Re: What's with WebLily? Registration working
On 10/7/2010 2:24 AM, weblily wrote: Hi Gordon, thanks for your sending me the requested information. I was able to reproduce the problem. The registration for new users was broken. I did not notice that because it has been working fine for registered users. Now registration is working again. Looking forward to your feedback. Cheers, Weblily -- http://www.weblily.net/ I just discovered weblily also, because of this thread. It looks great. I registered successfully and entered a lily file and it compiled the song without error. But is the point-n-click not working yet? It doesn't work from the code side or the pdf side. Maybe it's not enabled yet? Regards, Chip W ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics first word starts on second note of piece
Thanks Vicente, that was indeed the problem. Seems that I may have
encountered that in the past and didn't notice it in this piece, thanks
for pointing it out. I gotta remember to take that out of the template.
Regards,
chip
On 10/6/2010 1:20 PM, Vicente Solsona wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:06:39 +0200, Chip Wiegand
wrote:
I am having an issue with getting a lyric to align the first word
to the first note of the piece. I have even commented out all the
lyrics except the first two words of the two stanzas, but only the
first word of each stanza appears and it is under the second note of
the piece. I have included the code for the song below.
Regards,
Chip W
Chip, please read this before posting code examples:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
I think your problem comes from applying \global to the \lyrics
context. It looks like the autobeaming settings in \global are
interfering with the lyrics.
this tiny example works as expected:
\version "2.12.3"
global = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 4 'Staff)
}
staffMelody = \relative c'' {
\global % OK, it sets your desired autobeaming
g8 g g a16 b
}
theChords = \chordmode { g2 }
verseI = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = #"1. "
Are you just my im
}
\score {
<<
\context ChordNames { \theChords }
\new Staff {
\context Voice = "voiceMelody" { \staffMelody }
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsI" {
% \global <--- DOESN'T SEEM A GOOD IDEA. LYRICS CAN'T BE
"BEAMED"
\lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseI
}
>>
}
greetings,
Vicente
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lyrics first word starts on second note of piece
I am having an issue with getting a lyric to align the first word to
the first note of the piece. I have even commented out all the lyrics
except the first two words of the two stanzas, but only the first word
of each stanza appears and it is under the second note of the piece. I
have included the code for the song below.
Regards,
Chip W
code for the song so far -
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.3"
\header{
title = "Chatroom Girl"
composer = "Music and Lyrics by Chip Wiegand"
}
global = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
}
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ Engraved with LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version)
(http://lilypond.org/) Copyright 2010 Chip Wiegand}
}
\paper {
top-margin = 1.00\cm
page-top-space = 1.00\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 25\mm
line-width = 170\mm
}
staffMelody =
\relative c'' {
\global
\clef treble
\key g \major
\time 4/4
\tempo 4 = 120
g8 g %{g a16 b c8 c d e
d4 c b a
g8 g a b c c d e
d8 d c4 b a
g8 g16 g a8 b c c d e
d4 c b8 b a4
g8 g g a16 b c8 c d e
d4 c8 c b4 a~
a2. r4 \bar "||"
%[chorus]
c4^"Chorus" c16 c c c~ c4 b8 c
d8 e~ e d~ d4 r8 c
b8 b b4 b8 a b a
c8 c d c~ c4 r
c4 c16 c c c~ c4 b8 c
d8 e~ e d~ d4 r8 c
b8 b b4 b8 a b a
c8 c d c~ c4 r
c4 c16 c c c~ c4 b8 c
d8 e~ e d~ d4 r
\times 2/3 {b4 b b b a b}
c2. c4
c1
d4 d2.
g,2. r4
g8 g g a16 b c8 c d e
d4 c b a
g8 g a b c c d e
d8 d c4 b a
g8 g16 g a8 b c c d e
d4 c b8 b a4
g8 g g a16 b c8 c d e
d4 c8 c b4 a~
a2. r4 \bar "||" %}
}
theChords = \chordmode { g2 %{c2 d1
g2 c2 d1
g2 c2 d1
g2 c2 d1 d1
%chorus
c1 d1 g1 c1
c1 d1 g1 c1
c1 d1 g1 c1
c1 d1
g2 c2 d2 g2
g2 c2 d1
g2 c2 d1
g2 c2 d1
g2 c2 d1 d1
%chorus
c1 d1 g1 c1 c1
c1 d1 g1 c1 c1 %}
}
verseI = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = #"1. "
Are you %{just my im -- ag -- in -- a -- tion?
Or are you real?
I want to be -- lieve and trust you,
What does my heart feel?
We've ne -- ver met ex -- cept in chat -- ting,
Time keeps slip -- ping by.
Can we meet face to face and eye to
eye want to say hi!
%Chorus
I've fal -- len in love with a
chat -- room girl.
She says she lives on the oth -- er
side of the world.
I've fal -- len in love with a
chat -- room girl.
She says she wants to be part of
my lit -- tle world.
I've fal -- len in love with a
chat -- room girl.
think -- ing and dream -- ing of
her, my
dream, chat -- room girl.
%}
}
verseII = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = #"2. "
We meet %{on -- line and we chat all night,
hard to con -- cen -- trate.
My job and school are going down the drain
I hope she is real.
I have got to fig -- ure this out soon
Must get my mind straight.
And she has sto -- len my heart from me,
I think only "we." %}
}
\score {
<<
\context ChordNames { \theChords }
\new Staff { \global
\context Voice = "voiceMelody" { \staffMelody }
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsI" { \global
\lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseI
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsII" { \global
\lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseII
}
>>
\layout { }
}
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Re: guitar chord: add9 - how?
On 10/4/2010 6:48 PM, Jan Kohnert wrote: Chip Wiegand schrieb: Got it - I noticed you put a carot between the 9 and 7, so I did that and nothing else, and now the chord names displays as I would expect it to - Aadd9 That was what I suggested from the beginning. ;) Without wanting to start on online argument on the list, look at your original message - there is no carot symbol in your reply, as seen below. -- Chip add9 would be 9 without the seventh (the 9 includes the 7, as you surely know), so it would write: a4:97 -- MfG Jan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: guitar chord: add9 - how?
On 10/4/2010 6:23 PM, Jack Cooper wrote:
There's a snippet for this, but here's a rebroadcast:
chExceptionMusic = {
1-\markup { \super "add9" }
}
chExceptions = #(append
(sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions chExceptionMusic #t)
ignatzekExceptions)
Chords =
\chordmode {
\set chordNameExceptions = #chExceptions
d1:9^7
}
Got it - I noticed you put a carot between the 9 and 7, so I did that
and nothing else, and now the chord names displays as I would expect it
to - Aadd9
Thanks,
Chip
The exceptions you define applies to any chord of that voicing,
regardless of the key. I do
all of my exceptions in the key of C, for clarity.
--
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www.berlenmusic.com <http://www.berlenmusic.com>
www.jack-cooper.com
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Re: guitar chord: add9 - how?
On 10/4/2010 5:50 PM, Jan Kohnert wrote: Plase keep the discussion on list. Chip Wiegand schrieb: On 10/4/2010 5:13 PM, Jan Kohnert wrote: Chip Wiegand schrieb: I get this error - G:/Lilypond Files/Love Of My Life.ly:93:66: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING a1:m7 a1:m7 a1:m7 e4:m7 a4:add9 e4:m7 a4: add9 add9 would be 9 without the seventh (the 9 includes the 7, as you surely know), so it would write: a4:9^7 That is all true, but I must say I have never seen it written like that in any book with guitar chords or chord diagrams. Is it possible to make is actually say Aadd9? Lilypond sets add9, if you use the code I mentioned. I use \semiGermanChords in the \chordmode, I don't know, if that makes any difference... Thanks for the tip, but it still isn't correct - when I use this a4:97 I get the chord displayed as A9/add13 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
guitar chord: add9 - how?
I get this error - G:/Lilypond Files/Love Of My Life.ly:93:66: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING a1:m7 a1:m7 a1:m7 e4:m7 a4:add9 e4:m7 a4: add9 how do I rectify this? This also applies to suspended chords as well. Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
push beginning of second verse 8 measures into the song
I am working on a song that has the second verse starting midway thru the first verse, on a DS al Fine. I tried to place a \skip xx where xx is the number of notes to skip but only skipped a couple notes. What is the correct way to push the lyrics further into the melody skipping the first 8 bars of music? Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics insists on starting on second note, not the first note of the piece
On 9/18/2010 10:07 AM, -Eluze wrote: i think the \global has nothing to do in the Lyrics context - try to remove it! Thanks, that took care of it. I hadn't noticed that, it hasn't caused any problems in the other pieces I have written. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyrics insists on starting on second note, not the first note of the piece
I am working on a lead sheet - lyrics, notes, chordnames - but the
lyrics insist
on starting on the second note of the piece. I have done 4 other lead sheets
like this, using the same template, and they all work fine. The only
difference
I can see is this piece has the lyrics starting on the first note which
is also
on the first count of the measure, the other 3 pieces all had the first word
starting on the first note but not on the first beat, rather on beat 2.
I am sure this is something obvious to a more experienced lily user, and
probably a pretty simple error, but I am not seeing it.
Oh, one more question - are A9 and A add9 both the same chord on the guitar?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Chip W
Below is the code:
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.3"
\header{
title = "Do You Believe in Destiny"
composer = "Music and Lyrics by Chip Wiegand"
}
global = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
}
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ Engraved with LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version)
(http://lilypond.org/) Copyright 2010 Chip Wiegand}
}
\paper {
top-margin = 1.00\cm
page-top-space = 1.00\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 25\mm
line-width = 170\mm
}
staffMelody =
\relative c' {
\clef treble
\key e \major
\time 4/4
e4 r2 \times 2/3 {g8 a g}
a8 e~ e4 r2
e4 e r g16 a a g
e4 r r2
e4 e r \times 2/3 {g8 a g}
a8 e e4 r2
e'2. \times 2/3 {e8 d b}
b4 b2 r4
}
theChords = \chordmode { e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
e4 g4:6 a4:9 g4:6
}
verseI = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = #"1."
You al -- ways sur --
prise me.
Plus you nev -- er let me
be.
I feel quite o -- bli --
ga -- ted.
You al -- ways sur -- prise me!
}
verseII = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = #"2."
}
\score {
<<
\context ChordNames { \theChords }
\new Staff { \global
\context Voice = "voiceMelody" { \staffMelody }
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsI" { \global
\lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseI
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsII" { \global
\lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseII
}
>>
\layout { }
}
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Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?
Excellent, that's what I hoping for. Thanks, chip Aaron Dalton wrote: On 18/12/2009 5:31 PM, chip wrote: Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/12/18 chip : Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set up for working on music and lily. Windows or Linux? WinXP Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file upon Java. On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo. I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried under Documents and Settings etc etc etc. Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards. You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable, uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline. Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a location with no internet access. The settings folder is in your "home" folder (c:\windows\DaS\Username\.jedit) if I'm not mistaken. You can copy the main jedit folder (c:\program files\jedit) to a usb stick or something, and then manually copy the files in your home folder's "jars" directory to the "jars" directory in the main jars folder. I'm not sure about all the other folders in the .jedit folder or how they work. I carry on my usb drive a copy of the jedit installer and the few indispensable plugins I use. I just quickly install jedit, copy over the jars into the main jars folder, and I'm off. Yes, I have to redo my encoding and other global settings, but I'm quite used to it now. Hope that helps. Aaron ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/12/18 chip : Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set up for working on music and lily. Windows or Linux? WinXP Java can be installed from a file. Jedit can be installed from a file upon Java. On a computer with internet connection, install the jedit plugins and copy the settings folder where they live, I think this could trick to an existing jedit install making it to behave just as if the plugins were installed from the online plugin repo. I don't see a settings folder, did find a settings-backup folder buried under Documents and Settings etc etc etc. Can I just copy the entire .jedit folder from that directory and paste into a new install of jedit on the other computer? That would be the easiest thing to do, if it'll actually work afterwards. You could install it while online, then pull off the ethernet cable, uninstall, and try to install again from the files while offline. Can't install it offline, the computer I need it installed on is in a location with no internet access. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
off-topic somewhat: installing jedit/lilypondtool with no internet connection?
Is it possible to just download everything needed to make an install disk that includes jedit/lilypondtool/other plugins (I have 17 plugins installed)? I want to get a computer that has no internet connection set up for working on music and lily. Thanks, chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cadenza causes barcheck failure?
Thankyou for the reply - why is it that when I remove the " c1 | " from
the beginning and end of your corrected example I then get bar lines
throughout the cadenza? I don't want those c1's, they're not part of the
piece. Do I have to do some override to make the bar lines invisible?
Isn't that part of what \cadenza does (more or less)?
I don't understand why a \cadenza section, a completely free-form
unmetered cadenza, is causing problems with the other parts. My piece is
made up of 7 instrument parts. I've added the entire piece at the bottom
of this message.
(Oh, btw, there are no forced bar checks anywhere in my piece, so I
don't understand why I would get the failure.)
Thanks again,
Chip
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
chip wrote:
why would a
\cadenzaOn
c16^"Solo Free Time" d ef f g2. as4 gs g32 gs g8~ g1 g4 f16 ef d
f d ef c4 ef8 c16 d g,1 \bar "" c16 d ef f g2 g \glissando g' g16 f
ef d c b a g f e d c4 b2 e b16 e b1 \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff
cause a bar check failure?
It doesn't, at least not by itself! You can only get bar check
failures if you have bar checks, i.e. if you have inserted a | where
you expect the bar line to happen. I tried to turn your incomplete
example into something that can be ran directly in LilyPond, like
\version "2.12.0"
\include "english.ly"
\relative c'{
c1 |
\cadenzaOn
c16^"Solo Free Time" d ef f g2. as4 gs g32 gs g8~ g1 g4 f16 ef d f
d ef c4 ef8 c16 d g,1 \bar "" c16 d ef f g2 g \glissando g' g16 f ef d
c b a g f e d c4 b2 e b16 e b1 \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff
c1 |
}
and I don't see any bar check failures. It's much much easier to
provide relevant answers to a question like this if you include a
complete (but small) example of an .ly file that illustrates your
problem.
