Re: edition-engraver and \cadenzaOn

[Urs Liska]

Hi Jan-Peter,

Am 18.01.19 um 14:09 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:

Hi Urs,

happy new year!



thanks and dito!




This is on my agenda for quite some time. It will be possible and I have
an idea how to make it possible, but ...
I try to push the priority a little bit.



That would be great.
It's just one case right now, but it's in a project where the main input 
files are explicit part of the edition, so I'm really hard-pressed to 
move *all* tweaking to an include file.


Urs



Jan-Peter

Am 18.01.19 um 14:04 schrieb Urs Liska:

Hey all,

it seems that after \cadenzaOn all events have the same "zero" moment -
which makes sense, given that \cadenzOn completely suppresses all Timing
consideration.

So is there *any* chance to addres specific notes or slurs or whatever
that occur at some point in the cadenza?

Urs


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Re: edition-engraver and \cadenzaOn

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Hi Urs,

happy new year!

This is on my agenda for quite some time. It will be possible and I have
an idea how to make it possible, but ...
I try to push the priority a little bit.

Jan-Peter

Am 18.01.19 um 14:04 schrieb Urs Liska:
> Hey all,
> 
> it seems that after \cadenzaOn all events have the same "zero" moment -
> which makes sense, given that \cadenzOn completely suppresses all Timing
> consideration.
> 
> So is there *any* chance to addres specific notes or slurs or whatever
> that occur at some point in the cadenza?
> 
> Urs
> 
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edition-engraver and \cadenzaOn

[Urs Liska]

Hey all,

it seems that after \cadenzaOn all events have the same "zero" moment - 
which makes sense, given that \cadenzOn completely suppresses all Timing 
consideration.


So is there *any* chance to addres specific notes or slurs or whatever 
that occur at some point in the cadenza?


Urs


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Re: \cadenzaOn: clefs, key signatures on line breaks

[foxfanfare]

Robert Kubosz wrote
> Still I have question refering the breaks: is there any other method for
> line breaking (preferably auto-breaking)?

I don't understand your question. In your exemple, the breakings are working
because you have added the barlines in your \repeat command. Then LP
automatically did the breaks. If you want to hide the barlines, this could
also work:

\relative f' {
\clef treble
\key f \major
    \cadenzaOn

\repeat unfold 9 {
f4 f f f
\bar ""
}
\cadenzaOff
} 




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Re: \cadenzaOn: clefs, key signatures on line breaks

[Robert Kubosz]

Hi Thomas!

I added the post via web page with use of  markup. It looks like the mail
engine ignored it. Nevermind, I repost the example:

\version "2.19.81"

\relative f' {
\clef treble
\key f \major
\repeat unfold 10 f4
\break
\repeat unfold 10 g4
\cadenzaOff
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
\remove Bar_engraver
}
}

@foxfanfare, your snippet showed me, that I needlessly removed bar engraver
and it was the problem. Silly me. Thanks!
Still I have question refering the breaks: is there any other method for
line breaking (preferably auto-breaking)?
Say, I have a snippet:
\version "2.19.81"

\version "2.19.81"

\relative f' {
\clef treble
    \key f \major
\cadenzaOn

\repeat unfold 9 {
f4 f f f
\bar"|"
}
\cadenzaOff
}
And it will produce a line with tightly packed notes. Is there some hack,
that it will break automatically the line in cadenza mode, like it happens
in normal mode?





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Re: \cadenzaOn: clefs, key signatures on line breaks

[Thomas Morley]

2018-05-13 18:30 GMT+02:00 Robert Kubosz :
> The example below

Hello,

there is no code visible for me in your mail.
Neither here:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-05/msg00317.html

Please provide plain text mails or attach a file or a link to it.

Thanks,
  Harm

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Re: \cadenzaOn: clefs, key signatures on line breaks

[foxfanfare]

Robert Kubosz wrote
> Hello!
> I write a music piece with \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. The example below
> produces output without the clef and key signature after line break. Is
> there a possibility to display them? 
> Also, I have second question: can the lines auto break in cadenza mode?
> 
> With best regards
> Robert

Hi Robert. I don't understand your problem, cadenzaOn will produce the clefs
and time signature after line breaks by default! 
I think your exemple is missing the "cadenzaOn" btw.

\version "2.19.81"

\relative f' {
\cadenzaOn
\clef treble
\key f \major
\repeat unfold 20 f4
\bar "" \break
\repeat unfold 20 g4
\cadenzaOff
}

For the lines, they don't break automatically. You'll have to write an
invisible bar before making the break (see above).

All the best.



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\cadenzaOn: clefs, key signatures on line breaks

[Robert Kubosz]

Hello!
I write a music piece with \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. The example below
produces output without the clef and key signature after line break. Is
there a possibility to display them? 
Also, I have second question: can the lines auto break in cadenza mode?

