Re: offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Johannes Roeßler

thx Pierre, that worked - I did not find it... now bookmarked..
See also: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign 
<http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign>

E.g.:

\version "2.19.58"
{
  \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2
  %\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1)
  %\tweak X-offset #-1
  \tweak space-alist.first-note #'(fixed-space . 3.0)
  \breathe a''!2
}

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 11:01, Pierre Perol-Schneider 
<mailto:pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset?
E.g.

\version "2.19.58"
{
  \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2
  \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1)
  %\tweak X-offset #-5
  \breathe a''!2
}

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit :

thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work..
\version "2.19.58"
{\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2}

Cheers
Joei

Hi Johannes,
How about:

\version "2.20"
{ c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 }

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit :

Hi group,

what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to
the left - I
only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands
but not to the
left :(

Using 2.19.58

Cheers
Joei








Re: offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
See also:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals/breathingsign
E.g.:

\version "2.19.58"
{
  \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2
  %\tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1)
  %\tweak X-offset #-1
  \tweak space-alist.first-note #'(fixed-space . 3.0)
  \breathe a''!2
}

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 11:01, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset?
> E.g.
>
> \version "2.19.58"
> {
>   \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2
>   \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1)
>   %\tweak X-offset #-5
>   \breathe a''!2
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler  a écrit :
>
>> thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work..
>> \version "2.19.58"
>> {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2}
>>
>> Cheers
>> Joei
>>
>> Hi Johannes,
>> How about:
>>
>> \version "2.20"
>> { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 }
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pierre
>>
>> Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler  a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi group,
>>>
>>> what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I
>>> only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the
>>> left :(
>>>
>>> Using 2.19.58
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Joei
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>


Re: offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
For such tiny adjsutment why not 'extra-offset?
E.g.

\version "2.19.58"
{
  \time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2
  \tweak extra-offset #'(-1 . 1)
  %\tweak X-offset #-5
  \breathe a''!2
}

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:55, Johannes Roeßler  a écrit :

> thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work..
> \version "2.19.58"
> {\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2}
>
> Cheers
> Joei
>
> Hi Johannes,
> How about:
>
> \version "2.20"
> { c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 }
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler  a écrit :
>
>> Hi group,
>>
>> what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I
>> only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the
>> left :(
>>
>> Using 2.19.58
>>
>> Cheers
>> Joei
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Johannes Roeßler

thx Pierre - thats whta I tried - doesn't work..
\version "2.19.58"
{\time 3/2 e''4 e'' a''2 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe a''!2}

Cheers
Joei

Hi Johannes,
How about:

\version "2.20"
{ c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 }

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler <mailto:j...@joei.de>> a écrit :


Hi group,

what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I
only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not
to the
left :(

Using 2.19.58

Cheers
Joei






Re: offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Johannes,
How about:

\version "2.20"
{ c'1 \tweak X-offset #-5 \breathe 1 }

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 30 déc. 2020 à 10:06, Johannes Roeßler  a écrit :

> Hi group,
>
> what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I
> only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the
> left :(
>
> Using 2.19.58
>
> Cheers
> Joei
>
>
>


offset \breathe sign

2020-12-30 Thread Johannes Roeßler

Hi group,

what would be the right way to shift a \breathe sign to the left - I 
only managed to move it up and down with \offset commands but not to the 
left :(


Using 2.19.58

Cheers
Joei




Re: fermata on a breathe sign?

2018-09-12 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Thank you, Aaron, that works.

Am 12.09.2018 um 15:53 schrieb Aaron Hill:
> On 2018-09-12 6:40 am, Aaron Hill wrote:
>> On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
>>> In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata
>>> raises
>>> the error:
>>> F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error,
>>> unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
>>>    \breathe
>>>     \fermata
>>
>> Hi Bernhard,
>>
>> Would this work for you?
>>
>> 
>> \version "2.19.82"
>> breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
>>   \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
>>     \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe }
>> << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >>
>> 
>
> Here is an variant that shows using \translate-scaled as opposed to
> simply \raise to accommodate an alternate glyph:
>
> 
> \version "2.19.82"
> breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
>   \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
>     \musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe }
> caesura-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
>   \markup { \combine
>     \translate-scaled #'(0.5 . 1.5) \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
>     \musicglyph "scripts.caesura.straight" } \breathe }
> << { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 | b'2. \caesura-fermata b'4 } >>
> 
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Re: fermata on a breathe sign?

2018-09-12 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2018-09-12 6:40 am, Aaron Hill wrote:

On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata 
raises

the error:
F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error,
unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
   \breathe
\fermata


Hi Bernhard,

Would this work for you?


\version "2.19.82"
breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
  \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
\musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe }
<< { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >>



Here is an variant that shows using \translate-scaled as opposed to 
simply \raise to accommodate an alternate glyph:



\version "2.19.82"
breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
  \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
\musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe }
caesura-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
  \markup { \combine
\translate-scaled #'(0.5 . 1.5) \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
\musicglyph "scripts.caesura.curved" } \breathe }
<< { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 | b'2. \caesura-fermata b'4 } >>


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Re: fermata on a breathe sign?

2018-09-12 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2018-09-12 6:24 am, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata 
raises

the error:
F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error,
unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
   \breathe
\fermata


Hi Bernhard,

Would this work for you?


\version "2.19.82"
breathe-fermata = { \once \override BreathingSign.text =
  \markup { \combine \raise #1 \musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
\musicglyph "scripts.rcomma" } \breathe }
<< { b'2. \breathe-fermata b'4 } >>



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fermata on a breathe sign?

2018-09-12 Thread Bernhard Kleine
In the attached foto you see the template. Using \breathe\fermata raises
the error:
F:/Meine Noten/EigeneNoten/test.ly:149:13: error: syntax error,
unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER
   \breathe
\fermata


. Please show me a solution to this.
(Version 2.19.82)

Regards

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Re: Re: midi \breathe

2017-10-19 Thread Gianmaria Lari
On 18 October 2017 at 23:43, Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:

>
> []
>
> Here is an common approch:  use tags to identify content that is
> MIDI-specific, as well as PDF-specific. []
>

Thank you Flaming and Johan for your help! Yes, I will use the tag
technique.
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Re: Re: midi \breathe

2017-10-18 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> From: Gianmaria Lari 
> To: lilypond-user 
>
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 14:10:57 +0200
> Subject: midi \breathe
> I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using
> the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following code
>
> \version "2.19.65"
> \include "articulate.ly"
>
> music = \fixed c' {
>   c4 d e f \breathe
>   c4 d e f
> }
>
> \score {
>   \articulate \music
>   \layout {}
>   \midi{}
> }
>
>
> but it doesn't look to work.
>
> I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this
>
> \version "2.19.65"
> \include "articulate.ly"
>
> music = \fixed c' {
>   c4 d e f
>   \partial 4 r4
>   c4 d e f
> }
>
> \score {
>   \articulate \music
>   \layout {}
>   \midi{}
> }
>
> but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard.
>
> Thank you, g.
>

Here is an common approch:  use tags to identify content that is
MIDI-specific, as well as PDF-specific.