/Mats
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.2"
\header{
title = "Como"
composer = ""
arranger = ""
}
global = { \time 4/4
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
%\override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
% This setup should give me the maximum usable staffs per page %
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
% This script sets the 'footer' of the last page to show the current
date %
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
Baritone = \transpose d b
\relative c' {
\clef treble \global \key d \major
<<{\cadenzaOn
s1*8_\markup { \halign #-0 "Alto Sax Intro" } s2. \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff}{r1 \fermata}>>
e8 d r4 r8 b e d
e d r4 r e8 d
d2 cs
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
d8 cs r4 r8 cs d cs
d cs r d e4 d
b2 c
cs a \bar "||"
r4 e'8 d r2
r4 e8 d r8 d cs b
d4. d8 cs2
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
r4 d8 cs r2
r4 d8 cs r2
b2 c
cs a
r4 e'8 d r2
r4 e8 d r2
d4. d8 cs2
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
r4 d8 cs r2
r4 d8 cs r2
R1*3
R1
R1
R1
e4. d8 cs4. d8
e4 g fs e
fs1
R1 \bar "||"
r4 e8 d r2
r4 e8 d r2
d4. d8 cs2
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
r4 d8 cs r2
r4 d8 cs r2
R1*2 \bar "||"
e8 d r4 r8 b e d
e d r4 r e8 d
d2 cs
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
d8 cs r4 r8 cs d cs
d cs r d e4 d
b2 c
cs a \bar "||"
R1*4
e'4. d8 cs4. d8
e4 g fs e
fs1
R1 \bar "||"
r4 e8 d r2
r4 e8 d r2
d4. d8 cs2
a16 g a b cs b cs d e2
r4 d8 cs r2
r4 d8 cs r2
b2 c
cs a \bar "|."
}
Trombone = \relative c {
\clef bass \global \key d \major
<<{\cadenzaOn
s1*8_\markup { \halign #-0 "Alto Sax Intro" } s2. \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff}{r1 \fermata}>>
b'8 as r4 r8 fs b as
b as r4 r b8 as
as2 gs
e16 d e fs g fs g a b2
as8 gs r4 r8 gs as gs
as gs r gs b4 as
fs2 fs
gs e \bar "||"
r4 b'8 as r2
r4 b8 as r8 as gs fs
as4. a8 gs2
e16 ds e fs gs fs gs a as2
r4 as8 gs r2
r4 as8 gs r2
fs2 g
gs e
r4 b'8 as r2
r4 b8 as r2
as4. a8 gs2
e16 ds e fs gs fs gs a as2
r4 as8 gs r2
r4 as8 gs r2
R1*3
R1
R1
R1
gs4. fs8 e4. fs8
gs4 b a gs
a1
R1 \bar &qu
cadenza causes barcheck failure?
why would a \cadenzaOn c16^"Solo Free Time" d ef f g2. as4 gs g32 gs g8~ g1 g4 f16 ef d f d ef c4 ef8 c16 d g,1 \bar "" c16 d ef f g2 g \glissando g' g16 f ef d c b a g f e d c4 b2 e b16 e b1 \bar "||" \cadenzaOff cause a bar check failure? I've removed the \bar "" bits, but then the long line is placed on one staff and is cut off the page, and still causes a bar check failure. I've also replace the \bar "" with \break, but that doesn't work at all. From the manual - Unmetered music Bar lines and bar numbers are calculated automatically. For unmetered music (some cadenzas, for example), this is not desirable. To turn off automatic calculation of bar lines and bar numbers, use the command |\cadenzaOn|, and use |\cadenzaOff| to turn them on again. Apparently this doesn't work as described? This is causing me a big hassle. Surely there is a fix for this? Regards, chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cadenza at beginning of song
got it to work, now one more issue that I haven't found the answer to in
the docs - I cannot get the empy measure's wider than the default
(whatever that may be). I can add all the spacer notes I want, but the
measure never gets any wider. What do I have to do to make an empty
measure wider? Where did I miss this in the docs?
Thanks,
Chip
Got it to work like this -
TrumpetOne = %\transpose d e
\relative c'' {
\global
\cadenzaOn
s1*10^"Alto Cadenza" s2. \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff
f8 e r4 r8 cs f e
f e r4 r f8 e
e2 d
b16 as b cs d cs d e f2
e8 d r4 r8 d e d
e d r e f4 e
c2 cs
d b
Alto = %\transpose d b
\relative c'' {
\global
\cadenzaOn
c16^"Alto Cadenza" d ef f g2. bf4 af g2. f16[ ef d f] d ef
c2 d8 bf16 c g1 c16 d ef f g2 c8 b
a16 g \times 4/5 { f16[ e d c d] } e2 b c1~ c1 \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff
a8 g r4 r8 f a g
a g r4 r a8 g
g2 f
b16 as b c d c d e f2
g,8 f r4 r8 e a g
a g r g a4 g
e2 e
f g
Neil Puttock wrote:
2009/10/16 chip :
I am working on a song that has a free time cadenza at the beginning, but am
having a problem with the other instruments rests for the duration of the
cadenza.
Put the cadenza in a separate identifier (i.e., cadenza = \relative
c'' { ... } ), then you can use mmrest-of-length to create a full-bar
rest with the same length:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Special-rhythmic-concerns#Aligning-to-cadenzas
Also, the notes of the cadenza run to the right edge of the page
and disappear, the notes don't wrap down to create another staff.
Automatic line breaking relies on barlines, so you'll have to insert
invisible barlines (\bar "") where you're happy for a break to occur
(or force with \break).
Regards,
Neil
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cadenza at beginning of song
I am working on a song that has a free time cadenza at the beginning,
but am having a problem with the other instruments rests for the
duration of the cadenza. Also, the notes of the cadenza run to the right
edge of the page and disappear, the notes don't wrap down to create
another staff.
thanks -
Chip
Below is a fragment of the piece -
TrumpetOne = %\transpose d e
\relative c'' {
\global
R1
f8 e r4 r8 c f e
f e r4 r f8 e
e2 d
b16 as b c d c d e f2
e8 d r4 r8 d e d
e d r e f4 e
c2 cs
d b
}
Alto = %\transpose d b
\relative c'' {
\global
\cadenzaOn
c16 d ef f g2. bf4 af g2. f16[ ef d f] d ef c2 d8 bf16 c g1 c16 d ef
f g2 c8 b a16 g f e d c d e2 b c1~ c1 \bar "||"
\cadenzaOff
a8 g r4 r8 f a g
a g r4 r a8 g
g2 f
b16 as b c d c d e f2
g,8 f r4 r8 e a g
a g r g a4 g
e2 e
f g
}
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Re: website draft 4, help wanted
Tim McNamara wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: chip wrote: Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does anyone actually use it? Vista has the same steps but a different control panel. I don't have a Vista machine to get the exact steps. Graham, I'm with Chip here. Explicit, unambiguous, fool-proof. The question is whether these need to be on the Web page or in the readme that accompanies the file when the user downloads it. Putting them on the web page makes sure that the person downloading will see and read the instructions. Putting them in a readme gives no assurance that it will be read. Besides, does it really take up much space on the page? No harm in having it on the web page, IMO. Mark, I don't know if there is a difference between using the application uninstall or the control panel uninstall, though from what I've seen the general consensus is to preferably use the application uninstall, but I've never seen any reason given as to why. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: website draft 4, help wanted
I posted my previous message before you posted yours. Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does anyone actually use it? Vista has the same steps but a different control panel. I don't have a Vista machine to get the exact steps. Regards, Chip Graham Percival wrote: Thanks! I added this to the page, but are you certain you need all those steps, and/or are you certain the explanation needs to be as verbose as it is? I would expect most windows users to be familiar with things like accepting a license agreement or clicking the Next button. Also, is the first step true for all of ME, NT, 2000, XP, and Vista? Cheers, - Graham On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:48:21PM -0700, chip wrote: I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached. Hope this helps, Chip Graham Percival wrote: Here it is: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or git required. Guidelines on the Examples page. ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you guys as to who got to do this... - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few images, I'll be happy. - anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting / script modifying tasks. These are also listed on the "Help us" page. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - Installing Lilypond - - Download the latest package of Lilypond at http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.12.2-1.mingw.exe - Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it to start the installer. You will be presented a window titled "Open File - Security Warning", click on Run to continue. - You will be presented the License Agreement, read if desired, and click on the Next button. - Preferably leave the destination folder to the default, else browse to choose a different location, and click on the Next button. - Next is the Installation Options window, leave the three options checked, as you will want to have all of these installed. Click on the Next button. - Installation now commences, wait a minute or less for installation to complete. There is a Show Details button that when clicked on will show all the files installed and where, nothing you necessarily need to look at. Click on the Finish button. Lilypond is now installed. - Optional - Install a good editor with Lilypond support built in - JEdit is a fine application, is free (open source) and has very good Lilypond integration. - Uninstalling Lilypond - There are two uninstallation routes - 1. Choose Uninstall from the Lilypond menu from the start menu 2. Open your Install/Uninstall Applications on the Control Panel, scroll down to Lilypond and click on the Uninstall buttom. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Wow, that was quick, glad to see it was acceptable. Oh, I'm talking about the Windows installation instructions. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: website draft 4, help wanted
I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached. Hope this helps, Chip Graham Percival wrote: Here it is: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or git required. Guidelines on the Examples page. ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to arbitrate fights amongst you guys as to who got to do this... - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few images, I'll be happy. - anybody know python and/or perl? We have some scripting / script modifying tasks. These are also listed on the "Help us" page. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user - Installing Lilypond - - Download the latest package of Lilypond at http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/lilypond-2.12.2-1.mingw.exe - Locate the downloaded file and double-click on it to start the installer. You will be presented a window titled "Open File - Security Warning", click on Run to continue. - You will be presented the License Agreement, read if desired, and click on the Next button. - Preferably leave the destination folder to the default, else browse to choose a different location, and click on the Next button. - Next is the Installation Options window, leave the three options checked, as you will want to have all of these installed. Click on the Next button. - Installation now commences, wait a minute or less for installation to complete. There is a Show Details button that when clicked on will show all the files installed and where, nothing you necessarily need to look at. Click on the Finish button. Lilypond is now installed. - Optional - Install a good editor with Lilypond support built in - JEdit is a fine application, is free (open source) and has very good Lilypond integration. - Uninstalling Lilypond - There are two uninstallation routes - 1. Choose Uninstall from the Lilypond menu from the start menu 2. Open your Install/Uninstall Applications on the Control Panel, scroll down to Lilypond and click on the Uninstall buttom.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Alberto Simões wrote: Heh... Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Anthony (et al.), DON'T assume web browsers are full screen! +1 +1 Just because more and more people have big screens. Cheers +1 more. BTW, I like the way the new site is progressing, the pages are starting to have a single coherent theme throughout. Looks good. Regards -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Graham Percival wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:35:16PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:16 PM, chip wrote: Here is an example of what I meant - http://www.wiegand.org/lilytest/lilytest.html Thanks so much! I didn't know what you were talking about, so this example was very useful. Yes, that *does* look nice. I like it! Anything looks better than those navigation tables. Plus, I cannot figure out what to do with them (style-wise). Graham, do you think we should hide more of the navigation tables (@menu...@end menu), and replace them with these new columns? I'm beginning to think so... although this would be one point *against* a uniform layout: - the home page is special My thoughts are that the home page is just fine the way it is. But the other top level pages - Advertising, Download, Manuals and Community - could all benefit from a uniform style - the colored boxes like on the Manuals page. The the sub pages Contact, Development and News all look nice - minimal yet still have a hint of the parent page style. It's gives a coherent look and 'feel' to the site as a whole. IMO, the style of the pages MacOSX and Source should be carried out through all the sub-pages - header followed by the colored box basic description followed by the body text. Regards, Chip ... Let's see where we are in 24-36 hours; at the very least I want to finish the things that are currently in my mind. After that, we might end up with neat ideas that get dropped due to lack of resources... unfortunate, but that's life in open source. :| Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Graham Percival wrote: -- - |Contact | | News | | Minimal Examples | |. Bug Reports| | Press | |___| |Help Wanted | | Thanks | |Developement | - -- This makes no sense to me. Please remember that 80-character terminals are the polite assumption to make when sending emails. Cheers, - Graham Here is an example of what I meant - http://www.wiegand.org/lilytest/lilytest.html Hope that helps, Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
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Re: new website: draft 3
Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 28, 2009, at 2:55 AM, chip wrote: I think there is obviously far too much white space, also the same on the Downloads page. I disagree and find that most web pages have too much stuff crammed into them, usually so much that it's hard to find the information one is looking for. I like the simplicity of the page and I don't even think the separator lines are necessary. If you want to see the mother of layout nightmares, look at the GoDaddy.com pages. Jeebus, those suck. I agree with you, but, there is a happy medium. I think the Manuals page is it. I thing it's also important to minimize the use of Javascript (unless you're doing Ajax), drop-down menus, etc. Most of that stuff can be done with HTML which loads faster and works with more browsers more predictably. Avoid cute for the sake of cute. Usability is the thing of key importance and not how nifty people will think the code is. Again, I agree. There are ways to get drop-down menus without javascript, which I think should be, and can be, avoided for the entire site. Usability is the number 1 priority indeed, but appearance has to be up there as well. A simple site that looks attractive and contains a well balanced design can still be a very usable site. Lilypond is a very impressive program, and an overly simplistic web site would do it no justice whatsoever. IMHO. Regards, -- Chip As for the "Advertizing" (sic) tab, how about "Is LilyPond for you?" Or is that too long? If it is, how about "Using LilyPond"? Or even somethng bland like "Overview"? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Graham Percival wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:51:04AM -0700, chip wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:55 AM, chip wrote: I think there is obviously far too much white space, also the same on the Downloads page. Does this mean "not enough content on the page", or "the margins, padding, etc. are too tall/wide"? If it's the latter, at what resolution are you viewing the site (1024x768, 1280x1024, etc.)? My screen is an old 17" crt set to 1024x768. I think there is not enough content on the page. Please don't say "not enough content on the page" when we're asking you what that means! hmm, I just answered Patricks question with his own statement.in the quotes in his own quoted remarks. Content of course refers to text and images that make up the visual representation of the web page, what the visitor see's on his/her own screen.. The Manuals, Advertising and Home pages are all well-balanced in content-to-space. Maybe something like the Manuals page - multiple colored boxes - Hmm... are you trying to say that you prefer two-column pages to one-column pages? I agree that the two-column pages work quite well, so perhaps we should make all (or almost all) pages use this. Was that what you meant? Yeah, I really like the look of the Manuals page. I think that should be carried out to the other pages as well. But then I like that have a single 'look' or layout theme, carried out through all of their pages, makes reading the site much easier. Leaves the visitor with one visual, coherent memory of the site if all the pages are designed with the same theme. Personally, I think sites that have a different look to each page as messy, careless in their design work, not well thought out. But of course that's just my opinion. -- - |Contact | | News | | Minimal Examples | |. Bug Reports| | Press | |___| |Help Wanted | | Thanks | |Developement | - -- This makes no sense to me. Please remember that 80-character terminals are the polite assumption to make when sending emails. heheh, sorry. Obviously my attempt at showing 3 boxes was a big mistake. Oh well, you get the idea anyway. -- Chip Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:55 AM, chip wrote: - Community is still a work in progress, although at the moment I'm not planning on changing the sections. If you think something's missing, let me know. I think there is obviously far too much white space, also the same on the Downloads page. Does this mean "not enough content on the page", or "the margins, padding, etc. are too tall/wide"? If it's the latter, at what resolution are you viewing the site (1024x768, 1280x1024, etc.)? My screen is an old 17" crt set to 1024x768. I think there is not enough content on the page. The Manuals, Advertising and Home pages are all well-balanced in content-to-space. Maybe something like the Manuals page - multiple colored boxes - -- - |Contact | | News | | Minimal Examples | |. Bug Reports| | Press | |___| |Help Wanted | | Thanks | |Developement | - -- Something like that to spread the menu items across the page, grouped, loosely, on some relationship to each other. -- Chip The menu doesn't do anything for me, it seems very plain, maybe that's the way you want it? I assume you are talking about the top navigation bar. It *is* very plain, but I'm not sure how I would make it flashier, or if that's even a good idea. The site is using a "liquid layout", where the the top navigation bar stretches to fill the width of browser window, so there are limited options for using gradients and other techniques you find in fixed-width sites (like apple.com). But there are options. I'll look into it. We're also planning on replacing "Home" with a miniature LilyPond icon, so that will help. Thanks, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: new website: draft 3
Graham Percival wrote: Yo. http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html - no, I don't think that "Advertizing" is a good name. Suggestions are desired. This chapter (or "tab") is aimed at people who don't know if they want to use lilypond or not. We stick enticements (and some warnings) in here. What should we call it? Throwing out a few suggestions - Information About General Info What is Lilypond? - there is no search-box functionality yet. - what do you think of the new Manuals page? Personally, I like having color-coded backgrounds (in addition the title bars), but let's see what people think. I like the color coding of the sections. Will the individual pages contain the actual manual or a link to the manual? I think it should contain the actual manual with a link to a downloadable version of it. - Community is still a work in progress, although at the moment I'm not planning on changing the sections. If you think something's missing, let me know. I think there is obviously far too much white space, also the same on the Downloads page. The menu doesn't do anything for me, it seems very plain, maybe that's the way you want it? Is there a reason for not using drop-down menus on a mouse rollover? Otherwise I like the way the new site is progressing. -- Chip Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: thanks to whomever put this in the LSR...