With best regards
Robert





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Re:RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

[Sam Frybyte]

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:08:09 +0100
From: "Phil Holmes" <m...@philholmes.net>
To: "Sam Frybyte" <fryb...@gmail.com>,  "lilypond user group"
<lilypond-user@gnu.org>, <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn
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- Original Message -
From: "Sam Frybyte" <fryb...@gmail.com>
To: "lilypond user group" <lilypond-user@gnu.org>;
<b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn


> Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
> From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
> To: lilypond user group <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Cc: Sam Frybyte <fryb...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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> At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
>>If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
>>acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
>>in version. 2.18.2
>>with \cadenzaOn
>>\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
>> \stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
>> \times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4
>>
>>I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be
>>beamed.
>
>>>Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
>>>bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".
>
>>>If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
>>>readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
>>>but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
>>>I trust this helps.
>>>Brian Barker
>
> Mr. Barker
> It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
> happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
> you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
> marks nothing happens.
> Thank you

It does work:

{ \cadenzaOn \acciaccatura c'8 a8[
\acciaccatura b8 ges8]
\times 2/3 {f16[ des des]} des4
}


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Phil- (and Brian) the quotes that were included in the first message
confused me.  And mentioning the triplet where it did work did too.
Without the quotes I was able to understand where the brackets should
go (I was putting them in the wrong places and continued to have to
experiment to get it 'right' individually/per situation.) Thank you
both for your help

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RE: beaming with cadenzaOn

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Sam,

Perhaps
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams

Mark

-Original Message-
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Frybyte
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:16 AM
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Subject: beaming with cadenzaOn

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with acciaccaturas
between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.
Please direct me to the place in manual where this is found.
Thank you. Or if it's not in the manual and there's a solution that you know
I look forward to knowing this.
Jay

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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

[Brian Barker]

At 03:47 01/06/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker 
Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a left 
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".


It doesn't work.


It does for me - and clearly also for Mr Holmes.


I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing happens ...


For what it's worth, it works for me in 2.18.2.


Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks?


No.


Otherwise without the marks nothing happens.


You must be doing something different; I cannot guess what this may 
be. Are you sure you are putting both the brackets exactly where suggested?


Brian Barker 



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Re: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

[Phil Holmes]

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To: "lilypond user group" <lilypond-user@gnu.org>; 
<b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn



Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
To: lilypond user group <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Cc: Sam Frybyte <fryb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be 
beamed.



Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".



If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker


Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you


It does work:

{ \cadenzaOn \acciaccatura c'8 a8[
\acciaccatura b8 ges8]
\times 2/3 {f16[ des des]} des4
}


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RE;re; beaming with cadenzaOn

[Sam Frybyte]

Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:29:51 +0100
From: Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>
To: lilypond user group <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Cc: Sam Frybyte <fryb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: beaming with cadenzaOn
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At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
>If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
>acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
>in version. 2.18.2
>with \cadenzaOn
>\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
> \stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
> \times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4
>
>I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.

>>Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a >>left
>>bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".

>>If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more
>>readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose >>anything
>>but separately follow the notes to which they apply.
>>I trust this helps.
>>Brian Barker

Mr. Barker
It doesn't work.  I tried this and at least in version 2.18.2 nothing
happens- Unless you mean I must include the quotation marks? and if
you do where is this information in the manual?  Otherwise without the
marks nothing happens.
Thank you

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Re: beaming with cadenzaOn

[Brian Barker]

At 10:16 31/05/2017 -0700, Sam Frybyte wrote:
If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with 
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.

in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.


Just as you would beam any other notes: follow the a8 with a left 
bracket "a8[" and the ges8 with a right bracket "ges8]".


If you wrote your triplet as { f16[ des des] } you might see more 
readily how the notation works: the brackets do not enclose anything 
but separately follow the notes to which they apply.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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beaming with cadenzaOn

[Sam Frybyte]

If there is a time signature the beaming of 8th notes with
acciaccaturas between them is created as I expect.
in version. 2.18.2
with \cadenzaOn
\stemUp\acciaccatura c'8 \stemNeutral a8
\stemUp\acciaccatura b8 \stemNeutral ges8
\times 2/3 {f16 [des des]} des4

I have not been able to figure out or find a way for the 8ths to be beamed.
Please direct me to the place in manual where this is found.
Thank you. Or if it's not in the manual and there's a solution that you know
I look forward to knowing this.
Jay

