Re: New to Lilypond, how do i change the left hand clef from bass clef to treble clef right at the beginning of the piece?

2018-09-18 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 19.09.2018 01:13, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:

Triple,

Why not just start with a treble clef?


In piano music, one avoids that because pianists are so used to the 
usual clef combination that other constellations are somewhat likely to 
be overlooked.


Best, Simon

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RE: New to Lilypond, how do i change the left hand clef from bass clef to treble clef right at the beginning of the piece?

2018-09-18 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Triple,

Why not just start with a treble clef?

Mark

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I'm working in Frescobaldi, so I have the right hand and left hand, and for
the first two measures of the left hand I need to switch from bass to treble
before any notes. I'm having difficulty explaining but you see in the
picture what I'm trying to do. What is the least complicated way to do this?



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Re: New to Lilypond, how do i change the left hand clef from bass clef to treble clef right at the beginning of the piece?

2018-09-18 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2018-09-18 2:55 pm, tripleamia wrote:


I'm working in Frescobaldi, so I have the right hand and left hand, and 
for
the first two measures of the left hand I need to switch from bass to 
treble

before any notes. I'm having difficulty explaining but you see in the
picture what I'm trying to do. What is the least complicated way to do 
this?


Here is an ugly hack that achieves what you want by inserting a very 
small moment to allow the initial bass clef to not be immediately 
overridden by the treble clef:



\version "2.19.82"
hack = { \cadenzaOn s128 \cadenzaOff }
\new PianoStaff { <<
  \new Staff {
\clef treble \key d \major \time 3/4 \hack
fis''4. e''8 d''4 | a'4. g'8 fis'4 | }
  \new Staff {
\clef bass \key d \major \time 3/4 \hack
\clef treble d''4 a'8 fis' d'4 |
\clef bass d'4 a8 fis d4 | } >> }


That hack in mind, what I would do is not try to duplicate the reference 
engraving exactly and rather just go with the treble clef from the 
beginning.  This would visually simplify the piece and give you back a 
little width in the line as you don't need the otherwise useless bass 
clef.


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New to Lilypond, how do i change the left hand clef from bass clef to treble clef right at the beginning of the piece?

2018-09-18 Thread tripleamia

I'm working in Frescobaldi, so I have the right hand and left hand, and for
the first two measures of the left hand I need to switch from bass to treble
before any notes. I'm having difficulty explaining but you see in the
picture what I'm trying to do. What is the least complicated way to do this?



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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-24 Thread Ben

On 4/23/2018 4:45 PM, AikiZen wrote:

Le Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:57:24 -0400,
Ben  a écrit :

Now that I think about it, you may actually find better success with
Music21 - have you heard of it? It's a large collection of goodies
that will tick a lot of boxes for a lot of interesting music-related
projects. Works well w/ LilyPond as well.

Check it out if you haven't already :)

http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/moduleReference/moduleLilyLilyObjects.html

http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/about/what.html

music21 are python library for create score in python ?

How can i create tab for guitar in python ?

Best Regard,
Aiki



Hi Aiki,

Music21 has a fantastic active community mailing list here:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/music21list

Michael Scott Cuthbert is very involved in the group and there are a lot 
of people offering helpful advice among the threads - try posting there 
and you should get some feedback.


Good luck!


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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Garreth
Thank y'all so much for the great answers and resources!

I realized shortly after I wrote my message that, since LilyPond is
text-based, it would certainly be possible to have a Py doc output some text
that could be put into an LP project. I'm glad to know that there are
several ways to bridge this gap already.

I will certainly be learning a lot more about this in the next few months
and I look forward to chatting with you guys more! For now, I'm glad to know
that what I want to do is very possible and I look forward to diving in with
learning more Python plus LP and Fresco!

Thanks again!!!


Garreth



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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Karlin High

On 4/23/2018 3:45 PM, AikiZen wrote:

How can i create tab for guitar in python ?


This email list will provide help with LilyPond.

Learning manual:


Fretted string instruments:


After learning guitar tab in LilyPond, other messages in this thread 
mention Python projects that use LilyPond.


If there are ways to make guitar tab music in Python without using 
LilyPond, this email list will not have good help for them. You would 
need a Python forum instead.

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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread AikiZen
Le Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:57:24 -0400,
Ben  a écrit :
> Now that I think about it, you may actually find better success with 
> Music21 - have you heard of it? It's a large collection of goodies
> that will tick a lot of boxes for a lot of interesting music-related 
> projects. Works well w/ LilyPond as well.
> 
> Check it out if you haven't already :)
> 
> http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/moduleReference/moduleLilyLilyObjects.html
> 
> http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/about/what.html

music21 are python library for create score in python ?

