Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
2007/7/27, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Final (?) note/tip on this: if anyone else finds Lilypond's default beginning-of-measure spacing too small in general (i.e., even without modifiers like accidentals and arpeggios), you can add a little more space using: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed- space . 1.8) Great! Can you add it to the LSR please? This way, it'll be much easier to find for everyone... Thanks V.Villenave ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Han-Wen (et al.): Thanks for 2.11.28! Joe: Thanks for the spacing fixes, which have appeared in 2.11.28 -- things look *so* much better now (in particular, I've been testing initial accidentals and arpeggios), and I've been able to extract my (incredibly numerous) tweaks! Final (?) note/tip on this: if anyone else finds Lilypond's default beginning-of-measure spacing too small in general (i.e., even without modifiers like accidentals and arpeggios), you can add a little more space using: \override BarLine #'space-alist #'next-note = #'(semi-fixed- space . 1.8) Of course, adjust the numeric value as you see fit. Hope this helps! Kieren. p.s. On a side-note, can anyone explain to me the difference between first-note and next-note in the BarLine space-alist? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On 7/27/07, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kieren MacMillan wrote: p.s. On a side-note, can anyone explain to me the difference between first-note and next-note in the BarLine space-alist? See the documentation for the break-aligned-interface in the program reference. Just thinking out loud here ... It's only been in the last couple of months that I've learned how to use the space-alist attribute of some of the preferatory grobs (and also BarLine). And it occurs to me that nowhere in the user manual do we really discuss this (quite useful) attribute? Is that, in fact, the case? If so, maybe a good Samaritan act for somebody (including possibly me when I get some time in the fall) would be to add a subsection to section 11.6 Horizontal spacing called something like 11.6.6 Setting preferatory spacing. Chapter 11 on spacing has truly come along tremendously in 2.11 and this might be a nice extension to that work. Examples of each of the attributes in the break-alignable-interface, break-aligned-interface and break-alignment-interface would go a long way to exhibiting full control over stacking and space what shows up at the beginnings of lines and measures. (Somebody please correct me, however, if we do discuss the space-alist sufficiently somewhere in the docs that I might have missed.) Trevor. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On Monday 18 June 2007 19:26, Joe Neeman wrote: On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in the jneeman branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate some feedback on the spacing changes. To follow this up, I just merged my spacing stuff into the main branch. That means that the new code will be present in version 2.11.28. Once it is released, it would be a big help if people could test the spacing stuff and find bugs. Of course, those of you following git can do so straight away. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
2007/7/10, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To follow this up, I just merged my spacing stuff into the main branch. That means that the new code will be present in version 2.11.28. Once it is released, it would be a big help if people could test the spacing stuff and find bugs. Of course, those of you following git can do so straight away. I'll try to build a new release this week. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in the jneeman branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate some feedback on the spacing changes. I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided by Kieren elsewhere in this thread. Joe attachment: test2.preview.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Joe Neeman wrote: I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided by Kieren elsewhere in this thread. Joe test2.preview.png Joe would you mind to post your code for this fix? Looks better indeed. thanks adam ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On Monday 18 June 2007 20:12, Adam Good wrote: On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Joe Neeman wrote: I'll attach a PNG of the new output on an example that was provided by Kieren elsewhere in this thread. Joe test2.preview.png Joe would you mind to post your code for this fix? Looks better indeed. The code is available in the jneeman branch of the public lilypond git repository. There are compiling instructions available on http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.html Assuming you have the dependencies installed, you can get the code with $ git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git $ cd lilypond $ git checkout jneeman $ ./autogen.sh $ ./configure $ make all ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Joe Neeman escreveu: On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in the jneeman branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate some feedback on the spacing changes. Awesome that you've been able to get your fingers dirty in the spacing engine. You've breached into one of the last domains of the Han-Wen only code. Probably only the grace-timing code in the iterators is left as the last outhold of sole Han-Wenness in Lily. I'm glad to see that many kludges are disappearing, but a little worried that there might be subtle spacing corrections that disappear because of this. Do pay close attention to the regtest, especially all the spacing-*.ly files. One of the problems of working on the spacing is that it tends to affect all tests, making it more difficult to see the effect of a fix. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Awesome that you've been able to get your fingers dirty in the spacing engine. Yeah. Go on, Joe! You've breached into one of the last domains of the Han-Wen only code. Probably only the grace-timing code in the iterators is left as the last outhold of sole Han-Wenness in Lily. BTW, when you will be able again to give some time to your small, helpless musical baby? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Hi, Graham:
Could you make up a minimal example (perhaps with some of the stuff
below)
Will do.
