly, Slow and with feeling, Slow with expression, Slow and feeling, Spirited, Tenderly, Very slow, With animation, With expression, With feeling, With spirit What do you do with that? I can find tables of usual tempo ranges for italian tempo indications, but I have no idea what to do with these. I'd like them to be authentic, in that the midi file would be about as fast as the tune would usually be played in an Irish pub. Does anyone have any ideas? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: exercise notation
On 01/25/2011 12:25 PM, lilyp...@josebreden.nl wrote:
Hello,
Singing in a coral I would like to exercise the different parts
(soprano, alto, bass).
So I would like to generate from a single .ly-file, multiple midi-files:
- all parts together (which is allready working)
- only soprano part
- only alto part
- only bass part
With a small kind of switch.
Sorry I don't know how to do it with a switch, but I've attached
something that does something similar, it just does it all at once.
From one lilypond source, O_Magnum_Mysterium.ly, it generates:
O_Magnum_Mysterium-soprano.pdf
O_Magnum_Mysterium-soprano.midi
O_Magnum_Mysterium-alto.pdf
O_Magnum_Mysterium-alto.midi
O_Magnum_Mysterium-tenor.pdf
O_Magnum_Mysterium-tenor.midi
O_Magnum_Mysterium-bass.pdf
O_Magnum_Mysterium-bass.midi
O_Magnum_Mysterium-choir.pdf
O_Magnum_Mysterium-choir.midi
O_Magnum_Mysterium-piano-reduction.pdf
Maybe it will give you an idea.
Patrick
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\header {
filename ="o_magnum_mysterium.ly"
title = "O Magnum Mysterium"
poet ="from Matins of Christmas"
subtitle = "for mixed chorus, a cappella"
instrument = "Four Part Voice"
opus =""
composer ="Tomás Luis de Victoria (1549-1611)"
date = "1572"
mutopiatitle = "O Magnum Mysterium"
mutopiacomposer = "VictoriaTLd"
mutopiapoet = "from Matins of Christmas"
mutopiainstrument = "Voice"
source = "Arista Edition"
style = "Renaissance"
copyright = "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0"
typesetter = "Jeff Covey & Patrick Horgan"
maintainer = "Jeff Covey & Patrick Horgan"
maintainerEmail = "jeff.covey at pobox dot com & patrick at dbp-consulting dot com"
maintainerWeb = "http://jeffcovey.net/";
% brought up to 2.11.49 and minor edits by patr...@dbp-consulting.com
% put 2.10.33 in as version just because 2.11 is development and not out yet.
lastupdated = "2008/06/30"
footer = "Mutopia-2008/06/30-244"
tagline = \markup {
\override #'(box-padding . 1.0)
\override #'(baseline-skip . 2.7)
\box \center-align {
\small \line {
Sheet music from \with-url #"http://www.MutopiaProject.org"; \line {
\teeny www. \hspace #-1.0 MutopiaProject \hspace #-1.0 \teeny .org
\hspace #0.5
}
ââ¬Â¢ \hspace #0.5
\italic Free to download, with the \italic freedom to distribute, modify and perform.
}
\line {
\small \line {
Typeset using \with-url #"http://www.LilyPond.org"; \line {
\teeny www. \hspace #-1.0 LilyPond \hspace #-1.0 \teeny .org
} by \typesetter \hspace #-1.0 . \hspace #0.5 Reference: \footer
}
}
\line {
\teeny \line {
This sheet music has been placed in the public domain by the typesetter,
for details see: \hspace #-0.5
\with-url #"http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain";
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain
}
}
}
}
}
%{ thanks to jcn for all the help on this one! :) %}
\version "2.11.49"
global = {
\transpose f e
\key f \minor
\tempo 4 = 110
\time 4/4
\compressFullBarRests
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 3
\skip 1*39 \bar "||"
\skip 1*13 \bar "||" \time 3/4
\skip 2.*14 \bar "||" \time 4/4
\skip 1*8 \bar "|."
}
sopranoMelody = \relative c'' {
\clef "violin"
c1 f,2 c' ~ c4 c des des c2 r4
f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des c ~
( c8[ bes aes g aes bes c aes] bes[ aes] aes[ g16 f] g2 ~ g ) f
% 10
a1 bes2 a4. ( bes8 c4 )
des4. ( c8 bes4 ~ bes a ) bes ( aes8 [ g ] f4 ) g aes2
% 15
r4 f' des ees f4. f8 f4 des bes c des4. des8 des4 c4. bes8 bes4 ( ~ bes a ) bes2
% 20
r1 r4 des4 c4. a8 bes4 c des bes des4. des8 des4 des c2 c
% 25
a4 c c4. c8 c4 d ees2 des?4 ( c8[ bes ] c2 des ) c r1
% 30
r4 f, bes2 aes4 f g ( a ) bes4. ( c8 des!4 ) des c2 r r1
% 35
r4 bes ees2 des4 bes c d ees4. ( des8 [ c bes ] bes4 ~
bes a8 [ g ] a4 ) a bes2 r
% 40
a2. a4 a2 bes a4. ( bes8 c4 des ~ des8 [ c ] c4. bes8 bes4 )
c a2 a4 bes4. bes8 bes2
% 46
r4 bes4. ( c8 [ des bes ] c4 ) f ees2 des4 f ees c
des4. ( c8 [ bes aes ] aes [ g16 f ]
% 50
g4 ) g f c' ~ c aes2 des4 ( ~ des8 [ c ] bes2 a4 )
% 53 3/4 time starts here
bes2 des4 c2 a4 bes4. aes?8 ( [ bes c] ) des4 c2
des2 bes4 aes2 f4 g4. f8 ( [ g aes] )
% 60
bes2 a4 bes2. r4 r ees des4. ( c8 [ des bes ]
c4 ) aes8 ( [ bes c des ] ) ees2 ees4 des4 f2
% 67 back to 4/4 time
f1 r4 f f8 ( [ ees des c ] bes4 ) ees4. ( des8 [ c bes ]
a4 bes2 a4 ) bes1 ~ bes ~ bes ~ bes
}
altoMelody = \relative c' {
\clef "violin"
r1 r2 f2 ~ f bes, f'2. f4 ges ges f2 r4
f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des f2 ( e8 [ d ] e2 ) f
% 10
f1 f2 f4. ( g8
Re: Complex time signature
Someone mentioned this format and I had the files laying around from
when they came through the list before. I didn't keep track of who
wrote them.
compound-test.png
\version "2.11.62"
compoundTimeSignature = #(define-music-function
(parser layout timesig compound) (list? list?)
#{
% graphical display
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'Y-offset = #3
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = #(markup
;; parenthetical display of compound-ness
#:column(
#:small #:line(
#:concat ( "("
;; list the additive portions of the time signature,
;; adding "+" between items.
(make-line-markup (list-insert-separator
(map (lambda (n)
(markup (number->string n)))
$compound)
(markup "+")))
")"
))
#:override '(baseline-skip . 0)
;; main time signature display
(#:number #:line(
#:column(
(number->string (car $timesig))
(number->string (cadr $timesig)))
% measure length + beaming
\set Timing.timeSignatureFraction = #(cons (car $timesig) (cadr $timesig))
\set Timing.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 (cadr $timesig) 0 1)
\set Timing.beatGrouping = $compound
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment (car $timesig) (cadr $timesig) 0 1)
#})
\version "2.11.62"
\include "compound.ly"
\relative c' {
\compoundTimeSignature #'(5 8) #'(3 2)
c8 d16 d e e fis fis gis gis
\compoundTimeSignature #'(5 8) #'(2 3)
c,8 d16 d e e fis fis gis gis
\compoundTimeSignature #'(5 4) #'(2 3)
c,8 c d d e e f f g g
\compoundTimeSignature #'(5 4) #'(3 2)
c,8 c d d e e f f g g
\compoundTimeSignature #'(8 8) #'(3 3 2)
a8 a a e' e e c c
\compoundTimeSignature #'(7 8) #'(2 2 3)
a a b b cis cis cis
\time 4/4
a a b b cis cis d d
}
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Re: ottava bassa
On 01/12/2011 07:42 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: - Original Message - From: > If you modify that function in scm/define-music-callbacks.scm to 'Voice > instead of 'Staff, then \ottava only applies to the current voice (which > is, > however, probably now what we want by default). i guess you meant that this is *not* what we want? it really isn't? i mean, if you instantiate two voices and put the \ottava indication only in one, i guess you only want the octave change only in that voice. not uncommon in piano music, among other cases. The problem with this approach is: if you want the ottavation to apply to the staff, which is common, would you need to set it in each voice? And then you'd need to detect that it had already been set and not typeset it. Isn't that frustrating. We know that this situation (a voice or a section of voice that is written an octave differently than played) occurs in written notation, not commonly, but not infrequently, and that it wasn't in the mind of the person who first wrote this part of lilypond. Has someone written a bug for this? Sounds like it will be a bit of work to get it right. Would it be possible to have two functions, one for voice ottava and one for staff ottava? i.e. if you copy the 17 lines of make-ottava-set and change the function name to make-voice-ottava-set and the 'Staff to 'Voice, does that solve the problem, or will there be conflicts in the offing? I would guess that you'd either want to use one or the other, I can't think of times that they'd both be in the offing. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bug in 2.13.44-1?
On 01/04/2011 06:47 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:
Just another data point, it compiles fine for my on a recent git pull
from trunk on ubuntu Natty Narwhal.
Patrick
\version "2.12.2"
#(ly:set-option 'delete-intermediate-files #t)
\paper {
indent = 0.0
ragged-last = ##f
}
\header {
title = "Finn McCool"
subtitle = "Concert Instruments"
composer = "McNamara"
meter = "Swing Ballad"
copyright = "Tim McNamara 2010, All Rights Reserved"
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r8
% 1
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
bes2:min7 ges2:7
des1:maj7
% 5
bes2:min7 ges2:7
bes2:min7 ees2:7
ees2:min7 aes2:7
des1:maj7
% 9
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
% 13
ces1:min6
ges1:maj7
aes1:7
des1:maj7
}
melody = \relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'()
\time 4/4
\clef treble
\key des\major
% 1
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 5
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 9
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
% 13
r1
r1
r1
r1 \break
\bar ":|"
}
\score
{
<<
\new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
}
\new Staff \melody
>>
}
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Re: Can't build local docs with current git pull
On 01/01/2011 07:46 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/31/10 11:43 PM, "Patrick Horgan" wrote: Is this a known thing or should I look at it? Please look at it. It's not a known bug. Thanks, Carl You're welcome, first, is this an issue, or can I ignore it? langdefs.py: warning: lilypond-doc gettext domain not found. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Can't build local docs with current git pull
Did git pull, make dist-clean, make all, make install, all completed
fine. Then make doc results in:
Renaming input to: `tablature-fretboard-open-string.ly']
Interpreting music...
