Re: offset \breathe sign
thx Pierre, that worked - I did not find it... now bookmarked.. See also: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign> E.g.: \version "2.19.58" { \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 %\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1) %\tweak X-offset #-1 \tweak space-alist.first-note #'(fixed-space . 3.0) \breathe a''!2 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 11:01, Pierre Perol-Schneider <mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>> a écrit : For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset? E.g. \version "2.19.58" { \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1) %\tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit : thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work.. \version "2.19.58" {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2} Cheers Joei Hi Johannes, How about: \version "2.20" { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit : Hi group, what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the left :( Using 2.19.58 Cheers Joei
Re: offset \breathe sign
See also: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign E.g.: \version "2.19.58" { \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 %\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1) %\tweak X-offset #-1 \tweak space-alist.first-note #'(fixed-space . 3.0) \breathe a''!2 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 11:01, Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit : > For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset? > E.g. > > \version "2.19.58" > { > \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 > \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1) > %\tweak X-offset #-5 > \breathe a''!2 > } > > Cheers, > Pierre > > Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > >> thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work.. >> \version "2.19.58" >> {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2} >> >> Cheers >> Joei >> >> Hi Johannes, >> How about: >> >> \version "2.20" >> { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 } >> >> Cheers, >> Pierre >> >> Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : >> >>> Hi group, >>> >>> what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I >>> only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the >>> left :( >>> >>> Using 2.19.58 >>> >>> Cheers >>> Joei >>> >>> >>> >>
Re: offset \breathe sign
For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset? E.g. \version "2.19.58" { \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1) %\tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work.. > \version "2.19.58" > {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2} > > Cheers > Joei > > Hi Johannes, > How about: > > \version "2.20" > { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 } > > Cheers, > Pierre > > Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > >> Hi group, >> >> what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I >> only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the >> left :( >> >> Using 2.19.58 >> >> Cheers >> Joei >> >> >> >
Re: offset \breathe sign
thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work.. \version "2.19.58" {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2} Cheers Joei Hi Johannes, How about: \version "2.20" { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler <mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit : Hi group, what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the left :( Using 2.19.58 Cheers Joei
Re: offset \breathe sign
Hi Johannes, How about: \version "2.20" { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 } Cheers, Pierre Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > Hi group, > > what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I > only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the > left :( > > Using 2.19.58 > > Cheers > Joei > > >
offset \breathe sign
Hi group, what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the left :( Using 2.19.58 Cheers Joei
Re: fermata on a breathe sign?
Thank you, Aaron, that works. Am 12.09.2018 um 15:53 schrieb Aaron Hill: > On 2018-09-12 6:40 am, Aaron Hill wrote: >> On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote: >>> In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata >>> raises >>> the error: >>> F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error, >>> unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER >>> \breathe >>> \fermata >> >> Hi Bernhard, >> >> Would this work for you? >> >> >> \version "2.19.82" >> breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = >> \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" >> \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe } >> << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >> >> > > Here is an variant that shows using \translate-scaled as opposed to > simply \raise to accommodate an alternate glyph: > > > \version "2.19.82" > breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = > \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" > \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe } > caesura-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = > \markup { \combine > \translate-scaled #'(0.5 . 1.5) \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" > \musicglyph "scripts.caesura.straight" } \breathe } > << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 | b'2. \caesura-fermata b'4 } >> > > > -- Aaron Hill > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fermata on a breathe sign?
On 2018-09-12 6:40 am, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote: In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata raises the error: F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER \breathe \fermata Hi Bernhard, Would this work for you? \version "2.19.82" breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe } << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >> Here is an variant that shows using \translate-scaled as opposed to simply \raise to accommodate an alternate glyph: \version "2.19.82" breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe } caesura-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { \combine \translate-scaled #'(0.5 . 1.5) \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" \musicglyph "scripts.caesura.curved" } \breathe } << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 | b'2. \caesura-fermata b'4 } >> -- Aaron Hill___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fermata on a breathe sign?
On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote: In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata raises the error: F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER \breathe \fermata Hi Bernhard, Would this work for you? \version "2.19.82" breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata" \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe } << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >> -- Aaron Hill___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
fermata on a breathe sign?