Ian Hulin wrote:
Hi Reinhold,
I'm having a look at seeing if I can pick up the work Marek Klein did
on -devel. It covered amending the coded generating output file
suffixes to allow users to code user-specified names as the suffix.
It changes the function print-with-book in file lily-library.scm so
one of the internal variables uses a Scheme alist.
How much more work would it be to implement Patrick's suggestion below?
.
.
.
But it would be nice to have an option to override the file-name for
any arbitrary book. Something like
\book {
\paper {
output-file-name = "Blah"
}
\score {
...
}
}
.
.
.
As I understand it, the above would allow allow you to have a file
called something like "mozsym40.ly" and use
\paper {
output-file-name="SinfoniaK550"
}
to generated SinfoniaK550.pdf, .png, .mid, .midi or whatever.
I am a user very interested in the outcome of this as I use multiple
\book in all my songs. Being able to have the naming scheme work out
like this would be great -
filename - Beseme Mucho.ly
output names of separate \books - Beseme Mucho.pdf .midi etc (the full
score)
Beseme
Mucho-Tenor.pdf .midi etc
Beseme
Mucho-Alto.pdf .midi etc
Beseme
Mucho-Trumpet1.pdf .midi etc
etc etc
Basically what the system currently does except dropping the -n from the
name and replacing it with the variable the user wants added. I don't
use \bookpart anywhere, just \book. I don't know anything about scheme,
so I won't be able to help there, but I can help with testing if need be.
Anyway, that's just my input, whatever help it may be.
Regards,
Chip W
If you were using a file with multiple \bookparts or \score blocks,
1. should output-file-name in these blocks replace the definition in
the \book \paper block (if present) to produce Allegro.pdf, .midi
or
2. should it act like #(define output-suffix "Allegro") so you
produce a file SinfoniaK550-Allegro.pdf, .midi etc? Or
3. should we have a separate output-file-suffix property to do this
trick, which would be for use only in \bookpart blocks?
I'm trying to get a clear idea of what would be clearest for users
before I send myself cross-eyed looking at the code.
Any opinions/pointers to set this Frog off in the right direction are
welcome.
Cheers,
Ian Hulin
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
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See
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-02/msg00833.html
and followups for the previous discussion on the topic. As far as I can
see, an implementation proposal is already available, just to commit.
Hmm, it seems that this has been completely forgotten... Does anyone
have the time to put the finishing touches on the patch? In
particular, get rid of the global var and properly use the variable
from the parser-lookup, also the comment is no longer valid.
Cheers,
Reinhold
- -- -
--
Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com,
http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/
* Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
* http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
* LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org
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Re: scoop before note
In all my years of playing jazz I've never seen a scoop placed above a
note. I was messing about with using a
\relative c {
\once \override Slur #'positions = #'(-7 . -7)
c'2 \hideNotes \grace c8( \unHideNotes f4) g8 a
}
but no matter what numbers I put in the positions parameters the slur
does not move. Obviously -7 is way off, but doesn't matter, they have no
effect. I wanted to see how such a thing would look, it anything like a
scoop - the gracenote would be hidden but the slur would be left
visible. The move the slur slightly left so the right end is just to the
left of the notehead.
--
Chip
Robin Bannister wrote:
Lewis Overton wrote:
I'm curious about what others are doing to print a "scoop"
I have an occasional need for this when transposing saxophone parts,
and then I use brackettips as you do/did [1].
I first did such bends in a clumsy beginners way and had to put the
brackettips in a dedicated auxiliary voice.It was cumbersome to
set up but obediently predictable, which was in contrast to my
frustrating attempts trying to tame \bendAfter.I never perservered
with bendAfter; there was no corresponding bendBefore, and it is
important to have the same style for all bends.
But my lowlevel Lilypond has improved, and I recently had another go,
which turned out a lot simpler, especially the scoop:
2.12 #(define (scoop-stencil grob)
(ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:note-head::print grob) 0 -1
(grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:with-dimensions '(0 . 0) '(0 . 0)
#:translate '( -2 . -2) #:musicglyph "brackettips.up" )) 0 0 ))
scoop = \once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #scoop-stencil
The key to this approach is the zero with-dimensions. It is of
course a trick which lets notehead and stem stay together. And since
it invites collisions, it may well be condemned by layout purists.
But IMO it works well for the saxophone parts. It leaves the
notecolumn spacing undisturbed; this is in keeping with my perception
of these bends as articulations, i.e. lightweight qualifications.
Collisions are fairly rare, mainly because the sax doesn't do chords,
but also because these bends occur mostly on quarter and half notes;
for beamed eighths I have a fixed override for widening the preceding
stem. And the scoops are more or less below any accidentals.
Cheers,
Robin
[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-04/msg00123.html
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Re: scoop before note
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Lewy,
I'm curious about what others are doing to print a "scoop"
I'm not using them at all... but have you tried directly manipulating
a BendAfter grob?
\version "2.12"
scoopMusic = \relative
{
\override BendAfter #'rotation = #'(-45 -4 3)
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #4.0
c-\bendAfter #8
}
\score { \scoopMusic }
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
That works in a rather kludgy way. I've been playing with the numbers
trying to get it to look just right. Takes a lot of trial and error to
get it close, but not 'right'. Adding a note before the tweak requires
refiguring the numbers, lots of trial and error involved in getting it
in the correct position. That is an articulation that I would like to
see work correctly and added to lilypond, wouldn't it be just the
opposite of the \bendafter articulation? But my guess is it's not going
to be that simple.
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Re: adding to LSR the thumbnail image is not correct
Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/6/3 Jonathan Kulp : Did you ever sort this out, Chip? If not please attach a source file and I'll give it a go. If it's `Template for multiple instruments, prints a score and parts' in the list of pending snippets there are too many \book blocks. I suggest commenting out the section following `% comment all these \book lines if no score is needed %%'. Regards, Neil Thanks Neil, That fixed it. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
thanks to whomever put this in the LSR...
I was just browsing around in the LSR and found this very useful bit that is just fantastic, I hadn't come across it in any docs - LM, NR, or IR (I did a browser Edit/Find for output-suffix on all of those) - #(define output-suffix "you-put-something-here") It's for use in a multi-bookpart .ly file that generates multiple .pdf files. Typically the file names are appended with -1, -2, -3, etc which isn't very helpful. That little bit of code lets you append any bit of text to the file name, so instead of filename-1.pdf you get filename-you-put-something-here-1.pdf Here's where it's located to save someone the time to dig it up - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=389 I don't know who added this to the LSR, but Thankyou very much, you just saved me much extra work as I have had to manually edit many, many file names to include the instrument name for that particular part. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
adding to LSR the thumbnail image is not correct
I have added my template to the LSR but the thumbnail image that appears is not correct. I have tried as both Standalone Snippet and as Large Snippet. Is there something I can do to fix this so the thumbnail appears as it should? Regards, chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: looking for examples
Lewis Overton wrote:
... It's more the assembly that has me stumbling around looking for
light.
Lewy
Lewy,
Below I've pasted in my template I use for a horn section that includes
2 trumpets, 3 saxes and 2 'bones. It creates a full score and the
individual parts. Another user, Bill, says this template was just what
he was looking for just the other day. Look for the thread titled
"transposing, etc" in the mailing list archives to see the entire
message. Load it up and take a look at it, I think you will find it will
do pretty much what you need.
Regards,
Chip
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.13.0"
\header{
title = ""
composer = "As Recorded By: "
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
}
global = { \time 4/4 \key c \major
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
%\override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
% This setup should give me the maximum usable staffs per page %
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
% This script sets the 'footer' of the last page to show the current
date %
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
% -- Trumpet 1--
trpta = {
a b c d
}
trumpeta = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 1"
\clef treble
<< \trpta >>
}
% -- Trumpet 2--
trptb = {
a b c d
}
trumpetb = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 2"
\clef treble
<< \trptb >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 1 --
altoa = {a b c d
}
altosaxa = %{\transpose c a%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
<< \altoa >>
}
% -- Tenor--
tenor = {a b c d
}
tenorsax = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tenor"
\clef treble
<< \tenor >>
}
% -- Bari--
bari = {a b c d
}
barisax = %{\transpose c a%} \relative c''{
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Bari"
\clef treble
<< \bari >>
}
% -- Trombone 1--
tbonea = {a b c d
}
trombonea = \relative c {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 1"
\clef bass
<< \tbonea >>
}
% -- Bass Trombone--
tboneb= {a b c d
}
tromboneb = \relative c {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bass Trombone"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 2"
\clef bass
<< \tboneb >>
}
% This section creates the seperate pdf files for each horn %
\book { \score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "trumpets" <<
\new Staff = "trpta" \trumpeta
\new Staff = "trptb" \trumpetb >>
\new StaffGroup = "saxes" <<
\new Staff = "altoa" \altosaxa
\new Staff = "tenor" \tenorsax
\new Staff = "bari" \barisax >>
\new StaffGroup = "trombones" <<
\new Staff = "tbonea" \trombonea
\new Staff = "tboneb" \tromboneb>>
>> } }
% comment all these \book lines if no score is needed %%
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "trumpeta" \with { \remove
Instrument_name_engraver } \trumpeta >> \header {piece="Trumpet 1"}
\layout { indent = 0\mm} } }
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "trumpetb" \with { \remove
Instrument_name_engraver } \trumpetb >> \header {piece="Trumpet 2"}
\layout { indent = 0\mm} } }
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "altosaxa" \with { \remove
Re: transposing etc
Bill Mooney wrote:
Greetings,
...
As an aside - could readers comment on how they arrange their workflow
when transcribing scores from hand written originals (which is what I
am cureently doing) - do you enter all the notes first to check the
accuracy of note entry, then add articulations, markups etc later, or
do you enter each note with its ties, slurs, markups, etc as you
proceed through the piece? Any comments would be gratefully received.
Many thanks
Bill
Bill,
I transcribe tejano/texmex songs, the horn parts, or the
keyboard/accordian parts into horn parts for a 7 piece horn section. I
made a template for my lilypond files which I've included below, just
copy/paste into your text editor and take a look at it. As for the
transpositions - I put the \key \major stuff in the \global section and
the \transpose in the notes section, initially commented out, you'll see
in the code below.
My template includes parts for 7 horns, prints out the individual
parts and a full score. Or just comment out the bottom section to not
print the full score.
My method of transcribing is to listen to the song to get familiar
with the various parts I will be transcribing, write down on staff paper
the lead horn part, usually trumpet, for the entire piece. Then I go
back and do the harmony parts and counter parts if any. I usually write
the articulations etc as I write the rough draft. Once I have the rough
draft finished I then enter the notes into lily and work from there,
adding articulations, slurs, etc. There is a lot of compiling/viewing
the pdf as I go through this process. But I can do a complete song in as
little as a few hours for one of not too much difficulty. I'm not a
keyboardist, so I use a guitar and write all my parts in concert key,
whatever the recording key is. After I have all the parts completed in
lily and I see, in the score, all the harmonies are correct, I then
uncomment the transpose commands, and test the parts by playing my tenor
sax on the trumpet and tenor parts. I play my alto sax to test the alto
and trombone parts.
