Re: embed lilypond into godot application

[Stjepan Horvat]

This is what i have made so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qOBSXolpbs

The good idea about Godot is that you can create cross-platform
applications. My target platforms are Linux and Android.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:14 PM Jean Abou Samra  wrote:

> Le mercredi 26 juillet 2023 à 01:54 +1000, Andrew Bernard a écrit :
>
> What is godot, if I may ask?
>
>
> Presumably this thing?
>
> https://godotengine.org/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godot_(game_engine)
>
>

Re: embed lilypond into godot application

[Stjepan Horvat]

Thank you. This was exactly what i needed.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 10:30 Jean Abou Samra  wrote:

> Le lundi 24 juillet 2023 à 10:09 +0200, Stjepan Horvat a écrit :
>
> Hi guys,
> I'm trying to embed lilypond score into simple godot application which
> would follow music.
> One idea that comes to mind would be to have a single svg/png image and
> have positions (pixels) of each bar.
> Another idea would be to export each bar separately and then show
> corresponding bar when required. Or I could export each bar separately
> and then join them into single image which would give me bar positions.
>
> I didn't find a solution for for either.
> Is there a simple way to export the lilypond score as i require. Or do you
> have another idea?
> I remember that few years ago someone created a web application which
> follows lilypond score but could not find it.
>
>
>
> Check out ly2video, especially the code here:
>
> https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video/blob/master/ly2video/cli.py#L1322
>
> You may also want to look at the -dclip-systems option.
>
>
>

embed lilypond into godot application

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hi guys,
I'm trying to embed lilypond score into simple godot application which
would follow music.
One idea that comes to mind would be to have a single svg/png image and
have positions (pixels) of each bar.
Another idea would be to export each bar separately and then show
corresponding bar when required. Or I could export each bar separately and
then join them into single image which would give me bar positions.

I didn't find a solution for for either.
Is there a simple way to export the lilypond score as i require. Or do you
have another idea?
I remember that few years ago someone created a web application which
follows lilypond score but could not find it.

Thanks

Re: Introducing Hacklily, another online LilyPond editor

[Stjepan Horvat]

Its very nice and very cool tool for inserting notation for users from
musescore.

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On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Karlin High  wrote:

> On 1/3/2018 1:51 PM, Knute Snortum wrote:
>
>> I finally figured out how to use the tool.
>>
>
> It reminds me a little of my experiences with MuseScore.
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Re: [ANN] LilyQuick 0.94beta - Quick note Lilypond entry using MIDI for Linux

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​cool app.
Thanks​
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Re: rehersal markup in same level with chords

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i hope this is not too much code :)


\version "2.19.60"
%default, ugly
<<
\new ChordNames \chordmode { c4 f a c }

\new Staff \with {
  instrumentName = #"default "
}
  {
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
  \mark \default
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
}
>>
%with spaceing and better
<<
\new ChordNames \chordmode { c4 f a c }

\new Staff \with {
  instrumentName = #"more space"
}
  {
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
  \once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #'(-3 . 3)
  \mark \default
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
}
>>

%here is where i would want it to be in level with chords
<<
\new ChordNames \chordmode { c4 f a c }

\new Staff \with {
  instrumentName = #"two low"
}
  {
  c''' d'' e'' f'' |
  \once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #'(-3 . 3)
  \mark \default
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
}
>>

%here is where i do it manualy every time i change something
<<
\new ChordNames \chordmode { c4 f a c }

\new Staff \with {
  instrumentName = #"manual"
}
  {
  c''' d'' e'' f'' |
  \once \override Score.RehearsalMark.Y-offset = #5 % this is what i would
want to se up automaticly
  \once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-spacing-width = #'(-3 . 3)
  \mark \default
  c'' d'' e'' f'' |
}
>>


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rehersal markup in same level with chords

[Stjepan Horvat]

hi guys..
when i write notes in some lines my chords move up depending on how high my
notes go..
then my rehersal markup moves randomly so i can't make a fix offset to be
always in the same level..

is it possible to use something like \once \override
Score.RehearsalMark.Y-offset = last or next chords bottom left position..?


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Re: simulating handwritten font

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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> wrote:

>
>
> Am 08.05.2017 um 15:11 schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
>
>
>
> *Nesmotren govori kao da mačem probada, a jezik je mudrih iscjeljenje.
> Izreke 12:18*
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 08.05.2017 um 14:19 schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
>>
>> hi guys..
>> i'm playing with music font as discribed here:
>>
>> http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/smufl-fonts-in-lilypond/
>> http://lilypondblog.org/2014/09/lilyponds-look-and-feel/
>>
>> what i would want to try doing is simulating handwritten font by adding 4
>> or more shapes of same object.
>>
>>
>> Do you want to prepare an actual font to use instead of Emmentaler, for
>> notation (i.e. not text)?
>>
>> ​
> Yes! I have already started working on it and have figure it out how to
> change the existing font.​
>
>
>> what would you suggest to accomplish this?
>>
>>
>>
>> my raw idea is to add diferent signs in normal, italic, bold, bold-italic
>> combination and then on each new object iterate though there combination.
>> This has a limitation of only 4 combinations.
>>
>> Another idea is to add a list of fonts and there go through them.
>>
>>
>> If you want to create a custom font you could probably override the
>> stencil of the different grobs and replace them with a markup (I think
>> that's what is described in these posts, isn't it?). Then you can place an
>> arbitrary number of additional glyphs in that font and write a function
>> that, say, for a whole note notehead picks a random glyph out of the one at
>> the regular postion and the range of custom glyphs.
>>
>> ​What do you mean a range of custom glyphs. Where would that be? In a
> font file?​
>
>
>
> In your custom font file. If you want to modify an existing font you will
> edit it in some editor (or did I misunderstand you and you are talking
> about modifying LilyPond's Metafont sources to build a modified Emmentaler?)
> You will change existing glyphs, but the font has lots of empty spaces for
> additional glyphs that are not normally used by LilyPond. There you can add
> glyphs and access them manually from LilyPond. But others know much more
> about this than I do.
>
> Ok. I want to modify and existing font. I tryed https://birdfont.org/ and
it looks quite ok for this purpose.​
What now comes to my mind is to use some kind of numerical offset. For
example for notehead which is for example nr. 40 offset would be 100..then
other note heads would ne 140, 240, 340 and so on.
I dont know if it is possible to have accsess in this manner.



> Best
> Urs
>
>
> Do you have any idea how to implement this in sheme?
>> A snippet would be very helpfull.
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I can't (and don't have the time to look into it). But if you
>> clarify your intention I think it should not be too difficult and there
>> should be people around who can help you.
>>
>> Urs
>>
>> ​Thanks for your fast response.​
>
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: simulating handwritten font

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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> wrote:

>
>
> Am 08.05.2017 um 14:19 schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
>
> hi guys..
> i'm playing with music font as discribed here:
>
> http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/smufl-fonts-in-lilypond/
> http://lilypondblog.org/2014/09/lilyponds-look-and-feel/
>
> what i would want to try doing is simulating handwritten font by adding 4
> or more shapes of same object.
>
>
> Do you want to prepare an actual font to use instead of Emmentaler, for
> notation (i.e. not text)?
>
> ​
Yes! I have already started working on it and have figure it out how to
change the existing font.​


> what would you suggest to accomplish this?
>
>
>
> my raw idea is to add diferent signs in normal, italic, bold, bold-italic
> combination and then on each new object iterate though there combination.
> This has a limitation of only 4 combinations.
>
> Another idea is to add a list of fonts and there go through them.
>
>
> If you want to create a custom font you could probably override the
> stencil of the different grobs and replace them with a markup (I think
> that's what is described in these posts, isn't it?). Then you can place an
> arbitrary number of additional glyphs in that font and write a function
> that, say, for a whole note notehead picks a random glyph out of the one at
> the regular postion and the range of custom glyphs.
>
> ​What do you mean a range of custom glyphs. Where would that be? In a font
file?​


> Do you have any idea how to implement this in sheme?
> A snippet would be very helpfull.
>
>
> Sorry, I can't (and don't have the time to look into it). But if you
> clarify your intention I think it should not be too difficult and there
> should be people around who can help you.
>
> Urs
>
> ​Thanks for your fast response.​


>
> Thanks.
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simulating handwritten font

[Stjepan Horvat]

hi guys..
i'm playing with music font as discribed here:

http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/smufl-fonts-in-lilypond/
http://lilypondblog.org/2014/09/lilyponds-look-and-feel/

what i would want to try doing is simulating handwritten font by adding 4
or more shapes of same object.
what would you suggest to accomplish this?

my raw idea is to add diferent signs in normal, italic, bold, bold-italic
combination and then on each new object iterate though there combination.
This has a limitation of only 4 combinations.

Another idea is to add a list of fonts and there go through them.

Do you have any idea how to implement this in sheme?
A snippet would be very helpfull.

Thanks.



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Re: replace musical symbols

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Thanks!

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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Simon Albrecht <simon.albre...@mail.de>
wrote:

> Am 03.05.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
>
>> Hi guys.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to replace musical elements like
>> noteheads (1, 4)
>> clef
>> accidentals (sharp, flat)
>>
>> with svg or eps elements?
>> with override or tweak?
>>
>> without creating new font.
>>
>
> It would seem your best bet is creating a style sheet, which in a \layout
> expression overrides the stencil expression of grobs. That way you can use
> the markup command \epsfile, turn the markup into a stencil using
> grob-interpret-markup and apply that to the grob, maybe also with callbacks.
> But it would help to have a concrete example of your use case.
>
> Best, Simon
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Re: Midiimport für Lilypond/Frescobaldi

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For this purpose i would rather:
1. Record my staff in DAW (bitwig). Edit and Quantize (start-s and ends).
When you are satisfied with what you hear export as midi.
2. Import your midi file in musescore and look for something that is
unusual in sheet music. Make music rythmic beautiful.
3. Export as musicxml and convert musicxml2ly.
4. Edit converted music with frescobaldi. Adding header, paper, staff,
transpositions and whatever is needed.

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On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Bernhard Kleine 
wrote:

> No, I want to know whether there are faster methods to code sheet musik:
> for example by playing the tune on a midi keyboard voice for voice and
> incorporating this voices in a choir sheet.
>
> Then I would like to control my work by listening to the play and not by
> reading the partiture.
>
> Bernhard
>
> Am 29.04.2017 um 18:47 schrieb Knute Snortum:
>
> Can I ask a dumb question?  Are you just trying to play the music you just
> entered in LilyPond?  Have you tried double-clicking on the .mid file from
> a File Explorer window?  Often the default MIDI player will execute.  Or,
> in Frescobaldi, there is a MIDI Player window which you can open via the
> Tools menu.  You may also have to configure MIDI via the Edit ->
> Preferences -> MIDI Settings window.
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MMA using lilypond syntax/style

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hi guys..
The other day i was trying to practice jazz improvisation on linux.
I was searching for a simple/fast working software that would help me
practice.
I found about MMA and it is cool - text based, midi output/export

but

it wasn't so clean regarding musicly writing speaking.
So i had this tought.
Lilypond has a great syntax and has also midi output/export.
Has somebody tried doing something with it?