How can i create tab for guitar in python ?

Best Regard,
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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread David Kastrup
Garreth <dr.broes...@gmail.com> writes:

> I am brand new to Lilypond (and Frescobaldi), like a couple of days new. I am
> a music theory professor looking to use some computer skills I have (I know
> some Python) to aid my teaching and research. I am sorry if this is a really
> basic question, or if it's been answered elsewhere in these forums. I tried
> to find an answer but didn't find one that made a lot of sense to me.
>
> Here are my questions:
>
> Can one write programs in Python that will then structure and launch scores
> in Frescobaldi/Lilypond? Specifically, I would like to write algorithms in
> Python that, given parameters I am working on programming, can write scores
> that can then be translated to and launched in Lilypond/Frescobaldi?
>
> Could one conceivably go the other way, somehow send a Lilypond document to
> a Python program that can "grade" and "evaluate" the score in ways that I am
> working on programming?
>
> I am not looking for a lot of depth at this point. I basically just want to
> know if these scenarios are possible. I don't want to spend a whole lot of
> time learning programs (like Lilypond and Frescobaldi) if my end goal simply
> isn't possible.
>
> Thank you so much for helping an sorry again if this has been covered
> elsewhere!

LilyPond uses Scheme (in particular GNU Guile) as its extension
language.  Frescobaldi, however, is written in Python and has a library
for parsing a lot of LilyPond (which it uses for syntax highlighting,
indentation, on-the-fly transposition and conversion between
relative/absolute mode, so it does a somewhat comprehensive job).  So
you might have success reading up the Frescobaldi programmer or
power-user level documentation.

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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Ben

On 4/23/2018 1:10 PM, Garreth wrote:

I am brand new to Lilypond (and Frescobaldi), like a couple of days new. I am
a music theory professor looking to use some computer skills I have (I know
some Python) to aid my teaching and research. I am sorry if this is a really
basic question, or if it's been answered elsewhere in these forums. I tried
to find an answer but didn't find one that made a lot of sense to me.

Here are my questions:

Can one write programs in Python that will then structure and launch scores
in Frescobaldi/Lilypond? Specifically, I would like to write algorithms in
Python that, given parameters I am working on programming, can write scores
that can then be translated to and launched in Lilypond/Frescobaldi?

Could one conceivably go the other way, somehow send a Lilypond document to
a Python program that can "grade" and "evaluate" the score in ways that I am
working on programming?



Now that I think about it, you may actually find better success with 
Music21 - have you heard of it? It's a large collection of goodies that 
will tick a lot of boxes for a lot of interesting music-related 
projects. Works well w/ LilyPond as well.


Check it out if you haven't already :)

http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/moduleReference/moduleLilyLilyObjects.html

http://web.mit.edu/music21/doc/about/what.html
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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Ben

On 4/23/2018 1:32 PM, Karlin High wrote:

On 4/23/2018 12:10 PM, Garreth wrote:
Can one write programs in Python that will then structure and launch 
scores
in Frescobaldi/Lilypond? Specifically, I would like to write 
algorithms in
Python that, given parameters I am working on programming, can write 
scores

that can then be translated to and launched in Lilypond/Frescobaldi?


That sounds a lot like the Abjad software project.


And, welcome to the world of LilyPond!


Hi Garreth,

Absolutely - I highly recommend both:

https://www.python-course.eu/python_scores.php

and

Abjad - they are outstanding resources.
http://abjad.mbrsi.org/

Even though the first Python course link seems rather elementary with 
its example that was chosen, the *potential *is massive - it's inspired 
me to make quite a few pieces using this Python-centric approach. Great 
for inspiration and seeing the bigger picture when it comes to putting 
all the pieces of a score together.


Definitely check it out.

And Abjad, wellit's just mind-boggling awesome.
A real game changer.
Heck, I'm always finding new things it can do and it's so much fun to 
work with. Very inspiring.
The learning curve can be quite a lot at first, but when it clicks...oh 
it clicks. Wicked good stuff.


Good luck!


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Re: New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Karlin High

On 4/23/2018 12:10 PM, Garreth wrote:

Can one write programs in Python that will then structure and launch scores
in Frescobaldi/Lilypond? Specifically, I would like to write algorithms in
Python that, given parameters I am working on programming, can write scores
that can then be translated to and launched in Lilypond/Frescobaldi?


That sounds a lot like the Abjad software project.