Then use two scores, and target different tags for each score.


\version "2.19.15"
\include "articulate.ly"

 music = \relative c' {

c4 d e f

\tag #'(PDF) {
%  This tag isn't necessary, but I'm adding it just to show the
pattern,
%  since you might have PDF-specific content, as well as
MIDI-specific content.
%  In this case, you could leave the breath mark in the MIDI, too,
%  but it will be ignored as you have found out.  Here, it is clear
it only applies to the PDF

<>\breathe
}

\tag #'(MIDI) {
\partial 4 r4
}

c4 d e f
}

\score {
\keepWithTag #'(PDF) \music
\layout {}
}

\score {
\articulate \keepWithTag #'(MIDI) \music
\midi{}
}




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Re: midi \breathe

2017-10-18 Thread Johan Vromans
In sitations like this, I use tags.

Something similar to this:

  music = {
...
\tag #'midiOnly { c8. r16 } \tag #'scoreOnly { c4 }
...
  }

  \score {
\articulate \removeWithTag #'midiOnly \music
\layout {}
   }

  \score {
\articulate \removeWithTag #'scoreOnly \unfoldRepeats \music
\midi{}
  }

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Re: midi \breathe

2017-10-18 Thread Gianmaria Lari
On 18 October 2017 at 15:17, Ben  wrote:

> On 10/18/2017 8:10 AM, Gianmaria Lari wrote:
>
> I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using
> the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following
> code[]
>
>
> I think I understand your question - you're looking for a way to program a
> small pause in the MIDI *playback*, not just the notation? Yes?
>
> Hmmm, I don't know if my answer is more "simpler/standard" but, you may
> want to edit the MIDI outside of LilyPond once it's finished, rather than
> mess around with the input file any further. Depending on how many "pauses"
> you need in your MIDI score, etc.
>
> But \partial should do the trick in a quick and dirty way! ;) No?
>
> If you prefer to keep it simple, clean, and in LilyPond only, probably
> \partial is the cleanest way to do it without too much headache. That's
> what I would do.
>
> Otherwise, I'd edit the MIDI in more detail once you realize it and need
> to finalize it outside of LilyPond (which is what I personally do often
> when my piece is finished).
>

The biggest side effect of modify the midi file outside lilypond is that is
something that go lost in case I have to modify the music and that need to
be done again. Not really doable.

Thank you anyway, g.
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Re: midi \breathe

2017-10-18 Thread Ben

On 10/18/2017 8:10 AM, Gianmaria Lari wrote:
I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried 
using the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the 
following code


I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this

\version "2.19.65"
\include "articulate.ly <http://articulate.ly>"

music = \fixed c' {
  c4 d e f
\partial 4 r4
  c4 d e f
}

\score {
  \articulate \music
  \layout {}
  \midi{}
}

but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard.



Hi G,

I think I understand your question - you're looking for a way to program 
a small pause in the MIDI *playback*, not just the notation? Yes?


Hmmm, I don't know if my answer is more "simpler/standard" but, you may 
want to edit the MIDI outside of LilyPond once it's finished, rather 
than mess around with the input file any further. Depending on how many 
"pauses" you need in your MIDI score, etc.


But \partial should do the trick in a quick and dirty way! ;) No?

If you prefer to keep it simple, clean, and in LilyPond only, probably 
\partial is the cleanest way to do it without too much headache. That's 
what I would do.


Otherwise, I'd edit the MIDI in more detail once you realize it and need 
to finalize it outside of LilyPond (which is what I personally do often 
when my piece is finished).
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midi \breathe

2017-10-18 Thread Gianmaria Lari
I would like to introduce a small breath in the midi file. I tried using
the \breathe command with \articulate script like in the following code

\version "2.19.65"
\include "articulate.ly"

music = \fixed c' {
  c4 d e f \breathe
  c4 d e f
}

\score {
  \articulate \music
  \layout {}
  \midi{}
}


but it doesn't look to work.

I could put a partial measure with a pause in the midi like this

\version "2.19.65"
\include "articulate.ly"

music = \fixed c' {
  c4 d e f
  \partial 4 r4
  c4 d e f
}

\score {
  \articulate \music
  \layout {}
  \midi{}
}

but I wonder if there is anything more simpler/standard.

Thank you, g.
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Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 28.08.2017 21:49, Bernhard Kleine wrote:

Am 28.08.2017 um 21:24 schrieb David Kastrup:

Does
{ c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 }

help?

It does! thank you. BTW: What do I to do to make it the variable
\breathedown at the beginning of the setting?


That’s just a simple variable definition:
breathedown = \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe

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Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto

2017-08-28 Thread Bernhard Kleine


Am 28.08.2017 um 21:24 schrieb David Kastrup:
> Bernhard Kleine  writes:
>
>> I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz.
>> sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for
>> sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But
>> I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto
>> which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff.
>>
>> Where could I find the info for this?
>>
>> Regards and thanks for any help
> You don't provide a minimal example.  Does
>
> { c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 }
>
> help?
>
>
It does! thank you. BTW: What do I to do to make it the variable
\breathedown at the beginning of the setting?


thanks for the prompt response.
Bernhard


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Re: \breathe sign to be inline with alto

2017-08-28 Thread David Kastrup
Bernhard Kleine  writes:

> I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz.
> sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for
> sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But
> I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto
> which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff.
>
> Where could I find the info for this?
>
> Regards and thanks for any help

You don't provide a minimal example.  Does

{ c'1 \tweak Y-offset -2 \breathe c'1 }

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\breathe sign to be inline with alto

2017-08-28 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Hi,

I try to set Verleih uns Frieden, a motette from Heinrich Schütz.
sopranoII and alto are in the same staff. The \breathe sign for
sopranoII is easy, simple \breathe and it moves to top of the staff. But
I could not find any help for the corresponding breathing sign for alto
which should go not to the top but to the bottom of the staff.

Where could I find the info for this?

Regards and thanks for any help

Bernhard

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Re: \breathe too close to note

2015-09-05 Thread MarcM
the music i am typesetting looks even worse with the default behavior.
Looking back at the original.
thanks to your hints i made some adjustments and it looks much better.
Thnks.


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Re: \breathe too close to note

2015-09-05 Thread Simon Albrecht

<http://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4556/>

Am 05.09.2015 um 05:17 schrieb MarcM:

The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug.
I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any
workaround?