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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Brin Solomon]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 2016-12-06 0:48 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> 2016-12-05 16:52 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered
> cadenza
> >> > while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
> >> > generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error
> >> > "programming
> >> > error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the
> rests
> >> > are
> >> > not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
> >> > but in
> >> > that case, I don't get the rests.
> >> >
> >> > Here is a minimal example that demonstrates the problem:
> >> >
> >> > %%
> >> >
> >> > \version "2.18.2"
> >> >
> >> > MyCadenza = \relative c' {
> >> >   c4 d8 e f g g4
> >> >   f2 g4 g \bar "|"
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > \new GrandStaff <<
> >> >   \new Staff {
> >> > \cadenzaOn
> >> > \MyCadenza
> >> > \cadenzaOff c'1
> >> >   }
> >> >   \new Staff {
> >> > \cadenzaOn
> >> > #(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza)
> >> > \cadenzaOff
> >> > c'1
> >> >   }
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> > %%%
> >> >
> >> > I'm running version 2.18.2 on Mac OS 10.11.6. Is there a different
> >> > command I
> >> > should be using to get a full measure rest while I'm using \cadenzaOn?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> > Brin
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> found some code on the list (can't say anymore who posted it
> >> initially) and extended it a bit. See attached.
> >> It completely avoids \cadenzaOn/Off, because of the hassle you
> >> experienced.
> >> midi may come out strange (not tested), I don't care about midi, though
> >> ...
> >>
> >> It's 2.15.24 code, but still working. Anyway running convert-ly over
> >> it may be a good idea.
> >>
> >> Maybe it helps,
> >>   Harm
> >
> >
> > Harm,
> >
> > Thanks for finding this! Ideally it would be nice to not have the
> fermatas
> > over the rests, but if that's tricky to do, then this version is fine.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Brin
>
> \cadenzaNotes takes three arguments. The first is a boolean, set it
> false to get rid of the fermata over the MultiMeasureRest.
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm
>

Ah, great, thank you!
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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Thomas Morley]

2016-12-06 0:48 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-12-05 16:52 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
>> > while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
>> > generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error
>> > "programming
>> > error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests
>> > are
>> > not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
>> > but in
>> > that case, I don't get the rests.
>> >
>> > Here is a minimal example that demonstrates the problem:
>> >
>> > %%
>> >
>> > \version "2.18.2"
>> >
>> > MyCadenza = \relative c' {
>> >   c4 d8 e f g g4
>> >   f2 g4 g \bar "|"
>> > }
>> >
>> > \new GrandStaff <<
>> >   \new Staff {
>> > \cadenzaOn
>> > \MyCadenza
>> > \cadenzaOff c'1
>> >   }
>> >   \new Staff {
>> > \cadenzaOn
>> > #(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza)
>> > \cadenzaOff
>> > c'1
>> >   }
>> >>>
>> >
>> > %%%
>> >
>> > I'm running version 2.18.2 on Mac OS 10.11.6. Is there a different
>> > command I
>> > should be using to get a full measure rest while I'm using \cadenzaOn?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Brin
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> found some code on the list (can't say anymore who posted it
>> initially) and extended it a bit. See attached.
>> It completely avoids \cadenzaOn/Off, because of the hassle you
>> experienced.
>> midi may come out strange (not tested), I don't care about midi, though
>> ...
>>
>> It's 2.15.24 code, but still working. Anyway running convert-ly over
>> it may be a good idea.
>>
>> Maybe it helps,
>>   Harm
>
>
> Harm,
>
> Thanks for finding this! Ideally it would be nice to not have the fermatas
> over the rests, but if that's tricky to do, then this version is fine.
>
> Thanks again,
> Brin

\cadenzaNotes takes three arguments. The first is a boolean, set it
false to get rid of the fermata over the MultiMeasureRest.

Cheers,
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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Brin Solomon]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Thomas Morley <thomasmorle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> 2016-12-05 16:52 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
> > while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
> > generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error "programming
> > error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests
> are
> > not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
> but in
> > that case, I don't get the rests.
> >
> > Here is a minimal example that demonstrates the problem:
> >
> > %%
> >
> > \version "2.18.2"
> >
> > MyCadenza = \relative c' {
> >   c4 d8 e f g g4
> >   f2 g4 g \bar "|"
> > }
> >
> > \new GrandStaff <<
> >   \new Staff {
> > \cadenzaOn
> > \MyCadenza
> > \cadenzaOff c'1
> >   }
> >   \new Staff {
> > \cadenzaOn
> > #(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza)
> > \cadenzaOff
> > c'1
> >   }
> >>>
> >
> > %%%
> >
> > I'm running version 2.18.2 on Mac OS 10.11.6. Is there a different
> command I
> > should be using to get a full measure rest while I'm using \cadenzaOn?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Brin
>
>
> Hi,
> found some code on the list (can't say anymore who posted it
> initially) and extended it a bit. See attached.
> It completely avoids \cadenzaOn/Off, because of the hassle you experienced.
> midi may come out strange (not tested), I don't care about midi, though ...
>
> It's 2.15.24 code, but still working. Anyway running convert-ly over
> it may be a good idea.
>
> Maybe it helps,
>   Harm
>

Harm,

Thanks for finding this! Ideally it would be nice to not have the fermatas
over the rests, but if that's tricky to do, then this version is fine.