In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata raises the error: F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER \breathe \fermata . Please show me a solution to this. (Version 2.19.82) Regards Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re: midi \breathe
On 18 October 2017 at 23:43, Flaming Hakama by Elaine < ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote: > > [] > > Here is an common approch: use tags to identify content that is > MIDI-specific, as well as PDF-specific. [] > Thank you Flaming and Johan for your help! Yes, I will use the tag technique. g. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re: midi \breathe
> From: Gianmaria Lari > To: lilypond-user > > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:10:57 +0200 > Subject: midi \breathe > I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using > the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following code > > \version "2.19.65" > \include "articulate.ly" > > music = \fixed c' { > c4 d e f \breathe > c4 d e f > } > > \score { > \articulate \music > \layout {} > \midi{} > } > > > but it doesn't look to work. > > I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this > > \version "2.19.65" > \include "articulate.ly" > > music = \fixed c' { > c4 d e f > \partial 4 r4 > c4 d e f > } > > \score { > \articulate \music > \layout {} > \midi{} > } > > but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard. > > Thank you, g. > Here is an common approch: use tags to identify content that is MIDI-specific, as well as PDF-specific. Then use two scores, and target different tags for each score. \version "2.19.15" \include "articulate.ly" music = \relative c' { c4 d e f \tag #'(PDF) { % This tag isn't necessary, but I'm adding it just to show the pattern, % since you might have PDF-specific content, as well as MIDI-specific content. % In this case, you could leave the breath mark in the MIDI, too, % but it will be ignored as you have found out. Here, it is clear it only applies to the PDF <>\breathe } \tag #'(MIDI) { \partial 4 r4 } c4 d e f } \score { \keepWithTag #'(PDF) \music \layout {} } \score { \articulate \keepWithTag #'(MIDI) \music \midi{} } HTH, David Elaine Alt 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is highly underrated*" ela...@flaminghakama.com self-immolation.info skype: flaming_hakama Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi \breathe
In sitations like this, I use tags. Something similar to this: music = { ... \tag #'midiOnly { c8. r16 } \tag #'scoreOnly { c4 } ... } \score { \articulate \removeWithTag #'midiOnly \music \layout {} } \score { \articulate \removeWithTag #'scoreOnly \unfoldRepeats \music \midi{} } -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi \breathe
On 18 October 2017 at 15:17, Ben wrote: > On 10/18/2017 8:10 AM, Gianmaria Lari wrote: > > I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using > the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following > code[] > > > I think I understand your question - you're looking for a way to program a > small pause in the MIDI *playback*, not just the notation? Yes? > > Hmmm, I don't know if my answer is more "simpler/standard" but, you may > want to edit the MIDI outside of LilyPond once it's finished, rather than > mess around with the input file any further. Depending on how many "pauses" > you need in your MIDI score, etc. > > But \partial should do the trick in a quick and dirty way! ;) No? > > If you prefer to keep it simple, clean, and in LilyPond only, probably > \partial is the cleanest way to do it without too much headache. That's > what I would do. > > Otherwise, I'd edit the MIDI in more detail once you realize it and need > to finalize it outside of LilyPond (which is what I personally do often > when my piece is finished). > The biggest side effect of modify the midi file outside lilypond is that is something that go lost in case I have to modify the music and that need to be done again. Not really doable. Thank you anyway, g. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: midi \breathe
On 10/18/2017 8:10 AM, Gianmaria Lari wrote: I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following code I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this \version "2.19.65" \include "articulate.ly <http://articulate.ly>" music = \fixed c' { c4 d e f \partial 4 r4 c4 d e f } \score { \articulate \music \layout {} \midi{} } but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard. Hi G, I think I understand your question - you're looking for a way to program a small pause in the MIDI *playback*, not just the notation? Yes? Hmmm, I don't know if my answer is more "simpler/standard" but, you may want to edit the MIDI outside of LilyPond once it's finished, rather than mess around with the input file any further. Depending on how many "pauses" you need in your MIDI score, etc. But \partial should do the trick in a quick and dirty way! ;) No? If you prefer to keep it simple, clean, and in LilyPond only, probably \partial is the cleanest way to do it without too much headache. That's what I would do. Otherwise, I'd edit the MIDI in more detail once you realize it and need to finalize it outside of LilyPond (which is what I personally do often when my piece is finished). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
midi \breathe
I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following code \version "2.19.65" \include "articulate.ly" music = \fixed c' { c4 d e f \breathe c4 d e f } \score { \articulate \music \layout {} \midi{} } but it doesn't look to work. I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this \version "2.19.65" \include "articulate.ly" music = \fixed c' { c4 d e f \partial 4 r4 c4 d e f } \score { \articulate \music \layout {} \midi{} } but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard. Thank you, g. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto
On 28.08.2017 21:49, Bernhard Kleine wrote: Am 28.08.2017 um 21:24 schrieb David Kastrup: Does { c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 } help? It does! thank you. BTW: What do I to do to make it the variable \breathedown at the beginning of the setting? That’s just a simple variable definition: breathedown = \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto
Am 28.08.2017 um 21:24 schrieb David Kastrup: > Bernhard Kleine writes: > >> I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz. >> sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for >> sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But >> I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto >> which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff. >> >> Where could I find the info for this? >> >> Regards and thanks for any help > You don't provide a minimal example. Does > > { c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 } > > help? > > It does! thank you. BTW: What do I to do to make it the variable \breathedown at the beginning of the setting? thanks for the prompt response. Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto
Bernhard Kleine writes: > I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz. > sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for > sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But > I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto > which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff. > > Where could I find the info for this? > > Regards and thanks for any help You don't provide a minimal example. Does { c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 } help? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe sign to be inline with alto
Hi, I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz. sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff. Where could I find the info for this? Regards and thanks for any help Bernhard -- spitzhalde9 D-79853 lenzkirch bernhard.kle...@gmx.net www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net - thunderbird mit enigmail GPG schlüssel: D5257409 fingerprint: 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe too close to note
the music i am typesetting looks even worse with the default behavior. Looking back at the original. thanks to your hints i made some adjustments and it looks much better. Thnks. <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n180721/2015-09-05_6-43-19.png> -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/breathe-too-close-to-note-tp180704p180721.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe too close to note