\version "2.19.26"
\language "english"


   \relative c' { f2 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}


   % breathe is too close

   \relative c' { f4 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}


   % breathe is almost invisible

   \relative c' { f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}




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Re: \breathe too close to note

2015-09-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Marc,

On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Andrew Bernard  wrote:

> \relative c' {
>   \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0)
>   f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe
> }

Note that extra-offset happens *after* spacing is complete; perhaps that’s what 
you want.

If not, there are other options, e.g.

\version "2.18.0"

\layout { indent = 0 ragged-right = ##t }

\relative c' {
\omit Staff.TimeSignature

    f8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break

\override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0)
    f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break

\override BreathingSign.extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 1.5)
f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe
}

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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Re: \breathe too close to note

2015-09-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Marc,

On Sep 5, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Andrew Bernard  wrote:

> \relative c' {
>   \override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0)
>   f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe
> }

Note that extra-offset happens *after* spacing is complete; perhaps that’s what 
you want.

If not, there are other options, e.g.

\version "2.18.0"

\layout { indent = 0 ragged-right = ##t }

\relative c' {
\omit Staff.TimeSignature

    f8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break

\override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0)
    f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe \break

\override BreathingSign.extra-spacing-width = #'(-0.5 . 1.5)
f,8 g a bes \breathe c d e f \breathe
}

Hope this helps!
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Re: \breathe too close to note

2015-09-04 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi MarcM,

This would work:

\relative c' {
\override BreathingSign.extra-offset = #'(1.0 . 0)
f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe
}



Andrew



On 5/09/2015 13:17, "MarcM" 
 wrote:

>
>The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug.
>I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any
>workaround? 


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\breathe too close to note

2015-09-04 Thread MarcM

The \breathe sign collides with the note. This seems like a bug.
I've read on a post that offset does not have any effect on \breathe any
workaround? 

\version "2.19.26"
\language "english"


  \relative c' { f2 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}


  % breathe is too close

  \relative c' { f4 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}


  % breathe is almost invisible

  \relative c' { f8 g a bf \breathe c d e f \breathe}




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RE: Breathe mark problem

2014-03-02 Thread Peter Gentry

>-Original Message-
>From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] 
>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 4:28 PM
>To: Peter Gentry
>Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>Subject: Re: Breathe mark problem
>
>"Peter Gentry"  writes:
>
>> Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- 
>> Frescobaldi 2.0.13
>>
>> When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with 
>> "unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER"
>>
>> {
>>  \clef "treble"
>>  \time 4/4
>>  g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 \breathe ) [ bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ]
>> ) | % 37
>> }
>>
>> It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if 
>> there is a beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does anyone 
>> know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between 
>two beamed 
>> notes?
>
>\breathe is not an articulation but rather a music event of 
>its own.  So it has to come after any articulations on the 
>previous note.
>
>
Thanks David. 

I was put off by the manual reference   "note\breathe" as the syntax'
Placing \breathe after the "note)[" never occurred to me.
I think of a breath mark in the same light as other textural annotations - an 
indictaion or advice for the performer rather than an
event as such. We live and learn (and forget), thanks.


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Re: Breathe mark problem

2014-03-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Peter Gentry"  writes:

> Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- Frescobaldi 
> 2.0.13
>
> When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with
> "unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER"
>
> {
>  \clef "treble"
>  \time 4/4
>  g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 \breathe ) [ bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ]
> ) | % 37
> }
>
> It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if
> there is a beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does anyone
> know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between two beamed
> notes?

\breathe is not an articulation but rather a music event of its own.  So
it has to come after any articulations on the previous note.

{
 \clef "treble"
 \time 4/4
 g''8 [ g'8 ( ] a'8 [ f'8 ] bes'8 ) [ \breathe bes'8 ( ] c''8 [ f'8 ]
) | % 37
}


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Breathe mark problem

2014-03-02 Thread Peter Gentry
Lilypond 2.18.0 - Windows Vista Home Premium (fully patched)- Frescobaldi 2.0.13

When \breathe is used with beams the score fails to compile with "unexpected 
EVENT_IDENTIFIER"

{
 \clef "treble"
 \time 4/4
 g''8 [  g'8 (  ]  a'8 [  f'8 ]  bes'8 \breathe )   [  bes'8 (  ]  c''8 [  f'8 
] )  |  % 37
}

It doesn't appear to matter which note is followed by \breathe if there is a 
beam it fails - take baems away and it works. Does
anyone know a workaround or tweak to achieve a breath mark between two beamed 
notes?

Thanks in advance

regards
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Re: Re:how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-18 Thread Eluze
Jay Hamilton-2 wrote
> Thanks to all trying to help the forgetful.
> The # did not solve the problem--- what it did do was allow the file to
> compile without the fermata - so just the breath mark.
> The longer solution i.e. Mr. Morley's does work both of them-
> so now I'm wondering is there a way to make this a global setting?
> At the moment I have put it before each instrument's staff this works but
> I'm guessing there's a cleaner way to do it.
> 
> Thanks again.  I do forget that you all are using the unstable versions.
> Sorry
> Jay

please read the proposed functions carefully and also read the log!

if you only add a hash (#) before the variable name (text) without the
apostrophe (') you'll see an error in the log and the sign created will not
contain the fermata.

if you think your code is correct but doesn't perform what you're expecting
you should attach that code (and mention the version you're using)

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Re:how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Sam Frybyte
Thanks to all trying to help the forgetful.
The # did not solve the problem--- what it did do was allow the file to
compile without the fermata - so just the breath mark.
The longer solution i.e. Mr. Morley's does work both of them-
so now I'm wondering is there a way to make this a global setting?
At the moment I have put it before each instrument's staff this works but
I'm guessing there's a cleaner way to do it.

Thanks again.  I do forget that you all are using the unstable versions.
Sorry
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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Noeck
4 answers within 2 minutes :)

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Noeck


Am 17.02.2013 16:05, schrieb Jay Hamilton:
> Alas none of the proposed solutions work 
> version 2.16.1
> here's the logs
> 
> Joram's solution
> 
> breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting
> SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
> 
> c c \once \override BreathingSign.text
> 
> = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe

I did stick to the proposed snipped which was written for version 2.17.x
(x=6 or higher definitely works).

If you want to use it with 2.16, you have to write the override command
like this:
\once \override BreathingSign #'text = …

( #' instead of .)

HTH
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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/2/17 Jay Hamilton :
> Alas none of the proposed solutions work
> version 2.16.1
> here's the logs

Hi Jay,

all proposals are working - with 2.17

Please, _*always*_ mention your version!!