[/usr/local/lilypond/out/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/emmentaler-20.otf]Segmentation
fault (core dumped)
command failed: /usr/local/lilypond/out/bin/lilypond -I ./ -I ./out-www
-I ../../input -I /usr/local/lilypond/Documentation -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/snippets -I ../../input/regression/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/included/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/mf/out/ -I /usr/local/lilypond/mf/out/ -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures -I
/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures/./out-www -dbackend=eps
--formats=ps,png,pdf -dinclude-eps-fonts -dgs-load-fonts
--header=doctitle --header=doctitlede --header=doctitlees
--header=doctitlefr --header=doctitlehu --header=doctitleit
--header=doctitleja --header=doctitlenl --header=texidoc
--header=texidocde --header=texidoces --header=texidocfr
--header=texidochu --header=texidocit --header=texidocja
--header=texidocnl -dcheck-internal-types -ddump-signatures
-danti-alias-factor=2 -I "/usr/local/lilypond/out/lybook-db" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression/out-www" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/input" -I "/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation"
-I "/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/snippets" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/input/regression" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/included" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/mf/out" -I "/usr/local/lilypond/mf/out" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures" -I
"/usr/local/lilypond/Documentation/pictures/out-www" --formats=eps
--verbose -deps-box-padding=3.00 -dread-file-list
-dno-strip-output-dir "
seg fault was here (at grob-property.cc:115)
110
111void
112Grob::internal_set_property (SCM sym, SCM v)
113{
114 internal_set_value_on_alist (&mutable_property_alist_,
115 sym, v);
116
117}
&mutable_property_alist_ is 0x4a, sym is 0xb7309050, and v is 0x1a.
using gcc 4.6.0 on ubuntu meercat
Is this a known thing or should I look at it?
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Re: Can't build lilypond missing lily-guile.hh
On 12/06/2010 02:05 PM, Patrick Horgan wrote: No joy. Still seg-faulting on the simplest files. But! It was a gcc bug, not a lilypond bug. I was using gcc (GCC) 4.6.0 20101109. Pulling down and building gcc (GCC) 4.6.0 20101207 and then rebuilding lilypond made everything happy. Sorry for the noise. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't build lilypond missing lily-guile.hh
On 12/06/2010 10:17 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: 2010/12/6 Patrick Horgan: patr...@dell$ git checkout Dflower/include/guile-compatibility.hh Dlily/guile-init.cc Dlily/include/lily-guile-macros.hh Dlily/lily-guile.cc Dly/guile-debugger.ly Dscm/guile-debugger.scm Something or sobebody deleted those files. What does 'git branch' say? * master Also, 'git reset --hard' should restore all deleted files. Use with care! Checking them out individually restored them already, and I can build again, but using lilypond on all files now, always results in: GNU LilyPond 2.13.42 Processing `strangetabs.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Segmentation fault (core dumped) The segfault is with non-useful backtrace in the core because the stack is corrupt. That's after make distclean and autogen.sh and make install. I'm going to try the reset hard, followed by a distclean and augogen.sh and make install, since something is messed up...time passing... No joy. Still seg-faulting on the simplest files. #0 is_live (this=0x1a, sym=0xb6baa070, v=0x1a) at grob-property.cc:316 #1 internal_set_value_on_alist (this=0x1a, sym=0xb6baa070, v=0x1a) at grob-property.cc:123 #2 Grob::internal_set_property (this=0x1a, sym=0xb6baa070, v=0x1a) at grob-property.cc:115 #3 0x0828c09a in Engraver_dispatch_list::apply (this=0x8df6aa0, gi=...) at translator-dispatch-list.cc:35 #4 0x080d693f in acknowledge_grobs (this=0x8ddf0b0) at engraver-group.cc:122 #5 Engraver_group::acknowledge_grobs (this=0x8ddf0b0) at engraver-group.cc:83 #6 0x080d6c40 in Engraver_group::do_announces (this=0x8ddf0b0) at engraver-group.cc:172 #7 0x080d6c25 in Engraver_group::do_announces (this=0x8dde958) at engraver-group.cc:162 #8 0x081f9bd1 in one_time_step (self=0x8dde958, ev=0xb6c1cce8) at score-engraver.cc:152 #9 Score_engraver::one_time_step_callback (self=0x8dde958, ev=0xb6c1cce8) at score-engraver.cc:145 #10 0x080c6ace in Dispatcher::dispatch (this=0x8dd8130, sev=0xb6c1cce8) at dispatcher.cc:150 #11 0x080be227 in Context::internal_send_stream_event (this=0x814, type=0xb6b4ca00, origin=0x0, props=0xbf960a7c) at context.cc:461 #12 0x080fbbcc in Global_context::run_iterator_on_me (this=0x8dddcb0, iter= 0x8dde2d0) at global-context.cc:170 #13 0x080fa56c in ly_interpret_music_expression (mus=0x8dddcb0, ctx=0xb6c29d00) at global-context-scheme.cc:119 #14 0x080fa996 in ly_run_translator (mus=0xb70782b0, output_def=0xb6c29d00) at global-context-scheme.cc:147 #15 0x081fea2e in Score::book_rendering (this=0x8cfb2d0, layoutbook=0x8bb9390, default_def=0x8ca3bd8) at score.cc:157 #16 0x080947a4 in Book::process_score (this=0x8bb9338, s=0xb6f400e0, output_paper_book=0x8cb3e28, layout=0x8ca3bd8) at book.cc:230 #17 0x08094cbc in Book::process (this=0x8bb9338, default_paper=0x8c67e18, default_layout=0x8ca3bd8, parent_part=0x0) at book.cc:296 #18 0x08094d87 in Book::process (this=0x8bb9338, default_paper=0x8c67e18, default_layout=0x8ca3bd8) at book.cc:201 #19 0x08091fec in ly_book_process (book_smob=0x8ca3bd8, default_paper=0xb73c6898, default_layout=0xb72f77f8, output=0x1a) at book-scheme.cc:76 #20 0x004ed60b in scm_gsubr_apply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #21 0x004d6bd4 in scm_dapply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #22 0x004d7727 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #23 0x004daefb in scm_primitive_eval () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #24 0x081bfb5a in ly_parse_scm ( s=0x8b3a4a5 "(let ((book-handler (if (defined? 'default-toplevel-book-handle---Type to continue, or q to quit--- r)\n", ' ' , "default-toplevel-book-handler\n", ' ' , "toplevel-book-handler)))\n (cond ((pair? toplevel-boo"..., n=0xbf961038, i=..., safe=false, parser=0x8c56c20) at parse-scm.cc:139 #25 0x082af89f in Lily_lexer::yylex (this=0x8c56f30) at lexer.ll:351 #26 0x082b3d80 in yylex (my_lily_parser=0x8c56c20) at parser.yy:2779 #27 yyparse (my_lily_parser=0x8c56c20) at out/parser.cc:2448 #28 0x081373e8 in Lily_parser::parse_file (this=0x8c56c20, init=Cannot access memory at address 0x1a ) at lily-parser.cc:121 #29 0x08135039 in ly_parse_file (name=0xbf9629b0) at lily-parser-scheme.cc:123 #30 0x004d8749 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #31 0x004d6c5b in scm_dapply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #32 0x004d54a8 in scm_apply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #33 0x004daa4d in scm_call_0 () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #34 0x005393f0 in scm_body_thunk () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #35 0x00539913 in scm_c_catch () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #36 0x00539b5d in scm_catch_with_pre_unwind_handler () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #37 0x004ed60b in scm_gsubr_apply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #38 0x004d6bd4 in scm_dapply () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #39 0x004d7727 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #40 0x004d7812 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libguile.so.17 #41 0x004d6
Re: Can't build lilypond missing lily-guile.hh
On 12/06/2010 12:14 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: git checkout HEAD lily/include/lily-guile.hh That's strange. That got it, but I wonder why git pull didn't? After getting it, now it complains about another missing file included from lily-guile.hh. ./include/lily-guile.hh:37:34: fatal error: guile-compatibility.hh: No such file or directory compilation terminated. I can reclone the repository, but I'm intrigued about what sort of state things can get in that git won't fetch those. So anyway I just typed git checkout, and got this: patr...@dell$ git checkout Dflower/include/guile-compatibility.hh Dlily/guile-init.cc Dlily/include/lily-guile-macros.hh Dlily/lily-guile.cc Dly/guile-debugger.ly Dscm/guile-debugger.scm Then I did a git checkout of each of them. git checkout flower/include/guile-compatibility.hh git checkout lily/guile-init.cc git checkout lily/include/lily-guile-macros.hh git checkout lily/lily-guile.cc git checkout ly/guile-debugger.ly git checkout scm/guile-debugger.scm Now everything builds fine. Now I didn't delete them out of my tree. Although it's always in the back of my mind that I want to learn the lilypond code, I haven't done it yet, so all I ever do is the occasional git pull and make install. Anyone have any ideas what could have gone wrong? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Can't build lilypond missing lily-guile.hh
Has anyone else seen this? git pull, make cleandist, autogen.sh with no complaints, then make fails with this result: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/lilypond/lily' cp -p /usr/local/lilypond/config.hh out/config.hh rm -f ./out/accidental-engraver.dep; DEPENDENCIES_OUTPUT="./out/accidental-engraver.dep ./out/accidental-engraver.o" g++ -c -Woverloaded-virtual -I/usr/include/python2.6 -I/usr/include/python2.6 -fno-strict-aliasing -g -g -fwrapv -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DNDEBUG -I./include -I./out -I../flower/include -I../flower/./out -I../flower/include -O2 -finline-functions -g -pipe -pthread -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -pthread -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -Wno-pmf-conversions -W -Wall -Wconversion -o out/accidental-engraver.o accidental-engraver.cc In file included from ./include/accidental-placement.hh:23:0, from accidental-engraver.cc:21: ./include/grob-interface.hh:23:25: fatal error: lily-guile.hh: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make[1]: *** [out/accidental-engraver.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/lilypond/lily' make: *** [all] Error 2 Where can I get lily-guile.hh? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vim
On 12/03/2010 09:24 AM, Patrick Karl wrote: On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:01 AM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:58:07 -0800 From: michael webster Subject: Re:vim To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID:<7697ea0a-cba0-47c0-b978-b25c6ffd3...@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes in recent comments folks have discouraged vim - I have learned vim (MacVim) specifically for Lilypond use and have found it terrific. I have mapped commands to send to lilypond and view pdf or open midi output in Quicktime player. The syntax coloring is a pain to install but works. vims capabilities (eg finding other instances of text the cursor is on, folding, navigation) and plugins (snippets, alignment) are super useful in a Lilypond context. Could you say a few more words about the mapped commands and the syntax coloring? Is there anything you could share? Is there a section in the lily docs for something like this? I seem to vaguely remember reading something about it long ago. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to include a file just once?