<http://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4556/> Am 05.09.2015 um 05:17 schrieb MarcM: The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug. I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any workaround? \version "2.19.26" \language "english" \relative c' { f2 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} % breathe is too close \relative c' { f4 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} % breathe is almost invisible \relative c' { f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/breathe-too-close-to-note-tp180704.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe too close to note
Hi Marc, On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > \relative c' { > \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0) > f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe > } Note that extra-offset happens *after* spacing is complete; perhaps that’s what you want. If not, there are other options, e.g. \version "2.18.0" \layout { indent = 0 ragged-right = ##t } \relative c' { \omit Staff.TimeSignature f8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0) f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break \override BreathingSign.extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 1.5) f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe } Hope this helps! Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe too close to note
Hi Marc, On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > \relative c' { > \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0) > f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe > } Note that extra-offset happens *after* spacing is complete; perhaps that’s what you want. If not, there are other options, e.g. \version "2.18.0" \layout { indent = 0 ragged-right = ##t } \relative c' { \omit Staff.TimeSignature f8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0) f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break \override BreathingSign.extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 1.5) f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe } Hope this helps! Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe too close to note
Hi MarcM, This would work: \relative c' { \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0) f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe } Andrew On 5/09/2015 13:17, "MarcM" wrote: > >The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug. >I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any >workaround? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe too close to note
The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug. I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any workaround? \version "2.19.26" \language "english" \relative c' { f2 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} % breathe is too close \relative c' { f4 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} % breathe is almost invisible \relative c' { f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe} -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/breathe-too-close-to-note-tp180704.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Breathe mark problem
>-Original Message- >From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] >Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 4:28 PM >To: Peter Gentry >Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org >Subject: Re: Breathe mark problem > >"Peter Gentry" writes: > >> Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- >> Frescobaldi 2.0.13 >> >> When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with >> "unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER" >> >> { >> \clef "treble" >> \time 4/4 >> g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 \breathe ) [ bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ] >> ) | % 37 >> } >> >> It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if >> there is a beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does anyone >> know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between >two beamed >> notes? > >\breathe is not an articulation but rather a music event of >its own. So it has to come after any articulations on the >previous note. > > Thanks David. I was put off by the manual reference "note\breathe" as the syntax' Placing \breathe after the "note)[" never occurred to me. I think of a breath mark in the same light as other textural annotations - an indictaion or advice for the performer rather than an event as such. We live and learn (and forget), thanks. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe mark problem
"Peter Gentry" writes: > Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- Frescobaldi > 2.0.13 > > When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with > "unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER" > > { > \clef "treble" > \time 4/4 > g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 \breathe ) [ bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ] > ) | % 37 > } > > It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if > there is a beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does anyone > know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between two beamed > notes? \breathe is not an articulation but rather a music event of its own. So it has to come after any articulations on the previous note. { \clef "treble" \time 4/4 g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 ) [ \breathe bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ] ) | % 37 } -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Breathe mark problem
Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- Frescobaldi 2.0.13 When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with "unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER" { \clef "treble" \time 4/4 g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 \breathe ) [ bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ] ) | % 37 } It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if there is a beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does anyone know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between two beamed notes? Thanks in advance regards Peter Gentry ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re:how to place fermata over \breathe?
Jay Hamilton-2 wrote > Thanks to all trying to help the forgetful. > The # did not solve the problem--- what it did do was allow the file to > compile without the fermata - so just the breath mark. > The longer solution i.e. Mr. Morley's does work both of them- > so now I'm wondering is there a way to make this a global setting? > At the moment I have put it before each instrument's staff this works but > I'm guessing there's a cleaner way to do it. > > Thanks again. I do forget that you all are using the unstable versions. > Sorry > Jay please read the proposed functions carefully and also read the log! if you only add a hash (#) before the variable name (text) without the apostrophe (') you'll see an error in the log and the sign created will not contain the fermata. if you think your code is correct but doesn't perform what you're expecting you should attach that code (and mention the version you're using) Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Re-how-to-place-fermata-over-breathe-tp141109p141116.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:how to place fermata over \breathe?
Thanks to all trying to help the forgetful. The # did not solve the problem--- what it did do was allow the file to compile without the fermata - so just the breath mark. The longer solution i.e. Mr. Morley's does work both of them- so now I'm wondering is there a way to make this a global setting? At the moment I have put it before each instrument's staff this works but I'm guessing there's a cleaner way to do it. Thanks again. I do forget that you all are using the unstable versions. Sorry Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Am 17.02.2013 16:05, schrieb Jay Hamilton: > Alas none of the proposed solutions work > version 2.16.1 > here's the logs > > Joram's solution > > breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting > SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN > > c c \once \override BreathingSign.text > > = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe I did stick to the proposed snipped which was written for version 2.17.x (x=6 or higher definitely works). If you want to use it with 2.16, you have to write the override command like this: \once \override BreathingSign #'text = … ( #' instead of .) HTH Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