For 2.16. use:

breatheFermataE = \markup {
  \combine
  \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
  \raise #1
  \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
}
\relative {
  c c \once \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup \breatheFermataE \breathe
  c c
}


breatheFermataN = {
  \once \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup {
\combine
\musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
    \raise #1
\musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
  }
  \breathe
}
\relative c' {
  c c \breatheFermataN
  c c
}


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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread David Nalesnik
Jay,

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Jay Hamilton  wrote:

> Alas none of the proposed solutions work
> version 2.16.1
> here's the logs
>
> Joram's solution
>
> breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting
> SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
>
> c c \once \override BreathingSign.text
>
> = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe
>
>
>  Eluze's solution
>
> breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting
> SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
>
> c c \once \override BreathingSign.text
>
> = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe
>
> and what I hoped with the s32*0 really messed things up usually putting
> the fermata over the following measure rest or note.
>
> So what's next? Or .. [btw please notice that I have begun to use 2.16
> but that does not mean I comprehend assorted idioms like the difference of
> tweak to once or even where to place these suggestions so I just pasted
> each one into a 2.16 template to find the error]
>

Please specify your version when you ask the question in the first place.
 Both Joram and Eluze have answered you based on a newer syntax which isn't
recognized yet in 2.16.

To get both to work in 2.16,, use BreathingSign #'text  instead of
BreathingSign.text

HTH,
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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Eluze
Jay Hamilton-3 wrote
> Alas none of the proposed solutions work

in pre-2.17.6 (?) versions you must write

\override BreathingSign #'text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Jay Hamilton
Alas none of the proposed solutions work
version 2.16.1
here's the logs

Joram's solution

breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting
SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN

c c \once \override BreathingSign.text

= \markup \breatheFermata \breathe


 Eluze's solution

breathe test.ly:31:41: error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting
SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN

c c \once \override BreathingSign.text

= \markup \breatheFermata \breathe

and what I hoped with the s32*0 really messed things up usually putting the
fermata over the following measure rest or note.

So what's next? Or .. [btw please notice that I have begun to use 2.16
but that does not mean I comprehend assorted idioms like the difference of
tweak to once or even where to place these suggestions so I just pasted
each one into a 2.16 template to find the error]

Jay

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-17 Thread Eluze
David Kastrup wrote
> Noeck <

> noeck.marburg@

> > writes:
> 
>> Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed
>> within the music, you can put the override in the command:
>>
>> breatheFermata = {
>>   \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup {
>> \combine
>> \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
>> \raise #1
>> \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
>>   }
>>   \breathe
>> }
> 
> Doesn't \single\override (aka \tweak) work here?  A \tweak has the
> advantage of not messing with anything else happening at the same time.

yes it does - thanks for the indication!

I think the doc is rather poor concerning this kind of commands (\omit
\single \once) - for instance you can't find the command \omit explained in
NR, \single is limited to an example with \footnote, etc. - you can find
more in the Learning Manual (but imo the NR isn't a reference if such items
are not there)

ah - I just found an open issue concerning this, so let's hope for the
future!

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-16 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck  writes:

> Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed
> within the music, you can put the override in the command:
>
> breatheFermata = {
>   \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup {
> \combine
> \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
> \raise #1
> \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
>   }
>   \breathe
> }

Doesn't \single\override (aka \tweak) work here?  A \tweak has the
advantage of not messing with anything else happening at the same time.

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-16 Thread Noeck
Or, just as a slight variation: if you want to minimize the code needed
within the music, you can put the override in the command:

breatheFermata = {
  \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup {
\combine
\musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
\raise #1
\musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
  }
  \breathe
}
\relative c' {
  c c \breatheFermata
  c c
}

Cheers,
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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-16 Thread Eluze
Jay Hamilton-3 wrote
> Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma?

you can change the "text" of the breathing sine:

breatheFermata = \markup {
  \combine
  \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma"
  \raise #1
  \musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"
}
\relative {
  c c \once \override BreathingSign.text = \markup \breatheFermata \breathe
  c c
}

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Re: how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-16 Thread Nick Baskin
Have you tried using s32*0? That should at least take care of the timing
problem.

HTH
Nick
On Feb 16, 2013 11:47 AM, "Jay Hamilton"  wrote:

> Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma?  I.E. I
> suspect that using an s32 might MIGHT work but then in compiling lily
> thinks the measure count is all screwed up.
> Thanks
> Jay
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how to place fermata over \breathe?

2013-02-16 Thread Jay Hamilton
Is there a 'simple' way to get a fermata over the breathe comma?  I.E. I
suspect that using an s32 might MIGHT work but then in compiling lily
thinks the measure count is all screwed up.
Thanks
Jay

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Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???

2012-11-25 Thread Werner
Thank you for the solution!!
I just insert it in every voiceTwo:



\voiceTwo 
{   
% to get breathing-signs at bottom line instead of top line for lower voice:
\override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-2
... 
}



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Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???

2012-11-25 Thread David Kastrup
Werner  writes:

> Hello,
>
> i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for
> the lower
> voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave.
>
> Is there a possibility to get that behavior?

\new Staff <<
  { c'' \breathe c'' c'' c'' } \\
  { c' c' c' \tweak #'Y-offset #-2 \breathe c' }
>>

Maybe this should be the default.

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Re: \breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???

2012-11-25 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/11/25 Werner :
> Hello,
>
> i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for the 
> lower
> voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave.
>
> Is there a possibility to get that behavior?
>
> greetings
>
> Werner
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Hi Werner,

how about

\version "2.16.0"

I =
\relative c'' {
\voiceOne
c1
\breathe
d

}

II =
\relative c' {
\voiceTwo
c1
\override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-2
\breathe
d
}

\new Staff
<<
\new Voice \I
\new Voice \II
>>


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\breathe at the bottom in \voiceTwo ???

2012-11-25 Thread Werner
Hello,

i have two voices in one staff. I would like to get breathe-signs for the lower 
voice at the bottom line instead of the top line of the stave.

Is there a possibility to get that behavior?

greetings

Werner


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Re: Beginner's question: breathe marks only in lower voice

2011-11-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 November 2011 05:37, Mathias Koerber  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am just starting out with lilypond.
>
> I am setting a ChoirStaff score, and I would like to
> be able to set breahemarks on the lower voice on the treble
> staff only, but they appear at the top even is written
> in the lower voice.
>
> Is there a trick how I can restrict them to the lower voice?

In your lower voice, insert
  \override BreathingSign #'direction = #DOWN

Does it correspond to the output you want?

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Beginner's question: breathe marks only in lower voice

2011-11-15 Thread Mathias Koerber
Hi,

I am just starting out with lilypond.

I am setting a ChoirStaff score, and I would like to
be able to set breahemarks on the lower voice on the treble
staff only, but they appear at the top even is written
in the lower voice.

Is there a trick how I can restrict them to the lower voice?