Thanks again,
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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Thomas Morley]

2016-12-05 16:52 GMT+01:00 Brin Solomon <amphio...@gmail.com>:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
> while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
> generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error "programming
> error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests are
> not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead, but in
> that case, I don't get the rests.
>
> Here is a minimal example that demonstrates the problem:
>
> %%
>
> \version "2.18.2"
>
> MyCadenza = \relative c' {
>   c4 d8 e f g g4
>   f2 g4 g \bar "|"
> }
>
> \new GrandStaff <<
>   \new Staff {
> \cadenzaOn
> \MyCadenza
> \cadenzaOff c'1
>   }
>   \new Staff {
> \cadenzaOn
> #(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza)
> \cadenzaOff
> c'1
>   }
>>>
>
> %%%
>
> I'm running version 2.18.2 on Mac OS 10.11.6. Is there a different command I
> should be using to get a full measure rest while I'm using \cadenzaOn?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Brin


Hi,
found some code on the list (can't say anymore who posted it
initially) and extended it a bit. See attached.
It completely avoids \cadenzaOn/Off, because of the hassle you experienced.
midi may come out strange (not tested), I don't care about midi, though ...

It's 2.15.24 code, but still working. Anyway running convert-ly over
it may be a good idea.

Maybe it helps,
  Harm
\version "2.15.24" 

cadenzaNotes =
#(define-music-function (parser location fermata? music cad-music) (boolean? ly:music? ly:music?)
  (let* ((mus-len (ly:music-length  cad-music))
 (num (ly:moment-main-numerator mus-len))
 (denom (ly:moment-main-denominator mus-len))
 (fermata (make-music 'MultiMeasureTextEvent
 'tweaks (list
  ;; Set the 'text based on the 'direction
  (cons 'text (lambda (grob)
(if (eq? (ly:grob-property grob 'direction) DOWN)
(markup #:musicglyph "scripts.dfermata")
(markup #:musicglyph "scripts.ufermata"
  (cons 'outside-staff-priority 40)
  (cons 'outside-staff-padding 0
(lst (list
  	#{
  	  \set Timing.measureLength = $mus-len
  	  \scaleDurations #(cons num denom) $music 
  	  \unset Timing.measureLength
  	#}))
)
 (make-sequential-music
  (if fermata?
  (cons fermata lst)
  lst


othernotes = \relative c'' { d1 c1 }
cnotes = \relative c'' {  c8[ d e f g]  c,8[ d e f g]}
snotes = { $(skip-of-length cnotes) }
mnotesI = \cadenzaNotes ##t R1 \cnotes
mnotesII = \cadenzaNotes ##f \relative c'' { c2 d } \cnotes


\score {
 <<
   \new Staff { \othernotes \cnotes \othernotes }
   \new Staff { \othernotes \snotes \othernotes }
   \new Staff { \othernotes \mnotesI \othernotes }
   \new Staff { \othernotes \mnotesII \othernotes }
   \new Staff \relative c'' { d1 c1~ \cadenzaNotes ##t { c2\fermata g4\fermata c~ }  \cnotes  c1 d }
   % manually:
   \new Staff { \othernotes R1*10/8\fermataMarkup  \othernotes }
   \new Staff { \othernotes \scaleDurations #'(10 . 8) \relative c'' { c2\fermata g4\fermata c }  \othernotes }
 >>
}
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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[SoundsFromSound]

Nick Baskin wrote
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:16 PM, SoundsFromSound 

> soundsfromsound@

> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Nick Baskin wrote
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
>> > while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
>> > generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error
>> "programming
>> > error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the
>> rests
>> > are not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest
>> instead,
>> > but in that case, I don't get the rests.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Brin
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> 
> Hello Ben,
> 
> Maybe it's an issue with the screen shot, but it looks like there's no
> rest
> in the lower staff in the screenshot? But it's interesting that the error
> message disappears with the development version as opposed to the stable
> one; any thoughts on what might have changed?
> 
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Hi Brin,

You are correct, however I just thought perhaps you could find it useful if
you knew at least I was not seeing any errors like you were - perhaps you
can try your score in a 2.19 version just as a test? Not sure what's changed
but, no errors here. :) Let us know what happens.



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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Brin Solomon]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 1:16 PM, SoundsFromSound <soundsfromso...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nick Baskin wrote
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
> > while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
> > generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error "programming
> > error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests
> > are not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
> > but in that case, I don't get the rests.
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Brin
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> Hello,
>
> Not sure this 100% answers your question, but for what it's worth, I just
> copied and pasted your code into my Frescobaldi and the log showed no
> errors
> and it engraved "correctly" as is. No "programming error" at all.
>
> I used LilyPond 2.19.52.
>
> See attached for screenshot.
>
> Ben
>
> works_ok_.png
> <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n197654/works_ok_.png>
>
>
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Hello Ben,

Maybe it's an issue with the screen shot, but it looks like there's no rest
in the lower staff in the screenshot? But it's interesting that the error
message disappears with the development version as opposed to the stable
one; any thoughts on what might have changed?