2013/2/17 Jay Hamilton : > Alas none of the proposed solutions work > version 2.16.1 > here's the logs Hi Jay, all proposals are working - with 2.17 Please, _*always*_ mention your version!! For 2.16. use: breatheFermataE = \markup { \combine \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" \raise #1 \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } \relative { c c \once \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup \breatheFermataE \breathe c c } breatheFermataN = { \once \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup { \combine \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" \raise #1 \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } \breathe } \relative c' { c c \breatheFermataN c c } -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Jay, On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Jay Hamilton wrote: > Alas none of the proposed solutions work > version 2.16.1 > here's the logs > > Joram's solution > > breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting > SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN > > c c \once \override BreathingSign.text > > = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe > > > Eluze's solution > > breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting > SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN > > c c \once \override BreathingSign.text > > = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe > > and what I hoped with the s32*0 really messed things up usually putting > the fermata over the following measure rest or note. > > So what's next? Or .. [btw please notice that I have begun to use 2.16 > but that does not mean I comprehend assorted idioms like the difference of > tweak to once or even where to place these suggestions so I just pasted > each one into a 2.16 template to find the error] > Please specify your version when you ask the question in the first place. Both Joram and Eluze have answered you based on a newer syntax which isn't recognized yet in 2.16. To get both to work in 2.16,, use BreathingSign #'text instead of BreathingSign.text HTH, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Jay Hamilton-3 wrote > Alas none of the proposed solutions work in pre-2.17.6 (?) versions you must write \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/how-to-place-fermata-over-breathe-tp141047p141085.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Alas none of the proposed solutions work version 2.16.1 here's the logs Joram's solution breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN c c \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe Eluze's solution breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN c c \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe and what I hoped with the s32*0 really messed things up usually putting the fermata over the following measure rest or note. So what's next? Or .. [btw please notice that I have begun to use 2.16 but that does not mean I comprehend assorted idioms like the difference of tweak to once or even where to place these suggestions so I just pasted each one into a 2.16 template to find the error] Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
David Kastrup wrote > Noeck < > noeck.marburg@ > > writes: > >> Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed >> within the music, you can put the override in the command: >> >> breatheFermata = { >> \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { >> \combine >> \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" >> \raise #1 >> \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" >> } >> \breathe >> } > > Doesn't \single\override (aka \tweak) work here? A \tweak has the > advantage of not messing with anything else happening at the same time. yes it does - thanks for the indication! I think the doc is rather poor concerning this kind of commands (\omit \single \once) - for instance you can't find the command \omit explained in NR, \single is limited to an example with \footnote, etc. - you can find more in the Learning Manual (but imo the NR isn't a reference if such items are not there) ah - I just found an open issue concerning this, so let's hope for the future! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/how-to-place-fermata-over-breathe-tp141047p141079.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Noeck writes: > Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed > within the music, you can put the override in the command: > > breatheFermata = { > \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { > \combine > \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" > \raise #1 > \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" > } > \breathe > } Doesn't \single\override (aka \tweak) work here? A \tweak has the advantage of not messing with anything else happening at the same time. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed within the music, you can put the override in the command: breatheFermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup { \combine \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" \raise #1 \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } \breathe } \relative c' { c c \breatheFermata c c } Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Jay Hamilton-3 wrote > Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma? you can change the "text" of the breathing sine: breatheFermata = \markup { \combine \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" \raise #1 \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata" } \relative { c c \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe c c } Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/how-to-place-fermata-over-breathe-tp141047p141054.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?
Have you tried using s32*0? That should at least take care of the timing problem. HTH Nick On Feb 16, 2013 11:47 AM, "Jay Hamilton" wrote: > Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma? I.E. I > suspect that using an s32 might MIGHT work but then in compiling lily > thinks the measure count is all screwed up. > Thanks > Jay > > -- > Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694 > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
how to place fermata over \breathe?
Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma? I.E. I suspect that using an s32 might MIGHT work but then in compiling lily thinks the measure count is all screwed up. Thanks Jay -- Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???
Thank you for the solution!! I just insert it in every voiceTwo: \voiceTwo { % to get breathing-signs at bottom line instead of top line for lower voice: \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-2 ... } Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???
Werner writes: > Hello, > > i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for > the lower > voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave. > > Is there a possibility to get that behavior? \new Staff << { c'' \breathe c'' c'' c'' } \\ { c' c' c' \tweak #'Y-offset #-2 \breathe c' } >> Maybe this should be the default. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???
2012/11/25 Werner : > Hello, > > i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for the > lower > voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave. > > Is there a possibility to get that behavior? > > greetings > > Werner > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi Werner, how about \version "2.16.0" I = \relative c'' { \voiceOne c1 \breathe d } II = \relative c' { \voiceTwo c1 \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-2 \breathe d } \new Staff << \new Voice \I \new Voice \II >> -Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???
Hello, i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for the lower voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave. Is there a possibility to get that behavior? greetings Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beginner's question: breathe marks only in lower voice
On 16 November 2011 05:37, Mathias Koerber wrote: > Hi, > > I am just starting out with lilypond. > > I am setting a ChoirStaff score, and I would like to > be able to set breahemarks on the lower voice on the treble > staff only, but they appear at the top even is written > in the lower voice. > > Is there a trick how I can restrict them to the lower voice? In your lower voice, insert \override BreathingSign #'direction = #DOWN Does it correspond to the output you want? Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Beginner's question: breathe marks only in lower voice
Hi, I am just starting out with lilypond. I am setting a ChoirStaff score, and I would like to be able to set breahemarks on the lower voice on the treble staff only, but they appear at the top even is written in the lower voice. Is there a trick how I can restrict them to the lower voice? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical position of a breathe sign