Too bad there's no #ifdef #define #endif or a conditional include on a variable known to identify the inclusion of a particular file. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Incorrect Lilypond version
hsweet wrote: Hi all... I've installed what I think should be Lilypond 2.12 every way I can dream up, the installation messages say it's installing 2.12. but lilypond -v still thinks it 2.10.33. Perhaps you have another lilypond earlier in your path? Type which lilypond from the command line and see which one shows up. whereis lilypond will show all. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Incorrect Lilypond version
Federico Bruni wrote: ...elision by patrick... I've often wondered why, even though I have a version of LilyPond installed from repository (therefore located in /usr/bin), when I install a package of a new version that version becomes the default in the environment. For example now: f...@debian:~$ which lilypond /home/fede/bin/lilypond What kind of trick is this? It's your PATH. The PATH is how unix/linux finds things. If you type: echo $PATH you'll see that either ~/bin, or /home/fede/bin, comes before /usr/bin. They're searched in the order they occur in your PATH. If you'd like it to be different, find the file that sets it when you log in. It will be something like .bashrc or .bash_profile or .profile. Edit that file and change the order of things, (or add too), your PATH. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Divided voices
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote:
It is important for the same voices to remain in the same Voice context.
So if you have this:
\new Voice = "soprano" { c8 d e } and you want to go to S1 and S2, you
should use this construct:
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice = "soprano" \relative c' { \voiceOne c8 d e( << { f) }
\new Voice = "s2" { \voiceTwo d } >> }
}
}
That is so cool! I had to reindent it to figure out what happened.
Who knew you could start a new voice inside another voice midstream! I
added a couple more simultaneous notes and then a couple of soprano
notes after the join just to make sure I understood it. This is really
exciting!
\version "2.12.2"
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice = "soprano" \relative c' {
\voiceOne c8 d e(
<<
{ f) g e
}
\new Voice = "s2" {
\voiceTwo d c b
}
>>
c8 c2
}
}
}
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Does the lovely Introduction to the 2.12 LM exist in 2.13?
I hadn't read the LM for some time and thought it would be nice to see how it was doing. I started reading the 2.12 version and was wonderfully surprised by the Introduction which gives great history and context to understand the rest. I saw one document issue I thought I might bring up with the editors, so checked the 2.13 LM to see if it was already dealt with before I bothered people with something that had already been fixed. To my surprise, I couldn't find the section. I thought maybe it moved to essay, but that's different content. Does it still exist somewhere? If not I recommend everyone go and read it while you can;) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Part name with staff groups/grand staff
Mats Bengtsson wrote: You mean like the following example? Doesn't work with odd numbers of staffs. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [frogs] Re: Numeric note heads for singers
pound...@lineone.net wrote:
... elision by patrick ...
This:
\layout {
\context {
\Voice
\consists \ez-numbers-engraver
}
}
Gives this error:
numerNoteHeads2.ly:29:14: error: syntax error, unexpected
SCM_IDENTIFIER, expecting STRING
\consists
\ez-numbers-engraver
on 2.13.11 built from trunk. I do get an output with pretty numbered
note heads though.
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Re: 2 songs on one page
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Patrick (et al.), for people who haven't used the LSR (lilypond snippet repository) before, if you click on the pretty pictures of things you want to do, they turn into lilypond code for you to learn from:) It's all automagic. Your post brings up a good point: each LSR snippet page should explicitly say this. It would make life easier for everyone. Wouldn't that be grand. I thought of suggesting it, but wondered about whether every page should take up space for something people only need to hear once. Of course there are a lot of people seeing a page from the LSR for the first time. Cheers, Kieren. Regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2 songs on one page
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote: У нд, 2010-01-10 у 13:49 +0100, Martin Tarenskeen пише: Hi, I want to put two (little) songs on one page, both complete with title, subtitle, and composer headers, but footer information - if any - only at the bottom of the page. But I can't figure out how to do this. Help ? I believe this can help You?.. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=310 This will go without saying for most, but for people who haven't used the LSR (lilypond snippet repository) before, if you click on the pretty pictures of things you want to do, they turn into lilypond code for you to learn from:) It's all automagic. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
I hope you like this off-topic post
Just quickly, because many will miss this, on gamedev network there's a cool little orchestration tutorial. http://www.gamedev.net/reference/music/features/brfOrchGuide/ Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: first bar width
Federico Bruni wrote: I'm writing a blank sheet to be used for hand writing (see attached file). The problem is that the first bar of each line is too large compared with the other bars. I guess this is due to a default padding value of some property.. I don't know which.. You'd want some extra room for key signature. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
I need some pointers
I've committed to making a key for guitar tablature that will show little snippets of tab along with descriptions. How do I do that? Any pointers greatly appreciated;) I understand TAB quite well, and vocal music on lilypond well, as well, but well, don't understand how TAB on lilypond that much, and have never tried to combine text and lily. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Inline score inside markup - bugs in music alignment
Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Patrick Horgan wrote: Don't feel bad. I have a Masters in Computer Science and I don't understand Scheme at all in spite of having an AI class that used Scheme about a million years ago. Yes, don't feel bad. Despite speaking, reading, and writing a language (English) for over 20 years, I can't understand a single sentence of Turkish. Scheme is not hard to learn if you want to learn it. If you make no attempt to learn it, then you obviously won't understand it! We have contributers writing scheme who haven't taken a single CS class, let alone getting a degree in the subject. I have no problem with Jiri's initial request for help, but don't claim that scheme is hard to learn. Now Graham, you know I never once claimed it was hard to learn. Best regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Inline score inside markup - bugs in music alignment
Jiri Zurek (Prague) wrote: ...elision by Patrick ... I am so sorry that I did not study computer science so that I would understand scheme coding, but to my greatest misfortune it is above my capabiblities. I am alone to be blamed for this, but this is the reason that I am looking for someone to help. Don't feel bad. I have a Masters in Computer Science and I don't understand Scheme at all in spite of having an AI class that used Scheme about a million years ago. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just a quick TAB question
Carl Sorensen wrote: On 10/27/09 12:53 PM, "Patrick Horgan" wrote: Soon to do my first guitar tab piece in lily and was wondering if there's any way to automagically print out the TAB key, i.e. the thing that explains to the reader/player what all the TAB symbols mean? Nope. But you could create a TAB key using markup commands and add it to the LSR. That would be a good contribution to the LilyPond. And it could even get added as a selected snippet in the documentation. I commit to it. I suspected it was something I needed to do. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Just a quick TAB question
Soon to do my first guitar tab piece in lily and was wondering if there's any way to automagically print out the TAB key, i.e. the thing that explains to the reader/player what all the TAB symbols mean? Most TAB pieces have one, and since there's a number of /families/ of guitar TAB notation commonly used, none of which is quite like the lily one (which is using the tabFullNotation, in my opinion superior to any I've seen), it's needed. On an aside note, Stefan Grossman, the English country blues historian/expert/god of all blues knowledge, uses TAB notation where the fret numbers go in the /spaces/ Bizarre and very hard to read. The lines are supposed to be your strings, I don't know what he's using the spaces for. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: indent-ly
Graham Percival wrote: What about a version that read from standard input and wrote to standard input? I'm thinking about the documentation -- we could automatically format all lilypond input syntax. On unix a lot of tools default to input coming from one or more file(s) whose names are specified on the command line, and output going to standard output. They act as filters and you can put them in pipelines. Some specify one or more input filename(s) as the only non-option command line argument(s). Many of them have no facility to specify output filenames, requiring redirection if you want them to write to a file. Examples include sed, od, hd, col, cut, awk, indent, and bc. One variant you see a lot is that some programs will read a file list and after they're done they'll read from stdin until they run out of input. indent, which does for C programs what you're doing for lilypond programs has several syntaxes. indent [options] [input-files] This will create a backup of all the input files and then replace the original file with prettyfied versions. indent [options] [-o output-file] If no files are specified, it reads from standard in and then if there's no -o option it writes to standard out. If there is a -o option it writes to the specified file. indent [options] [single-input-file] [-o output-file] This will write to the output file if -o specified, backup and replace the original single-input-file if -o not specified. indent -st [input-file] the -st option means write to standard out, so writes the result of prettyfying the input-file to standard out. Hope this helps. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: title on a separate page (Susan Dittmar)
Frederick, using 2.13.4, with your version of the title on a separate page, I get 434 instances of: programming error: note head has no event cause continuing, cross fingers and 217 instances of: programming error: these accidentals do not have a pitch continuing, cross fingers It follows a pattern, with 2 of the no event cause one's folloed by one of the do not have a pitch ones, 217 times. I get just the same errors from valentin's, and a similar pattern from kieren's which then seg faults. Do you know why? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for drums
Philippe Hezaine wrote: elision done here... Hi, There is an error in the typesetting. The author writes <> Write it: 8 Cheers. Thanks! one quick global search and replace and the code compiles cleanly and gives a good output. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for drums
Just out of curiosity, (since I don't play, nor read, drum music), I
compiled this with lilypond version 2.13.4 on ubuntu. It built the
output, but with many complaints like:
GNU LilyPond 2.13.4
Processing `test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
programming error: note head has no event cause
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: note head has no event cause
continuing, cross fingers
programming error: these accidentals do not have a pitch
continuing, cross fingers
How could it be modified to give the same beautiful output without all
the complaints?