And, welcome to the world of LilyPond!
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New to Lilypond - Questions about using Python to structure Lilypond scores

2018-04-23 Thread Garreth
I am brand new to Lilypond (and Frescobaldi), like a couple of days new. I am
a music theory professor looking to use some computer skills I have (I know
some Python) to aid my teaching and research. I am sorry if this is a really
basic question, or if it's been answered elsewhere in these forums. I tried
to find an answer but didn't find one that made a lot of sense to me.

Here are my questions:

Can one write programs in Python that will then structure and launch scores
in Frescobaldi/Lilypond? Specifically, I would like to write algorithms in
Python that, given parameters I am working on programming, can write scores
that can then be translated to and launched in Lilypond/Frescobaldi?

Could one conceivably go the other way, somehow send a Lilypond document to
a Python program that can "grade" and "evaluate" the score in ways that I am
working on programming?

I am not looking for a lot of depth at this point. I basically just want to
know if these scenarios are possible. I don't want to spend a whole lot of
time learning programs (like Lilypond and Frescobaldi) if my end goal simply
isn't possible.

Thank you so much for helping an sorry again if this has been covered
elsewhere!


Garreth




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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer
Ich habe drei verschiedene Browser ausprobiert (Firefox, Chrome, IE), kein
einziger hatte ein Problem damit, auf das Forum zuzugreifen. Meiner
Erfahrung nach kann ein veraltetes Datum im Betriebssystem diese
Fehlermeldung verursachen.

Am 25. April 2017 um 12:22 schrieb <zs.has...@gmx.de>:

> Da kommen insgesamt gerade sehr wirre Sachen, ich warte jetzt erst Mal ab,
> wie das in paar Stunden aussieht.
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-
> > bounces+zs.hassia=gmx...@gnu.org] Im Auftrag von Urs Liska
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. April 2017 12:16
> > An: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> > Betreff: Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges
> > LilyPond-Forum
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 25.04.2017 um 12:10 schrieb Stephan Zitzmann:
> > > Ich habe jetzt es mal mit Chrome probiert,  weil ich mit dem noch nie
> > > auf dem Forum war. Es sieht  so aus. Siehe Anhang.
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2017-04-25 Thread zs.hassia
Da kommen insgesamt gerade sehr wirre Sachen, ich warte jetzt erst Mal ab,
wie das in paar Stunden aussieht. 

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-
> bounces+zs.hassia=gmx...@gnu.org] Im Auftrag von Urs Liska
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. April 2017 12:16
> An: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Betreff: Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges
> LilyPond-Forum
> 
> 
> 
> Am 25.04.2017 um 12:10 schrieb Stephan Zitzmann:
> > Ich habe jetzt es mal mit Chrome probiert,  weil ich mit dem noch nie
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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela
Hast du deine Systemzeit richtig eingestellt?

Grüße,
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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Urs Liska


Am 25.04.2017 um 12:10 schrieb Stephan Zitzmann:
> Ich habe jetzt es mal mit Chrome probiert,  weil ich mit dem noch nie auf
> dem Forum war. Es sieht  so aus. Siehe Anhang.

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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Stephan Zitzmann
Ich habe jetzt es mal mit Chrome probiert,  weil ich mit dem noch nie auf
dem Forum war. Es sieht  so aus. Siehe Anhang.
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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Malte Meyn


Am 25.04.2017 um 11:39 schrieb Malte Meyn:
> 
> 
> Am 25.04.2017 um 11:36 schrieb Urs Liska:
>> So weit *ich* das sehen kann, ist die Seite mit einem Let's
>> Encrypt-Zertifikat versehen (s. Anhang).
> 
> Richtig. Ich hoste bei Uberspace und habe ein Let’s-Encrypt-Zertifikat
> für archive.lilypondforum.de und lilypondforum.de eingerichtet.

archiv, nicht archive

> 
>> Musst du vielleicht den Browser-Cache leeren oder ein veraltetes, nicht
>> mehr verwendetes Zertifikat entfernen?
> 
> Scheint so, mein Hoster Uberspace hat mit kasserver.com nichts zu tun,
> aber das alte Forum war bei all-inkl.de gehostet und da hab ich öfter
> was von kasserver.com gelesen.
> 
>> HTH
>> Urs
>>
>>
>> Am 25.04.2017 um 11:32 schrieb zs.has...@gmx.de:
>>> Auf http://kasserver.com/news/ heißt es:
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>>> 30 Tage vor dem Ablaufen automatisch erneuert wird. Bitte beachten Sie, dass
>>> sich das "Let’s encrypt"-Projekt derzeit noch in der offenen Testphase
>>> befindet.
>>>
>>> Der Einblendung bei deinem Zertifikat zur Folge nutzt dein Hoster
>>> Kasserver.com. Also Gehe auf die Domain-Verwaltung und schau unter SSL nach.
>>> Du musst eigentlich nur ein Häkchen setzten.
>>>
>>>
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2017-04-25 Thread Malte Meyn


Am 25.04.2017 um 11:36 schrieb Urs Liska:
> So weit *ich* das sehen kann, ist die Seite mit einem Let's
> Encrypt-Zertifikat versehen (s. Anhang).