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Re: Vertical position of a breathe sign

2011-06-15 Thread Neil Puttock
2011/6/15 Jakub Pavlík :

> I'm using sort of non-standard notation - in four-lines-staff in the way in 
> which gregorian chant is notated.
> In this way I set up the staff:
>
> \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-positions = #'(-7 -5 -3 -1)
>
> So, the notes B, D, F, A lie on the lines.
>
> But in this setup, the breathe sign is typesetted flying over the staff. I 
> want it to lie on the top-most line, on the line A, but I haven't found any 
> way to modify vertical positioning of this sign. Is there any?

Try this:

\override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-0.5

Cheers,
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Vertical position of a breathe sign

2011-06-15 Thread Jakub Pavlík
Hi,

I'm using sort of non-standard notation - in four-lines-staff in the way in 
which gregorian chant is notated.
In this way I set up the staff:

\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-positions = #'(-7 -5 -3 -1)

So, the notes B, D, F, A lie on the lines.

But in this setup, the breathe sign is typesetted flying over the staff. I want 
it to lie on the top-most line, on the line A, but I haven't found any way to 
modify vertical positioning of this sign. Is there any?

Thanks,
Jakub Pavlík

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Re: Moving breathe markings

2009-07-16 Thread Alexander Kobel

Josh Nichols wrote:
I want to move the breath marks from in the staff to above the staff in 
this example:


\version "2.12.2"
\relative c'' {
c \breathe d e \breathe f
}


Hi.

Use

\version "2.12.2"
\relative c'' {
c \breathe d
\override Voice . BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #3
e \breathe f
}

The neutral position (Y-offset = 0) is centered on the middle staff 
line; the distances are in staff sizes, so the default seems to be 
Y-offset = 2. Adjust to your needs.



Cheers,
Alexander


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Moving breathe markings

2009-07-16 Thread Josh Nichols
I want to move the breath marks from in the staff to above the staff in this
example:

\version "2.12.2"
\relative c'' {
c \breathe d e \breathe f
}

Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Thanks!
-
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Re: Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines

2009-01-31 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)

> A property that does work is 'minimum-X-extent, so I changed all 
> 'extra-X-extent --> 'minimum-X-extent, and the attached image is the 
> resulting output.  I don't know if this is more optimal or not, but 
> there is certainly a problem here.  I'll raise this issue on 
> lilypond-devel.


Hallo,
thank you very much. With the setting:
  \once \override BreathingSign  #'minimum-X-extent = #'(-1.6 . 0)
  \once \override BreathingSign  #'thickness = #2.1

to every BreathingSign in the gregorian.ly, I finally got more or less what
I wanted (see the picture).

However, the only thing which a bit discourages me from using Lilypond in my
musicological work is the fact that the documentation is somewhat behind the
current state of the program! I am always refering to the documentation
which is described as the "latest stable" - i.e. 2.12 and the outdated
definition of extra-X-extent are found there (B.13 Layout properties)! 
On the other side, what encourages me to use Lilypond is this fantastic
forum, where one always gets hints how to solve the problems! Marvellous
support.

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Re: Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines

2009-01-31 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Jiri,

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Jiri Zurek (Prague)  wrote:
>
> Although I can control the thickness of barlines in lilypond, I did not find
> the same property in breath signs which are used in old chant instead of
> barlines (divisio minor, maior, maxima, finalis) - these are defined in the
> gregorian.ly which is included in the lilypond distribution, but when I use
> them in conjunction with normal barlines (what I have to do), I would be
> happy that these breath signs are also a bit thicker to be similar to
> barlines - I love the thickness of barlines and therefore I do not want to
> make them slimmer to match the thickness of both items to be the same.
> How can I controll the thickness of the breath sings, please?

As you can see in ly/gregorian.ly, these are defined as BreathingSign
grobs, so you have to use overrides for the 'thickness property of
BreathingSign.

> Another problem is that the 'extra-X-extent property of breath signs does
> not seem to work as the breath signs (and barlines after all too) appear too
> close to the note which is on the left of them even though there is a
> special 'extra-X-extent applied in the gregorian.ly definition. It seems
> that the property is ignored by lilypond in this case. Is it a bug?

It is.  Checking the source code history, it appears that the
'extra-X-extent and 'extra-Y-extent properties were removed from
LilyPond in 2005.  Unfortunately the grob property is still
documented, and the overrides in ly/gregorian.ly still exist.  These
overrides have no affect on the musical output.

A property that does work is 'minimum-X-extent, so I changed all
'extra-X-extent --> 'minimum-X-extent, and the attached image is the
resulting output.  I don't know if this is more optimal or not, but
there is certainly a problem here.  I'll raise this issue on
lilypond-devel.

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Breathe signs too narrow (slim) compared to barlines

2009-01-31 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)

Although I can control the thickness of barlines in lilypond, I did not find
the same property in breath signs which are used in old chant instead of
barlines (divisio minor, maior, maxima, finalis) - these are defined in the
gregorian.ly which is included in the lilypond distribution, but when I use
them in conjunction with normal barlines (what I have to do), I would be
happy that these breath signs are also a bit thicker to be similar to
barlines - I love the thickness of barlines and therefore I do not want to
make them slimmer to match the thickness of both items to be the same.
How can I controll the thickness of the breath sings, please?



%The example here shows the thickness of barlines and breathsings side by
side

\version "2.12.2"

\paper{
  ragged-right=##t
  indent=0\cm
}

\include "gregorian.ly" 

\score {
\new Voice = "cantus" {
  \clef "G_8"
  a4 \divisioMinima
  g \virgula
  c \divisioMaior
  d \bar "|"
  g \divisioMaxima
  d \bar "||"
  e \finalis
}
}

%end of musical example

Another problem is that the 'extra-X-extent property of breath signs does
not seem to work as the breath signs (and barlines after all too) appear too
close to the note which is on the left of them even though there is a
special 'extra-X-extent applied in the gregorian.ly definition. It seems
that the property is ignored by lilypond in this case. Is it a bug?

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Re: \breathe X-offset

2007-09-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Trevor Daniels wrote:

Mats

Many thanks - this works perfectly!

Could I have discovered this for myself from the
documentation? 

Partly, but not entirely.

 space-alist is not mentioned in the 2.10
User Manual, and although space-alist is shown as one of the
standard settings for BreathingSign in the Program Reference
the list shown there mentions neither next-note nor
fixed-space.  

You have to click on break-aligned-interface at the bottom of the page to
get more documentation of space-alist.
What's not documented anywhere, and I discovered myself very recently in a
post on the mailing list, is the possibility to add one entry to the 
list, using the

extended syntax: \override Object #'property #'subproperty = ...
which happens to work also here, since subproperties are internally 
represented

in exactly the same kind of list structure that is used in space-alist.

OTOH it _does_ say BreathingSign supports the
grob-interface, which says that X-offset is user-settable,
yet it is not.  Or am I misunderstanding something?
  