Hope this helps,
--
Chip
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.1"
\header{
title = ""
composer = "As Recorded By: "
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
}
global = { \time 4/4 \key c \major
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
%\override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
% This setup should give me the maximum usable staffs per page %
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
% This script sets the 'footer' of the last page to show the current
date and lily info %
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
% -- Trumpet 1--
trpta = {
a b c d
}
trumpeta = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 1"
\clef treble
<< \trpta >>
}
% -- Trumpet 2--
trptb = {
a b c d
}
trumpetb = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 2"
\clef treble
<< \trptb >>
}
% -- Alto Sax --
altoa = {a b c d
}
altosaxa = %{\transpose c a%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
<< \altoa >>
}
% -- Tenor Sax--
tenor = {a b c d
}
tenorsax = %{\transpose c d%} \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tenor"
\clef treble
<< \tenor >>
}
% -- Bari Sax--
bari = {a b c d
}
barisax = %{\transpose c a%} \relative c''{
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Bari"
\clef treble
<< \bari >>
}
% -- Trombone --
tbonea = {a b
Re: jEdit changes file unexpectedly
Bertalan Fodor wrote: It might be opened not in UTF-8. See in the lower right corner. You can make sure it is loaded in the correct encoding, by using File > Open with encoding... I've had the same problem with one file as well - the title of a song is Cariño Nuevo. The ñ gets changed to n everytime. I finally gave up on changing it and just leave it as a regular n. BTW, my files are all opened/saved as UTF-8, everytime, so I thought. After all, in the bottom corner it showed UTF-8. I then went to File/Open/Commands/Encoding, and it always defaulted to Auto and cP1252. I'd change it, but found that I had to do that every time I opened a file. I finally found in Utilities/Global Options/Encodings that that is what the default was set to. I changed it to UTF-8 and now it opens the files correctly. Helge, maybe that is your issue as well? -- Chip Cheers, Bert Helge Kruse írta: Hello, I have found a problem with jEdit (probably LilypondTool). I just write a .ly source that contains the word "Pincé". I saved the file yesterday. Today I wanted to continue and see that this word has been changed to "Pincé". That's a bit annoying. The "Pincé" is a playing instruction and should be a markup. Do you know a way to save the spelling of it? Since it appears at several places, it's not easy to fix it every time I re-open the file. Regards, Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?
Tim McNamara wrote:
I'm not sure that the relative mode "gets forgotten" but that LilyPond
follows its own internal rules. I find that LilyPond behaves the way
that the manual says it does: it picks the closest pitch. If I write
{ c2 a2 } it picks the A below that C rather than the A above that C.
If I want the A above the C, I write { c2 a'2 } and all is well.
Sometimes when I first compile the song there are pitches wildly out
of their intended octave; then it's a matter of finding the proper
places to change the pitch octaves with ' or , and the problem is
usually solved with two or three of these. Pretty quick and simple
without needing to resort to sticking \relative commands into the
middle of the music information- something I hate doing because it
makes it hard to "debug" the song.
Here is an example of the issue I came across -
r4 r8 ef~ ef d c bf
a4. g8~ g2~
g2-- r
In any mode the tied notes are the same octave, of course. But for
whatever reason, with the \transpose and the \relative split as
originally described, they were in different octaves, which obviously,
broke the ties. Putting the \transpose ef f \relative c' together fixed
the problem. With the \transpose and \relative split there were quite a
few random instances of such odd octave issues, some would be just a
single note or two, others 3 or 4 measures of music where almost every
other note jumped octaves up and down. It's really a weird thing to see.
In my template I typically use \transpose x x \relative x but for
whatever reason I don't even recall now I moved the \transpose up to the
notes section of the code. I think what I did was entered the notes of
the tenor sax part in their actual tenor sax key (and all other
instruments in concert key), then \transposed them, the tenor sax notes,
down to concert key for the purpose viewing the score entirely in
concert key. Thus the tenor sax part had the really wicked octave issue.
Regards
--
Chip
I used the following template for all my transcriptions of texmex and
tejano music (for a 7 piece horn section)-
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.2"
\header{
title = " "
composer = "As Recorded By: "
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
}
global = { \time 4/4 \key bf \major
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
tagline = \markup {
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
\with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
% -- Trumpet 1--
trpta = {}
trumpeta = \transpose bf c \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 1"
\clef treble
<< \trpta >>
}
% -- Trumpet 2--
trptb = {}
trumpetb = \transpose bf c \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 2"
\clef treble
<< \trptb >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 1 --
altoa = {}
altosaxa = \transpose bf g \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
<< \altoa >>
}
% -- Tenor--
tenor = {}
tenorsax = \transpose bf c \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tenor"
\clef treble
<< \tenor >>
}
% -- Bari--
bari = {}
barisax = \transpose bf g \relative c''{
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Bari"
\clef treble
<< \bari >>
}
% -- Trombone 1--
tbonea = {}
trombonea = \relative c {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 1"
\clef bass
<< \tbonea >>
}
% -- Trombone 2--
tboneb= {}
tromboneb = \relative c {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 2"
\clef bass
<< \tboneb >>
}
\book { \score {
<<
\new StaffGroup = "trumpets" <&
Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?
Patrick McCarty wrote:
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chip wrote:
Chip wrote:
I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all
works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one
part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves are all messed
up. The only way to fix them is to use absolute octave marks in small
sections, usually only a few measures, to get the song to print correctly.
Then for whatever reason, after those few measures the rest of the song is
just fine. This seems to be completely random, has happened in a couple
different songs, in different versions of lilypond.
Has anyone seen this kind of behavior? Just seems rather odd.
--
Chip
I found the problem - I had the \relative c and the \transpose ef f bits
seperated like this -
bari = \transpose f ef {
e4-- e8-- e8-- e4-. r
... stuff
}
barisax = \relative c' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Bari"
\clef treble
<< \bari >> %I've been told I don't need the << >> here in this usage
but without them I get errors
}
After I moved the \relative c' up to the same line as the \transpose the
octave problems were fixed. It appears that the two have to be together, not
seperated like I had them.
I think this is the issue mentioned in the Known Issues for Chapter
1.1.2 "Transpose" in the Notation Reference. However, the two
sentences included there are very confusing and should be rewritten to
make the issue more clear.
-Patrick
Yes, I see what you mean. Not sure I understand it myself.
--
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Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?
Chip wrote:
I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it
all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste
from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves
are all messed up. The only way to fix them is to use absolute octave
marks in small sections, usually only a few measures, to get the song
to print correctly. Then for whatever reason, after those few measures
the rest of the song is just fine. This seems to be completely random,
has happened in a couple different songs, in different versions of
lilypond.
Has anyone seen this kind of behavior? Just seems rather odd.
--
Chip
I found the problem - I had the \relative c and the \transpose ef f bits
seperated like this -
bari = \transpose f ef {
e4-- e8-- e8-- e4-. r
... stuff
}
barisax = \relative c' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Bari"
\clef treble
<< \bari >> %I've been told I don't need the << >> here in this
usage but without them I get errors
}
After I moved the \relative c' up to the same line as the \transpose the
octave problems were fixed. It appears that the two have to be together,
not seperated like I had them.
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relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?
I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves are all messed up. The only way to fix them is to use absolute octave marks in small sections, usually only a few measures, to get the song to print correctly. Then for whatever reason, after those few measures the rest of the song is just fine. This seems to be completely random, has happened in a couple different songs, in different versions of lilypond. Has anyone seen this kind of behavior? Just seems rather odd. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bug causing this barcheck failure?
Chip wrote: Jan Kohnert wrote: Chip schrieb: In 4/4 time this code results in a barcheck failure - g,4. fs2. f4. e2. yet this code, the same output, does not cause a barcheck failure - g,4~ g8 fs8~ fs2 f4~ f8 e8~ e2 You know, that the examples are NOT equal? Equal to the second one would be: g,4. fs8 ~ fs2 f4. e8 ~ e2 There is no 4/4 timing possible in the first example as it is 9/8 in each line... After looking at it some more I see what you mean, a double-dotted half note should be the correct notation, but it also doesn't work. I'll just stick with the way it is working now. -- Chip No, I'm still wrong, it appears it would have to be a half-dot which doesn't exist. heheh. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: bug causing this barcheck failure?
Jan Kohnert wrote: Chip schrieb: In 4/4 time this code results in a barcheck failure - g,4. fs2. f4. e2. yet this code, the same output, does not cause a barcheck failure - g,4~ g8 fs8~ fs2 f4~ f8 e8~ e2 You know, that the examples are NOT equal? Equal to the second one would be: g,4. fs8 ~ fs2 f4. e8 ~ e2 There is no 4/4 timing possible in the first example as it is 9/8 in each line... After looking at it some more I see what you mean, a double-dotted half note should be the correct notation, but it also doesn't work. I'll just stick with the way it is working now. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
bug causing this barcheck failure?
In 4/4 time this code results in a barcheck failure - g,4. fs2. f4. e2. yet this code, the same output, does not cause a barcheck failure - g,4~ g8 fs8~ fs2 f4~ f8 e8~ e2 I'm guessing this is a bug? -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 4/28/09 4:42 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" wrote: Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Thanks for the offer, Chip. I've just finished a preliminary run through all of the snippets. I downloaded the tarball of the entire repo and ran them through the convert-ly script, then did a looping script that ran lilypond on each updated snippet using 2.12.2 and saved the terminal output for each in a text file. Cool -- I didn't know you were up enough on scripting to do that kind of work! I think such a script should be added to scripts/auxiliar so that we have it to use the next time we want to do an update. (And you just demonstrated that you have two of Larry Wall's attributes of a good programmer: laziness and hubris. Good for you!) This was a very simple script. I learned a good bit of scripting with the help of Patrick Horgan a while back when I was writing my lily2image script. Here's the script for any interested folks (first I did "convert-ly -e *.ly" on the whole directory): #!/bin/bash #*# # Run Lilypond on a lot of files and save # # the terminal output in text files # #*# for LILYFILE in *.ly do STEM=$(basename "$LILYFILE" .ly) echo "running $LILYFILE..." lilypond --format=png "$LILYFILE" >& "$STEM".txt rm "$STEM".ps done --- I chose png format b/c the ristretto image viewer on xubuntu allows for very quick paging through all of the images in a directory, much quicker than going through a bunch of pdfs. After running the script on the directory with all the snippets in it, I run this command to find snippets that didn't compile: grep failed *.txt It reads the terminal output from all the files and brings back the ones that failed. Cool! I still think that you ought to put it all (including the grep part) into a single script and store it in the source tree. And it ought to be added to the CG so that we have it tracked for the next time we release a stable version (I assume it will happen quickly, once Graham gets home from Singapore -- although maybe going to Scotland doesn't qualify as "home"). The results were pretty good, really. About 95% of the snippets compiled and look the same as they did in 2.10. Two snippets didn't compile at all, but I've already taken care of one of them (adding-octaves-automatically) because I've had to fix that one on some of my own files before. The convert-ly script took the \octaves command as if it were an octave check instead of a user-defined macro. I've changed the \octaves command in the original LSR code to \makeOctaves, which will survive the convert-ly update intact. This probably also indicates a need to change the convert-ly rule for \octave. If it doesn't work for \octaves, it also wouldn't work for \octaveAdjustFunction, or some other user-defined variable that starts with \octave. This should be either fixed or added to the issue tracker to get fixed. Yes, I was thinking the same thing but I don't know how to change the convert-ly rules. It was easier for me just to change \octaves to \makeOctaves. Any Frog willing to take on this convert-ly rule fix? You have a file that you can use to see if you have fixed the rule. There are also some snippets that work but should be changed to reflect changes in 2.12. I know of two snippets that have to do with lead sheets (Chords, Fret Diagrams, melody, and lyrics) that should be changed to use \predefinedFretboards and a FretBoards context, instead of using \markup \fret-diagram. I'm not sure if there are others. There may be one related to auto-beaming. I'm not sure what a good process on this is, but I think at a minimum, we should look at NEWS for 2.12 and see if there are any NEWS items related to each of the snippets. That's why I estimated 15 minutes per snippet (I wasn't thinking of automation, which I should have). We should check each of the snippets and see if the snippet is made obsolete or should be changed to reflect new features added, not just check to see if the syntax is right. Yes, to do it properly we'll need to examine each one more carefully. My idea with this is simply to find out which snippets are broken in 2.12 and get them at least to compile, so that the LSR could be switched to 2.12 and then the snippets can be checked out more carefully after that. Is that a good strategy? No, it's a *great* strategy. Get the easy work done quickly, so there's nothing us keeping from moving the LSR, then do the careful work at our leisure. Thanks for taking the lead on this. Chip, are you still willing to do some work reviewing the converted snippets? Carl Y
Re: adding to the LSR
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Chip wrote: Jon Thanks for the info. Just out of curiosity - why isn't the LSR kept up-to-date with the latest release? The lastest stable release is 2.12.2 according to the lily homepage, yet the LSR Contributing page says it is running 2.10.12 and at the same time says it always runs the latest stable release. -- chip There are plans to upgrade it to 2.12 but it hasn't happened yet. I don't understand all of the technical issues but one of the problems was discussed on a recent thread, which is that someone has to check all the snippets to make sure they compile under 2.12. I might be doing some of this soon but haven't started in earnest. Jon If you need some assistance let me know, I have some time available as I'm not working right now (yep, I'm one of the bazillions of unemployed). -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Chip wrote: It normally means your snippet is incompatible with the version of LilyPond being run on LSR (2.10.12) or needs either `Standalone snippet' or `Large snippet' ticked. If you still can't get it working, please post it here and I'll give it the once over. Regards, Neil Thanks Neil, I have tried with just plain text in the description and selected Standalone and again selected Large and again selected neither of those two options, I've tried with html and plain text, with and without a code sample in the description, choose a directory or no directory, just can't get it to go through. Regards, Chip Chip, just FYI, I figured out why your original code wouldn't compile on LSR. It was the \numericTimeSignature command. This is a command Graham came up with for version number 2.11.43 or somewhere around there, IIRC. LSR runs 2.10. For numericTimeSignature on 2.10 you need this instead: \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'() Jon Thanks for the info. Just out of curiosity - why isn't the LSR kept up-to-date with the latest release? The lastest stable release is 2.12.2 according to the lily homepage, yet the LSR Contributing page says it is running 2.10.12 and at the same time says it always runs the latest stable release. -- chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Jonathan Kulp wrote:
Chip wrote:
Thanks Jon,
I got those parameters from a Linus manpage and tested all of them
and more, and the ones listed below work as expected. There were
several others that did not work on the Lilypond output. That is why
I think these should be listed, so someone doesn't try one of the
others that didn't work, then have to do the troubleshooting testing
to find out which ones do/don't work. I already did that. Below is
the list of tested/usable parameters -
Got it. I didn't realize some of the parameters wouldn't work. I've
put your code into the snippet so I guess it's done now. I'm not sure
if you can edit it yourself or not. If you can't, and you decide you
want something changed, let me know and I'll change it for you.