2011/6/15 Jakub Pavlík : > I'm using sort of non-standard notation - in four-lines-staff in the way in > which gregorian chant is notated. > In this way I set up the staff: > > \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-positions = #'(-7 -5 -3 -1) > > So, the notes B, D, F, A lie on the lines. > > But in this setup, the breathe sign is typesetted flying over the staff. I > want it to lie on the top-most line, on the line A, but I haven't found any > way to modify vertical positioning of this sign. Is there any? Try this: \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-0.5 Cheers, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Vertical position of a breathe sign
Hi, I'm using sort of non-standard notation - in four-lines-staff in the way in which gregorian chant is notated. In this way I set up the staff: \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-positions = #'(-7 -5 -3 -1) So, the notes B, D, F, A lie on the lines. But in this setup, the breathe sign is typesetted flying over the staff. I want it to lie on the top-most line, on the line A, but I haven't found any way to modify vertical positioning of this sign. Is there any? Thanks, Jakub Pavlík ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Moving breathe markings
Josh Nichols wrote: I want to move the breath marks from in the staff to above the staff in this example: \version "2.12.2" \relative c'' { c \breathe d e \breathe f } Hi. Use \version "2.12.2" \relative c'' { c \breathe d \override Voice . BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #3 e \breathe f } The neutral position (Y-offset = 0) is centered on the middle staff line; the distances are in staff sizes, so the default seems to be Y-offset = 2. Adjust to your needs. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Moving breathe markings
I want to move the breath marks from in the staff to above the staff in this example: \version "2.12.2" \relative c'' { c \breathe d e \breathe f } Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks! - Josh Nichols SDG ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines
> A property that does work is 'minimum-X-extent, so I changed all > 'extra-X-extent --> 'minimum-X-extent, and the attached image is the > resulting output. I don't know if this is more optimal or not, but > there is certainly a problem here. I'll raise this issue on > lilypond-devel. Hallo, thank you very much. With the setting: \once \override BreathingSign #'minimum-X-extent = #'(-1.6 . 0) \once \override BreathingSign #'thickness = #2.1 to every BreathingSign in the gregorian.ly, I finally got more or less what I wanted (see the picture). However, the only thing which a bit discourages me from using Lilypond in my musicological work is the fact that the documentation is somewhat behind the current state of the program! I am always refering to the documentation which is described as the "latest stable" - i.e. 2.12 and the outdated definition of extra-X-extent are found there (B.13 Layout properties)! On the other side, what encourages me to use Lilypond is this fantastic forum, where one always gets hints how to solve the problems! Marvellous support. http://www.nabble.com/file/p21762763/div3.png -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Breathe-signs-too-narrow-%28slim%29-compared-to-barlines-tp21761121p21762763.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines
Hi Jiri, On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Jiri Zurek (Prague) wrote: > > Although I can control the thickness of barlines in lilypond, I did not find > the same property in breath signs which are used in old chant instead of > barlines (divisio minor, maior, maxima, finalis) - these are defined in the > gregorian.ly which is included in the lilypond distribution, but when I use > them in conjunction with normal barlines (what I have to do), I would be > happy that these breath signs are also a bit thicker to be similar to > barlines - I love the thickness of barlines and therefore I do not want to > make them slimmer to match the thickness of both items to be the same. > How can I controll the thickness of the breath sings, please? As you can see in ly/gregorian.ly, these are defined as BreathingSign grobs, so you have to use overrides for the 'thickness property of BreathingSign. > Another problem is that the 'extra-X-extent property of breath signs does > not seem to work as the breath signs (and barlines after all too) appear too > close to the note which is on the left of them even though there is a > special 'extra-X-extent applied in the gregorian.ly definition. It seems > that the property is ignored by lilypond in this case. Is it a bug? It is. Checking the source code history, it appears that the 'extra-X-extent and 'extra-Y-extent properties were removed from LilyPond in 2005. Unfortunately the grob property is still documented, and the overrides in ly/gregorian.ly still exist. These overrides have no affect on the musical output. A property that does work is 'minimum-X-extent, so I changed all 'extra-X-extent --> 'minimum-X-extent, and the attached image is the resulting output. I don't know if this is more optimal or not, but there is certainly a problem here. I'll raise this issue on lilypond-devel. -Patrick <>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines
Although I can control the thickness of barlines in lilypond, I did not find the same property in breath signs which are used in old chant instead of barlines (divisio minor, maior, maxima, finalis) - these are defined in the gregorian.ly which is included in the lilypond distribution, but when I use them in conjunction with normal barlines (what I have to do), I would be happy that these breath signs are also a bit thicker to be similar to barlines - I love the thickness of barlines and therefore I do not want to make them slimmer to match the thickness of both items to be the same. How can I controll the thickness of the breath sings, please? %The example here shows the thickness of barlines and breathsings side by side \version "2.12.2" \paper{ ragged-right=##t indent=0\cm } \include "gregorian.ly" \score { \new Voice = "cantus" { \clef "G_8" a4 \divisioMinima g \virgula c \divisioMaior d \bar "|" g \divisioMaxima d \bar "||" e \finalis } } %end of musical example Another problem is that the 'extra-X-extent property of breath signs does not seem to work as the breath signs (and barlines after all too) appear too close to the note which is on the left of them even though there is a special 'extra-X-extent applied in the gregorian.ly definition. It seems that the property is ignored by lilypond in this case. Is it a bug? http://www.nabble.com/file/p21761121/div2.png -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Breathe-signs-too-narrow-%28slim%29-compared-to-barlines-tp21761121p21761121.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe X-offset
Trevor Daniels wrote: Mats Many thanks - this works perfectly! Could I have discovered this for myself from the documentation? Partly, but not entirely. space-alist is not mentioned in the 2.10 User Manual, and although space-alist is shown as one of the standard settings for BreathingSign in the Program Reference the list shown there mentions neither next-note nor fixed-space. You have to click on break-aligned-interface at the bottom of the page to get more documentation of space-alist. What's not documented anywhere, and I discovered myself very recently in a post on the mailing list, is the possibility to add one entry to the list, using the extended syntax: \override Object #'property #'subproperty = ... which happens to work also here, since subproperties are internally represented in exactly the same kind of list structure that is used in space-alist. OTOH it _does_ say BreathingSign supports the grob-interface, which says that X-offset is user-settable, yet it is not. Or am I misunderstanding something? It's certainly settable! However, it seems that the value is never read. The same holds in many other occasions as well, see for example the documentation of minimum-length at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/spanner_002dinterface Unfortunately, most of these dependencies are not fully documented and I guess that providing an exhaustive documentation would be more or less impossible, given the possibilities to extend and modify LilyPond using inline Scheme code. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: \breathe X-offset