I onced tried to write a complete pop song with lilypond and I was literally
sweating.
Idea behind the MMA is great.
When you write a groove you define the drum parts, groove.
And then you say use this groove. For example:

use 44
Tempo 120

Groove Main
1 Gsus/C G/B
2 Gm/Bb Ab
3 C/E Eb
Groove Fill
4 Cm Dm G@2.5

Has someone use a combination of variables and scheme to do such a thing?
What do you think about the idea?
Stef
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Re: Anyone in Vorarlberg?

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hej..i will be in Schladming..:) Its in Autria too but on diferent sides..

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 I'll be in Hohenems from Thursday to Sunday this week.

 If anyone is around I'd be happy about a chat.
 And maybe to see anyone at one of the nowadays rare occasions performing
 publicly.
 Albeit not in the main concert programme I'll appear twice at the
 Schubertiade Hohenems (at least partially playing from LilyPond sheet music
 ;-.) ) playing and discussing Schubert songs with Julian and Christoph
 Prégardien.

 Urs


 http://www.schubertiade.at/produktionen/festakt-zum-50-jaehrigen-bestehen-der-neuen-schubert-ausgabe.html/ID_Vorstellung=2317m=140

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Re: Help please with alternate jazz chord naming system

[Stjepan Horvat]

This is the site
https://sites.google.com/site/jpgzic/home/ver-2-14

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Peter Teeson peter.tee...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Hi Tim:
 On 2015-03-09, at 2:53 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:

 There is also the pop-chords.ly file that can be used for chord names and
 I am working on modifying the same file to follow the Roemer chord name
 conventions which I will make available when done.

 Have you finished the Brandt Roemer conventions or is it still a wip?

  It appears that the OP would like Real Book style chord names; the
 pop-chords.ly file is easily modified.  It may be in the Lilypond snippet
 repository.  If not I can send a copy to the OP.

 I am the OP grin. In fact I have both a C Edition Ultimate Jazz
 Fakebook published by Hal Leonard 1988/
 this is a typeset book and was good for gigs.

 I also have a Real book which was given to me. Don't like the font but
 the chord changes are OK.

 respect…

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Re: Lilypond, Linux (Fedora) and Vim

[Stjepan Horvat]

I use archlinux and its very cool couse of AUR user reposatory..U can
install frescobaldi from it or apps directly from git..I use vim too.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@philiprhoades.org
wrote:

 Kevin,


 On 2015-02-13 18:54, Kevin Tough wrote:

 Once again my favorite linux OS Fedora is giving me  some problems. The
 implementation of Lilypond with Vim is good. Packaged with Lilypond
 2.18.2 the software is reasonably up to date. Networking with Fedora has
 recently given me problems with one notebook no longer making it's wired
 connection.
 I'd be grateful for a few suggestions of worthy OS alternatives in the
 linux world that also implement Lilypond. My searches some months ago
 surprised me that Lilypond standard implementation by many Linix
 flavours was not so up to date.



 I too use these tools although I have not been making much use of Lilypond
 recently due to other demands.  I am currently using F21 and would be happy
 to try and replicate your problems and maybe help find a solution if you
 like . .

 Regards,

 Phil.


  Namaste,
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Re: point and click in gvim

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Try reading this https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly
maybe it helps..
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Re: SCORE creator Leland Smith passed away

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​thanks..
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Re: string-number scheme

[Stjepan Horvat]

ok..

i would want to insert the tempo one time..inside the header block..and
that it would apply to other tempo variables..

\header {
bpm = 123
}

\relative c' {
  \tempo = \bpm %the header bpm variable
 c'4
}

till now i didnt create any scheme function successfully..:P


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 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  header won't display numbers..i'm using lastest development version..

 [unedited useless fullquote below deleted]

 Please try harder to explain the problem, preferably with a minimal
 example, or at the very least responding to the individual suggestions
 with the details of why they don't work for you.

 When someone goes to the pain of writing up an elaborate answer with
 details for each cited problem, the above one-line reply does not
 suggest you are taking this seriously.

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Re: string-number scheme

[Stjepan Horvat]

Try putting bpm = \tempo 4 = 123 in the header..


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  So..any idea how i could achive it..?! I wanted to use my little
 knowlidge
  to write a simple scheme function that could achive it..with no
 succsess..

 You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the
 bottom of
 URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html
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Re: string-number scheme

[Stjepan Horvat]

Ok..and Thank You..


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.comwrote:

 So, to answer David's question:

 2013/11/13 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
  You could start by explaining what is wrong with the solution at the
  bottom of
  URL:
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-11/msg00456.html.

 This is not doing what Stjepan wants because he cannot use \bpm as a
 value for a header field.

 See this bug:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3658
 I believe that to solve Stjepan's problem we'd have to solve this bug.

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Re: RhythmicStaff followed by Staff in the same score block

[Stjepan Horvat]

Yes i did understund that..and i used it quite well..

what i wanted to do was:

\score {

\new ChordNames { c1 }
\new RhythmicStaff { s1 }
\new Lyrics { \lyricmode { What8 a ni -- ce day2 } }

\layout {}
}

\score {

\new ChordNames { g1 }
\new Staff { c'4 d' e' f' }
\addlyrics { It's a ni -- ce }

\layout {}
}

to be in a same score block..so i dont wast paper with empty staff..
i will try something out combing difrenet barlines..

On 10/28/2013 06:26 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote:

Stjepan Horvat wrote Monday, October 28, 2013 4:38 PM



Hi guys..Is this possible..
I'm dealing with speaking music which has chords and duration..something
like poetry over music..and afterwords singing parts..
i know that i can separate score blocks but it would be better if it
could be in the same..then i wouldnt have problems with bar numbers and
\mark \default staff..
thanks..

Possible, but can be tricky.  See

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/opera-and-stage-musicals#dialogue-over-music

for a starting point.

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RhythmicStaff followed by Staff in the same score block

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hi guys..Is this possible..
I'm dealing with speaking music which has chords and duration..something 
like poetry over music..and afterwords singing parts..
i know that i can separate score blocks but it would be better if it 
could be in the same..then i wouldnt have problems with bar numbers and 
\mark \default staff..

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shiftDuration and partial

[Stjepan Horvat]

hi guys..di you realize that shiftDuration doesn't convert the partial
part..?!
is this a bug?

for example:

\shiftDuration #1 #0 { c4 d e f } - c8 d e f
but \shiftDuration #1 #0 { \partial 4 c4 d e f } - c8 d | f g

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split duration when changing time signature

[Stjepan Horvat]

is there a way to split duration of long notes when chaning time signature:

\time 4/4
c1

to

\time 2/4
c2 ~ c2

i'm intrested in the output?

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Re: split duration when changing time signature

[Stjepan Horvat]

Marek,
i tryed your sugestion and get
warning: rhythmic head is not part of a rhythmic column.
do you have any clue?

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-06-05 at 10:23 +0200, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
 is there a way to split duration of long notes when chaning time signature:

 \time 4/4
 c1

 to

 \time 2/4
 c2 ~ c2

 i'm intrested in the output?

 There is a command in Denemo to do this, but import from LilyPond into
 Denemo is still in a very primitive state, so this is not of interest if
 you already have spent a lot of time inputting the music...
 Perhaps Frescobaldi can offer something?

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Re: split duration when changing time signature

[Stjepan Horvat]

I found the problem. I used \new Staff instead of \new Voice.

\version 2.16.2
\new Staff \with {
  \remove Note_heads_engraver
  \consists Completion_heads_engraver
  \remove Rest_engraver
  \consists Completion_rest_engraver
} {
\time 2/4 c1
} }


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk wrote:
 Hello Stjepan,


 2013/6/5 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com

 Marek,
 i tryed your sugestion and get
 warning: rhythmic head is not part of a rhythmic column.
 do you have any clue?


 Try to post minimal example demonstrating your problem
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Re: vim fix indent

[Stjepan Horvat]

BUMP!

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com wrote:
 is there a way to fix indent in vim..i tryed gg=G but it looks mesed up..
 i like frescobaldis way of fixing it..is there a problem in my setup
 or something else..?!

 example:
 it tries to indent comments and then my variables are not on the ^ of
 the line but i don't know elsewhere..

 or
 myScore = {
   \key h \major
 \mark \default %verse
 ...
 }

 my first line in the variable has 2 tabstops and all others 4..

 my .vimrc has:
 syntax on
 filetype plugin off
 set runtimepath+=/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.16.2/vim/
 filetype plugin on
 set tabstop=2
 set shiftwidth=2
 set softtabstop=2

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vim fix indent

[Stjepan Horvat]

is there a way to fix indent in vim..i tryed gg=G but it looks mesed up..
i like frescobaldis way of fixing it..is there a problem in my setup
or something else..?!

example:
it tries to indent comments and then my variables are not on the ^ of
the line but i don't know elsewhere..

or
myScore = {
  \key h \major
\mark \default %verse
...
}

my first line in the variable has 2 tabstops and all others 4..

my .vimrc has:
syntax on
filetype plugin off
set runtimepath+=/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.16.2/vim/
filetype plugin on
set tabstop=2
set shiftwidth=2
set softtabstop=2

thanks..

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Re: Bravura - new font...

[Stjepan Horvat]

Aha this is the way into the new steinbergs music engraving sistem.

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Michael Rivers michaeljriv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I saw that too. It's bolder and more engraved looking than the other
 commercial music fonts, at least. I don't know what to think about the new
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Re: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013

[Stjepan Horvat]

Thanks florian..:)

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Florian Hollerweger 
fhollerwege...@qub.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Phil,


 Phil Holmes wrote:

 You'll no doubt be aware that we have a list of papers published on
 LilyPond at:

 http://lilypond.org/**publications.htmlhttp://lilypond.org/publications.html

 Would you be happy for your slides to be added to this?


 No problem at all!

 Feel free to either link to the .tgz on the lac.linuxaudio.org site (that
 stuff should stay there for quite a while) or to download the archive and
 host your own copy on lilypond.org.

 Best,
 Florian



 Phil Holmes wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Florian Hollerweger 
 fhollerwege...@qub.ac.uk
 To: Lilypond User List lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:27 PM
 Subject: Files from Lilypond workshop @ LAC 2013


  Hi all,

 Margarethe Maierhofer-Lischka and I have given a Lilypond workshop at
 the Linux Audio Conference 2013, which has just taken place in Graz,
 Austria.

 The workshop slides and accompanying .ly examples are available in the
 following archive:

  
 http://lac.linuxaudio.org/**2013/download/lilypond_**lac2013.tgzhttp://lac.linuxaudio.org/2013/download/lilypond_lac2013.tgz

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Re: scheme function help

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I did not mean to criticize anyone but to learn how to use the software
completely. And that was my fault as I did not watch which documentation I
read, ie the version. I'm sorry. I think lilypond has a great community and
i did't have to wait more that 12h to get at least a response. This is very
fast in my opinion. Meny people care and i appreciated that. But to start
for scratch is hard and help is always encouraging.