BTW for future reference you can probably get snippets to work
yourself if they contain only the minimal code necessary to prove your
point. In this case it compiled after I replaced all your music code
with the old standby:
\relative c' { c d e f }
Your original file compiled fine on my machine but wouldn't compile on
the LSR. Anyway thanks for working on this. :)
Jon
Thanks Jon,
You're right, I can't edit the snippet in the LSR, but that should be fine.
thanks for your help.
Regards,
Chip
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Re: adding to the LSR
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Chip, One more option is to place the date in the footer, or as it is called in Lilypond - the tagline. This is not accurate: the tagline and the footer are two different things. (Check the docs to see what each of them are.) Please correct the LSR snippet accordingly, so we don't have inaccurate information in there. Thanks, Kieren. Thanks for the tip. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Chip wrote: Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/4/26 Chip : Hmm, did run into an apparent error - after I click on the Save button I get a pop-up box that says "No output from Lilypond", did I do something wrong? Probably not. :) It normally means your snippet is incompatible with the version of LilyPond being run on LSR (2.10.12) or needs either `Standalone snippet' or `Large snippet' ticked. If you still can't get it working, please post it here and I'll give it the once over. Regards, Neil Thanks Neil, I have tried with just plain text in the description and selected Standalone and again selected Large and again selected neither of those two options, I've tried with html and plain text, with and without a code sample in the description, choose a directory or no directory, just can't get it to go through. Regards, Chip Below is what I am trying to add to the LSR - Hi Chip, I've added your snippet to the repo but had to modify it to get it to work, since I had the same troubles you had. I simplified the musical part drastically, and that's what finally made it compile. I also left off all of the stuff about changing the parameters of the date format, because it came out as a big jumbled mess. If you'd like to send that part of your description with some html formatting commands I'll be happy to add it back in there. For now I just said the format of the date can be changed according to the parameters found in the date manpage on Linux/Unix systems. I did add markup to the first three paragraphs of your description but didn't have time to do that to all of the lines in the date formatting. Thanks Jon, I got those parameters from a Linus manpage and tested all of them and more, and the ones listed below work as expected. There were several others that did not work on the Lilypond output. That is why I think these should be listed, so someone doesn't try one of the others that didn't work, then have to do the troubleshooting testing to find out which ones do/don't work. I already did that. Below is the list of tested/usable parameters - The format of the date can be changed according to these parameters: %a - is replaced by the locale's abbreviated weekday name. %A - is replaced by the locale's full weekday name. %b - is replaced by the locale's abbreviated month name. %B - is replaced by the locale's full month name. %c - is replaced by the locale's appropriate date and time representation. %d - is replaced by the day of the month as a decimal number [01,31]. %I - is replaced by the hour (12-hour clock) as a decimal number [01,12]. %j - is replaced by the day of the year as a decimal number [001,366]. %m - is replaced by the month as a decimal number [01,12]. %M - is replaced by the minute as a decimal number [00,59]. %p - is replaced by the locale's equivalent of either a.m. or p.m. %U - is replaced by the week number of the year (Sunday as the first day of the week) as a decimal number [00,53]. %w - is replaced by the weekday as a decimal number [0,6], with 0 representing Sunday. %W - is replaced by the week number of the year (Monday as the first day of the week) as a decimal number [00,53]. All days in a new year preceding the first Monday are considered to be in week 0. %x - is replaced by the locale's appropriate date representation. %X - is replaced by the locale's appropriate time representation. %y - is replaced by the year without century as a decimal number [00,99]. %Y - is replaced by the year with century as a decimal number. %Z - is replaced by the timezone name or abbreviation, or by no bytes if no timezone information exists. Regards, Chip You can find the snippet once you're in the database by typing "current" in the title field and clicking "enable filter." The snippet is called "adding the current date to a footer or tagline." Best, Jon No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2081 - Release Date: 04/26/09 09:44:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Neil Puttock wrote:
2009/4/26 Chip :
Hmm, did run into an apparent error - after I click on the Save button I get
a pop-up box that says "No output from Lilypond", did I do something wrong?
Probably not. :)
It normally means your snippet is incompatible with the version of
LilyPond being run on LSR (2.10.12) or needs either `Standalone
snippet' or `Large snippet' ticked. If you still can't get it
working, please post it here and I'll give it the once over.
Regards,
Neil
Thanks Neil,
I have tried with just plain text in the description and selected
Standalone and again selected Large and again selected neither of those
two options, I've tried with html and plain text, with and without a
code sample in the description, choose a directory or no directory, just
can't get it to go through.
Regards,
Chip
Below is what I am trying to add to the LSR -
*Title:* Adding the date to the tagline (footer)
*Directory:* blank
*Tag 0:* Text
*Tag 1:* Titles
*Tag 2:* Tweaks and Overrides
*Text Type:* Pure Unicode
*Description:*
There are a couple ways to get the current date in your score - using
scheme and a header that suits you (as found in LSR "Titles Adding the
current date to a score"), or placing the same scheme code in a
\markup block.
One more option is to place the date in the footer, or as it is called
in Lilypond - the tagline. This places the date at the very bottom of
the page and appears like this -
Engraved on April 26, 2009 with Lilypond 2.12.2 (http://lilypond.org)
The format of the date can be changed according to these parameters:
%a
is replaced by the locale's abbreviated weekday name.
%A
is replaced by the locale's full weekday name.
%b
is replaced by the locale's abbreviated month name.
%B
is replaced by the locale's full month name.
%c
is replaced by the locale's appropriate date and time representation.
%d
is replaced by the day of the month as a decimal number [01,31].
%I
is replaced by the hour (12-hour clock) as a decimal number [01,12].
%j
is replaced by the day of the year as a decimal number [001,366].
%m
is replaced by the month as a decimal number [01,12].
%M
is replaced by the minute as a decimal number [00,59].
%p
is replaced by the locale's equivalent of either a.m. or p.m.
%U
is replaced by the week number of the year (Sunday as the first day
of the week) as a decimal number [00,53].
%w
is replaced by the weekday as a decimal number [0,6], with 0
representing Sunday.
%W
is replaced by the week number of the year (Monday as the first day
of the week) as a decimal number [00,53]. All days in a new year
preceding the first Monday are considered to be in week 0.
%x
is replaced by the locale's appropriate date representation.
%X
is replaced by the locale's appropriate time representation.
%y
is replaced by the year without century as a decimal number [00,99].
%Y
is replaced by the year with century as a decimal number.
%Z
is replaced by the timezone name or abbreviation, or by no bytes if
no timezone information exists.
*The Lilypond source code snippet (it must compile!)*: (btw, it does
compile even without the version 2.12.2 number) -
\include "english.ly"
\header{
title = "Title"
composer = "Composer"
arranger = "Arranger"
}
global = { \time 2/4
\numericTimeSignature
}
\paper {
}
tagline = \markup {
Engraved on
\simple #(strftime "%x at %X" (localtime (current-time)))
with \with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
% -- Trumpet--
trpt = \relative c'' {
a4 b c d
}
trumpet = {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt"
\clef treble
\trpt
}
% -- Alto Sax--
alto = \relative c'' {
a4 b c d
}
altosax = {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
\alto
}
% -- Tenor Sax--
tenor = \relative c'' {
a4 b c d
}
tenorsax = {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tenor"
\clef treble
\tenor
}
\book { \score {
<<
\new Staff = "trpt" \trumpet
\new Staff = "alto" \altosax
\new Staff = "tenor" \tenorsax
>>
} }
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "trumpet" \with { \remove
Instrument_name_engraver } \trumpet >> \header {piece="Trumpet"} \layout
{ indent = 0\mm} } }
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "altosax" \with { \remove
Instrument_name_engraver } \altosax >> \header {piece="Alto Sax"}
\layout { indent = 0\mm} } }
\book { \score { << \new Staff = "tenorsax" \with { \remove
Instrument_name_engraver } \tenorsax >> \header {piece="Tenor Sax"}
\layout { indent = 0\mm} } }
\layout { \context { \Score } }
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Re: adding to the LSR
Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/4/26 Chip : When I conclude my addition to the LSR, do I click on the Save button or the OK button? Does it make a difference? I just want to make sure I don't loose my work, but that it gets properly inserted into the LSR. The only difference between the two options is that `OK' takes you back to the main menu, whereas `Save' stays with the snippet. Regards, Neil Hmm, did run into an apparent error - after I click on the Save button I get a pop-up box that says "No output from Lilypond", did I do something wrong? Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding to the LSR
Neil Puttock wrote: 2009/4/26 Chip : When I conclude my addition to the LSR, do I click on the Save button or the OK button? Does it make a difference? I just want to make sure I don't loose my work, but that it gets properly inserted into the LSR. The only difference between the two options is that `OK' takes you back to the main menu, whereas `Save' stays with the snippet. Regards, Neil Excellent, thanks, much appreciated. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
adding to the LSR
When I conclude my addition to the LSR, do I click on the Save button or the OK button? Does it make a difference? I just want to make sure I don't loose my work, but that it gets properly inserted into the LSR. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
table of contents page numbers are all question marks
In using the sample code from NR 3.2.4 Table Of Contents I get all my
page numbers as question marks. Even the example shows all the page
numbers are page 1. There is no info on how to get the page numbers to
increment, or how to manually insert the page numbers. (I did search the
archives and used google but found no answer.) My code is provided below.
Regards,
Chip
--
\version "2.12.2"
\header { tagline = ##f }
\paper {
tocTitleMarkup = \markup \huge \column {
\fill-line { \null "Song List" \null }
\hspace #1
}
%% use larger font size
tocItemMarkup = \markup \large \fill-line {
\fromproperty #'toc:text \fromproperty #'toc:page
}
}
\book {
\markuplines \table-of-contents
\tocItem \markup { Algun Dia (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Carino Nuevo (Royal Jesters) }
\tocItem \markup { De Que Te Quejas Mi Amor (David Lee Garza) }
\tocItem \markup { El Reganado (Sunny & the Sunliners) }
\tocItem \markup { Intro (Street Player) (Chicago) }
\tocItem \markup { La Que Se Fue (Jimmy Edward) }
\tocItem \markup { Malos Enganos (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Mi Cumbia, Mi Salsa (Ram Herrera) }
\tocItem \markup { Mi Lupita (Bob Gallarza) }
\tocItem \markup { Mi Qui Quito Mantecon (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Muchachita Color Canela (Ram Herrera) }
\tocItem \markup { Por Esa Es Calle Vive (Roger Valazquez}
\tocItem \markup { Que Bien Te Miras (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Que Vivan Los Tejanos (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Te Regalo El Corazon (Rudy Palacios) }
\tocItem \markup { Todo Dicen (Jimmy Edward) }
\tocItem \markup { Vuela La Paloma (Latin Express) }
}
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Re: date in footer?
Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 05:10:11PM -0700, Chip wrote: I didn't want to print something in the titles, I wanted to print something in the footer. Am I being nitpicky here? To me those are two different sections of a page. \markup is \markup. Look at the first example on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-titles See all those \markups ? ... in fact, see the version number in the output? ... for that matter, did you see the "Note that you may use any Formatting text, commands in the header." ? Including a link to the \markup explanation in NR 1.8 ?! I still think this is a PEBKAC. What's a PEBKAC? I've never seen that before. Anyway, I still find it hard to relate the footer to titles and headers, it just doesn't make sense to me to include it with those. In my way of thinking the footer is a separate entity and should be treated as such. Irregardless, in this entire thread I found only one example that did what I was looking for and I posted that reference long ago. It's not in any of the documentation, and that's the problem. I couldn't find the info on putting the date in the footer in the docs but did find it in a referred to sample code. Why can't such sample be in the docs? It would certainly simplify things for us learning lilypond. And maybe we wouldn't ask so many questions on a list that is meant for asking questions where we just get arguments and references to stuff that really doesn't help much. If it weren't for the fact that the other notation apps suck so bad I be using one of 'em just to avoid this list. It's nothing but negative attitudes here. Rather than helping people right from the beginning it's 'look at NRsuch-n-such' or 'look at LMsuch-n-such'. Fine, give us the reference, but also give us some real help and examples because that is what's sorely missing from the docs. As far as I'm concerned this is the end of this thread, reply if you want, but I am finished with it. -- Chip - Graham No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2078 - Release Date: 04/24/09 07:54:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: date in footer?
Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 01:50:04PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Op donderdag 23-04-2009 om 19:45 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Graham Percival: Maybe this should be added to the docs somewhere? Maybe you should learn to read the docs? It's already in there. I did, see my original post. As Chip didn't find it: Maybe someone should fix the docs? I did find it, see my original post. 1. Hmm, I want to do something special. I'd better look in the Snippets. 2. Hmm, I want to print something special in the titles (i.e. the date and version number). I'd better look in Titles. I didn't want to print something in the titles, I wanted to print something in the footer. Am I being nitpicky here? To me those are two different sections of a page. 3. Great gallumphing gargantum giraffes! The VERY FIRST MAOING ITEM is "adding the current date to a score". Well, clearly those lilypond documentation people are utterly incompetent. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Titles Not wanting to start a fight, but I did mention in my original post that I did find that code and it doesn't do what I was asking for. That puts the date in a text block, my request was for it to be in the footer. Putting the date in a text block puts it directly below and to the left edge of the last staff and looks ugly there. And I'm sure there is a way to move that text block anywhere one wants it, but putting it in the footer makes the most sense. To me anyway (and at least one other person who replied as well). Regards, Chip I will admit that "outputting the version number" appears in the Text list, rather than the titles. In fact, both snippets should appear in both Text and Titles, but currently they're only in one list. "Somebody" should fix this. Now, remember all those times I asked for volunteers for LSR, and all those times that you all said "yeah, it would be nice if somebody did that", and deleted those emails? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The current person responsible for LSR also happens to be the most active patch-reviewer. Do you *really* want me to ask him to stop working on patches (i.e. new features, bug fixes, etc) and waste his time playing web-2.0 games that anybody with TWO BLOODY WEEKS OF LILYPOND EXPERIENCE could do?! As I was saying yesterday, anything can be done if there's enough interest. The readers of lilypond-user have spoken (by not volunteering for this job) -- there is not sufficient interest in having better-organized snippets. Frankly, organizing snippets is one of the easiest, most fun ways to get involved. That was actually my first job in this project, and I'm utterly flabbergasted (and royally pissed) that nobody is interested in doing it. - Graham No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.3/2076 - Release Date: 04/23/09 06:30:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: date in footer?