\version "2.11.58"
\header {
title = "Drum Excersises Robin"
subtitle = "week 40 - 2009"
}
% -- Drums --
up = \drummode {
\voiceOne
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8
cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8 cymr8 cymr8 <> cymr8
}
down = \drummode {
\voiceTwo
bd4 bd4 bd4 bd4
pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 bd4 bd4 bd4
pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 bd4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 bd4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 bd4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 bd4 pedalhihat4 pedalhihat4
bd4 pedalhihat4 bd4 pedalhihat4
bd4 pedalhihat4 bd4 pedalhihat4
bd4 pedalhihat4 bd4 pedalhihat4
bd4 pedalhihat4 bd4 pedalhihat4
}
drumContents = {
<<
\new DrumVoice \up
\new DrumVoice \down
>>
}
\score
{
<<
\new StaffGroup = "rhythm" <<
\new DrumStaff \drumContents
>>
>>
\layout {
indent = #0
}
\midi { }
}
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Re: Lilypond - chord progression
Christian Henning wrote: Hi all, thanks for the replies. I could fix all of my problems. I'm using multipliers now which I find easier to use and to read. Thanks to Brett Duncan. This now finishes my first project using lilypond. I like it and will continue using it. Great stuff! Christian Well, could we see the final result? :) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: chord durations
Tim McNamara wrote: I am a guitarist. If all he wants is a chord chart, some paper and a pencil would be a better approach. Or even a word processor two write out the chords like Ralph Patt did with the Vanilla Book. http://www.ralphpatt.com/VBook.html Christian's trying to do something LilyPond is not designed to do when what he really needs is a lead sheet, if he wants to use LilyPond without a lot of kerfuffling around. I've sent him information about this back-channel. I agree it would be silly to use lilypond just to generate something like: || C7/ / / | C / / / | C / / / | C / / / | | F / / / | F / / / | C / / / | C / / / | | G7 / / / | F / / / C / / / | C / / / || But what if it was only one of the outputs from the music, which also generated tab and sheet music, and midi? While you're already using the data to generate the other useful forms, what you be wrong with using it to generate charts, which are a very commonly used thing in the jazz world? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: chord durations
Tim McNamara wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:30 PM, Christian Henning wrote: Am I right, that lilypond is rarely used for my type of notation? Meaning rock/pop tunes for acoustic guitar. No, the style of music makes no difference. But LilyPond is intended for engraving music which is fundamentally based upon notes on the staff, and you seem to be just writing out chord progressions without a melody. LilyPond is really not designed for this. If you were writing in the melody with the chords above the staff, many of your problems would be resolved. I think that what you are trying to do is to write out lead sheets, No he's writing chord charts--pretty common for guitarists. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up
Definitely like alternative style 1 ( the green ) better. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: staff lines blurred on my website
It's a matter of not enough dots to have dots in all the right places. o o o o Imagine three lines have to be shown by turning on the dots above. The top and the bottom row line right up with rows of dots so that's easy. The middle line though goes right in between two rows of dots, so the screen would light up the rows of dots on either side of the desired position partially to simulate the line where it can't actually draw one. You'd get two crisp black lines with a fuzzy grey line in between. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: publish to website
Patrick Horgan wrote: Gerard McConnell wrote: AFAIK to put an image on a web-page, I need a bitmap, not a .pdf. I can't find any reference to .png in any of the docs. So far I've been using alt-printScreen and Paint to produce .png files. While this sort of works, I'm not getting the best output that Lilypond can deliver, due to minor inconsistencies in barline width and notehead placement. I would prefer to get this right, since I state on the website that I'm using Lilypond for score creation. What should I be doing to place a Lilypond score on my webpages? If you're on anything that can act like a mac or linux, use Jonathan Kulp's lily2image script it does a great job of making the image and you can even use transparency. Great work Jonathan. It's been posted here, but I don't know if it comes with lilypond yet. Usage: lily2image [-v] [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename -v print version number and quit -a about - tell about us and exit -t indicates transparency is desired -r=N set resolution to N (usually 72-2000) -f=FORMAT set format to FORMAT one of: jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp . . . -V=viewer set image viewer, examp: -V=evince filename a lilypond file -q quiet mode - no echoes, error code on exit -p show created image in a viewer Creator Jonathan Kulp Gadfly Patrick Horgan Chief Beta Tester Josh Parmenter Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: publish to website
Gerard McConnell wrote: AFAIK to put an image on a web-page, I need a bitmap, not a .pdf. I can't find any reference to .png in any of the docs. So far I've been using alt-printScreen and Paint to produce .png files. While this sort of works, I'm not getting the best output that Lilypond can deliver, due to minor inconsistencies in barline width and notehead placement. I would prefer to get this right, since I state on the website that I'm using Lilypond for score creation. What should I be doing to place a Lilypond score on my webpages? If you're on anything that can act like a mac or linux, use Jonathan Kulp's lily2image script it does a great job of making the image and you can even use transparency. Great work Jonathan. It's been posted here, but I don't know if it comes with lilypond yet. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Speed-up compiling
Michael Käppler wrote: Hi all, I'm "suffering" from enormous compiling durations on large files. With "large" I mean a file with about 250 measures and seven staves per system. The last time I compiled the file completely (without using showLastLength) I did it overnight, since after one and a half hour Lilypond still was "Preformatting graphical elements..." (Don't know what's the correct term in the english version) I know that's my laptop is way too old to do such complex task quickly - (Athlon XP 2600, 256MB Ram, OpenSUSE 11.1) but are there general suggestions which help to speed up the compiling process? The one thing you could do is greatly increase your ram to 1GB. You'll think you have a new computer for $50-$150. Here's why. Here's the problem. You're thrashing to disk, which means the amount of memory used by lilypond is far larger than the available real memory and your system is spending more time moving information between disk and memory than it is actually running your programs. Modern operating systems support virtual memory which means that you can use a larger amount of pretend memory than the existing real hardware memory. As much of the virtual memory will be in the hardware memory as possible including the stuff you're using the most, and the part that doesn't fit will be located in a special area of your hard drive. That means that when lilypond or another application wants to use more than 256MB of memory to speed things up, some of the stuff that should be in hardware memory for speed gets pushed out to the disk. When lilypond tries to access the part of memory that's actually on disk, it has to move something else from hardware memory to disk to make room, and then read the part you're trying to access from disk back into hardware memory. Disks are WAY SLOWER than memory. A common disk these days might take 10ms (.010 seconds), on average, to access a bit of data. Memory would likely take 10ns (.000 000 010 seconds) to access a bit of data. That means that getting the data out of memory is a MILLION times faster. This is, I'm sure, slowing down many other things for you, not just lilypond. 256MB or even 512MB is not enough for current software on current operating systems. The truth is even worse than I just explained, because you never get to use the whole 256MB anyway. Some of that hardware memory is reserved by the OS for the kernel. It never gets swapped out. It's locked into physical memory. On my Ubuntu box right now it's 45MB, although less would be reserved if there was less available memory--I have 2GB physical memory. Be thankful you're not using Microsoft Windows. It uses up a LOT more memory than Linux just to present you with an interface you can use to run programs. Your system would die trying to start up. Here's the fix. Without buying a new computer, you can buy new RAM (Random Access Memory) and you'll THINK that you have a new computer. It will make you amazed at the difference! You will dance around and shout Huzzah! Woman will hold up their babies to be kissed by you. You will get a promotion and a humanitarian award. Yes! It makes that big a difference! To find out what kind of RAM you need you can go to the online memory sites of memory vendors like Kingston or Crucial who have tools you can use to look up what kind of memory your computer takes. Your laptop with Athlon XP 2600, is likely to max out at 1GB-1 2GB. If it supports 1 1/2 GB don't do it, just get 1GB. Memory likes to be in amounts that are powers of two (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, etc.) 1 1/2GB is not any of these and while your hardware may have special circuitry to support that strange amount, it will actually slow you down! You'll be taking out the 256MB chip and throwing it away. Depending on the hardware you'll support a maximum size CHIP of either 512MB or 1GB. Two 512MB chips supply as much memory as one 1GB chip. If you support the 1GB chip, just buy one of those and for around $50 you'll be happy. If the maximum size you support is 512MB, you'll have to buy two of those and it will probably cost you $60-$120. It's possible that your hardware will support expanding to 2GB with two 1GB chips for around $100-$120. That's up to you, but you wont see a dramatic change for most applications after 1GB. 2GB will let you run more than one memory hungry thing at a time and some rare applications can use the extra memory by themselves (including lilypond with a large enough input file). It's up to you. Go to this CNET video for more tips about how to expand RAM. If you search around there's lots of videos and tutorials about how to do it. If you have any more questions just ask. Best regards, Patrick p.s. Memory uses a lot less energy that spinning a disk, so if you have power saving on which stops spinning your drive when you aren't using it, you will save much energy and get much longer battery life, and hel
Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords
David Fedoruk wrote: The original BerkLee Real Fake book is no longer available, nor are some of the others. These fake books have to have thousands of clearances to be ablel to put these books together as they are and be able to be legally sold. Ironically, their The Real Book was a bootleg done by two students and that's why it's hard to get--nevertheless it's on thousands of music stands all over the world and you can still find bootleg editions of it for sale under the counter of hipper music stores. It was ground breaking because unlike the official fake books of the day they attempted to document the real changes being played by real jazz artists. Hal Leonard has re-released it as a sixth edition (to follow the five bootleg editions) that is mostly the same, only replacing the songs that he couldn't get publishing rights to (no Frank Zappa sigh), and fixing some problems in the bootleg ones. If you get it I recommend the mini editions (in volume I, II, and three;). They're just as readable, comb binding to lay flat on a music stand, and fit in a gig bag better. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website draft 5: help wanted, I mean it
Graham Percival wrote:
I'll volunteer for css and/or proofreading. I also don't have a job or
girlfriend;) I'll be in Peru much of August though and looking for a
job after that. Put me to work. (Although I'll have to confess, as far
as css goes, the current new stuff is looking great already!)
Patrick
http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html
There's now an Examples section, thanks to Jonathan Kulp.
- currently, most examples have a "click-to-expand" thing. Some
of them don't work expanded, others don't work non-expanded.
But there's enough working stuff for you to get the idea.
IS THIS WORTH IT? Making it work nicely in small+expanded
versions is turning out to be a pain. I'm wondering if we
should just stick to small examples, which are approximately
infinitely times easier to create/modify/regenerate.
More importantly, we need help. I recently re-iterated my claim
that the lilypond community should have the
program/bugs/documentation/website they deserve, but currently
this isn't happening -- Patrick and I have spent a ton of time and
effort on this website.
- Patrick wants to spend time programming lilypond. I also want
him to spend time programming. He's doing nifty stuff like
fixing the SVG output, fixing misc bugs, and cleaning up a ton
of advanced documentation.
WE NEED A NEW CSS PERSON.
- I'm wasting a lot of time on mundane jobs. For example, the old
news page needs to be put into the new website source. This
means going through a bunch of things like
New German translaton! Aug 07, 2006
Ich nein katza, http://blah";>auf blitzen drie.
and turning it into
@subheading New German Translation! 2006 Aug 07
Ich nein katza, @uref{http://blah, auf blitzen} drie.
Not hard. I could even train an undergraduate to do this job!
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO WRITE TEXT.
- I tend to rewrite / reword sentences as I work on them, but I
have a nasty habit of not reading the once I erase stuff and
write new material. The result is by native English speakers,
although it may slightly confusing. Not what we in a shiny
new website, that's for certain!
(also, many sentences on the website could be rewritten to
reduce the words, reduce the complexity -- remember, we have
a fair chunk of non-native English readers, so let's not
elaborate our missives with loquatious (sp) verbitage)
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO PROOFREAD TEXT.
- Some of the examples could be improved... fancier formatting,
adding more text to the theory example, etc.
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO WORK ON .LY FILES.
Now, I'm *completely* capable of doing any of those tasks (even
self-proofreading, once I get into the mood)... but
a) I don't think I should be doing so much work on this, and
b) if somebody does those jobs, I can tackle harder stuff.
I'm *really* not doing much this summer other than lilypond -- I
have no job, no studies, no girlfriend -- so it's mainly a
question of "what parts of lilypond do I work on", not "will I
work on something". So, just like we all benefit from having
Patrick *not* working on CSS stuff, I think we would all benefit
from me *not* working on the website so much.