Anything in particular other than this?
Here are three screenshots from my COA reed part (sorry: no time to
make minimal examples right now, so I can't be sure how many of these
are easily reproducible, or are artifacts of my particular score and
engraving code).
1. Collisions: between \markup (attached to initial rest), slur, and
\mark:
2. Collision: dynamic indication in one (single-staff) system with
slur, articulation, and \mark in the following system:
3. Collisions: \repeat tremolo:
Minimal example for #3:
\version 2.11.12
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
\score
{
{ \time 6/4 \repeat tremolo 24 { b'32 d'' } | }
}
Cheers,
Kieren.
p.s. I'd be using something beyond 2.11.12, but every version I've
tried has fontconfig problems, which none of the tips on the list(s)
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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On 4/24/07, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p.s. I'd be using something beyond 2.11.12, but every version I've tried has fontconfig problems, which none of the tips on the list(s) have solved for me... =\ Hi Kieren, You're on a Mac under OS X, yes? I had fontconfig drama right around .18 or so (though it may have been earlier) and what fixed it on my OS X box was deleting ~/.fontconfig. (The tip came from one of James's mail on 27 February, so you've probably already tried this. But just in case.) -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 à 04:17 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi, Mats -- This is a typical situation where you want to use \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f Thanks for that tip -- I'm finally getting it with regard to average-spacing-wishes. Great! Once your show opens, could you have a look at the 2.11 docs and see whether #'average-spacing-wishes is sufficiently well documented? (err, wait until 2.11.23 is out; I there's been some changes to the Spacing chapter recently) If you don't want to wait for .23, you can have a look at http://john.mandereau.free.fr/lilypond-doc/Documentation/ where I regularly (at least once a week) upload the documentation built from Git master branch (actually it's lilypond/translation, but the two branches are often merged, and are identical right now). I primilarly do this for translators, but it may also be useful to docs helpers. HTH, John ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Hi, Mats --
This is a typical situation where you want to use
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f
Thanks for that tip -- I'm finally getting it with regard to
average-spacing-wishes.
However, that doesn't fix the fact that Lilypond's spacing is
generally too close at the beginning of measures.
For example, here's a snippet which has no key signature, but
exhibits serious spacing problems in every bar, regardless of whether
a time or key signature is present:
\version 2.11.11
\include english.ly
\paper
{
ragged-right = ##t
}
theMusic = \relative
{
\time 4/4
c e g bf df1\arpeggio
c e g bf df2.\arpeggio c e g4\arpeggio
af'8. af16 a4 a2
\time 3/8 aff8. af16 a8
}
\score
{
\theMusic
}
Until about 2.9, I felt like each version of LIlypond required
progressively less tweaking on my part to produce good-looking scores.
Since 2.9, it seems like it's required *more* work on my part. =(
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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Hello, all -- I hope you have seen the earlier followups in this email thread [...] Fair enough, but it's a *lot* more work in recent versions to have a acceptable-looking score (with respect to initial measure spacing) than it was in previous versions. For example, I've included a screenshot of untweaked Lilypond output for an instrumental part I cranked out yesterday -- you'll see that the initial spacing is totally unacceptable without a good deal of tweaking (the rests are almost completely swallowed by the key signature); in other parts of the score, it is nearly impossible to distinguish the barline from the left-hand side of the leading flat; etc. Cheers, Kieren. p.s. Once the show opens (this weekend), and I have more time, I'll submit specific bug reports... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
In this specific example, it seems that you have an extremely wide key signature in one stave and none at all in the other stave. This is a typical situation where you want to use \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f since by default, LilyPond takes an average value of the ideal spacing for each separate stave (see also http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-12/msg00043.html, which shows that this specific problem has been present at least since version 2.6). /Mats Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hello, all -- I hope you have seen the earlier followups in this email thread [...] Fair enough, but it's a *lot* more work in recent versions to have a acceptable-looking score (with respect to initial measure spacing) than it was in previous versions. For example, I've included a screenshot of untweaked Lilypond output for an instrumental part I cranked out yesterday -- you'll see that the initial spacing is totally unacceptable without a good deal of tweaking (the rests are almost completely swallowed by the key signature); in other parts of the score, it is nearly impossible to distinguish the barline from the left-hand side of the leading flat; etc. Cheers, Kieren. p.s. Once the show opens (this weekend), and I have more time, I'll submit specific bug reports... -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