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk writes:

  This conversation is throwing much light on the difficulty that even
  the computer literate face when trying to learn the Lilypond
  Scheme interface.

 By using documentation from 5 years ago with a current version of
 LilyPond.  Preceding my work on usability.

 I don't consider it fair to judge LilyPond and the work that has been
 invested into it in that area on that base.

  In this case the simple addition of a mark is seen to be very complex
  with procedures and arguments that are counter intuitive (or at least
  nowhere near intuitive). Nor are they and their uses fully defined in
  the manuals (I'm sure it is obvious to a developer but confusing to an
  outsider).

 Get real.  define-music-function is explained pretty well, and the
 function is

 addmarkup =
 #(define-markup-function (parser location mark music)
   (markup? ly:music?)
   #{ \mark #mark #music #})

 which is a dead-simple wrapper not really involving any Scheme
 programming, and the obvious way to do this once you have read the
 documentation.  If you also want to allow for
 \addmarkup \default { c'd' e' f' }, this becomes

 #(define-markup-function (parser location mark music)
   ((markup?) ly:music?)
   (if mark
  #{ \mark #mark #music #}
  #{ \mark \default #music #}))

 which is more intricate but still a very basic wrapper once you bother
 looking up \default and/or optional function arguments.

  Secondly there are apparently several ways to skin the cat and
  contexts that are not immediately obvious.

 If you try doing things in a complex manner unnecessarily, possibly
 triggered by very old documentation, you can expect complex problems.

  Guidance at the gateway would be a very productive way to spread the
  use of Lilypond beyond highly qualified developers into the more
  mundane world of the everyday user.

 So what do you think I have been doing for the last two years?

  None of this is criticism of the project which is a remarkable
  achievment - more a cry from the wilderness for a helping hand to
  newcomers. Actually not so much a helping hand more an appreciation of
  the misconceptions and misunderstandings that plague the tyro.

 Try starting with the documentation corresponding to the version you are
 using.  The above examples are for the current version, but 2.16 works
 almost the same except for requiring $music instead of #music in the
 expressions.

 And yes, the documentation goes to a lot of effort in order to explain
 the details.  And yes, this was awfully documented and awful to use in
 2.12, the documentation that the original poster chose to consult.

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Re: scheme function help

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Ok..thanks Madoka..
It wasn't to me clear where i have to use the display-scheme-music function
= in lilypond scheme-sandbox..and that it had to be music..ok..that is now
clear..

but your function does not work for me:
i get this
(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music (quote Music) (quote error-found) #t)
(make-music (quote Music) (quote error-found) #t)
(make-music (quote Music) (quote error-found) #t)
(make-music
  'NoteEvent.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Madoka Machitani madok...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Let me first point out that you have to remember object type matters.
 ly:music-property expects music object, not pitch object or anything else,
 so you have to
 give a music object to it, like this:

 (display-scheme-music
  (car (ly:music-property #{ \mark A c'4 #}
  'elements)))

 which gives
 (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)


 Now, is it correct to assume you are trying to achieve something like this?
 \insMark a musical-sequence

 If so, the function would be:

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
  (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
(ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
mus)

 This is a crude example and won't work with single note events like c'4

 example:
 \displayMusic \insMark A { c'4 }
 =
 (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
 (make-music
   'NoteEvent
   'duration
   (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
   'pitch
   (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0


 BTW, have you read the extending manuagl?
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/extending/



 On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm trying to figure out how and learn to create a function based on a
 \displayMusic function.
 for example:
 \displayMusic { \mark A c'4 }
 gives me
 (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
 (make-music
   'NoteEvent
   'duration
   (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
   'pitch
   (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

 so what i have gotten so far is that there is new (make-music (quote
 MarkEvent) (quote label) A) or (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label A) in
 front of c'
 and i don't know how to put this line into it. I understand that i have
 to use cons on 'elements to put the line in front of c.
 Is there a way to figure out what elements do i have to use in my
 function to work.
 I'm going through
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Music-properties#Music-propertiesto
  get an idea of how to get into it but #(display-scheme-music (first
 (ly:music-property someNote 'elements))) doesn't work. I get an error
 saying:
 Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting Music): #Pitch c'  with
 someNote = c'.
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Re: scheme function help

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I'm using GNU LilyPond 2.16.2 and Guile 1.8.8
I found out the error

insMark =
#(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
  (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
  (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
mus)

\displayMusic { \insMark A c'4 }
%\displayMusic \insMark { A c'4 } %tryed that too
%\relative c' { \insMark A c'4 } %that too

after insMark =* was a strange invisible character with code 160, Hex 00a0,
Octal 240 and becouse of that it wouldn't want to pass..

from http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-08/msg00383.html
no-break space from unicode.
 (to make it worse, this character code is displayed as space by most
 text editors).

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Madoka Machitani madok...@gmail.com writes:

  Now, is it correct to assume you are trying to achieve something like
  this?  \insMark a musical-sequence
 
  If so, the function would be:
 
  insMark =
  #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
 (markup? ly:music?)
 (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
 (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)
 
  This is a crude example and won't work with single note events like c'4

 Why wouldn't you do

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
#{ \mark #mark #mus #})

 instead?  Note that depending on the version, #mark and/or #mus might
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Re: scheme function help

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When i do this
insMark =
#(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
  (markup? ly:music?)
  (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
   (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)

\displayMusic { \insMark A c'4 }

(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music
  'NoteEvent
  'elements
  (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A))
  'duration
  (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
  'pitch
  (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

The mark goes inside note-event element and it is not shown.

and it should be like that

(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
(make-music
  'NoteEvent
  'duration
  (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
  'pitch
  (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

and David yours makes

(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
(make-music
  'NoteEvent
  'duration
  (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
  'pitch
  (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0))


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm using GNU LilyPond 2.16.2 and Guile 1.8.8
 I found out the error

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
 (markup? ly:music?)
 (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
   (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)

 \displayMusic { \insMark A c'4 }
 %\displayMusic \insMark { A c'4 } %tryed that too
 %\relative c' { \insMark A c'4 } %that too

 after insMark =* was a strange invisible character with code 160, Hex
 00a0, Octal 240 and becouse of that it wouldn't want to pass..

 from http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-08/msg00383.html
 no-break space from unicode.
  (to make it worse, this character code is displayed as space by most
  text editors).

 On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Madoka Machitani madok...@gmail.com writes:

  Now, is it correct to assume you are trying to achieve something like
  this?  \insMark a musical-sequence
 
  If so, the function would be:
 
  insMark =
  #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
 (markup? ly:music?)
 (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
 (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)
 
  This is a crude example and won't work with single note events like c'4

 Why wouldn't you do

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
#{ \mark #mark #mus #})

 instead?  Note that depending on the version, #mark and/or #mus might
 need to be $mark or $mus instead.

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Re: scheme function help

[Stjepan Horvat]

And this concept with including lilypond code block in function is 100%
easyer..:)

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 When i do this
 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
   (markup? ly:music?)
   (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
(cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
(ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
  mus)

 \displayMusic { \insMark A c'4 }

 (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music
   'NoteEvent
   'elements
   (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A))
   'duration
   (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
   'pitch
   (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

 The mark goes inside note-event element and it is not shown.

 and it should be like that

 (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
 (make-music
   'NoteEvent
   'duration
   (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
   'pitch
   (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

 and David yours makes

 (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music
   'SequentialMusic
   'elements
   (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
 (make-music
   'NoteEvent
   'duration
   (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
   'pitch
   (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0))


 On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm using GNU LilyPond 2.16.2 and Guile 1.8.8
 I found out the error

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
 (markup? ly:music?)
 (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
   (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)

 \displayMusic { \insMark A c'4 }
 %\displayMusic \insMark { A c'4 } %tryed that too
 %\relative c' { \insMark A c'4 } %that too

 after insMark =* was a strange invisible character with code 160, Hex
 00a0, Octal 240 and becouse of that it wouldn't want to pass..

 from http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-08/msg00383.html
 no-break space from unicode.
  (to make it worse, this character code is displayed as space by most
  text editors).

 On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Madoka Machitani madok...@gmail.com writes:

  Now, is it correct to assume you are trying to achieve something like
  this?  \insMark a musical-sequence
 
  If so, the function would be:
 
  insMark =
  #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
 (markup? ly:music?)
 (set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
   (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
 (ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
 mus)
 
  This is a crude example and won't work with single note events like c'4

 Why wouldn't you do

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
#{ \mark #mark #mus #})

 instead?  Note that depending on the version, #mark and/or #mus might
 need to be $mark or $mus instead.

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Re: scheme function help

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Madoka..you are right..i'm trying to learn Scheme by writing simple
functions..i have many ideas about what i would want to achieve..for
example..\mark \default is a cool feature because it is never in wrong
order..but when it is inside a bar i would want it to have a , under
it..so now i'm trying to understand how lilypond works in combination with
scheme..and i did start to learn scheme so i could improve in lilypond..
and now i understand that \breathe looks like (make-music (quote
BreathingEvent)) and that \mark \default look
like (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label '()) and that '() is the default
value..but i'm still one step away of being abel to combine it in a
function..but i think that i am one step ahead that i was yesterday..

If i did get it right..to write a function i first write some standard
lilypond code how i would want it to look..use displayMusic to see how it
should look and than try to simulate it in scheme..

and i imagine where if statment could come in..

btw. i use web gmail and dwb..it was my failure copying madokas code into
vim..


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Madoka Machitani madok...@gmail.com writes:

  On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
  [...]
 
  In general, your approach is fundamentally flawed: it is very bad
  idea
  to write code relying on user-specified music to be of a
  particular type
  (in this case, SequentialMusic) without verifying it. [...]
 
  I think he is just struggling to lern Scheme now by writing simple
  functions,
  and won't understand such technical terms you provided. Also, the one
  who initially wrote flawed sample code (knowingly, to avoid
  complexity) is me.

 But you did not avoid complexity.  Even when not using #{ #}, how is

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
(set! (ly:music-property mus 'elements)
  (cons (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark)
(ly:music-property mus 'elements)))
mus)

 supposed to be less complex than

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
(make-sequential-music
  (list (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark) mus)))

 ?  Actually, it might be worth mentioning that the above is _worse_ than

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
#{ \mark #mark #mus #})

 because it works worse with pointclick.  You should at least do

 insMark =
 #(define-music-function (parser location mark mus)
(markup? ly:music?)
(make-sequential-music
  (list (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label mark 'origin location) mus)))

 to get the same usability as the #{...#} version.

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scheme function help

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I'm trying to figure out how and learn to create a function based on a
\displayMusic function.
for example:
\displayMusic { \mark A c'4 }
gives me
(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music (quote MarkEvent) (quote label) A)
(make-music
  'NoteEvent
  'duration
  (ly:make-duration 2 0 1)
  'pitch
  (ly:make-pitch 0 0 0

so what i have gotten so far is that there is new (make-music (quote
MarkEvent) (quote label) A) or (make-music 'MarkEvent 'label A) in
front of c'
and i don't know how to put this line into it. I understand that i have to
use cons on 'elements to put the line in front of c.
Is there a way to figure out what elements do i have to use in my
function to work.
I'm going through
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Music-properties#Music-propertiesto
get an idea of how to get into it but #(display-scheme-music (first
(ly:music-property someNote 'elements))) doesn't work. I get an error
saying:
Wrong type argument in position 1 (expecting Music): #Pitch c'  with
someNote = c'.
Help would be appreciated.