Thanks for the link, I got this bit of code from his work -
--
tagline = \markup {
Engraved on
\simple #(strftime "%b %d, %Y" (localtime (current-time)))
with \with-url #"http://lilypond.org/web/";
{ LilyPond \simple #(lilypond-version) (http://lilypond.org/) }
}
-
Which results in a tagline that looks like this -
Engraved on Apr 22, 2009 with Lilypond 2.12.2 (http://lilypond.org/)
Maybe this should be added to the docs somewhere?
Regards,
--
Chip
Nick Payne wrote:
Have a look at the engraving of Reubke's organ sonata done by Wilbert
Berendsen. It does exactly what you are asking for.
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-04/msg00560.html
Nick
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Subject: date in footer?
I found the part in the snippets for adding a /text block with the date
in it, but can I add the date to the existing footer? So it shows the
Lilypond info/website and also the date? Wouldn't a simple addition of
some code to the .ly file that handles that footer do the trick? If so,
what would said code be?
Thanks,
Chip
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date in footer?
I found the part in the snippets for adding a /text block with the date in it, but can I add the date to the existing footer? So it shows the Lilypond info/website and also the date? Wouldn't a simple addition of some code to the .ly file that handles that footer do the trick? If so, what would said code be? Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I don't remember how to do this ...
Thanks Carl,
That's what I needed. Has this been simplified in the last year or two?
Seems I recall there was a need to use two /transposes in the past.
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Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
On 4/10/09 9:28 AM, "Chip" wrote:
I have two trombone parts written in concert key - F Maj - and just
realized that the notes are one step too high. I don't recall how to
transpose a part without changing the key signature. If I recall
correctly it involved two /transposes, is that right? Can someone help
me? Here's how I lay out my code -
It's quite simple. Just keep the transpose command after the key signature.
I'd suggest that you replace << \tboneb>> with
\transpose d c \tboneb
(You don't need the << >>, because you aren't setting parallel music, and I
think it's best not to have it, as it's not needed).
Carl
% -- Trombone 1--
tbonea = { all the notes of the piece }
trombonea = \relative c {
\global
\key f \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 1"
\clef bass
<< \tbonea >>
}
% -- Trombone 2--
tboneb= { all the notes of the piece }
tromboneb = \relative c {
\global
\key f \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 2"
\clef bass
<< \tboneb >>
}
Thanks,
Chip
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I don't remember how to do this ...
I have two trombone parts written in concert key - F Maj - and just
realized that the notes are one step too high. I don't recall how to
transpose a part without changing the key signature. If I recall
correctly it involved two /transposes, is that right? Can someone help
me? Here's how I lay out my code -
% -- Trombone 1--
tbonea = { all the notes of the piece }
trombonea = \relative c {
\global
\key f \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 1"
\clef bass
<< \tbonea >>
}
% -- Trombone 2--
tboneb= { all the notes of the piece }
tromboneb = \relative c {
\global
\key f \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 2"
\clef bass
<< \tboneb >>
}
Thanks,
Chip
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Re: is this markup no longer applicable?
Got it working, the order of the whole thing was wrong. Here's how it should be - R2*31 \bar "||" \once \override Voice.MultiMeasureRestText #'extra-offset = #'(-7 . 1) R2^"Fine" Leave out the \property, move \override before the Voice. Now I have the Fine centered over the double bar. Thanks for the tips. -- Chip Kieren MacMillan wrote: Chip: The word Fine just stays put over the rest, no matter what numbers I put in there. I think you're looking for MultiMeasureRestText, not TextScript. HTH! Kieren. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2040 - Release Date: 04/03/09 17:54:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: is this markup no longer applicable?
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Chip: The word Fine just stays put over the rest, no matter what numbers I put in there. I think you're looking for MultiMeasureRestText, not TextScript. HTH! Kieren. Thanks for the reply. Doesn't matter what I put in there - when I run it I get an error that it doesn't like '\property' G:/Lilypond Files/Rufalina.ly:36:6: error: unknown escaped string: `\property' \once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'(2 . -5) R2^"Fine" Same error if I replace TextScript with MultiMeasureRestText. (I've done this before, maybe a year or more back, um, no, it's been even longer than that, but don't have those files anymore to refer to.) Regards, Chip No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.283 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2040 - Release Date: 04/03/09 17:54:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: is this markup no longer applicable?
Nick Payne wrote:
You can use tweak:
R2-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(2 . 0)^\markup { Fine }
Nick
Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately it is not working. The word
Fine just stays put over the rest, no matter what numbers I put in there.
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Subject: is this markup no longer applicable?
I am trying to move 'Fine' just a bit to the left and am using this
markup -
\once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'(2 . -5)
What I want is the 'Fine' over the double bar -
R2*31 \bar "||"
\once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'(2 . -5)
R2^"Fine"
but it throughs up an error. Is it no longer supported? (I'm sure I've
missed the relevant section in the docs, as usual).
Thanks,
Chip
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is this markup no longer applicable?
I am trying to move 'Fine' just a bit to the left and am using this markup - \once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'(2 . -5) What I want is the 'Fine' over the double bar - R2*31 \bar "||" \once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset = #'(2 . -5) R2^"Fine" but it throughs up an error. Is it no longer supported? (I'm sure I've missed the relevant section in the docs, as usual). Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: whole rest in 5/4 bar?
Kieren MacMillan wrote: How do I designate a whole rest in a 5/4 measure? I am getting barcheck failures with R1 and also with R1 r4 I'm sure it's something simple I'm missing here. R4*5 Thanks, I expected it would be something simple. -- Chip Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.278 / Virus Database: 270.11.12/1998 - Release Date: 03/12/09 18:23:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
whole rest in 5/4 bar?
How do I designate a whole rest in a 5/4 measure? I am getting barcheck failures with R1 and also with R1 r4 I'm sure it's something simple I'm missing here. Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: glissando up from no note to a note
Thanks for the suggestions, I was sent the following code which does the
job beautifully -
r2*1/2 \hideNotes d8\glissando \unHideNotes a'8 fs d b
Seems a bit overly complicated for adding something so simple don't ya
think? I'll have to look for some info in the docs on the time
distortion, I haven't come across it previously. Sounds like something
from a sci-fi movie. ;)
regards,
Chip
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Why not use an invisible grace note to start the glissando? Then,
there's no need to fiddle with the timing:
\transpose c c'{
\grace{ \hideNotes g,8\glissando \unHideNotes} c'4 c'4 c'4 r4 |
\grace{\hideNotes c''8\glissando \unHideNotes} c'4 c'4 c'4 r4 |
a1\fermata \grace{\hideNotes d'4\glissando \unHideNotes }|
ees8->[ c8]-> r4 r2 |
}
Well, to answer my own question, the hidden grace note will be so
close to the following note, that the resulting glissando might look
too short. One possible workaround is to include more hidden notes (or
spacer notes) in the \grace{...}:
\grace{ \hideNotes g,8\glissando s s \unHideNotes} c'4 c'4 c'4 r4 |
/Mats
Robin Bannister wrote:
Chip wrote:
it just resulted in messed up measures
A judicious use of time distortion may help you here.
\transpose c c'{
\hideNotes g,32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
\hideNotes c''32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
a1*3/4\fermata \hideNotes d'4\glissando \unHideNotes |
ees8->[ c8]-> r4 r2 |
}
And then patiently adjust padding and minimum-length ...
Cheers,
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Re: glissando up from no note to a note
Robin Bannister wrote:
Chip wrote:
it just resulted in messed up measures
A judicious use of time distortion may help you here.
\transpose c c'{
\hideNotes g,32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
\hideNotes c''32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
a1*3/4\fermata \hideNotes d'4\glissando \unHideNotes |
ees8->[ c8]-> r4 r2 |
}
It appears the problem I am having has to do with the durations of the
notes - your example uses quarter notes, I am using eighth notes. The
7/8 fraction doesn't work, and I don't know how you came up with that
fraction. Here is my error -
---
G:/Lilypond Files/Te Regalo el Corazon.ly:48:0: warning: barcheck failed
at: 31/32
--
--
Chip
And then patiently adjust padding and minimum-length ...
Cheers,
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Re: glissando up from no note to a note
And this is relevant to the subject? How? Any suggestions on fixing the
real problem I'm having with the glissando?
--
Chip
Here is the fixed version, without the irrelevant <<>> -
-
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.1"
\header{
title = "Te Regalo el Corazon"
composer = "As Recorded By: Rudy Palacios"
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
}
global = { \time 4/4
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
%\override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
% -- Trumpet 1--
trpta = {
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
r2 a'8 fs d b
c2 r8 e~ e4
R1*4
R1*2
R1*2
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d d
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
r2 a'8 fs d b
c2 r8 e~ e4
R1*4
R1*2
R1*2
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
R1
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
R1
R1*2
r8 b, d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d4 d16 e f fs
g8 \bar "|."
}
trumpeta = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 1"
\clef treble
<< \trpta >>
}
% -- Trumpet 2--
trptb = {
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
g16 g r g r g a8~ a2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
trumpetb = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 2"
\clef treble
<< \trptb >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 1 --
altoa = {
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
e'16 e r e r e fs8~ fs2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
altosaxa = \relative c'' {
\global
\key d \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
<< \altoa >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 2 -
%{
altob = {
% Notes here -
a b c d
}
altosaxb = \transpose c a \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto 2"
\clef treble
<< \altob >>
}
%}
% -- Tenor--
tenor = {
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
tenorsax = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tnr Sax"
\clef treble
<< \tenor >>
}
% -- Bari--
bari = {
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
g16 g r g r g a8~ a2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
barisax = \relative c''{
\global
\key d \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Btn Sax"
\clef treble
<< \bari >>
}
% -- Trombone 1--
tbonea = {
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
trombonea = \relative c {
\global
\key f \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trombone 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tbn 1"
\clef bass
<< \tbonea >>
}
% -- Trombone 2--
tboneb= {
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
e16 e r e r e fs8~ fs2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
tromboneb = \relati
Re: glissando up from no note to a note
Robin Bannister wrote:
Chip wrote:
it just resulted in messed up measures
A judicious use of time distortion may help you here.
\transpose c c'{
\hideNotes g,32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
\hideNotes c''32\glissando \unHideNotes c'4*7/8 c'4 c'4 r4 |
a1*3/4\fermata \hideNotes d'4\glissando \unHideNotes |
ees8->[ c8]-> r4 r2 |
}
And then patiently adjust padding and minimum-length ...
Cheers,
Robin
Been experimenting with the code found in the snippets library and seems
that where ever I put the \cadenzaOff I get different, incorrect
results. Sometimes the first eight note turns into a quarter note,
sometimes it's an eight note, but always the measure and the one that
follows are all one measure. I've pasted the code to the work in
progress below.
Thanks,
chip
-
% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.12.1"
\header{
title = "Te Regalo el Corazon"
composer = "As Recorded By: Rudy Palacios"
arranger = "Transcribed by: Chip Wiegand"
}
global = { \time 4/4
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #'#(#t #t #t)
%\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility = #end-of-line-invisible
%\override Score.BarNumber #'self-alignment-X = #-1
\override Glissando #'thickness = #3
\override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #6
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
}
\paper {
top-margin = 0.1\cm
page-top-space = 0.1\cm
ragged-bottom = ##t
left-margin = 20\mm
line-width = 175\mm
}
% -- Trumpet 1--
trpta = {
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
r2 \cadenzaOn \hideNotes a8\glissando \unHideNotes a'8 fs d b\cadenzaOff
c2 r8 e~ e4
R1*4
R1*2
R1*2
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d d
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
r2 a'8 fs d b
c2 r8 e~ e4
R1*4
R1*2
R1*2
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
R1
R1*3
r2 r8 gs~ gs4
R1*4
R1
R1*2
r8 b, d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d4 d16 e f fs
g8 \bar "|."