Mats Many thanks - this works perfectly! Could I have discovered this for myself from the documentation? space-alist is not mentioned in the 2.10 User Manual, and although space-alist is shown as one of the standard settings for BreathingSign in the Program Reference the list shown there mentions neither next-note nor fixed-space. OTOH it _does_ say BreathingSign supports the grob-interface, which says that X-offset is user-settable, yet it is not. Or am I misunderstanding something? Trevor > -Original Message- > From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 September 2007 09:12 > To: Trevor Daniels > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: \breathe X-offset > > > The horizontal position is determined using a > completely different > mechanism. > For example, if you want to move the breathing > sign further away from the > next note, you can use > \override BreathingSign #'space-alist #'next-note > = #'(fixed-space . 2.5) > >/Mats > > Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a > > breathing sign using X-offset. According to the program > > reference the BreathingSign obeys the > grob-interface, and > > indeed Y-offset works fine. But if I replace > Y-offset with > > X-offset in the code below it seems to have no > effect. Is > > this a known bug or is there some other reason why this > > fails? > > > > Trevor (D) > > > > \version "2.10.20" > > { > > \relative b' { > > b2. > > \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5 > > %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5 > > \breathe > > b4 > > } > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > > -- > = > Mats Bengtsson > Signal Processing > Signals, Sensors and Systems > Royal Institute of Technology > SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM > Sweden > Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 > Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe > = > > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe X-offset
The horizontal position is determined using a completely different mechanism. For example, if you want to move the breathing sign further away from the next note, you can use \override BreathingSign #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(fixed-space . 2.5) /Mats Trevor Daniels wrote: Hi I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a breathing sign using X-offset. According to the program reference the BreathingSign obeys the grob-interface, and indeed Y-offset works fine. But if I replace Y-offset with X-offset in the code below it seems to have no effect. Is this a known bug or is there some other reason why this fails? Trevor (D) \version "2.10.20" { \relative b' { b2. \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5 %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5 \breathe b4 } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe X-offset
Hi I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a breathing sign using X-offset. According to the program reference the BreathingSign obeys the grob-interface, and indeed Y-offset works fine. But if I replace Y-offset with X-offset in the code below it seems to have no effect. Is this a known bug or is there some other reason why this fails? Trevor (D) \version "2.10.20" { \relative b' { b2. \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5 %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5 \breathe b4 } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Moving breathe sign
Mats - My thanks and my apologies to you! I thought I had tried all permutations, including the example snippet without the \once. I used the \once \override before the note because I thought (just as you surmised) that \once \override covered the next musical moment, and that (since \breathe came directly after the note) the breathe sign was attached to the note. I do not know which objects are attached and which are not, so I'll try both in the future. Thanks again, Ralph -Original Message- From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:51 AM To: Palmer, Ralph Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Moving breathe sign I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see that it works. If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property setting indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting done with \once ... only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note before the breating sign, it only applies to the note, where it of course doesn't have any effect. Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it should work well. I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where you did, since that's the correct solution when you want to move an articulation, a text script, a slur or a dynamic indication, for example. The reason is that all these are connected to a specific note and happen "simultaneously" with the note, whereas the breathe sign is handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or ..., that happen "between" the notes. Tricky indeed! /Mats Palmer, Ralph wrote: > Greetings - > > Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. > > I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2. > > Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two > notehead sizes in one chord. > > Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign, > and having no luck. Here's a snippet: > > ++ Begin Snippet + > > \version "2.10.16" > > \paper { > ragged-right = ##t > } > > Breathe = { > \key d \minor > \clef alto > \time 2/2 > > > c'4 c' c' c' | > \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0) > b8[\breathe b] < c' c >( d e fis gis e) | > > } > > \score { > \Breathe > } > > +++ End Snippet > > I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, > and Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each > possible combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've > also tried using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also > tried using \tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately > before \breathe, also with no effect. > > Any suggestions for what to try next? > > I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their > help and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like > .abc, and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, > although .abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and > flexibility are wonderful. Thanks again. > > Cheers, > > Ralph > + > Ralph Palmer > Energy/Administrative Coordinator > Keene State College > Keene, NH 03435-2502 > Phone: 603-358-2230 > Cell: 603-209-2903 > Fax: 603-358-2456 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Moving breathe sign
I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see that it works. If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property setting indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting done with \once ... only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note before the breating sign, it only applies to the note, where it of course doesn't have any effect. Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it should work well. I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where you did, since that's the correct solution when you want to move an articulation, a text script, a slur or a dynamic indication, for example. The reason is that all these are connected to a specific note and happen "simultaneously" with the note, whereas the breathe sign is handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or ..., that happen "between" the notes. Tricky indeed! /Mats Palmer, Ralph wrote: Greetings - Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2. Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two notehead sizes in one chord. Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign, and having no luck. Here's a snippet: ++ Begin Snippet + \version "2.10.16" \paper { ragged-right = ##t } Breathe = { \key d \minor \clef alto \time 2/2 c'4 c' c' c' | \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0) b8[\breathe b] < c' c >( d e fis gis e) | } \score { \Breathe } +++ End Snippet I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using \tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before \breathe, also with no effect. Any suggestions for what to try next? I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc, and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although .abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are wonderful. Thanks again. Cheers, Ralph + Ralph Palmer Energy/Administrative Coordinator Keene State College Keene, NH 03435-2502 Phone: 603-358-2230 Cell: 603-209-2903 Fax: 603-358-2456 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Moving breathe sign