Richtig. Ich hoste bei Uberspace und habe ein Let’s-Encrypt-Zertifikat
für archive.lilypondforum.de und lilypondforum.de eingerichtet.

> Musst du vielleicht den Browser-Cache leeren oder ein veraltetes, nicht
> mehr verwendetes Zertifikat entfernen?

Scheint so, mein Hoster Uberspace hat mit kasserver.com nichts zu tun,
aber das alte Forum war bei all-inkl.de gehostet und da hab ich öfter
was von kasserver.com gelesen.

> HTH
> Urs
> 
> 
> Am 25.04.2017 um 11:32 schrieb zs.has...@gmx.de:
>> Auf http://kasserver.com/news/ heißt es:
>>
>> 08.04.2016 08:00 - Unterstützung von Let’s Encrypt-Zertifikaten
>>
>> Alle Tarife mit SSL-Erweiterung unterstützen ab sofort die Einbindung von
>> kostenlosen "Let’s Encrypt"-Zertifikaten. Hierfür gibt es im Punkt "Domain
>> bzw. Subdomain bearbeiten" unter "SSL Schutz: bearbeiten" einen weiteren
>> Menüpunkt "Let’s Encrypt". Dort lässt sich mit einem einzigen Klick das
>> Zertifikat für die jeweilige Sub-/Domain beziehen, welches vom System etwa
>> 30 Tage vor dem Ablaufen automatisch erneuert wird. Bitte beachten Sie, dass
>> sich das "Let’s encrypt"-Projekt derzeit noch in der offenen Testphase
>> befindet.
>>
>> Der Einblendung bei deinem Zertifikat zur Folge nutzt dein Hoster
>> Kasserver.com. Also Gehe auf die Domain-Verwaltung und schau unter SSL nach.
>> Du musst eigentlich nur ein Häkchen setzten.
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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Urs Liska
So weit *ich* das sehen kann, ist die Seite mit einem Let's
Encrypt-Zertifikat versehen (s. Anhang).

Musst du vielleicht den Browser-Cache leeren oder ein veraltetes, nicht
mehr verwendetes Zertifikat entfernen?

HTH
Urs


Am 25.04.2017 um 11:32 schrieb zs.has...@gmx.de:
> Auf http://kasserver.com/news/ heißt es:
>
> 08.04.2016 08:00 - Unterstützung von Let’s Encrypt-Zertifikaten
>
> Alle Tarife mit SSL-Erweiterung unterstützen ab sofort die Einbindung von
> kostenlosen "Let’s Encrypt"-Zertifikaten. Hierfür gibt es im Punkt "Domain
> bzw. Subdomain bearbeiten" unter "SSL Schutz: bearbeiten" einen weiteren
> Menüpunkt "Let’s Encrypt". Dort lässt sich mit einem einzigen Klick das
> Zertifikat für die jeweilige Sub-/Domain beziehen, welches vom System etwa
> 30 Tage vor dem Ablaufen automatisch erneuert wird. Bitte beachten Sie, dass
> sich das "Let’s encrypt"-Projekt derzeit noch in der offenen Testphase
> befindet.
>
> Der Einblendung bei deinem Zertifikat zur Folge nutzt dein Hoster
> Kasserver.com. Also Gehe auf die Domain-Verwaltung und schau unter SSL nach.
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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread zs.hassia
Einerseits Danke. Aber das https:// Zertifikat wird von meinem Browser nicht
akzeptiert. (Was zu tun ist, weiß ich.) Aber falls die Let’s
Encrypt-Zertifkate bei deinem Hoster möglich sein sollten, würde es dieses
Verhalten nicht geben, dir aber keine Kosten entstehen.


