Re: status of mutopia project
I feel this is quite the point. Mutopia is a very nice project, no doubt. But a repository only with ly-files would be also very helpful, in conjonction (does it exist?) with a lily-fonction to translate notes names from one language t another (I got used to netherland notes names, and i dislike now to work in a ly file with french names) :-O Greetings, Francois 2011/4/8, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com: Why not to setup a git repository with the ly files? It would be also useful for test new releases of Lilypond? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
Unfortunately, there is an obvious error in Bach Goldberg Aria bar 18 that I have seen propagated to several other versions that have used this as source. Not good. -steve 2011/4/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com 2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! Â Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else.. Â What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ?? Â I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and the subscription request(s) bounced!! Â This has been going on for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact at all?? Â Â Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. Â Latest updates are dec 2010 (four posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old. Â I'd love that Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of source lilypond files in the same site. Â Sceaux and others just link to their own sites for sources. At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available... Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free because that viewer is prorietary software). Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux... cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
Out of topic??? Tis lilypond and the thread is mutopia, what that??? 2011/4/8, st...@linuxsuite.org st...@linuxsuite.org: Unfortunately, there is an obvious error in Bach Goldberg Aria bar 18 that I have seen propagated to several other versions that have used this as source. Not good. -steve 2011/4/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com 2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else.. What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ?? I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and the subscription request(s) bounced!! This has been going on for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact at all?? Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. Latest updates are dec 2010 (four posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old. I'd love that Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of source lilypond files in the same site. Sceaux and others just link to their own sites for sources. At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available... Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free because that viewer is prorietary software). Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux... cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
2011/4/9 Hajo Dezelski dl1...@googlemail.com: - The depositary should be locate on one site. - Contributors should be responsible for their files - Contributers should identify themselves by real names - Contributers should be able with the help of software to produce from their ly-file a uniform presentation of the music (comparable to Mutopia) - Contributors should be able to make their own corrections to their submitted file. - Mutopia files should be converted and write protected - Software: Could be a Wiki (with login) or Google code / project (like solfege resources or . Frescobaldi) or ... (but please not git) I think all these points are all good. The idea of a maintainer for each score is very nice, so the work is distributed and each has its own responsibility. If its possible to download all the material (it is?) would be very simple to set up a mercurial repository at google code or bitbucket, if you do not like git. Actually bitbucket has unlimited size, so we can even add the pdf files there. best, bernardo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
(sorry for breaking the thread. is there an easy way to follow up to a message in the digest?) Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive? http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to include source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with several contributions per day. The maintainer of this archive is getting on in age and has health concerns, so there is a discussion going on about the future of the site. Maybe disapointed mutopia enthousiasts can play a role here? Victor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
I think theres place enough for icking, mutopia and imslp. The nice with mutopia is that you get 100% the source for the music you search, so you can rearrange pages turns and much more. Love it, Francois 2011/4/9, Victor Eijkhout vic...@eijkhout.net: (sorry for breaking the thread. is there an easy way to follow up to a message in the digest?) Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive? http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to include source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with several contributions per day. The maintainer of this archive is getting on in age and has health concerns, so there is a discussion going on about the future of the site. Maybe disapointed mutopia enthousiasts can play a role here? Victor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
Hi. [...] I hope everyone knows about the Werner Icking Music Archive? http://icking-music-archive.org/index.php Public domain, pdf files, and the maintainer encourages contributors to include source (and sound or at least midi) files. Most of my music http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Eijkhout.php has lilypond (or occasionally sibelius) source files. This site is very much alive, with several contributions per day. I'd prefer a Lilypond-only archive, with Creative Commons licenses and sources _always_ available. Best regards, Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Music Teacher alicuota...@gmail.com wrote: I think theres place enough for icking, mutopia and imslp. The nice with mutopia is that you get 100% the source for the music you search, so you can rearrange pages turns and much more. Love it, Of course. There are other repositories as well: http://news.lilynet.net/spip.php?article109lang=en#what_s_up_with_lilypond_scores One of the reason why I opened the lilynet.net website was to have a library of LilyPond scores (that, unlike Mutopia, would be primarily available as source code, and would be kept up-to-date with LilyPond latest development releases as much as possible). I haven't gotten around to build the necessary components yet, but it's still on the table. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Gilles Sadowski gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote: I'd prefer a Lilypond-only archive, with Creative Commons licenses and sources _always_ available. Licensing issues are a bit more complex, since what we'd ideally need is a license that covers *both* the source code (think GPL, for example) and the score as a compiled, ready-to-play pdf (CC do a great job at that, but so does Free Art License for example). (I've been working on such a license for a few years now, so that's also something I'd like to make happen eventually :-) Cheers, Valentin. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
On 10/04/11 01:29, Bernardo Barros wrote: If its possible to download all the material (it is?) would be very simple to set up a mercurial repository at google code or bitbucket, if you do not like git. I while ago I downloaded the complete Mutopia contents to my local hard drive from the ftp mirror at ibiblio.org. However, there's something wrong with that ftp server at the moment - I can logon as anonymous, but can't get any directories to display. I can cwd to /pub/multimedia/mutopia, which is where the scores should/used to be, but nothing underneath there is visible. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else.. What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ?? I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and the subscription request(s) bounced!! This has been going on for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact at all?? Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. Latest updates are dec 2010 (four posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old. I'd love that Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of source lilypond files in the same site. Sceaux and others just link to their own sites for sources. Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free because that viewer is prorietary software). -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
2011/4/8 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com 2011/4/8 steve st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else.. What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ?? I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and the subscription request(s) bounced!! This has been going on for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact at all?? Is this project dead? Sadly yes it is, in practice. Latest updates are dec 2010 (four posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old. I'd love that Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of source lilypond files in the same site. Sceaux and others just link to their own sites for sources. At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available... Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free because that viewer is prorietary software). Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux... cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
2011/4/8 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: . Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux... Actually it can run on wine (I`m not saying I prefer it!!) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
steve steve at linuxsuite.org writes: What is the status of the mutopiaproject ?? It needs people to take over from the one person who has done most of the work for the past decade. You can see the recent history at the list archive http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss where Chris Sawer describes the situation. Finding new volunteers always takes a lot of time. There is a backlog of submissions, but I imagine that having some very nice new scores in the backlog (with the sources and their relevant dates and laid out for easy checking of public domain status) would encourage any tentative volunteers who have contacted Chris to learn what is involved. A recent stable LilyPond version would also help. I converted the scores I was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine, but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have pretty much quit using LilyPond. (I should just go back to the 2.12 versions.) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
On 08/04/2011 19:02, Keith OHara wrote: stevesteveat linuxsuite.org writes: What is the status of the mutopiaproject ?? As one of the few official mirrors (that is not updating properly, and now I understand why Chris takes so much time to answer) am would be happy to help on maintaining mutopiaproject. It needs people to take over from the one person who has done most of the work for the past decade. You can see the recent history at the list archive http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss where Chris Sawer describes the situation. Finding new volunteers always takes a lot of time. There is a backlog of submissions, but I imagine that having some very nice new scores in the backlog (with the sources and their relevant dates and laid out for easy checking of public domain status) would encourage any tentative volunteers who have contacted Chris to learn what is involved. A recent stable LilyPond version would also help. I converted the scores I was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine, but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have pretty much quit using LilyPond. (I should just go back to the 2.12 versions.) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Alberto Simoes CCTC-UM / CEHUM ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: status of mutopia project
Why not to setup a git repository with the ly files? It would be also useful for test new releases of Lilypond? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