Cheers,
-Graham
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
Valentin Villenave wrote: Anyway, I think we're living exciting times with regards to LilyPond, and no matter how long it takes I do believe we're making history right here :-) That's exciting!!! And I believe true. And I believe that although there is much credit to go around, we should recognize how Graham's organizational pushing has been a big win for lilypond. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: website draft 4, help wanted
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/7/6 Mark Polesky : I also like the layout of gimp.org. Click their menu links too. Nice looking site. Since you're mentioning that, http://www.blender.org/ has a top-menu that is very similar to the new Lily website's draft. It was nice to see that the gimp.org site uses a different, less dramatic, but more readable style for the developers stuff. I wish blender did. Maybe people that stare at text all day need different styles than people that stare at images. I personally am not fond of the apparently dying fad for dark dramatic web pages. I'm not seeing as many as I used to. For awhile they were everywhere! For my 54 (in two day) year old eyes, the dark pages with light text are not nearly as usable as light (white) pages with dark text. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Graham Percival wrote: ...oh there was various stuff (I'm sure I don't remember what) elided here... I didn't expect a reference to Nanoha on the -user mailist. (so of course I had to add one myself ;) Thank you for that:) Cheers, - Graham Regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
On the Crash Course page you've made me double my understanding of /batch/ system. When we used it years ago we meant as opposed to interactive. You submitted your batch job with job control and all the jobs got ran in batches with all the other jobs that were ready when the operator got around to it or as the result of a certain time coming around. We would have used lilypond in an interative system by typing the command when we wanted it to run and having it run right then which is what I think I do now. I never have to submit jobs for lilypond and it runs interactively when I ask it to. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
On this page http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_6.html#Crash-course it mentions that help is wanted because an example is too wide for narrow media. What's the criteria? It fits in 800x600 just fine and these day web-developers say that 1024x768 is the new 800x600. Much of the site certainly doesn't work for hand held devices. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: initial comments
Graham Percival wrote:
Here's a very rough initial draft of our new website:
http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html
The purple background as used on the documentation page has terrible
contrast/clash with the blue of unvisited links on Firefox on Linux
making it really hard to read. It makes me squint because my brain
thinks something's out of focus. Then, after you visit them the visited
link color is too close to the purple--they almost disappear.
Additionally, the use of dark colors with black text makes my eyes work
to hard. The following choices are more readable on my machine while
giving a similar effect.
..docs-beginner {
float: left;
width: 48%;
border: 1pt solid black;
background-color: #99;
}
..docs-normal {
float: right;
width: 48%;
border: 1pt solid black;
background-color: #ccffee;
}
..docs-advanced {
display: block;
margin: 0 auto;
border: 1pt solid black;
background-color: #ffddff;
}
Patrick (the other)
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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick McCarty wrote: I'm still experimenting with this. :-) I've created another design with a color palette that passes the W3C Web Content Accessibility guidelines for color contrast: This is great for me! Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unusual Alto Clef
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Cool!! I've attached the infamous Ravel quartet snippet that prompted me to post the query about this clef in the first place. Your C clef looks nice in there, almost like the original. Of course in this passage there's a switch to treble clef, and when it returns to alto, the clef is a teency bit too big (the original is almost the same size vertically but less inky), but still this is much closer to the appearance of the original score than a standard alto clef. Thanks for creating that, Valentin! I'm adding it to my snippet definitions file. :) I notice the cool alto clef doesn't have any space in front (to the left) like the other clefs. Is this normal for this clef, or does it need to be tweaked? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \mark, chords and notes collide
Sebastian Menge wrote:
BTW: Does anyone know the latex-package "layouts" (as introduced in the
latex companion)? It renders the layout of a page with all properties
(margins etc) displayed by lines and text. Something similar would be
awful for lilypond. I always feel like groping in the dark with all
those properties and spacing etc.
I'm guessing someone else already replied to this, but if not:
\paper { annotate-spacing = ##t }
does what you want, I think.
Patrick
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Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review
Graham Percival wrote: On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:40:48 -0700 Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...muchly stuff elided... Thanks, Graham, I laughed out loud in Pizza My Heart reading this until people were staring at me in envy! Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review
James E. Bailey wrote: I can see now how the church of emacs was codified. Ah, he refers to how backwards, emacs is scam e, or an electronic scam! I learn more by the hour! Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review
I think that I've learned the most from the online conversations
between Graham and Valentin, and as a tribute to them, would like to
give what to some may seem an overly obvious interpretation of the
undercurrents in their communications.
Graham Percival wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:44:27 +0200
"Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We've already had that argument one year ago. Back then, I went to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor
The definitive source of all knowledge and wisdom, of course.
Of course here Graham is saying, But I always thought it was Monty
Python or Frank Zappa (depending on Astrological imports of course).
Also, what do you mean by "using a specific syntax"? (same
paragraph)
Obviously a syntax which is specific, you maoing (maoing mean in such a
way as to be in spiritual communion with chairman mao) arguer o'doom!
No it doesn't "precisely explain". The word "this" refers back to
"a specific syntax", which doesn't tell the reader anything. I
mean, what's a non-specific syntax?
Ah, the master pauses to see if we pay attention. The obvious answer
is that it is a syntax which does not support the needs of the
collective, but in a deeper and more spiritual, non-obvious sense, it
is a syntax which is non-specific! I hope I deserve your approval
master.
I said "an example", not "an @example".
Or to put it in another way,
If you want to know the taste of a pear, you must change the pear by eating it yourself.
If you want to know the theory and methods of revolution, you must take
part in revolution. All genuine knowledge originates in direct experience.--Mao Zedong
I was tempted to have a markuplines @lilypond block here, but I
couldn't figure out how to print a multi-page snippet image.
N.B. multi-page refers to trans-dimensional personnel who announce the
presence of important functionaries or plenipotentiaries, although
confusingly enough, in some of those dimensions, it refers to several
pages.
You don't need to quote stuff that you've done. I know that I'm
right. I really don't need the ego boost of having you tell me. :)
Yes, the master shows us that the ego is nothing and we are all one in
a cosmic all--or to put it in another way, the collective is everything
and we are nothing except so far as we find our fulfillment in the
achievements of the party.
No, you maoing look twice.
@noindent
Some of these font families, used for specific items
such as numbers or dynamics, do not provide all
characters, as mentioned in @ref{New dynamic marks} and
@ref{Manual repeat marks}.
Where's this magical comma after the first @ref{} ?!
When he refers to the magical comma, and it's seemingly miraculous
appearance, obviously he is quoting mao's famous aphorism:
It is more agreeable to have the power to give than to receive.
So we too must give magical commas, (a metaphor for bread lines)
to the universe, and then, if worthy, may in a Heinleinian sense grok
the comma.
I'd actually rather kill \larger. \smaller \bigger sounds better
than \smaller \larger.
Bigger sounds better, the power of
alliteration tied to the magic of commas. Ah, how could I have not
seen it? smaller is not alliterative with larger, hence is of less
worth, in the same way that Mao is More! But don't miss the sense of kill
\larger, i.e. those who resist the collection must be removed, and
in this case violence in the service of the order of the collective is
really peace.
That's as far as I got before I got bored.
A clear and obvious reference to T. Lobsang Rampa, who decried the
western aversion of boredom as a fleeing from the meditative trance
state. The master is letting us know that it was time for him to
meditate, and indeed it is time for all of us to meditate. Oh most
great benificent master, we give our thanks;) I'm reminded of Chez
Evelyn Underhill who famously said:
It must be brooded upon,
gazed at, seized again and again, as distractions
seem to snatch it from your grasp. A restless boredom, a dreary
conviction of your own incapacity, will presently attack you. This,
too, must be resisted at sword-point.
Nice way of admitting you couldn't find anything else since everything
was perfect from there :)
The student makes a satirical reference to perfection to show his
understanding that perfection is a journey, not a destination. It is
clear that this is an oblique reference to Mao's:
Classes struggle, some classes triumph, others are eliminated.
Such is
history; such is the history of civilization for thousands of years.
And seems an at lease fortuitous reference to Underhill's sword-point!
The servant is close to exceeding the master!
Uh-huh.
Note how Uh-huh has three h's, two u's and a dash. Backwards, it is
huh-hu. Need I point out the obvious 8th century b.c. Chinese poetic
reference here? The
Re: updated margins-a4-letter.ly
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Re: Does lilypond takes advantage of multi-cores on windows?
Graham Percival wrote: No, since the -dhelp options change more often, and they're more advanced stuff anyway. If they continue to change frequently, it'd be a good target for a script building the documentation page from the output of the -dhelp Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/10/3 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Patrick, you mentioned at some point along the way that it would have been better if I had started the whole thing in Python instead of bash. Would this also have made it easier to port to Windows? It wouldn't make it any easier or harder. If you used Python you'd have to have the PATH set up and you'd have to have python. It's just the script would have been much easier. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I've actually tried to do this. I booted into the Windows partition of my machine and installed Cygwin and the netpbm package, but I had trouble finding the netpbm stuff from the Cygwin bash shell. The shell seemed very isolated from the rest of the machine, as I couldn't access any of the documents in my home directory and in general it behaved in much the same way that virtual machines do when I've tried running them. I couldn't even figure out how to run Lilypond from the Cygwin prompt, and the script pretty much relies on being able to do that :) It's that pesky PATH thing again:) If you have the stuff on there, and a PATH variable that points to the various places, then it will work. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Tomas Valusek wrote: Jonathan Kulp napsal(a): After much revision, addition, and general fussing about with it, I'm happy to post the official version of what we're calling "lily2image," a script for converting lilypond source files to cropped image files in many different formats suitable for insertion into documents (theses, research papers, etc) or web pages. This works equally on Mac and Linux, but not on Windows. Well, not 100% true. I imagine if you set up the cygwin stuff (or one of the standalone Windoze bash implementations, and got all the netpbm utilites installed it would work. It would be great if someone could verify that. It's just a script, not an executable. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Kurt Kroon wrote: And while I'm thinking about it, you could deal with the line-height issue by setting it to 1.125, without any units. Thanks! I'd read the section on this in the spec, (and just re-read it), and it doesn't point out how much better it is for inheritance, and I didn't get it. I will from now on! Thanks a lot! Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick McCarty wrote: I like your stylesheet, in general. But I think some of the font sizes you are using will render parts of the documentation illegible on certain platforms (such as in the TOC). I like your choice of color especially. I know that most of this is personal, but I looked at it and still prefer the choice of color in Patrick's except I'd still like more contrast in the sidebar. It's amazing how nice the different left margin in the blockquote section looks. I wouldn't have thought of that. (But of course I will now, in CSS gratitude is shown by appropriation! ;) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick, if you add a line-height: 1.125em; to the .settitle section it fixes the strange overlap on small windows. The one it inherits from the body section uses a different em, and although you specify it in ems, it's inherited in pixels. Or in CSS speak, you don't inherit the specified value, but the computed value. (See the CSS2 spec section 6.1.1 below. Or, you could just take it out of the body section, but definitely it looks better with it. Here's part of the CSS2 spec that explains it and more (trying to whet your interest so that you'll go to w3c and get your own copy of the spec;) 6.1.1 Specified values User agents must first assign a specified value to each property based on the following mechanisms (in order of precedence): 1. If the cascade [p. 94] results in a value, use it. 2. Otherwise, if the property is inherited [p. 92] and the element is not the root of the document tree, use the computed value of the parent element. 3. Otherwise use the property’s initial value. The initial value of each property is indicated in the property’s definition. 6.1.2 Computed values Specified values are resolved to computed values during the cascade; for example URIs are made absolute and ’em’ and ’ex’ units are computed to pixel or absolute lengths. Computing a value never requires the user agent to render the document. The computed value of URIs that the UA cannot resolve to absolute URIs is the specified value. When the specified value is not ’inherit’, the computed value of a property is determined as specified by the Computed Value line in the definition of the property. See the section on inheritance [p. 92] for the definition of computed values when the specified value is ’inherit’. The computed value exists even when the property doesn’t apply, as defined by the ’Applies To’ [p. 25] line. However, some properties may define the computed value of a property for an element to depend on whether the property applies to that element. 6.1.3 Used values Computed values are processed as far as possible without formatting the document. Some values, however, can only be determined when the document is being laid out. For example, if the width of an element is set to be a certain percentage of its containing block, the width cannot be determined until the width of the containing block has been determined. The used value is the result of taking the computed value and resolving any remaining dependencies into an absolute value. 6.1.4 Actual values A used value is in principle the value used for rendering, but a user agent may not be able to make use of the value in a given environment. For example, a user agent may only be able to render borders with integer pixel widths and may therefore have to approximate the computed width, or the user agent may be forced to use only black and white shades instead of full colour. The actual value is the used value after any approximations have been applied. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the default. I
also wish that Patrick's style affected the sidebar contents.