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Re: New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread zs.hassia
Auf http://kasserver.com/news/ heißt es:

08.04.2016 08:00 - Unterstützung von Let’s Encrypt-Zertifikaten

Alle Tarife mit SSL-Erweiterung unterstützen ab sofort die Einbindung von
kostenlosen "Let’s Encrypt"-Zertifikaten. Hierfür gibt es im Punkt "Domain
bzw. Subdomain bearbeiten" unter "SSL Schutz: bearbeiten" einen weiteren
Menüpunkt "Let’s Encrypt". Dort lässt sich mit einem einzigen Klick das
Zertifikat für die jeweilige Sub-/Domain beziehen, welches vom System etwa
30 Tage vor dem Ablaufen automatisch erneuert wird. Bitte beachten Sie, dass
sich das "Let’s encrypt"-Projekt derzeit noch in der offenen Testphase
befindet.

Der Einblendung bei deinem Zertifikat zur Folge nutzt dein Hoster
Kasserver.com. Also Gehe auf die Domain-Verwaltung und schau unter SSL nach.
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New german LilyPond forum | Neues deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum

2017-04-25 Thread Malte Meyn
%%% German version (english below)

Liebe Freunde des guten Notensatzes,

nach einer Auszeit von knapp einem Monat gibt es endlich ein neues
deutschsprachiges LilyPond-Forum! Es ist zu finden unter
https://lilypondforum.de.

Die alten Threads sind nicht verloren, sie werden innerhalb der nächsten
Tage unter https://archiv.lilypondforum.de online gehen; ich kümmere
mich gerade noch um die Dateianhänge und die internen Links.

Die Registrierung unter
https://lilypondforum.de/index.php?action=register ist ab sofort offen.

Auf viele weitere Jahre konstruktiven Beisammenseins!

Viele Grüße
Malte

%%% English version

Dear friends of good music engraving,

after a timeout of a month finally there is a new german LilyPond forum!
You can find it at https://lilypondforum.de.

The old threads aren’t lost forever, they’ll become available at
https://archiv.lilypondforum.de.

Registration is open at https://lilypondforum.de/index.php?action=register.

Cheers,
Malte

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New "Using LilyPond with MIDI" Video (Weekly Lilypond Tutorials)

2016-09-22 Thread SoundsFromSound
/(I had trouble sending this to the mailing list, I wasn't able to login as I
normally could, so I apologize if this ends up being a duplicate. I'm pretty
sure the other message didn't get posted to the mailing list because Nabble
said so. Thanks.)
/
Hi everyone,

I had posted this in the LilyPond Facebook group a few days ago, but I
figured I'd share it here for those who do not use Facebook. Hope that's ok.

*TL;DR*
I've uploaded a new video showing a complete guide on how to use LilyPond
and MIDI input (Frescobaldi). Also I have resumed a weekly LilyPond tutorial
upload schedule. Topics include: SCHEME, score layout, page formatting,
markup, tweaks and overrides, and MusicXML. /Requests are welcomed./

Link to new MIDI LilyPond tutorial: http://bit.ly/LilyPondMIDI
_ 
(facebook post below)

Hey all,

I know it's been quite a while since I last shared a tutorial video with the
community, but I am happy to announce that I am back to my normal,
consistent, weekly upload schedule. I've had to deal with some family
situations, health concerns, and it all took way longer than I thought it
would. But I'm back!

I love LilyPond and it's such an amazing piece of software and the community
is such a great resource that I am so proud to give back wherever I can. I
do these tutorial videos as a way to say thank you to all of you for all
that you've done to help make LilyPond as amazing as it is today. Just want
to give back however I can.

I've uploaded two new tutorials tonight for those who are interested. I have
created a complete, step by step guide on setting up MIDI keyboards for MIDI
input to your scores (step-recording), configuring MIDI playback, instrument
assignments, MIDI channels, and MIDI export. I also talk about some new
updates in the LilyPond changelog as well.

I just wanted to share these links in hopes that new users may find them
useful and they'll love LilyPond as much as we all do.

Here is the link:
http://bit.ly/2czb2HE

I'm going to be making new Scheme/LilyPond tutorials next week, along with
focusing on score layouts and tweaks/contexts. Please leave a comment if you
have any feedback or requests.

Thank you!

Hope you all have a nice week,

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New "Using LilyPond with MIDI" Video (New Weekly Lilypond Tutorials)

2016-09-22 Thread SoundsFromSound
Hi everyone,

I had posted this in the LilyPond Facebook group a few days ago, but I
figured I'd share it here for those who do not use Facebook. Hope that's ok.