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Re: mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[SoundsFromSound]

Nick Baskin wrote
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
> while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
> generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error "programming
> error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests
> are not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
> but in that case, I don't get the rests.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Brin
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Hello,

Not sure this 100% answers your question, but for what it's worth, I just
copied and pasted your code into my Frescobaldi and the log showed no errors
and it engraved "correctly" as is. No "programming error" at all.

I used LilyPond 2.19.52.

See attached for screenshot.

Ben

works_ok_.png
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mmrest-of-length and \cadenzaOn

[Brin Solomon]

Hello all,

I'm trying to typeset a piece where one player has an unmetered cadenza
while every other player rests. I'm trying to use mmrest-of-length to
generate the rests, but if I use \cadenzaOn, I get the error "programming
error: Multi_measure_rest::get_rods (): I am not spanned!" and the rests
are not printed. This error doesn't happen if I use skip-of-rest instead,
but in that case, I don't get the rests.

Here is a minimal example that demonstrates the problem:

%%

\version "2.18.2"

MyCadenza = \relative c' {
  c4 d8 e f g g4
  f2 g4 g \bar "|"
}

\new GrandStaff <<
  \new Staff {
\cadenzaOn
\MyCadenza
\cadenzaOff c'1
  }
  \new Staff {
\cadenzaOn
#(mmrest-of-length MyCadenza)
\cadenzaOff
c'1
  }
>>

%%%

I'm running version 2.18.2 on Mac OS 10.11.6. Is there a different command
I should be using to get a full measure rest while I'm using \cadenzaOn?

Thanks in advance,
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Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )

[Son_V]

Hi all, sorry for my newbyism, maybe I just know about 10% (at most) of
LilyPond, but I can't leave it because of the wonderfful graphical output
... 
I made a score of a Gregorian chant as I've seen on the web using modern
notation; using Musescore it was easy to say that a beat should not be 4/4
but sometimes a 13/8 or 9/8; I exported it to an .xml file and succeeded in
making it as I would using \cadenzaOn, gaining a score with the a-capo I
wished,  BUT it was just a one voice score. Now I'm fighting with a SATB
version of the same score (In Paradisum deducant te Angeli), and can't
reaally succeed to make it look as I would. I'm inserting \break \bar |
but it doesn't work as I wouldI made a lot of tryings but with no success.
Can anyone work on my file to make it correct and explain me what i'm doing
wrong? Many thanks.



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Re: Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:20 PM
Subject: Fighting with \cadenzaOn (and loosing :( )



Hi all, sorry for my newbyism, maybe I just know about 10% (at most) of
LilyPond, but I can't leave it because of the wonderfful graphical output
...
I made a score of a Gregorian chant as I've seen on the web using modern
notation; using Musescore it was easy to say that a beat should not be 4/4
but sometimes a 13/8 or 9/8; I exported it to an .xml file and succeeded 
in

making it as I would using \cadenzaOn, gaining a score with the a-capo I
wished,  BUT it was just a one voice score. Now I'm fighting with a SATB
version of the same score (In Paradisum deducant te Angeli), and can't
reaally succeed to make it look as I would. I'm inserting \break \bar |
but it doesn't work as I wouldI made a lot of tryings but with no success.
Can anyone work on my file to make it correct and explain me what i'm 
doing

wrong? Many thanks.



When you have a multi-staff (probably actually multi-voice) piece, there 
must be a a point where the music is not continuous in all parts for 
lilypond to find somewhere to put line breaks.  So, for example, if you had 
one voice singing half-note then a full string of whole notes, and the other 
just singing whole notes, there would be no-where for lilypond to break, 
since one voice is always active at any moment.


So: check you've got all the note lengths correct: there is almost certainly 
a cadence point where all the voices pause.


If you can't see a problem, feel free to mail your lilypond file and scan of 
music direct to me and I'll take a look.


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cadenzaOn

[Martin Tarenskeen]

Why is this not working (Lilypond 2.16.2)

\version 2.16.2
\relative c' {
\cadenzaOn
c4 d e f g
}

Processing `/home/m.tarenskeen/Dropbox/tmp/Cadenzatest.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `Cadenzatest.ps'...
Converting to `./Cadenzatest.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 0.6.

I get a score, but not
By trial and error I found this is working though:

\version 2.16.2
\relative c' {
s4
\cadenzaOn
c4 d e f g
}

Apparently I can't start my music with a cadenzaOn ???

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Re: cadenzaOn

[David Kastrup]

Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl writes:

 Why is this not working (Lilypond 2.16.2)

 \version 2.16.2
 \relative c' {
 \cadenzaOn
 c4 d e f g
 }

 Processing `/home/m.tarenskeen/Dropbox/tmp/Cadenzatest.ly'
 Parsing...
 Interpreting music...
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 Finding the ideal number of pages...
 Fitting music on 1 page...
 Drawing systems...
 Layout output to `Cadenzatest.ps'...
 Converting to `./Cadenzatest.pdf'...
 Success: compilation successfully completed
 Completed successfully in 0.6.