Hi Patrick,
What do you mean by the "sidebar contents"?
I mean that this section of the css should format more similarly to
div#main. In particular, I'd like background-color to be white,
(#fff), instead of #eee, because I have 53 year old eyes, and contrast
is more important than it used to be.
div#tocframe {
position: absolute;
top: 0;
right: 73%;
bottom: 0;
left: 0;
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
overflow: auto;
background-color: #eee;
z-index: 100;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 0.83em;
line-height: 1.4em;
}
Thanks in advance,
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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
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Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Huh, I don't quite understand what you mean with the last sentence... What should be changed in the sidebar? I like the white background on the main page, the contrast is low on the sidebar. I think it would be much better with a white background as well. Patrick Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI4qE1TqjEwhXvPN0RAgtBAJ9XiooyMqIRh5aDDLCdZ5CUYBoRXQCg0Ba9 QgOnK7j0Bt/H4Qd6sjrIgA8= =9N7Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/index.html In particular, look at that page with both the current default and Patrick's alternative style Well done:) I still prefer Patrick's style and wish it were the default. I also wish that Patrick's style affected the sidebar contents. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Regarding the new Table of Contents in the GUB docs
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Ahm, sorry if I sound destructive, but: How hard is it to click on "[Contents]", which is located in EVERY gray navigation bar on EVERY page Does anyone else feel like we're doomed to follow Reinhold having good ideas only weeks after he's already had them;) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond.org down?
Paul Scott wrote: Hi, >From here lilypond.org seems to be down. I can't even ping it. Paul Scott From here too--if some can get to it, then something on the backbone quit routing for some reason. I did a traceroute which only worked to 12 hops, then tried up to 30 with no happiness. You should be able to get anywhere in the internet in 20-22. I'm guessing someone's routing tables are screwed up. It goes off into xs4all's netword and just rattles around for awhile and dies. traceroute to lilypond.org (82.94.241.173), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 172.16.1.1 (172.16.1.1) 0.588 ms 0.648 ms 0.746 ms 2 bras3-l0.pltnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.184.79) 23.428 ms 28.827 ms 34.258 ms 3 76.246.22.2 (76.246.22.2) 35.415 ms 35.896 ms 40.631 ms 4 bb2-g3-0.pltnca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.43.56) 45.345 ms 49.654 ms 49.964 ms 5 ppp-151-164-38-18.rcsntx.swbell.net (151.164.38.18) 53.895 ms 55.809 ms 58.520 ms 6 asn6398-bellsouth.pxpaca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.248.234) 61.007 ms 14.430 ms 23.392 ms 7 10gigabitethernet2-4.core1.ash1.he.net (72.52.92.30) 92.778 ms 95.785 ms 99.929 ms 8 10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.lon1.he.net (72.52.92.138) 185.327 ms 190.211 ms 195.135 ms 9 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.ams1.he.net (72.52.92.82) 210.356 ms 210.849 ms 212.300 ms 10 ams-ix.sara.xs4all.net (195.69.144.48) 216.472 ms 217.969 ms 220.446 ms 11 0.so-1-0-0.xr3.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.5.5) 224.380 ms 226.561 ms 229.305 ms 12 te5-4.swcolo1.3d12.xs4all.net (194.109.12.30) 208.551 ms 172.022 ms 174.125 ms 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Alexander Kobel wrote: Guys, I've been busy the last few weeks and just loosely followed the ongoing discussions about the doc design, but I just recognized you did a great job there! And I like the unobtrusive link coloring... However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the navigation sidebar? On my 13" MacBook (1280x800), there is /plenty/ of space wasted (default font settings in Firefox 3, haven't changed anything). Not sure about other browsers/OSs, and I have no clue if there are screens below 1024 horizontal resolution still in use in a noticeable number, but I guess I'd prefer a little narrower setting in favour of the main text. Just my two pence... I've thought the same. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: choral sample
Laura Harvey wrote:
Hi - I just downloaded lilypond recently, and am interested in trying out a
choral piece. I'm confused about the set-up, though, and none of the samples
that you have on your documentation are specifically for choral works. Do you
have one handy with one or 2 choral parts (separate staves) AND piano?
This is probably overkill but will surely show you everything you want
to do. Compiling with lilypond generates soprano, alto, tenor, and bass
parts, a choral part, a piano reduction part, and various midi parts so
people can listen to their part.
Patrick
Thank you -
Laura Harvey
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#(set-global-staff-size 18)
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filename ="o_magnum_mysterium.ly"
title = "O Magnum Mysterium"
poet ="from Matins of Christmas"
subtitle ="for mixed chorus, a cappella"
instrument = "Four Part Voice"
opus =""
composer ="Tomás Luis de Victoria (1549-1611)"
date = "1572"
mutopiatitle = "O Magnum Mysterium"
mutopiacomposer = "VictoriaTLd"
mutopiapoet = "from Matins of Christmas"
mutopiainstrument = "Voice"
source = "Arista Edition"
style = "Renaissance"
copyright = "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0"
typesetter = "Jeff Covey & Patrick Horgan"
maintainer = "Jeff Covey & Patrick Horgan"
maintainerEmail = "jeff.covey at pobox dot com & patrick at dbp-consulting
dot com"
maintainerWeb = "http://jeffcovey.net/";
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% put 2.10.33 in as version just because 2.11 is development and not out yet.
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\hspace #0.5
}
ââ¬Â¢ \hspace #0.5
\italic Free to download, with the \italic freedom to distribute,
modify and perform.
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Typeset using \with-url #"http://www.LilyPond.org"; \line {
\teeny www. \hspace #-1.0 LilyPond \hspace #-1.0 \teeny .org
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This sheet music has been placed in the public domain by the
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\transpose f e
\key f \minor
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\time 4/4
\compressFullBarRests
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 3
\skip 1*39 \bar "||"
\skip 1*13 \bar "||" \time 3/4
\skip 2.*14 \bar "||" \time 4/4
\skip 1*8 \bar "|."
}
sopranoMelody = \relative c'' {
\clef "violin"
c1 f,2 c' ~ c4 c des des c2 r4
f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des c ~
( c8[ bes aes g aes bes c aes] bes[ aes] aes[ g16 f] g2 ~ g ) f
% 10
a1 bes2 a4. ( bes8 c4 )
des4. ( c8 bes4 ~ bes a ) bes ( aes8 [ g ] f4 ) g aes2
% 15
r4 f' des ees f4. f8 f4 des bes c des4. des8 des4 c4. bes8 bes4 ( ~ bes
a ) bes2
% 20
r1 r4 des4 c4. a8 bes4 c des bes des4. des8 des4 des c2 c
% 25
a4 c c4. c8 c4 d ees2 des?4 ( c8[ bes ] c2 des ) c r1
% 30
r4 f, bes2 aes4 f g ( a ) bes4. ( c8 des!4 ) des c2 r r1
% 35
r4 bes ees2 des4 bes c d ees4. ( des8 [ c bes ] bes4 ~
bes a8 [ g ] a4 ) a bes2 r
% 40
a2. a4 a2 bes a4. ( bes8 c4 des ~ des8 [ c ] c4. bes8 bes4 )
c a2 a4 bes4. bes8 bes2
% 46
r4 bes4. ( c8 [ des bes ] c4 ) f ees2 des4 f ees c
des4. ( c8 [ bes aes ] aes [ g16 f ]
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g4 ) g f c' ~ c aes2 des4 ( ~ des8 [ c ] bes2 a4 )
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bes2 des4 c2 a4 bes4. aes?8 ( [ bes c] ) des4 c2
des2 bes4 aes2 f4 g4. f8 ( [ g aes] )
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bes2 a4 bes2. r4 r ees des4. ( c8 [ des bes ]
c4 ) aes8 ( [ bes c des ] ) ees2 ees4 des4 f2
% 67 back to 4/4 time
f1 r4 f f8 ( [ ees des c ] bes4 ) ees4. ( des8 [ c bes ]
a4 bes2 a4 ) bes1 ~ bes ~ bes
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick McCarty wrote: Okay, I know what the problem is, but the fix is not simple. Our implementation uses a *persistent* and an *alternate* stylesheet, but since we want the alternate stylesheet to override the default stylesheet, many of the default styles should be in a *preferred* stylesheet. An explanation of the three different types is here: I suspected that and was going to look at it later and now I don't have to :O Yea! I'm glad you figured it out. The fun of cascading style sheets, no? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMHO I prefer Patrick's design over Andrew, it's more colorful but still serious enough (as Valentin already wrote), and I second Patrick Horgan comment on links color: maybe we could make links a bit more blue? We might manage to merge both style sheets into one, but let's hurry up if we want this to make it into 2.12.0 ;-) I just made the links *significantly* more blue. I'll keep experimenting. Let me know if this looks better: It looks great--have you figured out why your css doesn't produce underlines with Reinhold's copy of the documentation? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: same pages in a4 and letter
Neil Puttock wrote: ...some stuff elided... This is rather nifty, but you're reinventing the wheel. :) Why not use the built-in option instead, i.e., run with -dpaper-size="letter"? because he wanted to be able to switch back and forth via command line argument without editing the file. Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: showLastLength as a command-line option?