Greetings - Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2. Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two notehead sizes in one chord. Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign, and having no luck. Here's a snippet: ++ Begin Snippet + \version "2.10.16" \paper { ragged-right = ##t } Breathe = { \key d \minor \clef alto \time 2/2 c'4 c' c' c' | \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0) b8[\breathe b] < c' c >( d e fis gis e) | } \score { \Breathe } +++ End Snippet I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using \tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before \breathe, also with no effect. Any suggestions for what to try next? I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc, and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although .abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are wonderful. Thanks again. Cheers, Ralph + Ralph Palmer Energy/Administrative Coordinator Keene State College Keene, NH 03435-2502 Phone: 603-358-2230 Cell: 603-209-2903 Fax: 603-358-2456 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 17:24 schrieben Sie: > It turns out that you irregular spacing has nothing to do with the > breathe signs. > The problem was that your setting of > \override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0) > in \ScoreSettings only applied to the first line of lyrics (I was > actually a bit surprised that it applied to any of the Lyrics contexts at > all). Ah, thanks! > Please read in the manual on how to do settings that apply to all Lyrics > contexts > in a score, for example. Then, you will rather come up with something like > \layout { > \context { > \Score > skipBars = ##t > } > \context { > \Lyrics > \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0) > } > } > as a replacement for your current \ScoreSettings. Thanks, that worked like a charm! Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFQf4gTqjEwhXvPN0RAo94AKDdC8FxLZB0XfbN1CGbo01W7K/ShwCfY3QD nbE4fTx3HdizwS036vVfqfI= =jaQW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing
It turns out that you irregular spacing has nothing to do with the breathe signs. The problem was that your setting of \override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0) in \ScoreSettings only applied to the first line of lyrics (I was actually a bit surprised that it applied to any of the Lyrics contexts at all). Please read in the manual on how to do settings that apply to all Lyrics contexts in a score, for example. Then, you will rather come up with something like \layout { \context { \Score skipBars = ##t } \context { \Lyrics \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0) } } as a replacement for your current \ScoreSettings. Then, you will see that the only thing that affects the vertical distance between the lyric lines, is the comma signs that extend slightly below the base line of the font. /Mats Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 09:47 schrieben Sie: I can't figure out exactly what you mean. Please post a small but complete (i.e. runnable) example. Okay, .ly and .pdf file attached. I want all lyrics line to have the same small line spacing as the first two stanzas have. Cheers, Reinhold Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Hi, A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing into the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because that solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it seems that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply ignored). Is there any solution to this? Thanks a lot, Reinhold PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane webinterface does not allow you to attach files... \version "2.7.40" \header { title = "Breathe sign in lyrics" composer = "Notice the different line spacing in the lyrics!" } ScoreSettings = { \set Score.skipBars = ##t \override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0) } music = \relative c' { f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | } VerseI = \lyricmode { blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah } VerseII = \lyricmode { blah blah blah blah blah \markup{ ach, \raise #1.0 \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" } blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah } \score { \context ChoirStaff << \ScoreSettings \context Staff = women << \context Voice = sopranos { \voiceOne << \music >> } >> \context Lyrics = sopranosI \lyricsto sopranos \VerseI \context Lyrics = sopranosII \lyricsto sopranos \VerseII \context Lyrics = sopranosIII \lyricsto sopranos \VerseI \context Lyrics = sopranosIV \lyricsto sopranos \VerseII \context Staff = men << \context Voice = tenors { \voiceOne << \music >> } >> >> } -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing
I can't figure out exactly what you mean. Please post a small but complete (i.e. runnable) example. Just paste it into the main text of the email. If gmane complains about "top posting", see http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2006-05/msg00038.html /Mats Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Hi, A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing into the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because that solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it seems that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply ignored). Is there any solution to this? Thanks a lot, Reinhold PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane webinterface does not allow you to attach files... -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing
Hi, A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing into the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because that solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it seems that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply ignored). Is there any solution to this? Thanks a lot, Reinhold PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane webinterface does not allow you to attach files... -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial and Actuarial Mathematics, TU Wien, http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/ * K Desktop Environment, http://www.kde.org, KOrganizer maintainer * Chorvereinigung "Jung-Wien", http://www.jung-wien.at/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe in lily 2.9.14
This bug is fixed in the latest source code, so you can look forward to version 2.9.15. As always, I recommend the latest stable version, 2.8.6, for any serious work. If you want to use the development version, please send bug reports to bug-lilypond (but first check if the bug already has been reported, as in this case). /Mats Simon Dahlbacka wrote: Running the following file through lily 2.9.14 on winxp % breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly> \version "2.9.14" \relative c' { c c \breathe c c } % end breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly> Produces the following output: D:\Scores\>lilypond --png breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly> GNU LilyPond 2.9.14 Processing `breathe.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... warning: Unknown event class breathing-sign-event[1] Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... [2] Drawing systems... Calculating page breaks... Layout output to `breathe.ps'... Converting to PNG... and the resulting png (or pdf) does not show any signs of a breathing sign, am I missing something obvious? /Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe in lily 2.9.14
Running the following file through lily 2.9.14 on winxp % breathe.ly\version "2.9.14"\relative c' { c c \breathe c c }% end breathe.ly Produces the following output:D:\Scores\>lilypond --png breathe.lyGNU LilyPond 2.9.14Processing `breathe.ly'Parsing...Interpreting music...warning: Unknown event class breathing-sign-event[1] Preprocessing graphical objects...Calculating line breaks... [2]Drawing systems...Calculating page breaks...Layout output to `breathe.ps'...Converting to PNG...and the resulting png (or pdf) does not show any signs of a breathing sign, am I missing something obvious? /Simon breathe.png Description: PNG image ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \breathe
LEGRAND Jean-Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there any way to move up or down the \breathe sign ? Look up Changing defaults -> Tuning output -> Common Tweaks in the manual. -- Feri. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\breathe
Hi again ! Is there any way to move up or down the \breathe sign ? Thanks for all ! ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optional \breathe
As indicated in the manual, you can change the breathe sign by redefining the text property. Then, you can read the section on text markup to find out an apropriate value. For example, you may want to try this \property Score.BreathingSign \override #'text = \markup{ \musicglyph #"accidentals-leftparen" \musicglyph #"scripts-rcomma" \musicglyph #"accidentals-rightparen" } (I have only tried it with a recent development version but changed the syntax to correspond to version 2.0.x.) /Mats Jeremy Cowgar wrote: Greetings. In typesetting some flute music for beginners (myself), optional breathe marks exist in my source and I would like to include them in my LilyPond document. They are indicated by (')... instead of the normal '. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks, Jeremy ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Optional breathe mark?
