Re: No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-28 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG  writes:

>> Well, to summarize:
>> 
>> In less than an hour after posting a question / potential bug
>> report, there is
>> 
>> - a quick & easy solution provided by an experienced fellow user,
>> 
>> - an explanation and some perspective from the main developer
>>   working on that part of the code.
>> 
>> Unbeatable.  And on top of this, the excellent quality that LilyPond
>> produces (which is often remarked upon by students & colleagues that
>> see my worksheets containing lots of Lilypond music examples).  It's
>> simply wonderful to work with this program - thanks so much!
>
> Hear, hear!  And yes, great kudos to all the helpful guys on this
> list!

Well, the equivalent of "sure, I agree this sucks" from the "highest
level" is not exactly the most brilliant endorsement, even if it may be
personally satisfying.  Which reminds me of the old joke "I'll believe
that Microsoft is able to deliver products that don't suck when they
start selling vacuum cleaners".

At any rate, nobody will claim in good conscience that LilyPond does not
have its dirty corners.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG


> Well, to summarize:
> 
> In less than an hour after posting a question / potential bug
> report, there is
> 
> - a quick & easy solution provided by an experienced fellow user,
> 
> - an explanation and some perspective from the main developer
>   working on that part of the code.
> 
> Unbeatable.  And on top of this, the excellent quality that LilyPond
> produces (which is often remarked upon by students & colleagues that
> see my worksheets containing lots of Lilypond music examples).  It's
> simply wonderful to work with this program - thanks so much!

Hear, hear!  And yes, great kudos to all the helpful guys on this
list!


Werner

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Re: No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-27 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser




Some curly braces seem to help:


\new RhythmicStaff { \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ } }


Using \displayMusic shows that use of the variable versus the explicit
\relative produces a different S-expression, but I am not sure where
the fault lies.

I never managed to get the parser to group \addlyrics just with the
desired expressions.  Operator priorities for shift/reduce conflict
resolution are hard to get right, and this is the major case where I did
not manage even though there are several issues and patches trying to
fix it.


Well, to summarize:

In less than an hour after posting a question / potential bug report, 
there is


- a quick & easy solution provided by an experienced fellow user,

- an explanation and some perspective from the main developer working on 
that part of the code.


Unbeatable. And on top of this, the excellent quality that LilyPond 
produces (which is often remarked upon by students & colleagues that see 
my worksheets containing lots of Lilypond music examples). It's simply 
wonderful to work with this program - thanks so much!


Best
Lukas



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Re: No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Aaron Hill  writes:

> On 2018-11-27 1:22 pm, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
>
>> \version "2.19.80"
>>
>> Melodie = \relative g' {
>>     g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r
>> }
>>
>> \new Staff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }
>>
>> \new RhythmicStaff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }
>>
>> \new Staff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r }  \addlyrics { Once
>> there was a way __ }
>>
>> \new RhythmicStaff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r } \addlyrics {
>> Once there was a way __ }
>>
>> As can be seen, the second example does not contain the Lyric
>> extender. Why is this so, and how can I get it back? (True for 2.19.80
>> as well as not-so-current master from a few weeks/months ago.)
>
> Some curly braces seem to help:
>
> 
> \new RhythmicStaff { \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ } }
> 
>
> Using \displayMusic shows that use of the variable versus the explicit
> \relative produces a different S-expression, but I am not sure where
> the fault lies.

I never managed to get the parser to group \addlyrics just with the
desired expressions.  Operator priorities for shift/reduce conflict
resolution are hard to get right, and this is the major case where I did
not manage even though there are several issues and patches trying to
fix it.

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Re: No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-27 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2018-11-27 1:22 pm, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:

Dear list,

consider:

\version "2.19.80"

Melodie = \relative g' {
    g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r
}

\new Staff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }

\new RhythmicStaff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }

\new Staff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r }  \addlyrics { Once
there was a way __ }

\new RhythmicStaff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r } \addlyrics {
Once there was a way __ }

As can be seen, the second example does not contain the Lyric
extender. Why is this so, and how can I get it back? (True for 2.19.80
as well as not-so-current master from a few weeks/months ago.)


Some curly braces seem to help:


\new RhythmicStaff { \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ } }


Using \displayMusic shows that use of the variable versus the explicit 
\relative produces a different S-expression, but I am not sure where the 
fault lies.


-- Aaron Hill

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No lyric extenders for RhythmicStaff if music comes from a variable

2018-11-27 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser

Dear list,

consider:

\version "2.19.80"

Melodie = \relative g' {
    g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r
}

\new Staff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }

\new RhythmicStaff \Melodie \addlyrics { Once there was a way __ }

\new Staff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r }  \addlyrics { Once 
there was a way __ }


\new RhythmicStaff \relative g' { g8 16 16 16 8.~  4 r } \addlyrics { 
Once there was a way __ }


As can be seen, the second example does not contain the Lyric extender. 
Why is this so, and how can I get it back? (True for 2.19.80 as well as 
not-so-current master from a few weeks/months ago.)


Best
Lukas

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