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/9/22 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Would it be possible technically to specify the showLastLength value when invoking lilypond instead of putting it in the .ly file? Something like Yes! Great idea! (my useless post du jour :-) Wow!!! Exceptional response to a great idea! (my contentless reply to your useless post du jour ;-<) regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: same pages in a4 and letter
Graham Percival wrote: I'm preparing my old scores for online publication, but I'm extremely fussy about engraving. I want users on both sides of the Atlantic to be able to print my music easily, but this only works if the music looks in the same in A4 and Letter paper. (having page turns in random places is *not* acceptable to me :) You are the man, simple, clear, well documented internally! A well designed general solution for a problem that has troubled many;) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
John Mandereau wrote: On 2008/09/17, Reinhold Jainhofer wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:50:36 Patrick McCarty wrote: I agree that the language selection should be included in the footer, but I'm not sure how the buildscript will have to be modified. I'm not sure how to move the lanugage menu into the footer: if we do this, it should be as visible as before, e.g. with normal text size (i.e. bigger than the rest of the footer), or with different colors. As soon as we agree on a formatting sample, I'll modify the buildscript accordingly. Currently, the footer looks bad with Patrick's design on the server, because I have not changed the footer to the HTML structure suggested by Patrick. Is everyone okay to change the footer lines to the following? This page is for LilyPond-2.11.59 (development-branch). Your suggestions for the documentation are welcome, please report errors to our bug list. I approve this. I guess you may use usual Graham's ultimatum formula "Unless anybody complains" in such cases. IMHO I prefer Patrick's design over Andrew, it's more colorful but still serious enough (as Valentin already wrote), and I second Patrick Horgan comment on links color: maybe we could make links a bit more blue? And note that the other Patrick reported that his style was supposed to produce underlined links, (and did on his machine). Has anyone looked into why his CSS doesn't produce the desired underlined links? (BTW Green is my favorite color, so of course I like that aspect of Patrick's CSS. Patrick We might manage to merge both style sheets into one, but let's hurry up if we want this to make it into 2.12.0 ;-) Cheers, John ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Thanks for trying it out, Josh! Glad to hear it worked for you on OSX. Patrick has been dealing with the flags, and I don't really understand how to do them, so my very dirty solution would be simply to comment out the last bit of the script that opens the file :). I can see how this would be tiresome if you were running it on a bunch of files. It would be cool to have a -q (quiet) mode that didn't have any output, just quietly did it's work, and never popped up a viewer. Of course it would return a status to tell you if it was successful. Patrick Jon Josh Parmenter wrote: I've been following this, and just tested the latest version on OSX... quite nice guys! Perhaps the -V flag can be set to not open the image after it is done? This utility will be great for mass creating images (as most command line tools are), but having Preview open each one up will get very tiring... perhaps if the is no -V passed in, that step can be skipped? Again - quite nice! Josh ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Josh Parmenter wrote: I've been following this, and just tested the latest version on OSX... quite nice guys! Perhaps the -V flag can be set to not open the image after it is done? This utility will be great for mass creating images (as most command line tools are), but having Preview open each one up will get very tiring... perhaps if the is no -V passed in, that step can be skipped? If you enter -V="" then it will do that. (or just -V= ) Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Mark Knoop wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 17:41 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
Of course if you pick one that eog doesn't know how to display it
will complain.
Perhaps replace eog with xdg-open for better portability?
"xdg-open - opens a file or URL in the user’s preferred application"
I didn't know about that:) I just tried it with -V=xdg-open with a ps
output and a png output and it used evince and eog respectively
automagically;) I changed it so that it sets its default viewer
dynamically from a list, looking for xdg-open, and if not found, eog,
and if not found evince, and if still not found, at the end politely
tells you that it didn't find a viewer and is only generating output.
That makes 1.1.1.1 a very minor release since it didn't change anything
visible to the user;)
Patrick
#!/bin/bash
#*#
# Script for making image files from lilypond source #
# suitable for use as musical examples to insert in a #
# document or web page. #
# Creator - Jonathan Kulp#
# Johnny come lately assistant - Patrick Horgan #
#*#
# Change log
#
# 1.1.1.1 Added search for default list of viewers
# 1.1.1 Added -a, -V and much comments changed default
# viewer to xdg-open
# 1.1 Added checking of return codes so we could
# abort if something failed.
# 1.0 Initial release
#~~
# setformatlist - gets the list of all the things that
# you can convert to
#~~
setformatlist()
{
currentdir=`pwd`# Remember our current directory
examp=`which ppmtojpeg` # find out where the progs are
returnstatus=$?
if [ $returnstatus -eq 0 ] ; then
OUTDIR="`dirname $examp`" #grab the directory
cd $OUTDIR # change to it so we can
# find all the programs starting with ppmto
# and remove the initial part so that we can
# figure out what ppms can be converted to
ppmtos=`ls ppmto* | sed -n s/ppmto//p`
# same for pnmto
pnmtos=`ls pnmto* | sed -n s/pnmto//p`
# Now combine the two, change the space separated
# list into individ line that sort can sort with
# -u to throw away duplicates, then change newlines
# back to spaces so we have a sorted list without
# duplicate of all things we can convert to
alltos=`echo $ppmtos $pnmtos | tr " " "\n" | sort -u | tr "\n" " "`
fi
cd $currentdir # Change back so we don't affect anything
}
#~~
# usage is called when we're called incorrectly.
# it never returns
#~~
usage()
{
echo "Usage: " `basename $0` " [-v] [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename"
echo " -v print version number and quit"
echo " -a about - tell about us and exit"
echo " -t indicates transparency is desired"
echo " -r=Nset resolution to N (usually 72-2000)"
echo " -f=FORMAT set format to FORMAT one of:"
echo "jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp"
echo " -V=viewer set image viewer, examp: -V=evince"
echo " filenamea lilypond file"
exit -1
}
#~~
# about - tell about us and exit
#~~~~~~
about()
{
echo `basename $0`
echo " Creator Jonathan Kulp"
echo " Johnny-come-lately Patrick Horgan"
exit 0
}
#~~
# Set prompt to the prompt you want to give a user
# goodvals to the list of acceptable values
# call getval
# when it returns your value is in outval
#~~
getval()
{
flag="notdone"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
until [ $flag == "done" ] ; do
echo -n $prompt " "
read inval
if [ A$inval == "A" ] ; then
# inval is empty
if [ A$default != 'A' ] ; then
# default is set to something
inval=$default
default=""
else
#inval is empty, no default
echo You must enter a value
index=0
echo -n "Expecting one of : "
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
echo -n "$
Re: png cropping
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Patrick!
It's all working beautifully now.
I must say that you are most awesomely cool. How wonderful to find
someone that digs in in the best linux/Unix tradition and puts together
a string of programs to achieve a desired result. Hats off to you.
... much cool stuff elided...
p.s. now
that we have a tool with a version number, I might try learning how to
write a brief manpage for it. Good idea?
A most excellent idea! manedit is your friend. Complete wysiwyg man
editor. Its help has a complete and easy tutorial. On ubuntu it's
just sudo apt-get install manedit. Since
you're doing that I'm adding a -a (about) with your name and mine, some
more comments so others can modify it more easily, and will call it
version 1.1.1. I also added a -V=viewer, so I could use, for example
evince if the output format was ps. N.B. evince doesn't display
transparency so if you use it with transparent gifs or pngs you might
think the transparency gone, but it's not.
One feature it really needs is an ability to handle the situation
where the output for file.ly is for example, file-page1.png and
file-page2.png. You'd have to get a wildcard list of things that
matched $STEM*.png and loop over them to do the conversions, then
something like $viewer $STEM*.$FORMAT & at the end. That would
make it work as it currently does for most things, there'd just be one
thing in the list, but still work for the case where there's something
there. A generic wildcard is best because someone might have done a
#(define output-suffix "blablabla") and we want to support that case
too. eog will bring up all the pages and let you page up and page down
through them, and evince will bring a a window for each file. There's
enough examples in the script so that you could figure out how to do it
if you would. We could call it 1.1.2;) If you don't have time let me
know and I'll get to it sometime. If you do, change the version in the
script, add to the changelog at the top and send me a copy:) Maybe we
could donate it to the lilypond project.
Patrick
#!/bin/bash
#*#
# Script for making image files from lilypond source #
# suitable for use as musical examples to insert in a #
# document or web page. #
# Creator - Jonathan Kulp#
# Johnny come lately assistant - Patrick Horgan #
#*#
# Change log
#
# 1.1.1 Added -a, -V and much comments
# 1.1 Added checking of return codes so we could
# abort if something failed.
# 1.0 Initial release
#~~
# setformatlist - gets the list of all the things that
# you can convert to
#~~
setformatlist()
{
currentdir=`pwd`# Remember our current directory
examp=`which ppmtojpeg` # find out where the progs are
returnstatus=$?
if [ $returnstatus -eq 0 ] ; then
OUTDIR="`dirname $examp`" #grab the directory
cd $OUTDIR # change to it so we can
# find all the programs starting with ppmto
# and remove the initial part so that we can
# figure out what ppms can be converted to
ppmtos=`ls ppmto* | sed -n s/ppmto//p`
# same for pnmto
pnmtos=`ls pnmto* | sed -n s/pnmto//p`
# Now combine the two, change the space separated
# list into individ line that sort can sort with
# -u to throw away duplicates, then change newlines
# back to spaces so we have a sorted list without
# duplicate of all things we can convert to
alltos=`echo $ppmtos $pnmtos | tr " " "\n" | sort -u | tr "\n" " "`
fi
cd $currentdir # Change back so we don't affect anything
}
#~~
# usage is called when we're called incorrectly.
# it never returns
#~~
usage()
{
echo "Usage: " `basename $0` " [-v] [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename"
echo " -v print version number and quit"
echo " -a about - tell about us and exit"
echo " -t indicates transparency is desired"
echo " -r=Nset resolution to N (usually 72-2000)"
echo " -f=FORMAT set format to FORMAT one of:"
echo "jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp"
echo " -V=viewer set image viewer, examp: -V=evince"
echo " filenamea lilypond file"
exit -1
}
#~~~~~~~~~~
# about -
Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)
Andrew Hawryluk wrote: I just learned that there are a lot of Monet Waterlilies to choose from, so maybe this will be helpful to anyone on the list with graphics skills: With any of the newer browsers you can use pngs with alpha, and take any image and give it much transparency to the point that even with small text there wouldn't be a contrast problem using it as a background. It would be a subtle thing. I'd do it with gimp since I'm an open source guy--but Photoshop can probably do it as well, I suppose...just with less elegance;) Patrick http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Claude_Monet Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bad image with one of the snippets
Graham Percival wrote: Yes, because LSR is still running 2.10. New features won't work anyway. Cheers, - Graham No cheer here, much sadness ensues;( Is there a plan? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Hi Patrick,
I've been running your script trying to use the command-line
arguments, and something's happening with the format argument. I
specify it with an argument, but then I still get prompted for
format. I might not be doing the flag right. I've tried it with
-f=jpeg, -f=JPEG, -fJPEG, and I think that's it. I'll copy the
terminal output below so you can see. On this example I use -fGIF and
while it doesn't make the script fail, it does still ask me for a
format. Am I specifying the format wrong?
it would have to be the same as the input from the command line, i.e.
-f=jpeg or -f=gif---I don't have a clue why it would fail, though with
our weird crossing of versions I don't know which version you're using.
I put a version in this one, and if you specify -v it will tell you the
version and quit. I fixed the defaults as you asked, and put in
defaults for N 72 and png, (and if they pick transparency a default of
png as well). If the command line args still don't work please let me
know. They work here. My experience is that whenever I'm sure I've
tested everything there are still many bugs, so please let me know:)
BTW, in the script I attached to the last email, you'll notice that
with transparent background you have a choice between either png or
gif--it's not forced to png. Is there a way to work this option into
your version?
Yep, fixed.