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Re: mcat: join midi files

[Stjepan Horvat]

Cool..

On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Mike Blackstock
blackstock.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's a nice little utility that joins (concatenates) multiple midi files
 into one file:

 http://www.cap-lore.com/EnglishSuites/code/Transmog/mcat.html

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Lyrics rest in text

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is is possible to put a rest in a lyrics text..?!
For example:

Ya - ba - da - ba -du
He - llo - r8 - r8 - you

so that the 8th rest is showen..?!
stef

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Re: Lyrics rest in text

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It works for me..Thanks..

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de wrote:

 Am 29.04.2013 19:02, schrieb Stjepan Horvat:

  is is possible to put a rest in a lyrics text..?!
 For example:

 Ya - ba - da - ba -du
 He - llo - r8 - r8 - you

 so that the 8th rest is showen..?!


 I use something like

 Hel -- lo \markup { \raise #1 \musicglyph #rests.3 } you

 in my scores, but I am not sure whether it would work with hyphens.

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Re: Scheme education

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Thanks guys for your anwsers..yes and i want practical experience..after i
write my first lilypond function..
I still don't feel ready..i must learn more..
I am the type of a guy who wants to script everything that is done more
then once..I'd rather if it would be possible script physical stuff too..

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.comwrote:

 2013/4/18 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
  Hi guys..i want to learn the scheme syntax and implementation in
 lilypond..
  I'm on half of The Little Schemer by Daniel P. Friedman book
  (100/200p)..What would you suggest after i'm finished with it? (maybe a
  book)

 Well, you need practical experience.
 Answer user-requests. ;)

 -Harm

  I started to understund the recursion and how scheme syntax looks..
  And a question for lilypond developers. Why have you decided to use
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Hi guys..i want to learn the scheme syntax and implementation in lilypond..
I'm on half of *The Little Schemer *by* Daniel P. Friedman* book
(100/200p)..What would you suggest after i'm finished with it? (maybe a
book)
I started to understund the recursion and how scheme syntax looks..
And a question for lilypond developers. Why have you decided to use scheme?!

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Re: creating a rhythm click track

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I was creating click track without melody for my big band drummer..so he
would be in tempo..it sounds nice..it swings and it has triangle on new
part of the score..if you want i can send it to you..

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nlwrote:

 Paul Malcolm paul.malc...@anu.edu.au writes:

  Or maybe there is a much simpler better way to do this ?

 I often do this with music that has a chords track.

 makeUnfold =
 #(define-music-function (parser location name mus) (ly:music? ly:music?)
   (let ((r (make-repeated-music unfold)))
 (set! (ly:music-property r 'element) mus)
 (set! (ly:music-property r 'repeat-count)
   (ly:moment-main-numerator (ly:music-length name)))
 r))

 harmonics = \chordmode {
   c2 g | c g | f1 | c2 g |
 }

 % Create metronome ticks. This example assumes 4/4 .
 ticktock = \drummode {
   \makeUnfold \unfoldRepeats \harmonics {
 hiwoodblock 4 lowoodblock lowoodblock lowoodblock
   }
 }

 \harmonics goes in a Chord staff, and \ticktock goes in a DrumStaff.

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Re: fonts inside a project folder

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bump!

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it possible to include fonts from a folder inside my project and not
 from global ~/.fonts folder? It is easy-er when making backup to include
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Re: creating a rhythm click track

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Here is my dropbox link.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/beo1b2iwn5cx1hy/JK-_Pd2aXS

So if you have any use of it or any extra idea..share it..:)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nlwrote:

 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  I was creating click track without melody for my big band drummer..so he
  would be in tempo..it sounds nice..it swings and it has triangle on new
  part of the score..if you want i can send it to you..

 I'm always in for new and potentially useful ideas ;)

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Re: My nice LP moment today

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:)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:06 PM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Earlier today, I was at my school recording the erhu part for a new piece.
 My colleague had the printed score (Music engraving by Lilypond 2.16.1)
 in his lap. At one moment, when I stood up for some water, I sat back down
 and, for a split second, thought Hm, I wonder what music book he's
 brought? I usually don't see him reading classical scores.

 Then I remembered: that's MY score. Lilypond tricked me, for that brief
 moment, into thinking the score was traditionally engraved. o_O  Of course,
 if you look at it very very carefully, you'll find the occasional
 ungraceful engraving decision, but the fact that the page as a whole looked
 superficially like the real thing was a fine moment.

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Re: lilypond source and music sheet database

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Thanks Joseph for pointing me to git checkouts..it works for me.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM, pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 07.04.2013, at 19:29, Joseph Rushton Wakeling 
 joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote:

 On 04/07/2013 06:51 PM, Stjepan Horvat wrote:

 I realy like git too..Once i tried to make my own git server on my private
 web-server so when i finish the work i can send the customer his pdf folder
 link..but..that didnt work becouse you cant see actual files on git web
 server..like you can on github..

 Check out http://gitlab.org/.

 hth
 patrick


 In principle that's perfectly possible, you just have to set up the git
 repo on
 your web server to be a fully-fledged repo (i.e. has checked out files)
 rather
 than the bare-bones repo it tries to create by default.

 The trouble with that is that git (rightly) is cautious about allowing you
 to
 push to a remote repo with files checked out, so you can't just create a
 regular
 repo and push to it.

 There are a number of ways round this -- here's one I came across just
 today:
 http://toroid.org/ams/git-website-howto


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Re: lilypond source and music sheet database

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Hej thank you for all your anwsers..

I realy like git too..Once i tried to make my own git server on my private
web-server so when i finish the work i can send the customer his pdf folder
link..but..that didnt work becouse you cant see actual files on git web
server..like you can on github..

 It's bit more complicated to set up, but wouldn't a good solution be to
have a
 separate repo for built files, and add a system that tracks when commits
are
 pushed to the source repo, and then automatically builds, and commits the
output
 to the build repo?  You could use the --author, --date etc. options to git
 commit to ensure the details match.

I would realy like to see this working..and if it would be possible to add
maybe a revision at the end of the pdf name..so if i have a mistake (and i
have) when i change it people watching the folder can see that this is one
new-er version..do you think that this is possible using only git or i
would have to use make too? Maybe it would be a good feature..and could it
be possible to make this binary repo surfable?! or evaen to upload using
some bash scripts..i wouldn't mine..:)

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling 
joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote:

 On 04/07/2013 09:23 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
  Have you tried with LilyPond PDFs?  I think they tend to compress on the
  object level which _might_ work reasonably with some of git's packing
  techniques.

 No.  I did take a look inside them before writing my previous email -- they
 certainly have more multi-line, plain-text content than some other PDFs
 I've
 worked with, so they'd probably compress/diff better than some files I've
 worked
 with.

 Most of my experience here is with PDF/EPS files coming out of gnuplot,
 where
 the PDF output tends to have a large amount of what seems to be
 difficult-to-diff content, whereas the EPS files are almost entirely
 plain-text
 and so diff very nicely indeed.

  Packing actual executables could possibly also work with reasonable
  overhead.

 Never tried, I'm afraid. :-(

  There would be an advantage to a repository storing _complete_ compiled
  versions of LilyPond: it would make git bisect for the purpose of
  finding a regression in code or documentation a snap.

 It's bit more complicated to set up, but wouldn't a good solution be to
 have a
 separate repo for built files, and add a system that tracks when commits
 are
 pushed to the source repo, and then automatically builds, and commits the
 output
 to the build repo?  You could use the --author, --date etc. options to git
 commit to ensure the details match.

 So, then you should have two mainline version histories that are
 absolutely in
 sync, allowing you to do the regression-tracking you're looking for but
 without
 blowing up the overall version history size for the source tree.

 But, bearing in mind that the on-disk size of the PDF docs is about 50MB
 (as
 reported by aptitude show lilypond-doc-pdf) and that of the HTML docs is
 about
 90MB, then even allowing for some diffability of that material you'll be
 seeing
 a hefty cost to keeping those files versioned.

 I imagine that most of the disk-space cost of the HTML docs is actually
 PNG or
 other binary graphics files, which in my experience are the really nasty
 ones to
 version.

 On the other hand, some people apparently use git to version their home
 directory, so perhaps it doesn't scale quite as badly as I think ...

 http://entrenchant.blogspot.it/2011/03/using-git-to-synchronize-and-backup.html

 The other problem you can face with source and binaries versioned in the
 same
 tree is simply that sometimes people will make a tweak to a source file
 but not
 rebuild before committing.  And you can imagine the converse happening --
 someone making a tweak to source, rebuilding, finding it doesn't work so
 not
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Hej guys..what would you prefer using as a lilypond database. I have bunch
of files in bunch of folder laying around my pc with diferent versions of
the same song, 20 of same/diffrent config files, unsorted and some of them
i already can't find. Call it as a local publishing thing.

Hey guys .. what would you prefer using as a lilypond database. I have
bunch of files in bunch of folders laying around my pc with diferent
versions of the same song, 20 same/diffrent config files, unsorted and some
of them already are lost or can't find. Call it as a local publishing
thing. I was using git but they say it is not good for binary (pdf)
files..it is for programming..i want something where i can look for
something i made 2 years ago. What are your solutions..?!

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Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

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It looks very good.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:39 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes:

 Am 07.03.2013 00:45, schrieb Thomas Morley:
 2013/3/6 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net:
 there was a jazz font patch somewhile ago.
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-12/msg00290.html
 There is some currently unfinished work in the german forum.
 http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1218.0
 But you need an account there to get the attachments. I don't feel
 free to post the code here, though, I attach the resulting image.
 Wow, very impressive!

 I hate to admit it, but it looks like a game changer of strategic
 importance to me.  People tend to pick LilyPond to get the best
 typesetting.

 But this would rather make quite a few people pick LilyPond just to get
 a certain _look_.  That this look is still done using good typesetting
 will be a secondary consideration to them.  At least at first.

 I hope that this extension will find its way into the official
 lilypond releases...

 What needs to be done for this?

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Re: Hushing up Sibelius news?

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I agree with Francois. Writing music on paper works for me the best.
Then afterwards i typeset the music into the machine. So when i
typeset the music the easiest way to do this is by entering text and
being 100% sure that it is A and not F or C..After that you just fix
the octave if you failed counting. Perfect.

Stef.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Francois Planiol
alicuota...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont mind, let Sibelius die...

 The question is: who writes music? Thats old fashionned. Use a
 sequencer, or write lead sheets per hand or whatever, but why scores?
 I bet most of people writing music would be happier to write score on
 paper (with indications for copy-paste etc) and have mostly students
 all around to pay them for typing in lily.

 But nevertheless, when Sib has become unuseful, then will come another
 propietary software. Looking for others money. Make a product, invest
 in a good announcements campaign and this is know for to work. This is
 capitalism.