 I get a score, but not
 By trial and error I found this is working though:

 \version 2.16.2
 \relative c' {
 s4
 \cadenzaOn
 c4 d e f g
 }

 Apparently I can't start my music with a cadenzaOn ???

You need a Timing context first which usually is the same as Score but
not established before Score actually happens to be around.  So try
getting a Score context implicitly with \new Staff \relative ... or even
explicitly \new Score ... around your music.

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Re: cadenzaOn

[Eluze]

Martin Tarenskeen wrote
 Why is this not working (Lilypond 2.16.2)
 
 \version 2.16.2
 \relative c' {
  \cadenzaOn
  c4 d e f g
 }
 
 Processing `/home/m.tarenskeen/Dropbox/tmp/Cadenzatest.ly'
 Parsing...
 Interpreting music...
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 Finding the ideal number of pages...
 Fitting music on 1 page...
 Drawing systems...
 Layout output to `Cadenzatest.ps'...
 Converting to `./Cadenzatest.pdf'...
 Success: compilation successfully completed
 Completed successfully in 0.6.

hi Martin

it works since version 2.17.12

the problem seems to be the initialization of a context - so putting 

  \new Voice or \new Staff 

around your code or simply adding 

 

before the \cadenzaOn will remedy.

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Re: cadenzaOn

[David Kastrup]

Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 Martin Tarenskeen wrote
 Why is this not working (Lilypond 2.16.2)
 
 \version 2.16.2
 \relative c' {
  \cadenzaOn
  c4 d e f g
 }
 
 Processing `/home/m.tarenskeen/Dropbox/tmp/Cadenzatest.ly'
 Parsing...
 Interpreting music...
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 warning: cannot find or create `Timing' called `'
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 Finding the ideal number of pages...
 Fitting music on 1 page...
 Drawing systems...
 Layout output to `Cadenzatest.ps'...
 Converting to `./Cadenzatest.pdf'...
 Success: compilation successfully completed
 Completed successfully in 0.6.

 hi Martin

 it works since version 2.17.12

Ah, right.

commit 0392d585b07e3f42cd6a30637cdfe7e2d487c4ab
Author: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Date:   Sun Jan 27 18:33:37 2013 +0100

Issue 3140: Let find_create_context create Score context for Timing

More exactly: if find_create_context finds that no score context
exists yet, but creating one would make it find an alias of it, it
does so.

This is in order to let \set Timing.xxx = yyy work even in the rare
case that the Score context with its hardwired Timing alias does not
yet exist.


Seems that this one bothered me enough to fix it.

 the problem seems to be the initialization of a context - so putting 

   \new Voice or \new Staff 

 around your code or simply adding 

  

 before the \cadenzaOn will remedy.

Yup.

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Re: cadenzaOn

[Martin Tarenskeen]

Why is this not working (Lilypond 2.16.2)

\version 2.16.2
\relative c' {
 \cadenzaOn
 c4 d e f g
}



it works since version 2.17.12



   Issue 3140: Let find_create_context create Score context for Timing


The initial reason for my question was the 
major-scales-and-primary-triads.ly from another thread, that didn't work 
using LilyPond 2.16.2.


Thanks for your comments,

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cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[Sávio Ramos]

Hello,

The command \cadenzaOn  \cadenzaOff don't remove stem.


\version 2.14.2

\header{
title = Voz Tenor
}
\score{
\new Staff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver }
{
\time 4/4
\key c \major
\clef bass

\cadenzaOn
bes,4 d1  \glissando  g' c''4
\cadenzaOff

}
\layout{ \context {\Score}}
\midi{}
}


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Re: cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[David Kastrup]

Sávio Ramos savio.deb...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 The command \cadenzaOn  \cadenzaOff don't remove stem.

Is there a reason they should?

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Re: cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[Nathan]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sávio Ramos savio.deb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 The command \cadenzaOn  \cadenzaOff don't remove stem.


They shouldn't. They only affect timing, not the appearance of notes.

To hide stems, use

\override Stem #'stencil = ##f

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Re: cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[Eluze]

Nathan wrote
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sávio Ramos lt;

 savio.debian@

 gt; wrote:
 
 Hello,

 The command \cadenzaOn  \cadenzaOff don't remove stem.


 They shouldn't. They only affect timing, not the appearance of notes.
 
 To hide stems, use
 
 \override Stem #'stencil = ##f

/beams/ are removed

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Re: cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[David Kastrup]

Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 Nathan wrote
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sávio Ramos lt;

 savio.debian@

 gt; wrote:
 
 Hello,

 The command \cadenzaOn  \cadenzaOff don't remove stem.


 They shouldn't. They only affect timing, not the appearance of notes.
 
 To hide stems, use
 
 \override Stem #'stencil = ##f

 /beams/ are removed

Hardly.  Autobeaming is switched off, so you get only beams for manual
beaming.  But that does not mean that the beams are removed: rather
you get the default flags which are also used on isolated notes.