It's certainly settable! However, it seems that the value is never read.
The same holds in many other occasions as well, see for example
the documentation of minimum-length at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/spanner_002dinterface
Unfortunately, most of these dependencies are not fully documented and
I guess that providing an exhaustive documentation would be more or less
impossible, given the possibilities to extend and modify LilyPond using
inline Scheme code.

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RE: \breathe X-offset

2007-09-18 Thread Trevor Daniels

Mats

Many thanks - this works perfectly!

Could I have discovered this for myself from the
documentation?  space-alist is not mentioned in the 2.10
User Manual, and although space-alist is shown as one of the
standard settings for BreathingSign in the Program Reference
the list shown there mentions neither next-note nor
fixed-space.  OTOH it _does_ say BreathingSign supports the
grob-interface, which says that X-offset is user-settable,
yet it is not.  Or am I misunderstanding something?

Trevor

> -Original Message-
> From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 September 2007 09:12
> To: Trevor Daniels
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: \breathe X-offset
>
>
> The horizontal position is determined using a
> completely different
> mechanism.
> For example, if you want to move the breathing
> sign further away from the
> next note, you can use
> \override BreathingSign #'space-alist #'next-note
> = #'(fixed-space . 2.5)
>
>/Mats
>
> Trevor Daniels wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a
> > breathing sign using X-offset.  According to the program
> > reference the BreathingSign obeys the
> grob-interface, and
> > indeed Y-offset works fine.  But if I replace
> Y-offset with
> > X-offset in the code below it seems to have no
> effect.  Is
> > this a known bug or is there some other reason why this
> > fails?
> >
> > Trevor (D)
> >
> > \version "2.10.20"
> > {
> >  \relative b' {
> >   b2.
> >   \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5
> >   %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5
> >   \breathe
> >   b4
> >  }
> > }
> >
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Re: \breathe X-offset

2007-09-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The horizontal position is determined using a completely different 
mechanism.

For example, if you want to move the breathing sign further away from the
next note, you can use
\override BreathingSign #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(fixed-space . 2.5)

  /Mats

Trevor Daniels wrote:

Hi

I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a
breathing sign using X-offset.  According to the program
reference the BreathingSign obeys the grob-interface, and
indeed Y-offset works fine.  But if I replace Y-offset with
X-offset in the code below it seems to have no effect.  Is
this a known bug or is there some other reason why this
fails?

Trevor (D)

\version "2.10.20"
{
 \relative b' {
  b2.
  \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5
  %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5
  \breathe
  b4
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\breathe X-offset

2007-09-17 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi

I'm having some difficulty adjusting the X position of a
breathing sign using X-offset.  According to the program
reference the BreathingSign obeys the grob-interface, and
indeed Y-offset works fine.  But if I replace Y-offset with
X-offset in the code below it seems to have no effect.  Is
this a known bug or is there some other reason why this
fails?

Trevor (D)

\version "2.10.20"
{
 \relative b' {
  b2.
  \once \override BreathingSign #'X-offset = #-5
  %\once \override BreathingSign #'Y-offset = #-5
  \breathe
  b4
 }
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RE: Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Mats -

My thanks and my apologies to you! I thought I had tried all
permutations, including the example snippet without the \once.

I used the \once \override before the note because I thought (just as
you surmised) that \once \override covered the next musical moment, and
that (since \breathe came directly after the note) the breathe sign was
attached to the note. I do not know which objects are attached and which
are not, so I'll try both in the future.

Thanks again,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 8:51 AM
To: Palmer, Ralph
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving breathe sign

I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see
that it works.
If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property
setting indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting
done with \once ...
only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note
before the breating sign, it only applies to the note, where it of
course doesn't have any effect.
Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it
should work well.
I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where
you did, since that's the correct solution when you want to move an
articulation, a text script, a slur or a dynamic indication, for
example. The reason is that all these are connected to a specific note
and happen "simultaneously" with the note, whereas the breathe sign is
handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or ...,
that happen "between" the notes.
Tricky indeed!

   /Mats

Palmer, Ralph wrote:
> Greetings -
>
> Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 
>
> I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.
>
> Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two 
> notehead sizes in one chord.
>
> Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,

> and having no luck. Here's a snippet:
>
> ++ Begin Snippet +
>
> \version "2.10.16"
>
> \paper {
>   ragged-right = ##t
>   }
>
> Breathe = {
>   \key d \minor
>   \clef alto
>   \time 2/2
>
>
>   c'4 c' c' c' |
>   \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
>   b8[\breathe b]  < c' c >( d e fis gis e) |
>
>   }
>   
> \score {
>   \Breathe
>   }
>
> +++ End Snippet 
>
> I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, 
> and Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each 
> possible combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've 
> also tried using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also 
> tried using \tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately 
> before \breathe, also with no effect.
>
> Any suggestions for what to try next?
>
> I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their 
> help and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like 
> .abc, and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, 
> although .abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and 
> flexibility are wonderful. Thanks again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ralph
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Re: Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I always first try a property setting without the \once keyword to see 
that it works.
If you do that in your example below, you will notice that your property 
setting
indeed works as it should. The only problem is that a setting done with 
\once ...
only applies to the next object, so if you insert it before the note 
before the breating
sign, it only applies to the note, where it of course doesn't have any 
effect.
Just move your \once \override to be directly before the \breathe and it 
should

work well.
I understand perfectly well why you placed your \once \override where 
you did,
since that's the correct solution when you want to move an articulation, 
a text script,
a slur or a dynamic indication, for example. The reason is that all 
these are connected
to a specific note and happen "simultaneously" with the note, whereas 
the breathe sign
is handled as a separate object, just like clefs or time signatures or 
..., that happen

"between" the notes.
Tricky indeed!

  /Mats

Palmer, Ralph wrote:

Greetings -

Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 


I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two
notehead sizes in one chord.

Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,
and having no luck. Here's a snippet:

++ Begin Snippet +

\version "2.10.16"

\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}

Breathe = {
\key d \minor
\clef alto
\time 2/2


c'4 c' c' c' |
    \once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
b8[\breathe b]  < c' c >( d e fis gis e) |

}

\score {
\Breathe
}

+++ End Snippet 

I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and
Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible
combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried
using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using
\tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before
\breathe, also with no effect.

Any suggestions for what to try next?

I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help
and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc,
and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although
.abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are
wonderful. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Ralph
+
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Keene State College
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Moving breathe sign

2007-05-24 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings -

Just when I think I get the hang of it, bam. 

I'm running LilyPond 2.10.16 under Windows XP Pro SP2.

Thanks to Mats Bengtsson and Bertalan Fodor for their help with two
notehead sizes in one chord.