 Freeware is for non-mainstream-people. This is another side of capitalism ;-)

 Francois

 2013/2/25, Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Hilary Snaden
 h...@newearth.demon.co.uk wrote:
 On 2013-02-21 19:58, Urs Liska wrote:

 http://blog.steinberg.net/2013/02/welcome/


 These from Daniel Spreadbury tell me most, I think, of what I need to
 know
 about the new project.

 Our application will use a proprietary file format... an open source
 file
 format is only any use if you also have a wide range of software that can
 make use of that format... the Lilypond file format itself does not
 describe
 exactly how the finished score will appear...

 Thanks, but no thanks.

 I just blogged about this:

 http://blog.adamspiers.org/2013/02/25/music-industry-learns-nothing-from-the-avid-sibelius-saga/

 Like it or not (and I certainly don't), a large proportion of people
 who need to notate music will run away screaming if you explain the
 compilation-based design of LilyPond to them.  I think

   http://lilypond.org/text-input.html

 is absolutely fantastic, but some people's aversion to anything which
 looks at all technical seems unsurmountable to me (although I'd love
 to be proven wrong; after all, I still see non-technical airport
 staff happily typing cryptic commands into old-school terminals in
 order to query flight data ...)

 So anything we can do as a community to address that part of the
 user-base is very good in my book ...

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Re: Swing midi output

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Hi guys..
Is there any new swing sintax..
the old swing.ly doesnt work any more in 2.16.2.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you..:)


 On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Christopher R. Maden cr...@maden.orgwrote:

 On 01/14/2012 02:45 PM, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
  is there a possibility to swing the midi ouput in lilypond..so when i
  write a c8 c, would sound like \times 2/3 {c8 r c}..?!

 You can try my hack at URL: http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly ,
 which may or may not suffice for your purposes.  It only works on
 eighth-notes and -rests, and only works if pairs are beat-aligned.  This
 means that any dotted quarters, e.g., must be re-written as quarter
 notes tied to eighth notes, and an eighth note pick-up (anacrucis) must
 be rewritten as an eighth rest and eighth note.

 ~Chris
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Re: add9 chords

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Did you try c:5.9?

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:40 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I've searching for a way to add 'add9' chords to my own version of
 predefined fretboards, but whatever I do, it does not accept it and doesn't
 render it. I think the system doesn't allow 'add9' as chordname, because
 when I change it to '9', like 'c:9' it does render.

 How can I solve this? I'm using both 9 and add9 chords for my guitarbook,
 and do need both, so using c:9 to describe c:add9 is quite confusing.
 I know I can modify chordnames, and in the chordnames I can get c:add9,
 but not in the fretboards. I do need the fretboards for these chords, it is
 a teaching book and I don't want to break the consistency.

 Grtz,

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] ly2video 0.3.0

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Very good..!

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Adam Spiers lilypond-u...@adamspiers.org writes:

  + a new default scrolling mode where the notation stay still
and the cursor line scrolls from left to right

 You jump the notation leftwards.  You should rather _pull_ it left.
 Start with a pixel per frame, increase the speed by 1 pixel/frame/frame
 until you are half through, then decrease by 1 pixel/frame/frame.  If
 this is not fast enough to keep the cursor on-screen, start earlier
 and/or faster.  Ok, the metrics are certainly debatable: you probably
 want everything over in 0.5 seconds or less, and want to have this in
 two phases (possibly more): acceleration and deceleration.

 But a mere discontinuous jump is confusing since it can happen when
 blinking.  A more continuous movement should usually also be friendly to
 the video codec and rate.

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Re: Neal Morse songbook done with LilyPond

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Hey Peter..The sample looks great!

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Peter Crighton
petecrigh...@googlemail.com wrote:

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using if variable in lilypond

[Stjepan Horvat]

hi guys..
i would want to define my font sizes in the next order:

\header {
title = \markup { \fontsize #+4   BEI MIR BIST DU SCHÖN}
subtitle =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   (Yiddish: Bay mir bistu 
sheyn)  }
poet =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   Jacob Jacobs}
composer =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   Sholom Secunda}
}

so i would want to make a config out of it so i woudn't always have to
add the extra text..
i used something like that in external config.ly:

title = \markup { \fontsize #+4 \title }
and so on..

but that only works if i include the config file after the header and
if all sub header name exist..

my question:
is there a posibility to make something like that.

if ( title exists ):
  title = \markup { \fontsize #+4 \title }

thanks..:)
p.s. is there an way to learn that stuff (sheme) without always asking
you guys..?!
i'm familiar with bash, perl and python..is it posible to integrate
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Re: using if variable in lilypond

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Thanks Thomas..
This is it..!

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Thomas Morley
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2012/11/29 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
 hi guys..
 i would want to define my font sizes in the next order:

 \header {
 title = \markup { \fontsize #+4   BEI MIR BIST DU SCHÖN}
 subtitle =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   (Yiddish: Bay mir bistu 
 sheyn)  }
 poet =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   Jacob Jacobs}
 composer =  \markup { \fontsize #+1   Sholom Secunda}
 }

 so i would want to make a config out of it so i woudn't always have to
 add the extra text..
 i used something like that in external config.ly:

 title = \markup { \fontsize #+4 \title }
 and so on..

 but that only works if i include the config file after the header and
 if all sub header name exist..

 my question:
 is there a posibility to make something like that.

 if ( title exists ):
   title = \markup { \fontsize #+4 \title }

 thanks..:)
 p.s. is there an way to learn that stuff (sheme) without always asking
 you guys..?!
 i'm familiar with bash, perl and python..is it posible to integrate
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 Hi Stjepan,

 have a look in titling-init.ly, there you can find the default
 settings in bookTitleMarkup.
 If you want to choose different settings create a new one,
 myBookTitleMarkup, include it in your file and call it in paper:

 \paper {
 bookTitleMarkup = \myBookTitleMarkup
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Re: lyrics to music

[Stjepan Horvat]

There is another problem. a few months ago I read a hymnbook published here
in croatia that didn't care when translating the lyrics so the hard beat of
the words were not on hard beat of music so it was impossible to read..


On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Fr. Michael Gilmary, mma 
frmichaelgilm...@maronitemonks.org wrote:

 On Nov 20 AD 2012, at 12:54 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:

  I only sing, but I find beamed notes more difficult to sing from - the
 rhythm of the bars is less important to me than aligning the syllable to
 the correct note.




 I'm grateful for all the input from everyone. So now I can add my 2 cents:
 I also find it more difficult to read the lyrics when the music is beamed
 across syllables as opposed to being separated. That issue might be
 compounded by the input user's choice of a font, etc. For example, the
 musician who puts some music together for us monks uses beams across
 syllables and words ... and then has a very small font AND stacks 4 or more
 verses of lyrics on top of one another. That's definitely pushing my limits
 for ease of reading when the piece is unfamiliar!






 United in adoration of Jesus,



 fr. michael gilmary, mma

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lyrics-lyrics extra spacing

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hi guys..
is there a way to get extra spacing between lyrics (verses).
i would want to make extra space so a person could translate a text (verse)
by hand. i'm using the \addlyrics command.

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Re: lyrics-lyrics extra spacing

[Stjepan Horvat]

Thanks man..thats exactly what i was looking for..!


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Thomas Morley 
thomasmorle...@googlemail.com wrote:

 2012/11/19 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
  hi guys..
  is there a way to get extra spacing between lyrics (verses).
  i would want to make extra space so a person could translate a text
 (verse)
  by hand. i'm using the \addlyrics command.

 Hi Stjepan,

 how about

 \version 2.16.0

 \layout {
 \context {
 \Lyrics
 \override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 0)
   (minimum-distance . 5)  ;; 
 more lower space
   (padding . 0.2)
   (stretchability . 0))
 }
 }

 \relative c' {
 \repeat unfold 20 { c4 d e f }
 g1
 }
 \addlyrics {
 \repeat unfold 20 { foo -- foo -- foo -- foo }
 foo
 }
 \addlyrics {
 \repeat unfold 20 { bar -- bar -- bar -- bar }
 bar
 }
 \addlyrics {
 \repeat unfold 20 { bla -- bla -- bla -- bla }
 bla
 }


 Adjust minimum-distance to fit your needs.


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Re: Version Control and Public Repository

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hi..i have the same question..?!
I reed somewhere that git isn't intended for binary packages..
and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for..

how do you handle this kind of staff..
What are the laws related to such situations?!

this is what my brother and i are working on
https://github.com/schef/duhovni-projekt/


On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Thanks Francisco. It's fixed.

 -M.

 On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote:

 2012/11/10 Mike Blackstock blackstock.m...@gmail.com:
  You can generate your own lilypond scores page at www.omet.ca. Just
 upload
  your sources, compile them, and you'll get a page like this:
 
  http://www.omet.ca/scores/Mike_Blackstock_2/

 I hadn't noticed before: source view in omet.ca does not escape  and
  for chords, see image at
 http://paconet.org/lilypond/problem-omet-ca.png
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Re: Version Control and Public Repository

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And is puting it on the web for example github (public) illegal..?!


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.comwrote:

 2012/11/11 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
  I reed somewhere that git isn't intended for binary packages..

 Humans are not intended for tracking per-line changes on binary files,
 either. Git can do it, for example people adds videos to git repos,
 but it is not of great help except that you can mix binaries with all
 else and git is agnostic to the difference.

  and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for..
 
  how do you handle this kind of staff..
  What are the laws related to such situations?!

 I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you
 transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material
 you don't own the rights of.


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Re: Version Control and Public Repository

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Thanks guys..this was unclear to me..
..so Copyright is the key word..


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:

 Am 11.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Federico Bruni:

  Il 11/11/2012 18:54, Stjepan Horvat ha scritto:

 And is puting it on the web for example github (public) illegal..?!


 Sure it's illegal, if material is copyrighted and you don't have the
 rights.
 If you use a private repository I think it's ok.

 Of course you can typeset anything you want and put it in a private
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Re: Version Control and Public Repository

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Now thats a useful information..i will ask a lawyer here in croatia and
report what i heard.


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:33 PM, martinwguy martinw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11 November 2012 18:39, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote:
  and i transcribed (by ear) many scores i don't have rights for..
 
  how do you handle this kind of staff..
  What are the laws related to such situations?!
 
  I think copyright laws are clear, regardless of whether you
  transcribed it by ear or photocopied it, you can not publish material
  you don't own the rights of.

 That's a simplistic play-it-safe position, but in reality copyright
 laws are different in every country and cover different situations in
 different ways.

 The term for derivative works of music that do not directly reuse
 another person's performance, which includes cover versions and new
 typesettings of sheet music, is Mechanical license and in the US you
 have the right to do this, whether or not the owner of the copyright
 of the original score or of a particular performance want you to or
 not, on payment of a small fee that is calculateda according to some
 tables ($15 per song + a cut of the profits, if any), managed through
 a central agency.

 In other legal giurisdictions, different laws apply.

 See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_license for further details.

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Re: evince handling textedit://

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ok..thanks..i will check this out later today..