*TL;DR*
I've uploaded a new video showing a complete guide on how to use LilyPond
and MIDI input (Frescobaldi). Also I have resumed a weekly LilyPond tutorial
upload schedule. Topics include: SCHEME, score layout, page formatting,
markup, tweaks and overrides, and MusicXML. /Requests are welcomed./

Link to new MIDI LilyPond tutorial: http://bit.ly/LilyPondMIDI
_
(facebook post below)

Hey all,

I know it's been quite a while since I last shared a tutorial video with the
community, but I am happy to announce that I am back to my normal,
consistent, weekly upload schedule. I've had to deal with some family
situations, health concerns, and it all took way longer than I thought it
would. But I'm back!

I love LilyPond and it's such an amazing piece of software and the community
is such a great resource that I am so proud to give back wherever I can. I
do these tutorial videos as a way to say thank you to all of you for all
that you've done to help make LilyPond as amazing as it is today.

I've uploaded two new tutorials tonight for those who are interested. I have
created a complete, step by step guide on setting up MIDI keyboards for MIDI
input to your scores (step-recording), configuring MIDI playback, instrument
assignments, MIDI channels, and MIDI export. I also talk about some new
updates in the LilyPond changelog as well.

I just wanted to share these links in hopes that new users may find them
useful and they'll love LilyPond as much as we all do.

Here is the link:
http://bit.ly/2czb2HE

I'm going to be making new Scheme/LillyPond tutorials next week, along with
focusing on score layouts and tweaks/contexts. Please leave a comment if you
have any feedback or requests.

Thank you!

Hope you all have a nice week,

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Re: New to Lilypond - including score in LaTeX

2015-10-10 Thread karl
Светлана Лобанова:
> 09.10.2015, 03:40, "Felix Yeung" <yeung_fe...@yahoo.com.hk>:
> > I’m very new to Lilypond, currently typesetting a document with
> > plainsong notation (with gregorio)

 I have heard of gregorio (http://gregorio-project.github.io/)
but never got to use it. I guess that by specializing on just gregorian 
chant it can produce nice looking scores. Lilypond gregorian support is 
less than perfect, the notes get to widely spaced (I have somewhat 
similar experience with white mensural notes in lilypond).

Is there any experiences you would like to share about gregorio ?

> and with occasional modern
> > music. I am wondering if you there’s any way to incorporate
> > lilypond scores into my document?

If you are using tex/latex/..., then you usually use lilypond-book
for that, see:

 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/lilypond_002dbook

For OpenOffice and LibreOffice:

 http://ooolilypond.sourceforge.net/

else you can use some wariant of:

 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/lilypond-output-in-other-programs#inserting-lilypond-output-into-other-programs

> I had some unwanted issues with lilypond-book and TeX (I don't
> remember which ones), so I've chosen "manual method", enhanced with
> .bat file (on Windows). I have a .bat file which compilles all my
> .ly files (plenty of lines like this "lilypond -dbackend=eps
> -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -dno-aux-files  filename.ly").
> Then I include all of them as pdf images in .tex. The drawback is
> when you have multi-page score you will need to include them
> page-by-page.

I also had some issues with lilypond-book:

. all thoose lily- files made no sense for me and they made
  it more or less impossible to work with make
. it did not work reliably with make, maybe that's fixed by now

///

I currently uses a mix of the third method above and lilypond-book for
including scores into latex docs. I have

 \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly"

at top of file, and run it as

 lilypond --ps -dbackend=eps 
 lilypond-psfonts .psfonts .eps

(where lilypond-psfonts is an extract from an old version of
lilypond-book) and then I use

 \input{II-systems.tex}

in the latex file, and finish off with

 latex 
 dvips -h  

There migth be some better way to do it today though, I havn't
investigated that. For an example, see:

 http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/WAMozart/requiem/

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Re: New to Lilypond - including score in LaTeX

2015-10-09 Thread Светлана Лобанова
I had some unwanted issues with lilypond-book and TeX (I don't remember which 
ones), so I've chosen "manual method", enhanced with .bat file (on Windows). I 
have a .bat file which compilles all my .ly files (plenty of lines like this 
"lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts -dno-aux-files  
filename.ly"). Then I include all of them as pdf images in .tex. The drawback 
is when you have multi-page score you will need to include them page-by-page.