I hope you have seen the earlier followups in this email thread, for example http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-04/msg00161.html which shows a setting that gives a layout more close to that in 2.10. /Mats jba wrote: This has also frustrated me, and none of the solutions recommended is ideal. What bothers me is that it looks great in 2.10 (no flats touch barlines), but I now depend on features in 2.11. It happens with sharps but is especially apparent in flats, which, in the most recent versions, nearly touch the barline if they immediately follow one. I'll submit a lilypond file if the issue is not reproducible, but it's strange that 2.11 passes this test: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/regression/lily-438f5f0b8d.ly Other than this trivial problem, I'm really starting to like lilypond. Thanks guys! Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). Is there a single setting I can adjust to globally increase the space at the beginning of measures? I tried BarLine right-padding and space-after type options, but they all left unwanted space after the last barline of a given system... There's also a nice hint on the list which assists with the attachments, but I'd prefer a global option. Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
This has also frustrated me, and none of the solutions recommended is ideal. What bothers me is that it looks great in 2.10 (no flats touch barlines), but I now depend on features in 2.11. It happens with sharps but is especially apparent in flats, which, in the most recent versions, nearly touch the barline if they immediately follow one. I'll submit a lilypond file if the issue is not reproducible, but it's strange that 2.11 passes this test: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/regression/lily-438f5f0b8d.ly Other than this trivial problem, I'm really starting to like lilypond. Thanks guys! Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). Is there a single setting I can adjust to globally increase the space at the beginning of measures? I tried BarLine right-padding and space-after type options, but they all left unwanted space after the last barline of a given system... There's also a nice hint on the list which assists with the attachments, but I'd prefer a global option. Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/beginning-of-measure-padding-value--tf3546661.html#a10025146 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Since you want to change the spacing after the time signature, you should
modify the space-alist property for the TimeSignature:
\override TimeSignature #'space-alist = #'(
(first-note . (fixed-space . 12.0)) ; Default = 2.0
(right-edge . (extra-space . 0.5))
(staff-bar . (minimum-space . 2.0)))
/Mats
Trevor Bača wrote:
Hi Kieren, hi Mats,
As long as we're somewhat on the topic, how do we get more space
before the first note of each *line* (as opposed to each measure)?
Here's an example:
%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.11.20
\new Score \with {
\override BarLine #'space-alist = #'(
(time-signature extra-space . 0.75)
(custos minimum-space . 2.0)
(clef minimum-space . 1.0)
(key-signature extra-space . 1.0)
(key-cancellation extra-space . 1.0)
(first-note fixed-space . 10.3)
(next-note semi-fixed-space . 10)
(right-edge extra-space . 0.0))
} {
\new Staff {
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4
d'4 d'4 d'4 d'4
}
}
%%% END %%%
There's more space before the ds (because of next-note); but how can
we get more space before the cs?
(Side question: isn't there some way to set individual pairs in an
alist separately? I seem to remember there being a way to do that, but
can't find anything on a quick manual scan.)
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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On 4/11/07, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since you want to change the spacing after the time signature, you should
modify the space-alist property for the TimeSignature:
\override TimeSignature #'space-alist = #'(
(first-note . (fixed-space . 12.0)) ; Default = 2.0
(right-edge . (extra-space . 0.5))
(staff-bar . (minimum-space . 2.0)))
Ah, good. This is what I was looking for.
Reference example of moving over first note on the line (when there's
a time signature):
%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.11.20
\new Score \with {
\override TimeSignature #'space-alist = #'(
(first-note fixed-space . 10.0)
(right-edge extra-space . 0.5)
(staff-bar minimum-space . 2.0))
} {
\new Staff {
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4
d'4 d'4 d'4 d'4
}
}
%%% END %%%
Incidentally, if you remove Time_signature_engraver, the TimeSignature
#'space-alist does nothing:
%%% BEGIN %%%
version 2.11.20
\new Score \with {
% this override does nothing ...