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:

 At 21:22 on 07 Oct 2012, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
 Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
 i found this post
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
 from 2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
 after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
 i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported
 like it didn't remove Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by
 default,
 
 i use evince 3.4.0..

 Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
 gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
 necessary files here:

 https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

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Re: evince handling textedit://

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it works..! thanks..:)

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.comwrote:

 ok..thanks..i will check this out later today..


 On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:

 At 21:22 on 07 Oct 2012, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
 Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
 i found this post
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html
 from 2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
 after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
 i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported
 like it didn't remove Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by
 default,
 
 i use evince 3.4.0..

 Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses the
 gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info and
 necessary files here:

 https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

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Re: evince handling textedit://

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you can make log file with touch ~/textedit_url.log .
and your textedit-url.sh has to be in your $PATH..

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org wrote:

  Mark == Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net writes:

 Mark Thanks for prompting me to update this. Gnome 3 no longer uses
 the
 Mark gconf key, it's now actually a little easier. I've put the info
 and
 Mark necessary files here:

 Mark https://github.com/markk/textedit-ly

 Mark Let me know if this works for you.

 Not for me.  When I click the notehead, evince pops up a red box that says:

 Unable to open external link
 The specified location is not supported

 I also can't do tail -f ~/textedit_url.log because the file doesn't
 exist, either before or after I've opened the PDF file.

 This is on an ubuntu 12.04 system running GNOME Document Viewer 3.4.0.
 The PDF file was produced with lilypond 2.16.0.

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Re: evince handling textedit://

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did you put the put the textedit-url.sh in your $PATH..

sudo cp ./textedit-url.sh /usr/bin/
sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/textedit-url.sh

and put the textedit.desktop in ~/.local/share/applications/

cp ./textedit.desktop .local/share/applications/

and add the line x-scheme-handler/textedit=textedit.desktop; in

gedit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list

in section [Added Associations]..

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Laura Conrad lcon...@laymusic.org wrote:

  Stjepan == Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

 Stjepan you can make log file with touch ~/textedit_url.log .
 Stjepan and your textedit-url.sh has to be in your $PATH..

 It is.  I touched the log file, and it now exists, but is empty, even
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evince handling textedit://

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Hi guys..does anyone has any news on has evince handles textedit..
i found this post
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00185.html from
2007 using gconftool-2 but couldn't get it working..
after i execute the gconftool-2 --install-schema-file=textedit.schemas
i still get -- Unable to open external link Operation not supported like it
didn't remove Evince ignores the embedded textedit:// urls by default,

i use evince 3.4.0..

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Re: vim pointing to pdf-viewer and reverse

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Hi guys..it is an old post..but i got it working right now..so i want to
share it with you..

I made a script vim-lilypond.sh

#!/bin/bash
FILENAME=`echo $1 | cut -d : -f 2`
LINE=`echo $1 | cut -d : -f 3`
CHAR=`echo $1 | cut -d : -f 4`
COLUMN=`echo $1 | cut -d : -f 5`
vim --servername lilypond --remote-silent +call cursor($LINE, $CHAR+1)
$FILENAME

then i started vim with server called lilypond:

vim --servername lilypond file.ly

and in xpdf or epdfview changed the urlCommand to ~./vim-lilypond.sh %s
or whereever you put it..

it also works with gvim..

what i didnt understand is how lilypond-invoke-editor works and what it is
for..and..
what is the diference between LINE CHAR and COLUMN couse url comand has 3
numbers..

..am happy...

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Rutger Hofman rut...@cs.vu.nl wrote:

 On 03/07/2012 11:09 AM, Rutger Hofman wrote:

 On 03/07/2012 09:12 AM, David Kastrup wrote:

 Stjepan Horvatzvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Kastrupd...@gnu.org wrote:

 Stjepan Horvatzvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  Hello..can somebody please tell me how to get vim and a pdf viewer
 (xpdf or evince of zathura) to work with vim lilypond-invoke-editor
 function..i read everything that is on the web

 [snip]


 Have you set up your EDITOR environment variable? I quote:

 The program 'lilypond-invoke-editor' is a small helper program. It
 will invoke an editor for the special textedit URIs, and run a web
 browser for others. It tests the environment variable EDITOR for the
 following patterns,

 emacs

 this will invoke

 emacsclient --no-wait +line:column file

 gvim

 this will invoke

 gvim --remote +:line:normcolumn file

 nedit

 this will invoke

 nc -noask +line file'

 The environment variable LYEDITOR is used to override this. It
 contains the command line to start the editor, where %(file)s,
 %(column)s, %(line)s is replaced with the file, column and line
 respectively. The setting

 emacsclient --no-wait +%(line)s:%(column)s %(file)s

 for LYEDITOR is equivalent to the standard emacsclient invocation.




  From gvim's man page, I understand how one can position the cursor at
 startup on a line (+line or +:line), but I do /not/ grasp how it is put
 on a column. Indeed, gvim gives me an error if I follow the
 lilypond-invoke-editor example: the +:line:column syntax is wrong.


 Oops, sorry, I was wrong here. I cut out the 'norm' thingy in my test.
 Wrong. It puts the cursor on the column. Sorry for the noise.


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Re: Lilypond 2.16.0 released!

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Thanks..!

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM, eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:


 Fredric Dannen wrote
 
 
  In 2.14, I was using this syntax:
 
oddHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line {
 
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \fromproperty #'header:title
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first
  \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string
}
evenHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line {
\on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty
  #'page:page-number-string
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \fromproperty #'header:composer
 
  }
 
  But 2.16 will not accept this syntax, nor create a PDF. And the
 convert-ly
  -e *.ly function won't fix the problem, or even identify it.
 
  But this works:
 
oddHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line {
   
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \fromproperty #'header:title
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first
  \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string }
 
evenHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line {
\on-the-fly #not-first-page \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first
  \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string
\on-the-fly #not-first-page { \center-align \fromproperty
  #'header:composer  }   }
  }
 

 it's always good to send a (potentially) compiling code  or the full code
 to
 reproduce the error

 when I complete the missing parts I see no error

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rhytmic augmentatinon and diminution

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hi..

is it possible to make a subject.

c4 d e f = c8 d e f

something like \diminution 4 8 { c4 d e f }..and the result is
c8 d e f

or \augmentation 4 2 { c4 d e f }

c2 d e f

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Re: rhytmic augmentatinon and diminution

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thank you..
i searched with augmentation and diminution and couldn't find..
this are clasical names for it..

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  hi..
 
  is it possible to make a subject.
 
  c4 d e f = c8 d e f
 
  something like \diminution 4 8 { c4 d e f }..and the result is
  c8 d e f
 
  or \augmentation 4 2 { c4 d e f }
 
  c2 d e f
 
  thanks..

 \shiftDurations #1 #0 { c4 d e f }
 \shiftDurations #-1 #0 { c4 d e f }

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Re: rhytmic augmentatinon and diminution

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thanks david..:)

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

  thank you..
  i searched with augmentation and diminution and couldn't find..
  this are clasical names for it..
 
  On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:11 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 
  Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:
 
   hi..
  
   is it possible to make a subject.
  
   c4 d e f = c8 d e f
  
   something like \diminution 4 8 { c4 d e f }..and the result is
   c8 d e f
  
   or \augmentation 4 2 { c4 d e f }
  
   c2 d e f
  
   thanks..
 
 
  \shiftDurations #1 #0 { c4 d e f }
  \shiftDurations #-1 #0 { c4 d e f }

 Yup.  Name, arguments, and discoverability all leave something to be
 desired.

 \augment 2  = shiftDurations #-1 #0
 \augment 1/4 = shiftDurations #2 #0
 \augment 3/2 = shiftDurations #0 #1 (the second argument is rather
   shaky to interpret and use and
   only works in limited situations)

 Would likely be better discoverable, and more natural to use.

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staff line thickness

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hi guys..
is it possible to make the staff lines thinner without effecting other
lines..?!
i tried \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #3

but it affects all..

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Re: how to enter notes quickly (midi keyboard available)

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What do you think about talking out the score in lilypond style..so you
wouldnt have to switch eyes between screen and sheet..for example..:

c 8 f 16 c 4 . ( d 8 d d |

and than a script to fix it:

c8 f16 c4. ( d8 d d |

but i think that voice recognition is not well suported on linux..i think
you would only need to read it one time out loud..

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.auwrote:

 On 26 May 2012 03:28, Klaus Föhl klaus.fo...@uni-giessen.de wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I like the lilypond notation using \relative being concise and readable.
  Entering on a computer keyboard is fairly quick, but still it feels
  that playing a melody line would be so much quicker. In particular
  if one does not have a typing c4 d e f g1 style but c4 d4. e8 f8. g16 c,1
 
  What better methods exist?
 
  For example I have looked into rosegarden output.
  Minor issue:the output is not in relative notation.
  More cumbersome are slightly non-aligned notes to the beat
  (me being an imperfect human) and in particular varying
  note lengths introducing rests where the music and the audible sound
  both have none.
 
  I have seen techniques where the pitch is via piano keyboard
  and rhythm is via computer keyboard. I am not fully convinced.
 
  I have seen a custom-designed computer keyboard that combines
  pitch and duration. It might work well after a learning curve.
 
  What I am tempted is to take midi file information (i.e. gunzip a.rg),
  or the rosegarden ly output and reverse-engineer it into event lists.
  Whatever the detail: only piano-keyboard input and get both pitch and
  length.
 
  Then to apply some smart quantisation. For one thing notes like c1
  are much more likely than c2... or alignment with bars is probable,
  aspects that require some adaptive rules, possibly some parameter
  training.
  Also the routine should pick up and follow the meter as played,
  as opposed to techniques providing the rigid mentronome frame.
 
  Well, before I reinvent the wheel myself: are such things already out
  there?
 
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 I have written a script that copies (and improves on) Finale's Simple
 Note Entry. My left hand is on my MIDI keyboard, and almost everything
 I want to do is on the numeric keypad. So I hold down a note or chord
 on the keyboard, and press 4 (crochet), and something like g4 will be
 virtually typed. Because I mostly enter renaissance music, most things
 I want to type (in normal circumstances) are available on the numeric
 keypad. The other advantage is that I hear the pitches as they are
 entered, and the script takes care of note names and octaves.

 The downside is that I wrote it for Mac using CoreMIDI and Cocoa, as I
 had a little knowledge in this area. I've tried to make the main
 script platform-agnostic, in that input is a MIDI packet or keystroke,
 and output is the same MIDI packet (for MIDI thru), and virtual
 keystrokes if appropriate. I still have to 'manually' translate ASCII
 codes into Mac keyboard strokes as I can't work out how to do this in
 Cocoa.

 I briefly investigated making it more portable, but didn't want to go
 through the pain of working out how to process MIDI and keystrokes
 again. My script is in Lua, and contains all the logic for converting
 MIDI to \relative. If anyone is interested, there is an XCode project
 here:

 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0YNwfxb13ZcWmY0Uy12T3ctVW8

 The script is in /LuaScripts

 It runs on my Intel iMac with Snow Leopard, don't about any other OSs.
 If anyone is interested and knows about portable keystrokes and MIDI,
 I would be happy to discuss adapting the script for them.