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Re: cadenzaOn / Off don't work

[Eluze]

David Kastrup wrote
 Eluze lt;

 eluzew@

 gt; writes:

 /beams/ are removed
 
 Hardly.  Autobeaming is switched off, so you get only beams for manual
 beaming.  But that does not mean that the beams are removed: rather
 you get the default flags which are also used on isolated notes.

I was addressing the possibility that Sávio Ramos might have confounded
stems and beams (and I didn't want to go into technical details) - if so he
got a hint otherwise he will/can specify what he meant specifically.

Eluze



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\cadenzaOn + accidental-style not working

[Wasil Sergejczyk]

when i set \cadenzaOn, set-accidental-style has no effect. do i use it
correctly? is it a bug or a feature? are there any workarounds?


\version 2.15.36
 \include italiano.ly
 global = {
 \cadenzaOn
 \key do \major
 \autoBeamOff
 \pointAndClickOff
 \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault
 #(set-accidental-style 'forget)
 }
 melody = {
 \global
 \clef alto
 \transpose do do' {
 do re mi fa sol la sib do' sib
 }
 }
 \score {
 
 \new Staff { \melody }
 
 \layout {
 %indent = 0
 \context {
 \Staff
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
 }
 \context {
 \Score
 \override BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
 }
 }

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Re: \cadenzaOn + accidental-style not working

[James]

Hello,

On 8 April 2012 10:36, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote:
 when i set \cadenzaOn, set-accidental-style has no effect. do i use it
 correctly? is it a bug or a feature? are there any workarounds?

Remember when you set a \cadenzaOn it is like one giant *single*
measure - even if you put in \bar |, until *after* cadenzaOff, so
you have to manually set your Accidentals.

Hope that helps.

James



 \version 2.15.36
 \include italiano.ly
 global = {
 \cadenzaOn
 \key do \major
 \autoBeamOff
 \pointAndClickOff
 \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault
 #(set-accidental-style 'forget)
 }
 melody = {
 \global
 \clef alto
 \transpose do do' {
 do re mi fa sol la sib do' sib
 }
 }
 \score {
 
 \new Staff { \melody }
 
 \layout {
 %indent = 0
 \context {
 \Staff
 \remove Time_signature_engraver
 }
 \context {
 \Score
 \override BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
 }
 }

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Re: \cadenzaOn + accidental-style not working

[Wasil Sergejczyk]

oops, sorry, i put #(set-accidental-style 'forget) in the wrong place. all
works npw.

2012/4/8 James pkx1...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 On 8 April 2012 10:36, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.com wrote:
  when i set \cadenzaOn, set-accidental-style has no effect. do i use it
  correctly? is it a bug or a feature? are there any workarounds?

 Remember when you set a \cadenzaOn it is like one giant *single*
 measure - even if you put in \bar |, until *after* cadenzaOff, so
 you have to manually set your Accidentals.

 Hope that helps.

 James

 
 
  \version 2.15.36
  \include italiano.ly
  global = {
  \cadenzaOn
  \key do \major
  \autoBeamOff
  \pointAndClickOff
  \override Staff.NoteHead #'style = #'altdefault
  #(set-accidental-style 'forget)
  }
  melody = {
  \global
  \clef alto
  \transpose do do' {
  do re mi fa sol la sib do' sib
  }
  }
  \score {
  
  \new Staff { \melody }
  
  \layout {
  %indent = 0
  \context {
  \Staff
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
  }
  \context {
  \Score
  \override BarNumber #'transparent = ##t
  }
  }
 
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Re: Question re: CadenzaOn

[Xavier Scheuer]

On 20/09/2010, Joshua Armenta josharme...@gmail.com wrote:

 That fixed it, thanks!
 Josh Armenta

You're welcome!
Glad to see it was what you wanted.

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Question re: CadenzaOn

[Joshua Armenta]

Hello,

I have a score with multiple staves. One instrument enter into unmetered
timing and performs a cadenza, the other five instruments rest. The problem
is that when the file is compiled, the barlines in the output is completely
thrown off, even when the same measure is put into a Cadenza on statement in
every stave. I have tried with a whole rest and with using the cadenza notes
as a model and replacing note names with R (Thus preserving the values) but
the output iisn't fixed either way

I can't seem to find any answers. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Josh Armenta

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Re: Question re: CadenzaOn

[Paul Scott]

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:11:32AM -0400, Joshua Armenta wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a score with multiple staves. One instrument enter into unmetered
 timing and performs a cadenza, the other five instruments rest. The problem
 is that when the file is compiled, the barlines in the output is completely
 thrown off, even when the same measure is put into a Cadenza on statement in
 every stave. I have tried with a whole rest and with using the cadenza notes
 as a model and replacing note names with R (Thus preserving the values) but
 the output iisn't fixed either way
 