}
trumpeta = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 1"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 1"
\clef treble
<< \trpta >>
}
% -- Trumpet 2--
trptb = {
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
g16 g r g r g a8~ a2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
trumpetb = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Trumpet 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Trpt 2"
\clef treble
<< \trptb >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 1 --
altoa = {
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 gs' gs e
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 e' e e
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
e'16 e r e r e fs8~ fs2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
altosaxa = \relative c'' {
\global
\key d \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto"
\clef treble
<< \altoa >>
}
% -- Alto Sax 2 -
%{
altob = {
% Notes here -
a b c d
}
altosaxb = \transpose c a \relative c'' {
\global
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto Sax 2"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Alto 2"
\clef treble
<< \altob >>
}
%}
% -- Tenor--
tenor = {
r2 r8 d d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 d' d b
e d c-. b16 a-. r8 c c c
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
c16 c r c r c d8~ d2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
tenorsax = \relative c'' {
\global
\key g \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Tnr Sax"
\clef treble
<< \tenor >>
}
% -- Bari--
bari = {
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1
r2 r8 b b g
e' d c-. b16 a-. r8 a a a
d c b8.-. a16 gs2
R1*2
r8 b d-. fs~ fs d b g
g16 g r g r g a8~ a2 \bar "||"
R1*7
}
barisax = \relative c''{
\global
\key d \major
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bari Sax"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"Btn Sax"
\clef treble
<< \bari &
glissando up from no note to a note
I want to make a glissando go up from no note to a note. I tried using a spacer note, it didn't work. I tried using hideNote and unHideNote (basically reversed the sample in the snippets list) but it just resulted in messed up measures. There is no example in the documentation on how to do this. Any suggestions? Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR one big page is messed up
Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Chip wrote: The most recent attempt to load the web page docs - http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page - throws up this error message - Content Encoding Error The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Strange. It loads fine for me and it has loaded fine for the other posters to this thread. I am using Camino (based on Mozilla) and Safari 3.2.1 on Mac OS X 10.4.11. Could there be a problem with your computer or your connection to the Internet (e.g., a proxy server, overzealous firewall or other security software, etc.)? After many many forced refreshes it appears Ad-Watch Live! (part of Adaware) is the problem, but not everytime, now that I've forced refresh many times. -- chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR one big page is messed up
The most recent attempt to load the web page docs - http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page - throws up this error message - Content Encoding Error The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. -- Chip Patrick McCarty wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index also does not load correctly. These two pages load correctly for me. Have you tried deleting your browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh? -Patrick __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR one big page is messed up
Chip wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index also does not load correctly. These two pages load correctly for me. Have you tried deleting your browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh? -Patrick Nope, a forced refresh doesn't do it, neither does using a browser that I've never used for visiting the lily web site - IE. In fact, it won't load the pages at all, throwing up an error like this - Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: * You are not connected to the Internet. * The website is encountering problems. * There might be a typing error in the address. What you can try: Diagnose Connection Problems <#> <#> More information In firefox some of the docs load okay, others don't, they load partially, then suddenly blow up. Clearing browser history didn't fix anything either. I'm downloading the docs .tar file right now. -- chip I've downloaded the docs twice now and get this both times - ! C:\Documents and Settings\Chip\Local Settings\Temp\lilypond-2.12.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2-1.tar: CRC failed in C:\Documents and Settings\Chip\Local Settings\Temp\lilypond-2.12.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2-1.tar. The file is corrupt Don't know what to do next to view the docs. -- Chip __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com . __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: NR one big page is messed up
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 08:37:22PM -0700, Chip wrote: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index also does not load correctly. These two pages load correctly for me. Have you tried deleting your browser's history and cache, or doing a forced refresh? -Patrick Nope, a forced refresh doesn't do it, neither does using a browser that I've never used for visiting the lily web site - IE. In fact, it won't load the pages at all, throwing up an error like this - Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: * You are not connected to the Internet. * The website is encountering problems. * There might be a typing error in the address. What you can try: Diagnose Connection Problems <#> <#>More information In firefox some of the docs load okay, others don't, they load partially, then suddenly blow up. Clearing browser history didn't fix anything either. I'm downloading the docs .tar file right now. -- chip __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 6/8 time triplets problem
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Chip wrote: In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it the way I have it? In 6/8 time if you have three quarters they fit perfectly in the bar without making them triplets. Just put the quarter notes in there three to a bar and you're done. If you put three quarters in the space of two using a triplet, then you still lack one quarter-note value to fill up the bar. Jon You're right. I am notating a handwritten transcription and that is how the arranger wrote out his notes. I should've thought of that, guess the arranger should've as well. Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 6/8 time triplets problem
In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it the way I have it? -- Chip Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Chip, In the following code the triplets do not work properly 1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it compile correctly --- in this case, you omitted the time signature (6/8, I'm inferring) and the \include "english.ly". there are two measures of quarter note triplets followed by a dotted half note - they all end up in one measure together. That's because Lilypond is doing exactly what you've asked it to do, in light of the \times 2/3 command. What are you hoping to see in those bars? Kieren. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
NR one big page is messed up
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page Doesn't load correctly, sometimes not at all. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/LilyPond-index#LilyPond-index also does not load correctly. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 6/8 time triplets problem
In 6/8 time, as mentioned in the subject so no inferring necessary, I want triplet quarter notes, 3 quarters over 2 counts, per bar. A total of 6 quarter notes, triplets, in two bars. What is wrong with coding it the way I have it? -- Chip Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Chip, In the following code the triplets do not work properly 1. If you are going to post code, post everything needed to make it compile correctly — in this case, you omitted the time signature (6/8, I'm inferring) and the \include "english.ly". there are two measures of quarter note triplets followed by a dotted half note - they all end up in one measure together. That's because Lilypond is doing exactly what you've asked it to do, in light of the \times 2/3 command. What are you hoping to see in those bars? Kieren. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3890 (20090226) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
6/8 time triplets problem
In the following code the triplets do not work properly - there are two
measures of quarter note triplets followed by a dotted half note - they
all end up in one measure together.
===
{
\partial 8*1 e8-.
e4 d8 c4 d8
e4 e8-. r r e
e4 d8 c4 d8
e4 e8 r r fs
g4 fs8 g4 e8
d2 d8 e
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b}
\times 2/3 {d4 c b}
g2.\fermata \bar "||"
R1*5
e,2 e8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
r2.*3
r4 r c8 d
e4 d c8 b
g4. a
b c
d2.
r2.*4
e,2 d8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r4 r8 fs,
b2 c8 d
e2.
d4. c4 d8
e2.
R2.*3
R2.*6
R2.*3
r4 r b8 d
fs4 d8~ d[ b g] \bar "||" \key af \major
ef'4 ef8 ef4 ef8
ef8 r r4 r
R2.*6
r4 r r8 c
df4 df8 bf4 af8
bf4 bf8 r bf c
df4 c8 bf4 af8
bf4 r8 ef[ g bf]
c4 c bf8 af
af2.~
af4. r8 r g \bar "||" \key g \major
e2 fs8 g
a2.
R2.*5
e,2 e8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r c8 d
e4 d c8 b
g4. a4.
b4. c4.
d2.
R2.*4
e,2 d8 g
fs2.
b2.
c2.
R2.*3
r4 r4 r8 fs,
b2 c8 d
e2.
d4. c4 d8
e2.
R2.*3
R2.*6
R2.*3
r4 r b8 c
d4 d d8 c
b4. c4.
d4. f4.
e2.
R2.*4
r4 r b8 d
a4 f d8 bf
ef2 bf8 ef
g4. bf4.
a2.\fermata \bar "|."
}
==
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Re: why does this simple notation fail a barcheck?
Gilles Sadowski wrote:
trpta = {
\partial 8*1 e8-. |
e4 d8 c4 d8 |
e4 e8-. r r e |
e4 d8 c4 d8 |
e4 e8 r r fs |
g4 fs8 g4 e8 |
d2 d8 e |
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b} |
\times 2/3 {d c b} |
g2.\fermata \bar "||" |
r1*5
}
There errors are this -
Interpreting music... [8]
F:/Lilypond Files/Score Template.ly:41:21: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/2
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b}
|
Probably because this bar contains the value of a half-note (or 2 quarter
notes) while a complete bar is a dotted half-note (or 3 quarter notes or 2
dotted quarter notes or ...).
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b}
looks like 3 quarter notes to me.
--
Chip
Best,
Gilles
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why does this simple notation fail a barcheck?
trpta = {
\partial 8*1 e8-. |
e4 d8 c4 d8 |
e4 e8-. r r e |
e4 d8 c4 d8 |
e4 e8 r r fs |
g4 fs8 g4 e8 |
d2 d8 e |
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b} |
\times 2/3 {d c b} |
g2.\fermata \bar "||" |
r1*5
}
There errors are this -
Interpreting music... [8]
F:/Lilypond Files/Score Template.ly:41:21: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/2
\times 2/3 {f4 fs b}
|
F:/Lilypond Files/Score Template.ly:42:19: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/4
\times 2/3 {d c b}
|
Preprocessing graphical objects...
The piece is in 6/8 time.
Thanks,
Chip
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Re: lilypondtool toolbar in jedit and can't find file error
Chip wrote: Just installed the latest devel version of jedit (4.3pre16), got lilypondtool (2.12r2) and other plugins installed. The toolbar for lilypondtool shows 'null' when I curser over each icon. Any fix for this? Also, when I try to run lilypond on a file from within jedit I get this error - Nevermind, I reinstalled lilypond and now everything is working fine. -- Chip 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: running command %lilypond %args "F:\Lilypond Files\Algun Dia - score.ly" 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: '%args' 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: 'F:\Lilypond Files\Algun Dia - score.ly' 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: command: lilypond [Ljava.lang.String;@6d70fc 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond" (in directory "F:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified It claims it can't find the file that it is editing? Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypondtool toolbar in jedit and can't find file error
Just installed the latest devel version of jedit (4.3pre16), got lilypondtool (2.12r2) and other plugins installed. The toolbar for lilypondtool shows 'null' when I curser over each icon. Any fix for this? Also, when I try to run lilypond on a file from within jedit I get this error - 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: running command %lilypond %args "F:\Lilypond Files\Algun Dia - score.ly" 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: '%args' 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: 'F:\Lilypond Files\Algun Dia - score.ly' 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: command: lilypond [Ljava.lang.String;@6d70fc 1:27:50 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond" (in directory "F:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified It claims it can't find the file that it is editing? Thanks, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool; jEdit plugin options
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: Yes, it is. I think it is because of localization. I hate jEdit. I'm also having problems with the latest jedit version. What do you use in place of it? What has the integration with a pdf viewer like jedit? -- chip Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Hello all, I have just noticed that some descriptions e.g. for the checkboxes and the path fields are not shown here (any more?) in jEdits Plugin Options > LilyPondTool windows. General Enable LilyTool bar (missing) Which lilypond to use (present) Path field descriptions (e.g. external PDF viewer) are all missing Descriptions for the following checkboxes and logging level - present Commands All descriptions missing! Isn't this strange? Thank you, Thomas -- Windows XP SP3 jEdit 4.3pre16 LilyPondTool 2.12-r2 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: decrescendo ends too early
Disregard, I found the override Hairpin property and it's working as it should now. -- Chip PS, No one have replied to my other thread about a error in jedit/lilytool. chip wrote: I have a decrescendo coded like this, in 2/4 time, 2 measures - a2~\> a2\! problem is the decrescendo ends at the end of the first measure, not the end of the second measure as it appears it should. What do I do to get the decrescendo to end at the end of the second measure? -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
decrescendo ends too early
I have a decrescendo coded like this, in 2/4 time, 2 measures - a2~\> a2\! problem is the decrescendo ends at the end of the first measure, not the end of the second measure as it appears it should. What do I do to get the decrescendo to end at the end of the second measure? -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: reinstalled lily on reinstalled xp, now get path error message
chip wrote: Error message - "Error running external command. See the activity log about the problem. Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\user\bin\lilypond" (in directory "D:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified." Just an additional note: The problem only occurs within Jedit/LilypondTool. I can double-click on the .ly file name in explorer and it will run in the interpretor and create the .pdf. It's just much more convenient to run it from within Jedit like it should work. Below is all the stuff from the activity log after pressing the run lilypond button - 4:45:13 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [debug] EditBus: DynamicMenuChanged[menu=recent-files,source=null] 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: working directory: D:\Lilypond Files\ 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [debug] EditBus: DockableWindowUpdate[what=ACTIVATED,dockable=console,source=org.gjt.sp.jedit.gui.DockableWindowManagerImpl[,0,0,740x594,layout=org.gjt.sp.jedit.gui.DockableLayout,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=,flags=9,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=]] 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: running command %lilypond %args "D:\Lilypond Files\Que Vivan Los Tejanos.ly" 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: '%args' 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: 'D:\Lilypond Files\Que Vivan Los Tejanos.ly' 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: command: lilypond [Ljava.lang.String;@c0bc3a 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond" (in directory "D:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.Runtime.exec(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.ConsoleProcess.start(ConsoleProcess.java:320) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.LilyPondShell.execute(LilyPondShell.java:58) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.LilyPondShell.execute(LilyPondShell.java:160) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:526) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:446) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:461) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommand(LilyToolPlugin.java:461) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommandOnBuffer(LilyToolPlugin.java:518) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommandOnMainFile(LilyToolPlugin.java:504) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Reflect.invokeMethod(Reflect.java:134) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Reflect.invokeStaticMethod(Reflect.java:98) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Name.invokeMethod(Name.java:871) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHMethodInvocation.eval(BSHMethodInvocation.java:75) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHPrimaryExpression.eval(BSHPrimaryExpression.java:102) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHPrimaryExpression.eval(BSHPrimaryExpression.java:47) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHBlock.evalBlock(BSHBlock.java:130) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHBlock.eval(BSHBlock.java:80) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invokeImpl(BshMethod.java:362) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invoke(BshMethod.java:258) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invoke(BshMethod.java:186) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-Ev
reinstalled lily on reinstalled xp, now get path error message
Error message - "Error running external command. See the activity log about the problem. Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\user\bin\lilypond" (in directory "D:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified." Below is all the stuff from the activity log after pressing the run lilypond button - 4:45:13 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [debug] EditBus: DynamicMenuChanged[menu=recent-files,source=null] 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: working directory: D:\Lilypond Files\ 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [debug] EditBus: DockableWindowUpdate[what=ACTIVATED,dockable=console,source=org.gjt.sp.jedit.gui.DockableWindowManagerImpl[,0,0,740x594,layout=org.gjt.sp.jedit.gui.DockableLayout,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=,flags=9,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=]] 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] String: running command %lilypond %args "D:\Lilypond Files\Que Vivan Los Tejanos.ly" 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: '%args' 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: 'D:\Lilypond Files\Que Vivan Los Tejanos.ly' 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [notice] AWT-EventQueue-0: command: lilypond [Ljava.lang.String;@c0bc3a 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\lilypond" (in directory "D:\Lilypond Files"): CreateProcess error=3, The system cannot find the path specified 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.Runtime.exec(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.ConsoleProcess.start(ConsoleProcess.java:320) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.LilyPondShell.execute(LilyPondShell.java:58) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.console.LilyPondShell.execute(LilyPondShell.java:160) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:526) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:446) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at console.Console.run(Console.java:461) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommand(LilyToolPlugin.java:461) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommandOnBuffer(LilyToolPlugin.java:518) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at lilytool.LilyToolPlugin.runCommandOnMainFile(LilyToolPlugin.java:504) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Reflect.invokeMethod(Reflect.java:134) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Reflect.invokeStaticMethod(Reflect.java:98) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.Name.invokeMethod(Name.java:871) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHMethodInvocation.eval(BSHMethodInvocation.java:75) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHPrimaryExpression.eval(BSHPrimaryExpression.java:102) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHPrimaryExpression.eval(BSHPrimaryExpression.java:47) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHBlock.evalBlock(BSHBlock.java:130) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BSHBlock.eval(BSHBlock.java:80) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invokeImpl(BshMethod.java:362) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invoke(BshMethod.java:258) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.bsh.BshMethod.invoke(BshMethod.java:186) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShellFacade.runCachedBlock(BeanShellFacade.java:225) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShell.runCachedBlock(BeanShell.java:441) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [error] AWT-EventQueue-0: at org.gjt.sp.jedit.BeanShellAction.invoke(BeanShellAction.java:73) 4:45:18 PM [AWT-EventQueue-0] [err
Re: sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Chip wrote: One thing I find odd, probably because I don't fully understand, is this: I have a .ly file that has 10 \score blocks. I place print-all-headers = ##t in the \paper block so I can define sub pages headers seperately from the top level \book headers. I first define: title, subtitle and instrument headers at the top level \book, then do a page break, that gives me a cover page. On the subsequent pages of music I define title and subsubtitle. I also define a blank subtitle = "" which blanks out the subtitle from the \book top level. And I define instrument = "" but it does not blank out the instrument from the top level \book headers. Seems odd that one will override the top level header and one will not. I am guessing there is probably an override that I can use to have the instrument header not appear on the subsequent pages? thanks, It's not so odd if you realize what is handled at the book level and what is handled at the score level. When you set print-all-headers=##t, you tell LilyPond to typeset the full title at the score level, i.e. for each single score. However, the page heading and foot is still handled at the book level, so it only takes into account the settings that are done at the book level, not the ones that are done within each score block (which I guess is what you do when you set instrument = ""). /Mats I found a workaround - by changing the \book header 'instrument' to 'subsubtitle' the instrument name is now not appearing on the subsequent pages because the \score level headers are taking their place. -- Chip __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3844 (20090211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Chip wrote:
One thing I find odd, probably because I don't fully understand, is
this: I have a .ly file that has 10 \score blocks. I place
print-all-headers = ##t in the \paper block so I can define sub pages
headers seperately from the top level \book headers. I first define:
title, subtitle and instrument headers at the top level \book, then
do a page break, that gives me a cover page. On the subsequent pages
of music I define title and subsubtitle. I also define a blank
subtitle = "" which blanks out the subtitle from the \book top level.