Now, in the same measure, actually, I'm trying to move a breathe sign,
and having no luck. Here's a snippet:

++ Begin Snippet +

\version "2.10.16"

\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}

Breathe = {
\key d \minor
\clef alto
\time 2/2


c'4 c' c' c' |
\once \override BreathingSign #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 5.0)
b8[\breathe b]  < c' c >( d e fis gis e) |

}

\score {
\Breathe
}

+++ End Snippet 

I've tried BreathingSign, Score.BreathingSign, Voice.BreathingSign, and
Staff.BreathingSign with #'extra-offset and #'padding in each possible
combination, and none of them makes any visible effect. I've also tried
using \override without \once, to no effect. I've also tried using
\tweak with#'extra-offset and with #'padding immediately before
\breathe, also with no effect.

Any suggestions for what to try next?

I'm grateful to everyone from the LilyPond community for all their help
and support and for the excellent product. I used to really like .abc,
and recently looked at some of my output, and realized that, although
.abc's simplicity is a big pro, LilyPond's output and flexibility are
wonderful. Thanks again.

Cheers,

Ralph
+
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Keene State College
Keene, NH 03435-2502
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Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing

2006-10-27 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 17:24 schrieben Sie:
> It turns out that you irregular spacing has nothing to do with the
> breathe signs.
> The problem was that your setting of
> \override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0)
> in \ScoreSettings only applied to the first line of lyrics (I was
> actually a bit surprised that it applied to any of the Lyrics contexts at
> all). 

Ah, thanks! 

> Please read in the manual on how to do settings that apply to all Lyrics
> contexts
> in a score, for example. Then, you will rather come up with something like
> \layout {
> \context {
> \Score
> skipBars = ##t
> }
>   \context {
> \Lyrics
> \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0)
>   }
> }
> as a replacement for your current \ScoreSettings. 

Thanks, that worked like a charm!

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing

2006-10-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It turns out that you irregular spacing has nothing to do with the 
breathe signs.

The problem was that your setting of
\override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0)
in \ScoreSettings only applied to the first line of lyrics (I was 
actually a bit

surprised that it applied to any of the Lyrics contexts at all).
Please read in the manual on how to do settings that apply to all Lyrics 
contexts

in a score, for example. Then, you will rather come up with something like
\layout {
   \context {
   \Score
   skipBars = ##t
   }
 \context {
   \Lyrics
   \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0)
 }
}
as a replacement for your current \ScoreSettings. Then, you will see 
that the only
thing that affects the vertical distance between the lyric lines, is the 
comma signs

that extend slightly below the base line of the font.

   /Mats

Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 09:47 schrieben Sie:
  

I can't figure out exactly what you mean. Please post a small but complete
(i.e. runnable) example. 



Okay, .ly and .pdf file attached. I want all lyrics line to have the same 
small line spacing as the first two stanzas have.


Cheers,
Reinhold

  

Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:


Hi,
A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing
into the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html

However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because
that solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it
seems that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply
ignored).

Is there any solution to this?

Thanks a lot,
Reinhold

PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane
webinterface does not allow you to attach files...
  


  



\version "2.7.40"

\header { 
	title = "Breathe sign in lyrics"

composer = "Notice the different line spacing in the lyrics!"
}

ScoreSettings = {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\override Lyrics.VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0 . 0)
}

music = \relative c' { f  f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f f | f f f 
f | }



VerseI = \lyricmode {   
	blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 
}


VerseII = \lyricmode {  
	blah blah blah blah blah \markup{ ach, \raise #1.0 \musicglyph #"scripts.rcomma" }  blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 
}


\score {
\context ChoirStaff <<
\ScoreSettings
\context Staff = women <<
\context Voice = sopranos { \voiceOne << \music >> }
>>
\context Lyrics = sopranosI \lyricsto sopranos \VerseI
\context Lyrics = sopranosII \lyricsto sopranos \VerseII
\context Lyrics = sopranosIII \lyricsto sopranos \VerseI
\context Lyrics = sopranosIV \lyricsto sopranos \VerseII

\context Staff = men <<
\context Voice = tenors { \voiceOne << \music >> }
>>
>>

}


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Re: Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing

2006-10-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I can't figure out exactly what you mean. Please post a small but complete
(i.e. runnable) example. Just paste it into the main text of the email.
If gmane complains about "top posting", see
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2006-05/msg00038.html

  /Mats

Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:

Hi,
A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing into 
the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html

However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because that 
solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it seems 
that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply ignored). 


Is there any solution to this?

Thanks a lot,
Reinhold

PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane 
webinterface does not allow you to attach files...
  


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Breathe sign in lyrics messes up line spacing

2006-10-25 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Hi,
A while ago, I posted to this list about how to include a breathing sing into 
the lyrics (not into the staff), and Mats gave me the solution:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00532.html

However, I'm still fighting with the issue (in lilypond 2.8.7), because that 
solution causes a rather large margin below that one lyrics line (it seems 
that for the calculation of line spacing the \raise is simply ignored). 

Is there any solution to this?

Thanks a lot,
Reinhold

PS: Sorry that I can't attach the test file to this posting, as the gmane 
webinterface does not allow you to attach files...
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Re: \breathe in lily 2.9.14

2006-08-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson

This bug is fixed in the latest source code, so you can look forward to
version 2.9.15.

As always, I recommend the latest stable version, 2.8.6, for any serious
work. If you want to use the development version, please send bug
reports to bug-lilypond (but first check if the bug already has been
reported, as in this case).

  /Mats

Simon Dahlbacka wrote:


Running the following file through lily 2.9.14  on winxp

% breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly>
\version "2.9.14"

\relative c' { c c \breathe c c }
% end breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly>

Produces the following output:
D:\Scores\>lilypond --png breathe.ly <http://breathe.ly>
GNU LilyPond 2.9.14
Processing `breathe.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
warning: Unknown event class breathing-sign-event[1]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks... [2]
Drawing systems...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `breathe.ps'...
Converting to PNG...


and the resulting png (or pdf) does not show any signs of a breathing 
sign, am I missing something obvious?


/Simon





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\breathe in lily 2.9.14

2006-08-18 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
Running the following file through lily 2.9.14  on winxp % breathe.ly\version "2.9.14"\relative c' { c c \breathe c c }% end breathe.ly
Produces the following output:D:\Scores\>lilypond --png breathe.lyGNU LilyPond 2.9.14Processing `breathe.ly'Parsing...Interpreting music...warning: Unknown event class breathing-sign-event[1]
Preprocessing graphical objects...Calculating line breaks... [2]Drawing systems...Calculating page breaks...Layout output to `breathe.ps'...Converting to PNG...and the resulting png (or pdf) does not show any signs of a breathing sign, am I missing something obvious?
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Re: \breathe

2004-06-17 Thread Ferenc Wagner
LEGRAND Jean-Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there any way to move up or down the \breathe sign ?