 I can't seem to find any answers. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Put the timing information with skips in a separate definition.  Combine it 
with 
the top voice in the score and with each part when doing the parts.

timing = {
  \time = 4/4 s1*32   \cadenzaOn s4*7   \cadenzaOff
  \time = 3/4 s2.*32 
}

parta = { a4 ...   \cadenzaOn a4 b4 a4 b4 a4 b4 a4 \cadenzaOff a4 ... }
partb = { b4 ... }

Score:
\score{ 
 
  \new Staff  \timing \parta 
  \new Staff  \partb 
 
}

Part A:
\score{ 
 
  \new Staff  \timing \parta 
 
}

Part B:
\score{ 
 
  \new Staff  \timing \partb 
 
}

I may have every detail correct but that's the idea.

HTH

Paul Scott 



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Re: Question re: CadenzaOn

[Xavier Scheuer]

On 19 September 2010 08:11, Joshua Armenta josharme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 I have a score with multiple staves. One instrument enter into unmetered
 timing and performs a cadenza, the other five instruments rest. The problem
 is that when the file is compiled, the barlines in the output is completely
 thrown off, even when the same measure is put into a Cadenza on statement in
 every stave. I have tried with a whole rest and with using the cadenza notes
 as a model and replacing note names with R (Thus preserving the values) but
 the output iisn't fixed either way
 I can't seem to find any answers. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Pu the cadenza in a separate variable and use
  #(ly:export (mmrest-of-length MyCadenza))

as explained in NR 1.2.6 Special rhythmic concerns  Aligning to cadenzas
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns.html#aligning-to-cadenzas

Cheers,
Xavier

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Bug with cadenzaOn?

[Phil Holmes]

Not a big deal, and my apologies for raising possible bugs rather too 
frequently, but...


Run the following:

\version 2.8.0
{

\new Staff 
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
r1  r1 |
R1*4/4  \bar |. }



\new Staff 
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
\cadenzaOn  c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \cadenzaOff   |
R1*4/4  \bar |.
}




}

and the logfile includes:

CadenzaTestSmall.ly:9:8: warning: barcheck failed at: 2
r1  r1
   |

Reverse the order of the Staves:

\version 2.8.0
{
\new Staff 
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
\cadenzaOn  c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 c'4 \cadenzaOff   |
R1*4/4  \bar |.
}




\new Staff 
\new Voice {
\clef treble_8
\time 4/4
r1  r1 |
R1*4/4  \bar |. }




}

and it runs clean.

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Re: \cadenzaOn question

[Mats Bengtsson]

It seems nobody has answered your question. The first thing to note is 
that \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff commands affect the full score, i.e. all 
staves. Otherwise, I think the description in the Notation Reference 
more or less says it all, namely that \cadenzaOn simply tells LilyPond 
to stop counting beats and inserting bar lines automatically (which 
again applies to all staves).
If you move the Timing_translator from the Score level to Staff level, 
as described in 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-rhythms#Polymetric-notation
then the \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff commands only apply to the current 
stave, since they set properties on the Timing context, see 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/user/lilypond/Special-rhythmic-concerns#Time-administration


   /Mats

James E. Bailey wrote:
Because of a question on the german forum, I thought I'd ask here. Is 
the music in a cadenza supposed to take up no time? Consider the 
following:


\version 2.12.1
\relative c'{
   \time 2/4
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t 
   c4 d
   

  {  R2^G.P. }
  \new Staff { \cadenzaOn e4 f e d \cadenzaOff }
   
   R2*2
   c2  
}


\relative c'{
   \time 2/4
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t 
   c4 d e f
   

  {  R2^G.P. }
  \new Staff { \cadenzaOn e4 f e d \cadenzaOff s2 }
   
   R2*2
   c2  
}


I can certainly understand the logic behind it, but I couldn't find 
anywhere that this was explained. Perhaps it is implied in the 
notation reference, but it really only mentions bar lines and bar 
numbers, but not how cadenzas fit into multi-staff music.


James E. Bailey





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\cadenzaOn question

[James E. Bailey]

Because of a question on the german forum, I thought I'd ask here. Is  
the music in a cadenza supposed to take up no time? Consider the  
following:


\version 2.12.1
\relative c'{
   \time 2/4
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t
   c4 d
   
  {  R2^G.P. }
  \new Staff { \cadenzaOn e4 f e d \cadenzaOff }
   
   R2*2
   c2
}

\relative c'{
   \time 2/4
   \set Score.skipBars = ##t
   c4 d e f
   
  {  R2^G.P. }
  \new Staff { \cadenzaOn e4 f e d \cadenzaOff s2 }
   
   R2*2
   c2
}

I can certainly understand the logic behind it, but I couldn't find  
anywhere that this was explained. Perhaps it is implied in the  
notation reference, but it really only mentions bar lines and bar  
numbers, but not how cadenzas fit into multi-staff music.


James E. Bailey



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