And I define instrument = "" but it does not blank out the instrument
from the top level \book headers. Seems odd that one will override
the top level header and one will not. I am guessing there is
probably an override that I can use to have the instrument header not
appear on the subsequent pages?
thanks,
It's not so odd if you realize what is handled at the book level and
what is handled at the score level. When you set
print-all-headers=##t, you tell LilyPond to typeset the full title at
the score level, i.e. for each single score. However, the page heading
and foot is still handled at the book level, so it only takes into
account the settings that are done at the book level, not the ones
that are done within each score block (which I guess is what you do
when you set instrument = "").
/Mats
This is something I am currently struggling with - my title page has -
\book {
\header {
title =
subtitle =
instrument = }
Then in my score blocks -
\score {
... notes...
\header {
title = "Hooked"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "(EMaj - F#m)"
instrument = ##f }.
On the resulting .pdf's the title page is fine, the subsequent pages all
have the instrument name (which is set to false so it shouldn't appear
on the subsequent pages) at the top of the page, then below that is the
title "Hooked" in the example above, then below that the subsubtitle
stuff. Notice the subtitle is correctly turned off but the instrument is
not turned off. Am I missing something obvious here?
--
Chip
The source code is included below -
\version "2.12.1"
\layout { indent = #0
line-width = #175
ragged-last = ##t
}
\include "english.ly"
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
global = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
#(set-global-staff-size 18)
\override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = ##f
}
\paper {
#(define page-breaking ly:minimal-breaking)
between-system-space = 0.5\cm
between-system-padding = #0.1
ragged-bottom=##f
ragged-last-bottom=##f
left-margin = 20\mm
page-limit-inter-system-space = ##t
page-limit-inter-system-space-factor = 1.5
print-all-headers = ##t
}
\book {
\header {
title = \markup \center-column { " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " "
\fontsize #7.5 "Ras Jammie" " " " " " "}
subtitle = \markup \bold \italic \center-column { \fontsize #6.5
"Thin Line" " " " "}
instrument = \markup \center-column { \fontsize #3.5 \italic "Tenor
Sax" } }
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxHooked.ly"
}
\header {title = "Hooked"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "(EMaj - F#m)"
instrument = ##f}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxDaddy.ly"
}
\header {title = "Daddy Won't Mind"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "FMaj - Gm"
instrument = ##f}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxSometimey.ly"
}
\header {title = "Sometimey People"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "(Cm - Fm)"
instrument = ##f}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxBlack.ly"
}
\header {title = "Black Day"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "(Em - GMaj)"
instrument = ##f}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxJah.ly"
}
\header {title = "Jah Son"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle = "(Em - F#m)"
instrument = ##f}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
\include "SaxRunaway.ly"
}
\header {title = "Runaway Slave"
subtitle = ##f
subsubtitle
Re: sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Chip wrote: One thing I find odd, probably because I don't fully understand, is this: I have a .ly file that has 10 \score blocks. I place print-all-headers = ##t in the \paper block so I can define sub pages headers seperately from the top level \book headers. I first define: title, subtitle and instrument headers at the top level \book, then do a page break, that gives me a cover page. On the subsequent pages of music I define title and subsubtitle. I also define a blank subtitle = "" which blanks out the subtitle from the \book top level. And I define instrument = "" but it does not blank out the instrument from the top level \book headers. Seems odd that one will override the top level header and one will not. I am guessing there is probably an override that I can use to have the instrument header not appear on the subsequent pages? thanks, It's not so odd if you realize what is handled at the book level and what is handled at the score level. When you set print-all-headers=##t, you tell LilyPond to typeset the full title at the score level, i.e. for each single score. However, the page heading and foot is still handled at the book level, so it only takes into account the settings that are done at the book level, not the ones that are done within each score block (which I guess is what you do when you set instrument = ""). /Mats Very good then, I didn't know headers were split between book level and score level. Thanks, that helps me understand them a bit more. -- Chip __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3844 (20090211) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Chip wrote: Thanks Mats, Maybe that section of the LSR should be re-titled to "Demonstrating most headers" ;) Regards, No, it clearly demonstrates what happens to all headers. In particular, it highlights the fact that not all headers are typeset at the score level. From a pedagogical point of view, I like the current example. /Mats One thing I find odd, probably because I don't fully understand, is this: I have a .ly file that has 10 \score blocks. I place print-all-headers = ##t in the \paper block so I can define sub pages headers seperately from the top level \book headers. I first define: title, subtitle and instrument headers at the top level \book, then do a page break, that gives me a cover page. On the subsequent pages of music I define title and subsubtitle. I also define a blank subtitle = "" which blanks out the subtitle from the \book top level. And I define instrument = "" but it does not blank out the instrument from the top level \book headers. Seems odd that one will override the top level header and one will not. I am guessing there is probably an override that I can use to have the instrument header not appear on the subsequent pages? thanks, Chip As a casual user of lilypond with modest needs from the program I would expect a section called Demonstrating all headers to do just that, demonstrate all headers. I do recall seeing such an example somewhere else in the docs. That could be followed by a section demonstrating and explaing how some headers don't appear on certain pages when typeset from the \score level. -- Chip Mats Bengtsson wrote: Quoting http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-titles#Creating-titles: "If you define the |\header| inside the |\score| block, then normally only the |piece| and |opus| headers will be printed." If you read on in that section of the manual, you will also learn how to get all header fields printed for every \score block. See also http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=310 /Mats Chip wrote: In the LSR is "Demonstrating all headers" (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets-big-page#Titles). The example code shows more headers than the example graphic. And when I copy/paste the sections from the code into jedit I am missing many of the headers. All of the headers for the second staff in the example, except two headers, are not shown in the .pdf. Is this correct and expected from the snippet? It'd be great if all the headers worked correctly for the second, and subsequent, \score blocks, same as for the first \score block. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
NR 4.3.6 Explicit Breaks
"When |line-break-permission| is overridden to false, Lily will insert
line breaks at explicit |\break| commands and nowhere else."
I can't get this to work as quoted from the NR. Lily still breaks lines
where it wants to.
My problem is this: I have many short snippets of music - horn (trumpet,
trombone, sax) riffs. Some are as short as 2 measures, others might be
as many as 20 measures or so. When the .pdf is created the staffs are of
various lengths, and have huge space between them, sometimes just 3
staves are spread out over the full height of the page. Very weird
looking. I've been messing around with the various ragged-... settings
trying to get the staffs all the same length with the last staff to end
at it natural length. And all printed in a nice looking block from the
top of the page and ending, in my cases, in the middle of the page at
the lowest. I just haven't found the magic combination to get this to
work. Pasted below is the .ly file I am working on. Can someone help me?
--
Chip
\version "2.12.1"
\layout {
ragged-right = ##t }
\include "english.ly"
%#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
global = {
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 2 4 'Staff)
#(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 3 4 'Staff)
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\numericTimeSignature
\override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = ##f
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f
}
\paper {
left-margin = 30\mm
print-all-headers = ##t
indent = #0
%ragged-right = ##t
ragged-bottom = ##t
%line-width = 175\mm - 2.0 * 0.4\in
}
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r2 r4 r8 fs
f?2 cs
ds8 ds ds ds ds r r fs
f?2 cs
ds8 ds ds ds ds r r fs \break
f?2 cs
ds8 ds ds ds ds r r fs
f?2 cs
ds8 ds ds ds ds r r4 \bar "||"
R1*2 \break
r4 r8 fs f? r r4
R1*2
}
\header {title = "Hooked (EMaj - F#m)"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r4 r b8 b b b(
d8) r r d r4 r
}
\header {title = "Daddy Won't Mind (FMaj - Gm)"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
f1~
f2 d4 c
d4. c8 a2~
a2. g4
a1~
a2 \times 2/3 {a4 bf c}
a1~
a1 \bar "||" \break
R1*2
r8 bf a r r2
}
\header {title = "Sometimey People (Cm - Fm)"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r4 a16 b a b \times 2/3 {a8 b cs } r4
r4 a16 b a b \times 2/3 {a8 b cs } r4
r4 a16 b a b \times 2/3 {a8 b cs } r4 \break
r4 a16 b a b a fs fs fs r4 \bar "|:"
s1
r2 r4 r16 fs fs fs
fs r r8 r4 r2
s1 \bar ":|"
}
\header {title = "Black Day (Em - GMaj)"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r4 r ef2~
ef2~ ef4. cs8
b4 gs-^ gs2~
gs1 \bar "|:"
r4 r ef'2~
ef2~ ef4. cs8 \break
b4 gs-^ gs4. fs8
gs b gs2 r4 \bar ":|"
R1*3 \bar "|:"
r2 r4 r8 ef'
cs r r4 r2
R1*2 \bar ":|"
}
\header {title = "Jah Son (Em - F#m)"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r4 fs8 e fs e cs e
fs r r4 r2
r4 fs8 e fs e cs e
cs r r4 r2
r4 fs8 e fs e cs e
fs r r4 r2
r4 fs8 e fs e cs e
cs8 r r cs r2
}
\header {title = "Runaway Slave"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
d1~
d2~ d8. d16 c bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf1 \bar "||"
R1*16
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2 \break
R1*10
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2
R1*25
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2
R1*8
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2
R1*7
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2
R1*5
d2~ d8. d16 c16 bf a8
bf2. d8 d
bf r r4 r2
}
\header {title = "Anxiety Attack"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
r4 e-^ e-^ r8 e
g-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^
r4 e-^ e-^ r8 e
g8-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^
r4 e-^ e-^ r8 e
g8-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^ \break
r4 e-^ e-^ r8 e-^
e b b b b4-- cs-.
s1 \bar ":|:"
s1
r2 r8 e e fs
g4 r4 r2 \break
s1 \bar ":|"
s1 \bar "|:"
e4-^ r8 e-^ r4 e
g8-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^
e4-^ r8 e-^ r4 e
g8-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^ \break
e4-^ r8 e-^ r4 e
g8-. g-. g-. g-. g4-- fs-^ \bar ":|"
e4-^ r8 e-^ r4 e
e8 b b b b4-- cs-.
}
\header {title = "Froggy"}
}
\pageBreak
\score {
\relative c'' { \time 4/4 \global
d1
b4 d2.
c8 c r c r c e4--
d-^ r r2
d1
b4 d2.
g,8 g r g r g b4--
a-^ r r2
s1 \bar ":|"
}
\header {title = "More"}
}
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Re: sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
Thanks Mats, Maybe that section of the LSR should be re-titled to "Demonstrating most headers" ;) Regards, -- Chip Mats Bengtsson wrote: Quoting http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Creating-titles#Creating-titles: "If you define the |\header| inside the |\score| block, then normally only the |piece| and |opus| headers will be printed." If you read on in that section of the manual, you will also learn how to get all header fields printed for every \score block. See also http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=310 /Mats Chip wrote: In the LSR is "Demonstrating all headers" (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets-big-page#Titles). The example code shows more headers than the example graphic. And when I copy/paste the sections from the code into jedit I am missing many of the headers. All of the headers for the second staff in the example, except two headers, are not shown in the .pdf. Is this correct and expected from the snippet? It'd be great if all the headers worked correctly for the second, and subsequent, \score blocks, same as for the first \score block. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
sample from snippets library doesn't seem to work correctly?
In the LSR is "Demonstrating all headers" (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets-big-page#Titles). The example code shows more headers than the example graphic. And when I copy/paste the sections from the code into jedit I am missing many of the headers. All of the headers for the second staff in the example, except two headers, are not shown in the .pdf. Is this correct and expected from the snippet? It'd be great if all the headers worked correctly for the second, and subsequent, \score blocks, same as for the first \score block. -- Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: multimeasure rest with no number of measures?
Robin Bannister wrote: Chipwrote: I want a multi-measure rest with no number on it. This gets rid of the number: mmrNoNum = \once \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = ##f as in: \mmrNoNum R1*16 Cheers, Robin Thanks, that's one I haven't seen in the NR or LM or Snippets. I placed this in my global overrides so it effects the entire page, which contains horn parts for 10 raggae songs (they're short parts). Regards, Chip __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3835 (20090206) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message , James E. Bailey writes So how do you get it to print properly if you DON'T want it to "shrink to fit"? (ime, it then prints the page, full size, but offset down and left by the printer margin!) I've found it IMPOSSIBLE to get the pdf to print cleanly on a sheet of paper, full size, properly centred. Cheers, Wol In Adobe Acrobat, I use no printer scaling, and automatically center. That gets it how it's supposed to be. At least for me. That works for me as well. I did have to install Acrobat since I only used jpedal previously. Oh well, at least it prints correctly now. -- Chip I'll have to try. But iirc this is exactly where I get the behaviour "this page is to big to fit in the printable area. Place the top left corner of the pdf in the top left corner of the printable area and don't scale". So everything is off by the printer margin. It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document, printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do it) insists the printer has American Letter paper. Cheers, Wol ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