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09.10.2015, 03:40, "Felix Yeung" <yeung_fe...@yahoo.com.hk>:
> Dear All,
>
> I’m very new to Lilypond, currently typesetting a document with plainsong 
> notation (with gregorio) and with occasional modern music. I am wondering if 
> you there’s any way to incorporate lilypond scores into my document?
>
> Many thanks for your help!
>
> Felix Yeung
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Re: New to Lilypond - including score in LaTeX

2015-10-08 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel

You have three options:

1) lilypond-book: This is a script that comes with LilyPond which 
enables you to pseudo-include lilypond scores into TeX documents.  It 
preprocesses the document to extract the lilypond relavent bits, runs 
them through lilypond, and then creates a new TeX document where the 
lilypond relavent bits have been replaced by \includegraphics commands.


For more information see:

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/lilypond_002dbook

If going this route and using TeXShop or TeXworks (on Linux or Mac) you 
might find the LilyPond engines for TeXShop useful for streamlining your 
workflow:


https://users.dimi.uniud.it/~nicola.vitacolonna/software/lilypond-texshop/

2) lyluatex: This is a luatex package which duplicates the basic 
functionality (but not all features) of lilypond-book.  Unlike 
lilypond-book, this is not a preprocessor, but rather uses Lua scripts 
to shunt lilypond scores off to lilypond on the fly and then include 
them back into the original TeX document.


For more information see:

https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex

3) manual method: You can also simply run lilypond as normal (or 
possibly with settings that result in png output instead of pdf) on 
input files and then include the resulting scores in your TeX documents 
using packages like pdfpages (for full page inclusions) or graphix (for 
including smaller images).


Personally, I use method 2.

✝
Br. Samuel, OSB
(R. Padraic Springuel)

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New to Lilypond - including score in LaTeX

2015-10-08 Thread Felix Yeung
Dear All,

I’m very new to Lilypond, currently typesetting a document with plainsong 
notation (with gregorio) and with occasional modern music.  I am wondering if 
you there’s any way to incorporate lilypond scores into my document?

Many thanks for your help!

Felix Yeung


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Re: New to Lilypond - including score in LaTeX

2015-10-08 Thread Nick Payne

On 09/10/2015 11:57, Br. Samuel Springuel wrote:

You have three options:

1) lilypond-book: This is a script that comes with LilyPond which 
enables you to pseudo-include lilypond scores into TeX documents. It 
preprocesses the document to extract the lilypond relavent bits, runs 
them through lilypond, and then creates a new TeX document where the 
lilypond relavent bits have been replaced by \includegraphics commands.


For more information see:

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/lilypond_002dbook

If going this route and using TeXShop or TeXworks (on Linux or Mac) 
you might find the LilyPond engines for TeXShop useful for 
streamlining your workflow:


https://users.dimi.uniud.it/~nicola.vitacolonna/software/lilypond-texshop/ 



2) lyluatex: This is a luatex package which duplicates the basic 
functionality (but not all features) of lilypond-book.  Unlike 
lilypond-book, this is not a preprocessor, but rather uses Lua scripts 
to shunt lilypond scores off to lilypond on the fly and then include 
them back into the original TeX document.


For more information see:

https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex

3) manual method: You can also simply run lilypond as normal (or 
possibly with settings that result in png output instead of pdf) on 
input files and then include the resulting scores in your TeX 
documents using packages like pdfpages (for full page inclusions) or 
graphix (for including smaller images).


There is also Lyx (http://www.lyx.org/), a GUI front end to TeX/LaTeX, 
where you can insert Lilypond code in the document and when the document 
is processed Lyx calls lilypond-book to process the code. It comes with 
a sample document lilypond.lyx (in /usr/share/lyx/examples) 
demonstrating the insertion of Lilypond code in a document.


Nick

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-22 Thread Eluze
the moderating team at http://www.lilypondforum.de/ now agrees and has
changed the permissions - I'm glad to announce that /LilyPond deutsch/ will
been deleted soon and work goes on as usual at the link above.

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new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread Eluze
find it at

http://lilypond-deutsch.996767.n3.nabble.com/

Eluze




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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 find it at

 http://lilypond-deutsch.996767.n3.nabble.com/

What's wrong with URL:http://www.lilypondforum.de?  I'm not into web
forums myself, but it seems there is not much sense in spreading them
thinner than necessary?

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread Urs Liska

Am 21.11.2013 11:40, schrieb David Kastrup:

Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:


find it at

http://lilypond-deutsch.996767.n3.nabble.com/

What's wrong with URL:http://www.lilypondforum.de?  I'm not into web
forums myself, but it seems there is not much sense in spreading them
thinner than necessary?