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Re: printing empty staff

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or by \repeat unfold 32 { s1 }

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Choan Gálvez choan.gal...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 4/25/12 15:10 , rathcof...@comcast.net wrote:


 The attached .LY file is a 32-bar song with the melody printed in the
 top staff.

 What I'm trying to do is print an empty staff beneath the first one (to
 permit pencilled in notations, etc.)

 The program will only print the measures in the second staff if the
 measure contains content. I can't get it to print the empty staff (or
 even an empty measure). There's probably some way to do this, I just
 haven't found it.


 You can fill the empty staff by using

 s1 * 32

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ChordNames with bar lines + 1 staff line

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I would like to write some Leadsheet without notes..only chords with
barlines..The problem with existing solution at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Chords is
that when you have a whole page with this kind of bars without atlast
1 staffline you get pretty confused..for example
http://blog.musicvm.com/lilypond-chords-only . It speans in your head
a little..

Is there a way of getting chords into empty staffline like in a
traditional handwritten jazz sheet (like in this example
http://www.tullianos.com/tullguitarpage/songs/serenadetoacucko.JPG
)..or something to put a horizontal line between each new line.

Did somebody play with this kind of staff..

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Re: ChordNames with bar lines + 1 staff line

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Thanks..YES..
\accepts ChordNames
..that was the anwser..! I will send you a pic when i tweak it the way i
want it to look..



On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:33 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 2012/4/24 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
  I would like to write some Leadsheet without notes..only chords with
  barlines..The problem with existing solution at
  http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Chords is that
  when you have a whole page with this kind of bars without atlast 1
 staffline
  you get pretty confused..for example
  http://blog.musicvm.com/lilypond-chords-only . It speans in your head a
  little..
 
  Is there a way of getting chords into empty staffline like in a
 traditional
  handwritten jazz sheet (like in this
  example
 http://www.tullianos.com/tullguitarpage/songs/serenadetoacucko.JPG
  )..or something to put a horizontal line between each new line.
 
  Did somebody play with this kind of staff..
 
  Thank you guys..stef.

 I *think* you want this thread

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00100.html

 James

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Re: String Bass Notation

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I'm a doublebass student at Music Acadamy in Zagreb..this should be a
bartok pizzicato..i didn't heard that there is an articulation like this
and would have a diferent meaning. I aggree with tim that it is easyer to
write..

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Mark Mathias d8val...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a bass player who studied with Larry Hurst in the early 70s and
 a public school string teacher, so I've seen a lot of notation, but never
 what you are describing. The snap pizzicato has the line drawn vertically
 through the top of the circle only and the thumb symbol (a fingering
 indication --- very unlikely in the situation you describe) is a circle
 with the vertical line extending downward from the bottom. Both are
 implemented in LilyPond:
 c4\snappizzicato c\thumb

 HTH!
 Mark

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote:

 -Eluze wrote:
  Tim Roberts wrote:
  This is a hand-drawn score.  I'm thinking that they probably meant snap
  pizzicato, and it was easier to draw the line all the way through than
  to stop part way through.  Snap pizzicato would fit in the context, and
  I have found no source that shows the exact phi symbol.  Have any of
  you string players seen that notation?
  sorry, I didn't find this score - am  i missing something?

 No, I didn't attach an image because I didn't get a chance to grab a
 copy.  I assumed my description would be sufficient...

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Re: separating design from pure score

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Yes..i think it does..:)

On 3/15/12, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
 Hi Stjepan,

 sorry that I don't have the time to really go through this thread (so I
 might misunderstand sth).

 But I think you should separate your music variables from your score
 definition, so you can \include them separately:

 music.ly
 myMusic = { ... }

 score.ly
 \score {
  \new Staff 
\myMusic
\myMarks
  
 }


 Then you can have your master file like:

 \include music.ly
 myMarks = { ... }
 \include score.ly

 Does that help?

 Best
 Urs

 Am 15.03.2012 11:23, schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
 Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
 exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
 what will be my solution..!

 David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
 diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
 diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
 i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
 unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.

 For Example:
 1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.

 = score.ly =
 \verison 2.14.2
 \header { title = TITLE composer = COMPOSER }
 mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
 mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
 mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
 \score {
 
 \new ChordNames { \mychords }
 \new Staff { \mymusic }
 \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
 }
  end of score.ly 

 Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.

 So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
 be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.

 And on the end.

  master.ly 
 \include ./desing.ly
 \include ./score.ly

 %now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
 song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
 maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
 problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
 (i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
 blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.

 paper {
 markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
 markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
 score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
 last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
 score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
 top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
 }

 marks = {
\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
\hideNotes
R1 \break
\bar ||
\mark \default
\unHideNotes
\bar |.
 }

 \score {
 
 \new ChordNames { \mychords }
 \new Staff {  \mymusic \marks}
 \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
 }

  end of master.ly 

 I would only compile the maste.ly file..

 I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.


 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikemahans.aik...@aikebah.net
 wrote:
 On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
 because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
 maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
 (something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
 design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
 what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
 dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
 but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
 invisible to me?


 If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
 structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
 including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.

 What I have in my projects:

 format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
 contains
 - a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
 - a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
 - an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
 functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found
 in
 the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
 - variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
 lyrics (verstekst):
 muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
 verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto myMelody { \tekst }}

 format/BeamerRegular.ly
 contains
 - an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
 - a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
 into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored
 output:
 === format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
 \include BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly

 \score {
 
 \applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
 \muziekbalk
 \verstekst
 }
 === end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===

 Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
 - a \header block
 - a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered

Re: separating design from pure score

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
what will be my solution..!

David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.

For Example:
1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.

= score.ly =
\verison 2.14.2
\header { title = TITLE composer = COMPOSER }
mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
\score {

\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff { \mymusic }
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }

}
 end of score.ly 

Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.

So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.

And on the end.

 master.ly 
\include ./desing.ly
\include ./score.ly

%now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
(i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.

paper {
markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
}

marks = {
  \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
  \hideNotes
  R1 \break
  \bar ||
  \mark \default
  \unHideNotes
  \bar |.
}

\score {

\new ChordNames { \mychords }
\new Staff {  \mymusic \marks }
\addlyrics { \mylyrics }

}

 end of master.ly 

I would only compile the maste.ly file..

I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote:
 On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
 because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
 maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
 (something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
 design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
 what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
 dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
 but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
 invisible to me?


 If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
 structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
 including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.

 What I have in my projects:

 format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
 contains
 - a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
 - a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
 - an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
 functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found in
 the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
 - variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
 lyrics (verstekst):
 muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
 verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto myMelody { \tekst }}

 format/BeamerRegular.ly
 contains
 - an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
 - a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
 into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored output:
 === format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
 \include BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly

 \score {
 
            \applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
            \muziekbalk
            \verstekst

 }
 === end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===

 Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
 - a \header block
 - a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered to in the
 format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the melody of
 the song
 - a variable definition called 'tekst' which is refered to in the
 format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the lyrics of
 the song
 - an include of the format/BeamerRegular.ly

 e.g.:
 === MySong.ly sample ===
 \version 2.15.26
 \header {
    title = Just some sample song
 }
 melodie = \relative c'' {
    \clef treble
    \time 4/4
    \key c \major
    c d e f \bar |.
 }
 tekst = \lyricmode {
  this is a song
 }
 \include format/BeamerGewoon.ly
 === end of MySong.ly sample ===

 The reason for the BeamerRegular.ly is that I also have separate files

separating design from pure score

[Stjepan Horvat]

Hello,

I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
(something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
invisible to me?


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Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

[Stjepan Horvat]

Did you try to press number 3 in sibelius..i think it would create a
third interval..and so on..i'm not sure..

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
 - Original Message - From: Kieren MacMillan
 kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca
 To: Vaughan McAlley vaug...@mcalley.net.au
 Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond



 Hi Vaughan,

 Finale does automatic word extensions for lyrics.


 Um... so does Lilypond.

 Cheers,
 Kieren.
 __


 Strictly, I don't believe it does automatic extenders - you need to add
 underscores to get them.

 Anyway, I'm a reluctant Sibelius user (need to use it for college) and I
 find its inability to edit music a complete PITA.  For example, I'd created
 a chord with 3 notes and then moved onto other notes.  I then wanted to add
 a further note to the chord.  Whenever I tried, it deleted the chord and
 replaced it with a note.  The tutor and all the class could offer no better
 answer than to delete the chord and recreate it.  There may be a way, but
 no-one knew it.  Oh - and I'd entered some music which ran to 2 lines.  I
 wanted it on one.  I reduced the font size.  No effect.  I tried for at
 least 30 minutes before giving up.  The way you edit in Sibelius is just so
 c**p.  I don't edit directly into LilyPond (I use Noteworthy and convert)
 but anyone swapping to LilyPond must save time over Sibelius's arcane ways.

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Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

[Stjepan Horvat]

For me..After moving to Lilypond 3, 4 years ago..When i changed to NO
MOUSE interface..i stoped having headaches couse i didnt have to look
in the music sheet for the wrong notes..and didnt have to think of
kombinations of keys and clicking with mouse..Now when i typeset music
and if i'm not lazy i can write whole piece without looking into
pdf..but locking into pdf is more fun..:) watch how your procces
growes..:) compilig like we are programers..:) (we are)

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:19 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 On 13 March 2012 12:02, Rodolfo Zitellini xhero...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...

  If you are used to
 finale/sibelius, this is indeed shocking as the first times you use
 lilypond it is very difficult to correlate your textual input to what
 will end up in the pdf. It took me some deal of time to stop finding
 the layout as magical.

 I've never stopped thinking it's like 'magic' =8 ) - I've been using
 LP for the last 2 years.

 Oh if you've ever had to transcribe a piece of 'real' music (by real I
 mean an old dog-eared printed complete score that's in the 'wrong'
 pitch for your instrument) I cannot believe that typing letters on a
 keyboard is anything but *significantly* faster than dragging and
 dropping graphics on a page, especially if they are peppered with
 slurs, dynamics and articulations.

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Re: vim pointing to pdf-viewer and reverse

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I put the command 'urlCommand lilypond-invoke-editor %s' at the end
of /etc/xpdfrc (i use archlinux)..and then when i tryed to hit a note
in xpdf it tryes to open emacs..the secend thing that i tryed is to
start gvim with options 'gvim --remote +:line:normcolumn myfile.ly'
and i get an error like this in gvim 'E492: Not an editor command:
:line:normcolumn|cal foreground()|if im|star|en|redr|f' and this
'E247: no registered server named GVIM: Send failed. Trying to
execute locally' in terminal..

I tought it is simple as that..but from mail-archive i saw that it is
more complicated than i tought..but still did not understand how to
set it up..

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello..can somebody please tell me how to get vim and a pdf viewer
 (xpdf or evince of zathura) to work with vim lilypond-invoke-editor
 function..i read everything that is on the web

 An impressive feat.

 and couldn't figure it out..thank you.