Greetings. In beginner flute music, I need to typeset some optional breathe marks. (') instead of '. Can this be done? How? I know how to format with the \breathe but am not certian about wrapping it in quotes Thank you. Jeremy ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Optional \breathe
Greetings. In typesetting some flute music for beginners (myself), optional breathe marks exist in my source and I would like to include them in my LilyPond document. They are indicated by (')... instead of the normal '. Can this be done? If so, how? Thanks, Jeremy ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
line break at breathe mark (was: Re: no flags replace broken beam)
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Thomas Willhalm in gnu.lilypond.bugs wrote: >> >> melodie = \notes \relative c'' { >> \partial 2 r8 g g e | g4 g e8()c4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe \bar "empty" >> \break >> g g e | f4 f d8()b4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe \bar "empty" \break >> g g e | g4 g e8()c4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe \bar "empty" \break >> g g e | g g g g f d4. | c4 r >> \bar "|." >> } >> \score { >> \context Staff \melodie >> \paper { } >> } > > I dare say that your example is fairly non-standard. I have seen it several times that lines are broken at breathe mark. In particular, the copy of the attached song was set in this way. (See http://www.inf.uni-konstanz.de/~willhalm/misc/WennDasBrotDasWirTeilen.pdf if you don't want to run lilypond yourself.) I'm seeking for your advice, whether I should set it in the same way. In my opinion, it's convenient for singing, but if others are irritated and find it disturbing, I will change it. Thanks for your advice Thomas\version "1.6.7" \paper{ papersize = "a4" } \include "paper26.ly" \include "german-chords-init.ly" Begleitung = \chords { \property Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic guitar (nylon)" \skip 4 d2 b:min e:min a fis:min e:7 a4 e a } BegleitungEnde = \chords { \property Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic guitar (nylon)" a4:7 b2:min fis:min e:min a d b:min g:6 a b:min fis:min e:min a b:min e:min f a:7 d4 b:min g:6 a d2. \bar "|." } Melodie = \notes \transpose d \relative c'' { \property Staff.midiInstrument = "flute" \property Staff.transposing = #+12 \time 4/4 \key c \major \partial 4 e8^"Strophe" f | g4 g8 e c4 d8 e | f4 e d \breathe\bar "empty"\break e8 f | g4 g8 g a4 b8 c | b4 a g \breathe\bar "empty"\break } MelodieEnde = \notes \transpose d \relative c''' { a8^"Refrain" b | c4 c8 c b4 g8 g | a4 a g \breathe\bar "empty"\break c,8 d | e4 e8 e e4 d8 c | d2. \breathe\bar "empty"\break a'8 b | c4 c8 c b4 g8 g | a4 a g\breathe\bar "empty"\break c,8 d | e4 [e8 e] [f8 e] f4 | g2.\breathe\bar "empty" c,8 d | e4 [e8 e] [f8 e] d4 | c2. } textstrophea = \lyrics { \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "1." Wenn das Brot, das wir tei -- len, als Ro -- se blüht und das Wort, das wir spre -- chen, als Lied er -- klingt, } textstropheb= \lyrics { \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "2." Wenn das Leid je -- des Ar -- men uns Chris -- tus zeigt und die Not, die wir lin -- dern, zur Freu -- de wird, } textstrophec= \lyrics { \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "3." Wenn die Hand, die wir hal -- ten, uns sel -- ber hält und das Kleid, das wir schen -- ken, auch uns be -- deckt, } textstrophed= \lyrics { \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "4." Wenn der Trost, den wir ge -- ben, uns wei -- ter trägt und der Schmerz, den wir tei -- len, zur Hoff -- nung wird, } textstrophee= \lyrics { \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "5." Wenn das Leid, das wir tra -- gen, den Weg uns weist, und der Tod, den wir ster -- ben, vom Le -- ben singt, } textrefrain = \lyrics { dann hat Gott un -- ter uns schon sein Haus ge -- baut, dann wohnt er schon in un -- se -- rer Welt. Ja, dann schau -- en wir heut' schon sein An -- ge -- sicht in der Lie -- be, die al -- les um -- fängt, in der Lie -- be, die al -- les um -- fängt. } \score { \notes { \simultaneous { \context ChordNames \Begleitung \addlyrics \context Staff \Melodie \context Lyrics < \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-1" { \textstrophea } \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-2" { \textstropheb } \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-3" { \textstrophec } \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-4" { \textstrophed } \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-5" { \textstrophee } > } \simultaneous { \context ChordNames \BegleitungEnde \addlyrics \context Staff \MelodieEnde \context Lyrics \textrefrain } } \paper { linewidth = 6.375 \in indent = 0.0 \translator {\ChordNamesContext chordChanges = ##t } \translator{ \ScoreContext StanzaNumber \override #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note } } } \score { \notes { \simultaneous { \context Staff = "begleitung" { \Begleitung \BegleitungEnde } \context Staff = "melodie" { \Melodie\MelodieEnde } } } \midi { \tempo 4 = 130 } } ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user