\override TimeSignature #'space-alist = #'(
(first-note fixed-space . 10.0)
(right-edge extra-space . 0.5)
(staff-bar minimum-space . 2.0))
} {
\new Staff \with {
% ... because of this remove
\remove Time_signature_engraver
} {
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4
d'4 d'4 d'4 d'4
}
}
%%% END %%%
However, since the order of preferatory material is [clef - time
signature - key signature], and since there is now neither a key
signature nor time signature, it's still possible to scoot the first
note over using the first-note attribute in the Clef #'space-alist:
%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.11.20
\new Score \with {
\override Clef #'space-alist = #'(
(ambitus extra-space . 2.0)
(staff-bar extra-space . 0.7)
(key-cancellation minimum-space . 3.5)
(key-signature minimum-space . 3.5)
(time-signature minimum-space . 4.2)
(first-note minimum-fixed-space . 15.0) % this is the scooted value
(next-note extra-space . 0.5)
(right-edge extra-space . 0.5))
} {
\new Staff \with {
\remove Time_signature_engraver
} {
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4
d'4 d'4 d'4 d'4
}
}
%%% END %%%
So the relevant observation seems to be: there's no general way to say
move the first note of the lline over 12 units; instead, first
figure out what the last (rightmost) preferatory grob is
(immediately before the first note) and then change the first-note
attribute of the #'space-alist of that rightmost preferatory grob.
Thanks, Mats.
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Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, Could you be more specific. Are you talking about recent 2.11.x versions or ...? I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). After some search, I noticed that the fix to http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=10 included the following change: http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=4882689987e5f33926fff2cbee0dced4d5de9c7c#patch7 which might be what you have reacted on. To get the previous value of this specific setting, you can do \override Score.BarLine #'space-alist = #'( (time-signature . (extra-space . 0.75)) (custos . (minimum-space . 2.0)) (clef . (minimum-space . 1.0)) (key-signature . (extra-space . 1.0)) (key-cancellation . (extra-space . 1.0)) (first-note . (fixed-space . 1.3)) (next-note . (semi-fixed-space . 1.3)) % Changed from the new default 0.9 (right-edge . (extra-space . 0.0))) /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Kieren MacMillan wrote: In recent versions of Lilypond, Could you be more specific. Are you talking about recent 2.11.x versions or ...? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=242 was reported with .12, but it's still present in .21. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Hi, Graham! http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=242 was reported with .12, but it's still present in .21. On that page, HW talks about average-spacing-wishes. That sounds like something in which I (and other 'Ponderers) might be interested -- where is this setting documented? Thanks! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2005-12/msg00027.html with followups. /Mats Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi, Graham! http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=242 was reported with .12, but it's still present in .21. On that page, HW talks about average-spacing-wishes. That sounds like something in which I (and other 'Ponderers) might be interested -- where is this setting documented? Thanks! Kieren. -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
On 4/10/07, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
[ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ]
Hello, all!
In recent versions of Lilypond,
Could you be more specific. Are you talking about recent 2.11.x versions
or ...?
I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close
to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough
left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing
issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental,
arpeggio, or other note attachment).
After some search, I noticed that the fix to
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=10
included the following change:
http://git.sv.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=4882689987e5f33926fff2cbee0dced4d5de9c7c#patch7
which might be what you have reacted on.
To get the previous value of this specific setting, you can do
\override Score.BarLine #'space-alist = #'(
(time-signature . (extra-space . 0.75))
(custos . (minimum-space . 2.0))
(clef . (minimum-space . 1.0))
(key-signature . (extra-space . 1.0))
(key-cancellation . (extra-space . 1.0))
(first-note . (fixed-space . 1.3))
(next-note . (semi-fixed-space . 1.3)) % Changed
from the new default 0.9
(right-edge . (extra-space . 0.0)))
Hi Kieren, hi Mats,
As long as we're somewhat on the topic, how do we get more space
before the first note of each *line* (as opposed to each measure)?
Here's an example:
%%% BEGIN %%%
\version 2.11.20
\new Score \with {
\override BarLine #'space-alist = #'(
(time-signature extra-space . 0.75)
(custos minimum-space . 2.0)
(clef minimum-space . 1.0)
(key-signature extra-space . 1.0)
(key-cancellation extra-space . 1.0)
(first-note fixed-space . 10.3)
(next-note semi-fixed-space . 10)
(right-edge extra-space . 0.0))
} {
\new Staff {
c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4
d'4 d'4 d'4 d'4
}
}
%%% END %%%
There's more space before the ds (because of next-note); but how can
we get more space before the cs?
(Side question: isn't there some way to set individual pairs in an
alist separately? I seem to remember there being a way to do that, but
can't find anything on a quick manual scan.)
--
Trevor Bača
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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