Patrick
#!/bin/bash
#*#
# Script for making image files from lilypond source #
# suitable for use as musical examples to insert in a #
# document or web page. #
#*#
#~~
# setformatlist - get's the list of all the things that
# you can convert to
#~~
setformatlist()
{
currentdir=`pwd`
examp=`which ppmtojpeg`
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
OUTDIR="`dirname $examp`"
cd $OUTDIR
ppmtos=`ls ppmto* | sed -n s/ppmto//p`
pnmtos=`ls pnmto* | sed -n s/pnmto//p`
alltos=`echo $ppmtos $pnmtos | tr " " "\n" | sort -u | tr "\n" " "`
fi
cd $currentdir
}
#~~
# usage is called when we're called incorrectly.
# it never returns
#~~
usage()
{
echo "Usage: " `basename $0` " [-v] [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename"
echo " -v print version number and quit"
echo " -t indicates transparency is desired"
echo " -r=Nset resolution to N (usually 72-2000)"
echo " -f=FORMAT set format to FORMAT one of:"
echo "jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp"
echo " filenamea lilypond file"
exit -1
}
#~~
# Set prompt to the prompt you want to give a user
# goodvals to the list of acceptable values
# call getval
# when it returns your value is in outval
#~~
getval()
{
flag="notdone"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
until [ $flag == "done" ] ; do
echo -n $prompt " "
read inval
if [ A$inval == "A" ] ; then
if [ A$default != 'A' ] ; then
inval=$default
default=""
else
echo You must enter a value
index=0
echo -n "Expecting one of : "
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
echo -n "${goodvals["$index"]}" " "
let index++
done
echo
fi
fi
if [ A$inval != "A" ] ; then
index=0
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
if [ ${goodvals[$index]} == $inval ] ; then
flag="done"
outval=${goodvals[$index]}
fi
let index++
done
if [ $flag != "done" ] ; then
index=0
echo -n "Expecting one of : "
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
echo -n "${goodvals["$index"]}" " "
let index++
done
echo
fi
fi
done
}
#~~
# Set prompt to the prompt you want to give a user
# call getnumval
# when it returns your value is in outval
#~~
getnumval()
{
flag="notdone"
until [ $flag == "done" ] ; do
echo -n $prompt " "
read inval
if [ A$inval == "A" ] ; then
if [ A$default != 'A' ] ; then
inval=$default
default=""
else
echo You must enter a value, expecting a posi
Re: Bad image with one of the snippets
Neil Puttock wrote: This snippet is version specific to 2.11; it shouldn't really be in LSR, Does that imply that there's not supposed to be any snippets to show how to do the new 2.11 stuff? Patrick but was added so it can be used in the docs. Unfortunately, some of the properties it uses don't have direct equivalents in 2.10 (e.g. 'break-align-anchor-alignment), so it's tricky to match the desired behaviour. I've had a fiddle with it, but it's really a lost cause without altering it significantly. Valentin, I'll add this to input/new shortly. Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Alright, this is probably my last version. It now checks the input
for format against all the available conversions (found by looking for
all the programs in the filesystem that start with ppmto and pnmto) and
if you didn't pick one, gives you all the choices!
Enter desired output format (jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp) ... : fooburger
Expecting one of : acad bmp ddif eyuv fiasco fits gif icr ilbm jpeg
leaf lj lss16 map
mitsu mpeg neo palm pcx pgm pi1 pict pj plainpnm png ps puzz rast
rgb3 rle sgi sir
sixel tga tiff tiffcmyk uil winicon xpm xwd yuv yuvsplit
Enter desired output format (jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp) ... : tiffcmyk
Of course if you pick one that eog doesn't know how to display it
will complain. If you pick one that requires extra command line
argument, it will complain. If you comment out the line that removes ps
and select ps as the format type, then look at the resultant postscript
file with a postscript viewer, it's rotated 90 degrees! Cool:) That
looks like a bug in pnmtops. It's a shame that pnmtotiff doesn't have a
-transparent argument since tiff supports transparency.
I also fixed a problem where the validation routines would go crazy
if you just hit enter when prompted for input. Also made it not prompt
for transparency if you already specified a format on the command line
that doesn't support it, and conversely if you asked for transparency on
the command line and specified a format that doesn't support it, notes
your user error and asks you to pick gif or png.
Thanks for inspiring me Jonathan. I'd like to make clear that all
of this script that does any useful work is Jonathan's original script.
My parts just validate input and add command line arguments. I've
developed some general purpose routines for this script that I've wished
to have for a long time and will reuse often.:)
I can't believe I spent most of my day on this !
Patrick
#!/bin/bash
#*#
# Script for making image files from lilypond source #
# suitable for use as musical examples to insert in a #
# document or web page. #
#*#
#~~
# setformatlist - get's the list of all the things that
# you can convert to
#~~
setformatlist()
{
currentdir=`pwd`
examp=`which ppmtojpeg`
echo $examp
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
OUTDIR="`dirname $examp`"
cd $OUTDIR
ppmtos=`ls ppmto* | sed -n s/ppmto//p`
pnmtos=`ls pnmto* | sed -n s/pnmto//p`
alltos=`echo $ppmtos $pnmtos | tr " " "\n" | sort -u | tr "\n" " "`
fi
cd $currentdir
}
#~~
# usage is called when we're called incorrectly.
# it never returns
#~~
usage()
{
echo "Usage: " $0 " [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename"
echo " -t indicates transparency is desired"
echo " -r=Nset resolution to N (usually 72-2000)"
echo " -f=FORMAT set format to FORMAT one of:"
echo "jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp"
echo " filenamea lilypond file"
exit -1
}
#~~
# Set prompt to the prompt you want to give a user
# goodvals to the list of acceptable values
# call getval
# when it returns your value is in outval
#~~
getval()
{
flag="notdone"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
until [ $flag == "done" ] ; do
echo -n $prompt " "
read inval
if [ A$inval == "A" ] ; then
echo You must enter a value
index=0
echo -n "Expecting one of : "
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
echo -n "${goodvals["$index"]}" " "
let index++
done
echo
else
index=0
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
if [ ${goodvals[$index]} == $inval ] ; then
flag="done"
outval=${goodvals[$index]}
fi
let index++
done
if [ $flag != "done" ] ; then
index=0
echo -n "Expecting one of : "
while [ "$index" -lt "$elementcount" ] ; do
echo -n "${goodvals["$index"]}" " "
let index++
done
echo
fi
fi
done
}
#~~
# Set prompt to the prompt you want to give a user
# call getnumval
# when it returns your value is in outval
#~~
getnumval()
{
flag=
Re: png cropping
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Ok I
changed a couple of things to make it even more flexible. I changed
pnmto__ to ppmto__, giving quite a few more output options. I've
suggested a few in the script. Also added an option to choose either
gif or png when choosing transparent background. this is fun :)
Jonathan, on my system there's no ppmtopng or ppmtotiff and ppmtojpeg
is a link to pnmtojpeg. This is with Hardy Ubuntu and a fresh install
of the utils. Annoying, no? It makes the changes to your script break
on my machine.
I've found that creating symbolic links in /usr/bin like:
ln -s pnmtopng ppmtopng
ln -s pnmtotiff ppmtotiff
fixes the problem, but why wouldn't that have been done automagically?
I removed the netpbm package and it didn't remove my links, so they're
really not part of the package. Maybe I should file a bug against the
package. It does reinstall the link from ppmtojpeg to pnmtojpeg when I
reinstall it. How is it set up on your system?
It seems like to be bulletproof, the script needs to check and see
which of ppmto$FORMAT and pnmto$FORMAT exists and use that, that's easy
to do with which, it already has all the code to look through your PATH.
I'm attaching a new version of my version of your script with that
change and a new routine, getval, that validates input, you use it
like:
prompt= "Enter desired output format (jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp): "
goodvals=("jpeg" "png" "tiff" "gif" "pcx" "bmp")
getval
FORMAT=$outval
If the user enters something that's not on the goodvals list, for
example joe, it reprompts them after telling them what they might have
entered:
Enter desired output format (jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp): joe
Expecting one of : jpeg png tiff gif pcx bmp
Enter desired output format (jpeg, png, tiff, gif, pcx, bmp):
Cool, no? I suppose I should add validation to the command line
arguments as well.
Ok, just did that, resolution checked for numeric both on input and
from the command line, format checked for one of the allowable things,
and check to make sure there's a filename, and print meaningful error
message and a usage statement. Try it and see if it works for you.
I'm almost tempted to check for all the pnmto and ppmto and
automatically build the list of allowed types instead of hard coding
them--nah, I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader;) It really
needs to be done with my version because I only let people use what's
on the list:( Yours will just work as long as it's a valid format.
You could grab the outcmd part of my version of your script. It
automagically picks either ppmto or pnmto and exits with an error if
neither are found.
I also check for the existence of pnmtojpeg and abort the script if
not found with
a message that the netpbm utilities have to be installed to use the
script.
Now the script is much larger because of all the checking.
Patrick
Jon
script attached this time...
Patrick Horgan wrote:
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
I'm guessing that one of the netpbm tools
will handle transparency, it's just a matter of figuring out which
one. Didn't this come up on a recent thread? I seem to remember
trying it out on something and getting a transparent background. When
I get some time later I'll look into it. It would be simple enough to
add a prompt asking if you'd like a transparent background, I guess.
Now that you mention it that rings a bell with me too! I'll have to
search---
giftoppm foobar.gif | ppmtogif -transparent '#rgb' > fooquux.gif
works if you want gif. First translate to ppm, then translate back to
gif with the -transparent flag specifying which color, (in this case
#fff) will be transparent.
pnmtopng has the transparent argument, but pnmtotiff and jpeg don't
since they don't support transparency...so, using your script, if you
want transparency, you have to choose png for the output, then on the
translation step from ppm just add the appropriate flags. I just tried
it adding a quick -transparent '#ff' to the command line and then
selecting png so it would work. It worked like a charm:)
#!/bin/bash
#*#
# Script for making image files from lilypond source #
# suitable for use as musical examples to insert in a #
# document or web page. #
#*#
#~~
# usage is called when we're called incorrectly.
# it never returns
#~~
usage()
{
echo "Usage: " $0 " [-t] [-rN] [-fFORMAT] filename"
echo " -t indicates
Bad image with one of the snippets
In snippet no. 433 the Rehearsal Marks don't have the alignment you might expect. Grabbing down the snippet and compiling it with the current lilypond works fine and produces the desired result, but in the image in the snippet, the alignment of the rehearsal marks never move. It made it quite confusing when I looked at it. Could someone generate a correct image for it? Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: png cropping
Neil Puttock wrote: Hi Jon, 2008/9/17 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm guessing that one of the netpbm tools will handle transparency, it's just a matter of figuring out which one. Didn't this come up on a recent thread? I seem to remember trying it out on something and getting a transparent background. When I get some time later I'll look into it. It would be simple enough to add a prompt asking if you'd like a transparent background, I guess. >From the command line: -dpixmap-format=pngalpha In a .ly file: #(ly:set-option 'pixmap-format "pngalpha") There must be more than this--I don't get any .png file when I use this option. Only postscript and pdf. Patricki Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