 What is unclear with
 URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/point-and-click?

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Re: vim pointing to pdf-viewer and reverse

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Frescobaldi is very good and i like it..the only lack of it is that it
doesn't have vim mode..and intergrated midi player..10/10..i'm very
used to work without mouse..selecting whole line is simple as
shift+v..y for yank and p for paste..:)

I will try to understand it..and get it to work this afternoon..

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello..can somebody please tell me how to get vim and a pdf viewer
 (xpdf or evince of zathura) to work with vim lilypond-invoke-editor
 function..i read everything that is on the web

 An impressive feat.

 and couldn't figure it out..thank you.

 What is unclear with
 URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage/point-and-click?

 I put the command 'urlCommand lilypond-invoke-editor %s' at the end
 of /etc/xpdfrc (i use archlinux)..and then when i tryed to hit a note
 in xpdf it tryes to open emacs..the secend thing that i tryed is to
 start gvim with options 'gvim --remote +:line:normcolumn myfile.ly'
 and i get an error like this in gvim 'E492: Not an editor command:
 :line:normcolumn|cal foreground()|if im|star|en|redr|f' and this
 'E247: no registered server named GVIM: Send failed. Trying to
 execute locally' in terminal..

 I tought it is simple as that..but from mail-archive i saw that it is
 more complicated than i tought..but still did not understand how to
 set it up..

 Have you set up your EDITOR environment variable?  I quote:

 The program 'lilypond-invoke-editor' is a small helper program. It will 
 invoke an editor for the special textedit URIs, and run a web browser for 
 others. It tests the environment variable EDITOR for the following patterns,

 emacs

this will invoke

emacsclient --no-wait +line:column file

 gvim

this will invoke

gvim --remote +:line:normcolumn file

 nedit

this will invoke

  nc -noask +line file'

 The environment variable LYEDITOR is used to override this. It contains the 
 command line to start the editor, where %(file)s, %(column)s, %(line)s is 
 replaced with the file, column and line respectively. The setting

emacsclient --no-wait +%(line)s:%(column)s %(file)s

 for LYEDITOR is equivalent to the standard emacsclient invocation.



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Hello..can somebody please tell me how to get vim and a pdf viewer
(xpdf or evince of zathura) to work with vim lilypond-invoke-editor
function..i read everything that is on the web and couldn't figure it
out..thank you.

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Re: Hiding MultiMeasureRest

[Stjepan Horvat]

@David It works..Thank you..:)

I didn't send an example couse i tought that the solution is in
understanding..:) (sorry)
Ok..i will report a BUG tomorow.

And @Colin if you want to you can send me an example so that i can see
how you managed to solve some problems in this big grandscores..i
didnt find many documentary on this topic.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,
 Is there a possibility of hiding MultiMeasureRest.
 I am writing a Big Band Score and i am using

 marks = {
       \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
         \compressFullBarRests
         \hideNotes
       \partial 8 s8
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %9
       R1*8 \mark \default %17
         R1*8 \mark \default %25
       R1*8 \mark \default %33
       R1*8 \mark \default %41
       R1*8 \mark \default %49
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %57
       R1*8 \mark \default %65
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar ||  %77
       R1*8 \mark \default %85
       R1*12 \mark \default \bar || %97
       R1*8 \mark \default
       R1*12 \mark \default
       R1*7 %kraj
         R1
         \unHideNotes
       \bar |.
       }

 marks variable as sheme for bar lines and makrs.
 Then after i combine voices as  \tenorSax \marks .
 The problem is that if i would use \repeat unfold 8 { s1 } i wouldn't
 get compressFullBarRests in separate voices. And \hideNotes does not
 work either. I tryed the new patch for ly/property-init.ly but it
 didn't help. It's like R1 is acting difrenet then r1.
 Thanks..

 I really, really, really don't understand why people insist on posting
 examples that are incomplete and can't be tested without writing
 additional code.  Anyway, you might try putting

 hideNotes = { \hideNotes \override MultiMeasureRest #'transparent = ##t }
 unHideNotes = { \revert MultiMeasureRest #'transparent \unHideNotes }

 at the front (it is for _obvious_ reasons untested, and since
 multimeasurerests are a bit funny, it might or might not work).  And
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Hiding MultiMeasureRest

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Hello,
Is there a possibility of hiding MultiMeasureRest.
I am writing a Big Band Score and i am using

marks = {
\set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
\compressFullBarRests
\hideNotes
\partial 8 s8
R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %9
R1*8 \mark \default %17
R1*8 \mark \default %25
R1*8 \mark \default %33
R1*8 \mark \default %41
R1*8 \mark \default %49
R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %57
R1*8 \mark \default %65
R1*8 \mark \default \bar ||  %77
R1*8 \mark \default %85
R1*12 \mark \default \bar || %97
R1*8 \mark \default
R1*12 \mark \default
R1*7 %kraj
R1
\unHideNotes
\bar |.
}

marks variable as sheme for bar lines and makrs.
Then after i combine voices as  \tenorSax \marks .
The problem is that if i would use \repeat unfold 8 { s1 } i wouldn't
get compressFullBarRests in separate voices. And \hideNotes does not
work either. I tryed the new patch for ly/property-init.ly but it
didn't help. It's like R1 is acting difrenet then r1.
Thanks..

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Re: Hiding MultiMeasureRest

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Yes..i do it also as that.. \repeat unfold 8 {s1} in marks and R1*8 in
voices but when i want to print a separate voice instead of a full
score the bars wont compress..so instead of a bar with number 8 i get
8 bars..and if i use R1*8 in the marks i get good output on the rests
(compressed) but wrong output on the music (music as voice one and
rests as secend voice)..is my problem clear..?! So i tried hideNotes
couse i hoped that the rests as secend voice would wanish..:)

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Stjepan,

 I use this construction too but then with s1 in marks an R1 in the voices.

 Greetings, Ed

 2012/3/2, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
 Hello,
 Is there a possibility of hiding MultiMeasureRest.
 I am writing a Big Band Score and i am using

 marks = {
       \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
         \compressFullBarRests
         \hideNotes
       \partial 8 s8
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %9
       R1*8 \mark \default %17
         R1*8 \mark \default %25
       R1*8 \mark \default %33
       R1*8 \mark \default %41
       R1*8 \mark \default %49
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar || %57
       R1*8 \mark \default %65
       R1*8 \mark \default \bar ||  %77
       R1*8 \mark \default %85
       R1*12 \mark \default \bar || %97
       R1*8 \mark \default
       R1*12 \mark \default
       R1*7 %kraj
         R1
         \unHideNotes
       \bar |.
       }

 marks variable as sheme for bar lines and makrs.
 Then after i combine voices as  \tenorSax \marks .
 The problem is that if i would use \repeat unfold 8 { s1 } i wouldn't
 get compressFullBarRests in separate voices. And \hideNotes does not
 work either. I tryed the new patch for ly/property-init.ly but it
 didn't help. It's like R1 is acting difrenet then r1.
 Thanks..

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

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Is there a possibility of adding a keyboard shortcut for preview to the
page..I was writing something and when i wanted to compile the thing a
pressed F5 and that refreshed the page and i was on the begining..:) that
happend couple of times (frustrating) (i used vim for a while)..:P

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than
 this experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's
 a nice piece of work.
 
  The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep
 opening a PDF separately from the editor.
 

 Frescobaldi looks nice (although the pdf preview didn't work for me),
 I didn't mean to say anything against it. What I like about the web
 app is that one needn't install anything. I personally use vim and a
 shell script of my own for previewing. I wouldn't use either
 Frescobaldi or the web app for myself, I just meant the web app is
 great to give super-quick intro without having to install anything.

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Oh..sorry..now i saw it..CTRL+Enter(Return)..Thanks..

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a possibility of adding a keyboard shortcut for preview to the
 page..I was writing something and when i wanted to compile the thing a
 pressed F5 and that refreshed the page and i was on the begining..:) that
 happend couple of times (frustrating) (i used vim for a while)..:P

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 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than
 this experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's
 a nice piece of work.
 
  The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep
 opening a PDF separately from the editor.
 

 Frescobaldi looks nice (although the pdf preview didn't work for me),
 I didn't mean to say anything against it. What I like about the web
 app is that one needn't install anything. I personally use vim and a
 shell script of my own for previewing. I wouldn't use either
 Frescobaldi or the web app for myself, I just meant the web app is
 great to give super-quick intro without having to install anything.

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

[Stjepan Horvat]

This is very good..! I like it..I was searching for something like this for
days back..
I tryed it with jumnji-git and it works perfect..!



On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Stefan Vollmar voll...@nf.mpg.de wrote:

 It works very well with Safari 5.1.2 on the Mac, great stuff!
 Warm regards,
  Stefan

 On 01.02.2012, at 10:51, trevordixon wrote:

  I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find
 very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that
 it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as
 expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
 it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
 but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
 
  Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they
 save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.
 
  This could be useful for:
 
• Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess
 with.
• Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular
 development environment.
• Perhaps as your main editor someday.
  Future features might include:
 
• Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
• Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
• Open to suggestions.
  See it at: http://lily.sytes.net
 
  Let me know how it works for you!
 
 
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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

[Stjepan Horvat]

Maybe it would be a cool feature if you could import saved file as a
config..maybe http://lily.sytes.net/configfile.ly..i don't know if this
would be possible..just an idea..

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is very good..! I like it..I was searching for something like this
 for days back..
 I tryed it with jumnji-git and it works perfect..!



 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Stefan Vollmar voll...@nf.mpg.de wrote:

 It works very well with Safari 5.1.2 on the Mac, great stuff!
 Warm regards,
  Stefan

 On 01.02.2012, at 10:51, trevordixon wrote:

  I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find
 very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that
 it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as
 expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
 it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
 but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
 
  Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they
 save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.
 
  This could be useful for:
 
* Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess
 with.
* Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular
 development environment.
* Perhaps as your main editor someday.
  Future features might include:
 
* Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
* Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
* Open to suggestions.
  See it at: http://lily.sytes.net
 
  Let me know how it works for you!
 
 
  View this message in context: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
  Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: more scores one midi output

[Stjepan Horvat]

thank you for the anwser..this is very helpfull..:)

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 2012/1/17 Stjepan Horvat zvanste...@gmail.com:
  Hello,
  Is there a possibility to output more \score {} into one midi output.

 No but see:

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00218.html



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Re: Swing midi output

[Stjepan Horvat]

Thank you..:)

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Christopher R. Maden cr...@maden.orgwrote:

 On 01/14/2012 02:45 PM, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
  is there a possibility to swing the midi ouput in lilypond..so when i
  write a c8 c, would sound like \times 2/3 {c8 r c}..?!

 You can try my hack at URL: http://crism.maden.org/music/swing.ly ,
 which may or may not suffice for your purposes.  It only works on
 eighth-notes and -rests, and only works if pairs are beat-aligned.  This
 means that any dotted quarters, e.g., must be re-written as quarter
 notes tied to eighth notes, and an eighth note pick-up (anacrucis) must
 be rewritten as an eighth rest and eighth note.

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