Look up Changing defaults -> Tuning output -> Common Tweaks
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\breathe

2004-06-17 Thread LEGRAND Jean-Marc
Hi again !

Is there any way to move up or down the \breathe sign ?

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Re: Optional \breathe

2004-03-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As indicated in the manual, you can change the breathe sign by
redefining the text property. Then, you can read the section on
text markup to find out an apropriate value. For example, you may
want to try this
\property Score.BreathingSign \override #'text = \markup{ \musicglyph 
#"accidentals-leftparen" \musicglyph #"scripts-rcomma" \musicglyph 
#"accidentals-rightparen" }

(I have only tried it with a recent development version but changed
the syntax to correspond to version 2.0.x.)
   /Mats

Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
Greetings.

In typesetting some flute music for beginners (myself), optional breathe
marks exist in my source and I would like to include them in my LilyPond
document. They are indicated by (')... instead of the normal '.
Can this be done? If so, how?

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Optional breathe mark?

2004-03-09 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
Greetings.

In beginner flute music, I need to typeset some optional breathe marks. (')
instead of '. Can this be done? How? I know how to format with the \breathe
but am not certian about wrapping it in quotes

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Optional \breathe

2004-03-07 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
Greetings.

In typesetting some flute music for beginners (myself), optional breathe
marks exist in my source and I would like to include them in my LilyPond
document. They are indicated by (')... instead of the normal '.

Can this be done? If so, how?

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line break at breathe mark (was: Re: no flags replace broken beam)

2003-02-22 Thread Thomas Willhalm
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Thomas Willhalm in gnu.lilypond.bugs wrote:
>> 
>> melodie = \notes \relative c'' {
>>  \partial 2 r8 g g e | g4 g e8()c4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe  \bar "empty"
>> \break
>>  g g e | f4 f d8()b4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe \bar "empty" \break
>>  g g e | g4 g e8()c4. | r8 g' g a g \breathe \bar "empty" \break
>>  g g e | g g g g f d4. | c4 r
>>  \bar "|."
>> }
>> \score {
>>   \context Staff \melodie
>>   \paper { }
>> }
>
> I dare say that your example is fairly non-standard.

I have seen it several times that lines are broken at breathe mark.
In particular, the copy of the attached song was set in this way.
(See
http://www.inf.uni-konstanz.de/~willhalm/misc/WennDasBrotDasWirTeilen.pdf
if you don't want to run lilypond yourself.)

I'm seeking for your advice, whether I should set it in the same way.
In my opinion, it's convenient for singing, but if others are irritated
and find it disturbing, I will change it.

Thanks for your advice
Thomas\version "1.6.7"
\paper{ papersize = "a4" }
\include "paper26.ly"
\include "german-chords-init.ly"
Begleitung = \chords { 
 \property Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic guitar (nylon)"
 \skip 4 
 d2 b:min e:min a fis:min e:7 a4 e a 
}
BegleitungEnde = \chords { 
 \property Staff.midiInstrument = "acoustic guitar (nylon)"
 a4:7 b2:min fis:min e:min a d b:min g:6 a b:min fis:min e:min a b:min e:min
 f a:7 d4 b:min g:6 a d2.
 \bar "|."
}
Melodie = \notes \transpose d \relative c'' {
 \property Staff.midiInstrument = "flute"
 \property Staff.transposing = #+12
 \time 4/4 \key c \major \partial 4
  e8^"Strophe" f | g4 g8 e c4 d8 e | f4 e d \breathe\bar "empty"\break
  e8 f | g4 g8 g a4 b8 c | b4 a g \breathe\bar "empty"\break
}
MelodieEnde = \notes \transpose d \relative c''' {
  a8^"Refrain" b | c4 c8 c b4 g8 g | a4 a g \breathe\bar "empty"\break
  c,8 d | e4 e8 e e4 d8 c | d2.   \breathe\bar "empty"\break
  a'8 b | c4 c8 c b4 g8 g | a4 a g\breathe\bar "empty"\break
  c,8 d | e4 [e8 e] [f8 e] f4 | g2.\breathe\bar "empty"
  c,8 d | e4 [e8 e] [f8 e] d4 | c2.
}

textstrophea = \lyrics {
\property LyricsVoice . stanza = "1."  

 Wenn das Brot, das wir tei -- len, als Ro -- se blüht
 und das Wort, das wir spre -- chen, als Lied er -- klingt,
}
textstropheb= \lyrics {
\property LyricsVoice . stanza = "2."  
 Wenn das Leid je -- des Ar -- men uns Chris -- tus zeigt
 und die Not, die wir lin -- dern, zur Freu -- de wird,
}
textstrophec= \lyrics {
 \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "3."  
 Wenn die Hand, die wir hal -- ten, uns sel -- ber hält
 und das Kleid, das wir schen -- ken, auch uns be -- deckt,
}
textstrophed= \lyrics {
 \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "4."  
 Wenn der Trost, den wir ge -- ben, uns wei -- ter trägt
 und der Schmerz, den wir tei -- len, zur Hoff -- nung wird,
}
textstrophee= \lyrics {
 \property LyricsVoice . stanza = "5."  
 Wenn das Leid, das wir tra -- gen, den Weg uns weist,
 und der Tod, den wir ster -- ben, vom Le -- ben singt,
}
textrefrain = \lyrics {
 dann hat Gott un -- ter uns schon sein Haus ge -- baut,
 dann wohnt er schon in un -- se -- rer Welt.
 Ja, dann schau -- en wir heut' schon sein An -- ge -- sicht
 in der Lie -- be, die al -- les um -- fängt,
 in der Lie -- be, die al -- les um -- fängt.
}
\score {
 \notes {
   \simultaneous {
 \context ChordNames \Begleitung
 \addlyrics
 \context Staff \Melodie
 \context Lyrics <
 \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-1" { \textstrophea }  
 \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-2" { \textstropheb }  
 \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-3" { \textstrophec }  
 \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-4" { \textstrophed }  
 \context LyricsVoice = "strophe-5" { \textstrophee }  
  >
   }
   \simultaneous {
 \context ChordNames \BegleitungEnde
 \addlyrics
 \context Staff \MelodieEnde
 \context Lyrics \textrefrain
   }
  }
  \paper { linewidth = 6.375 \in indent = 0.0 
 \translator {\ChordNamesContext chordChanges = ##t } 
 \translator{ \ScoreContext
 StanzaNumber \override #'break-align-symbol =  #'begin-of-note }
  }
}
\score {
 \notes { 
   \simultaneous {
 \context Staff = "begleitung" { \Begleitung \BegleitungEnde }
 \context Staff = "melodie" { \Melodie\MelodieEnde }
   }
  }
  \midi  { \tempo 4 = 130 }
}
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