Maybe this?
http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1627.msg9085#msg9085
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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread Eluze
Urs Liska wrote
 Am 21.11.2013 11:40, schrieb David Kastrup:
 Eluze lt;

 eluzew@

 gt; writes:

 find it at

 http://lilypond-deutsch.996767.n3.nabble.com/
 What's wrong with lt;URL:http://www.lilypondforum.degt;?  I'm not into
 web
 forums myself, but it seems there is not much sense in spreading them
 thinner than necessary?

 Maybe this?
 http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1627.msg9085#msg9085

exactly - if there is no change in the setup (specifically not allowing
users to delete other users' contributions) we now have an alternative.

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 Urs Liska wrote
 Am 21.11.2013 11:40, schrieb David Kastrup:
 Eluze lt;

 eluzew@

 gt; writes:

 find it at

 http://lilypond-deutsch.996767.n3.nabble.com/
 What's wrong with lt;URL:http://www.lilypondforum.degt;?  I'm not into
 web
 forums myself, but it seems there is not much sense in spreading them
 thinner than necessary?

 Maybe this?
 http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1627.msg9085#msg9085

 exactly - if there is no change in the setup (specifically not allowing
 users to delete other users' contributions) we now have an alternative.

I am assuming that users can't _randomly_ delete other users'
contributions, but rather can delete a _thread_ started by themselves,
and then this includes any contributions made to this thread?  In that
case, it would make sense not to reply anything of substance to the
threads of self-moderators.

The forum software reminds me of Musikerboard where I have been
banned.  In that case, I protested against the _moderator_ of the
Akkordeon subforum against _editing_ my postings changing their meaning.
That guy cleansed out all of the discussion as fast as he could.  He
really was of the opinion that a moderator's job is to let the forum
appear as if he had written it.  I mean, that guy worked overtime, and
the forum is all harmony and happiness (at least the stuff that is still
available), but wow.  I mean wow.

A single _user_ deleting his own threads seems tame in comparison.

It's one of the reasons I prefer mailing lists and/or Usenet: it's much
harder to throw me out.

Uh, I mean, it's the plain deal, no history munging (SPAM filters don't
count).  So yes, a tool where one can better index and present mailing
lists would be nice.  Yes, scoring is a form of history munging too, but
at least the raw deal is still available.

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread Eluze
David Kastrup wrote
 I am assuming that users can't _randomly_ delete other users'
 contributions, but rather can delete a _thread_ started by themselves,
 and then this includes any contributions made to this thread?  In that
 case, it would make sense not to reply anything of substance to the
 threads of self-moderators.

how else would you reply then - of course one could point to where the
solution of a problem can be found, or start a new thread and write that
link only in the reply... that's too complicated! 

 A single _user_ deleting his own threads seems tame in comparison.

it is! and it's the first time this happened afaik.

I was curious if we could set up a new forum easily. if the moderator
changes these settings (with Nabble you can obviously define what action a
user is allowed to) I will remove this forum, of course.

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/21 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
 Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 David Kastrup wrote
 I am assuming that users can't _randomly_ delete other users'
 contributions, but rather can delete a _thread_ started by themselves,
 and then this includes any contributions made to this thread?  In that
 case, it would make sense not to reply anything of substance to the
 threads of self-moderators.

 how else would you reply then - of course one could point to where the
 solution of a problem can be found, or start a new thread and write that
 link only in the reply... that's too complicated!

 To a recognized trouble maker?  Easiest not to reply at all.

Well, the problem is that usually you don't know if someone is a
troublemaker before answering him.  And not answering until he has
proven himself not to be a troublemaker isn't a viable strategy...

Janke

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Re: new German LilyPond forum

2013-11-21 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 David Kastrup wrote
 I am assuming that users can't _randomly_ delete other users'
 contributions, but rather can delete a _thread_ started by themselves,
 and then this includes any contributions made to this thread?  In that
 case, it would make sense not to reply anything of substance to the
 threads of self-moderators.

 how else would you reply then - of course one could point to where the
 solution of a problem can be found, or start a new thread and write that
 link only in the reply... that's too complicated!

To a recognized trouble maker?  Easiest not to reply at all.

 A single _user_ deleting his own threads seems tame in comparison.

 it is! and it's the first time this happened afaik.

 I was curious if we could set up a new forum easily.

That's always easy.  Transferring a community isn't unless one is
talking about widespread dissatisfaction.

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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels

David Kastrup wrote Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:46 AM

 Uh, no?  df is an abbreviation, but des is a proper pronouncable name
 (if you are Dutch/German, that's the name you use when talking about
 music).  As such, it has a letter combination that is natural to scan.

... even for non-German, non-Dutch speakers.  When I started using
LilyPond some years ago I always used the English encodings, xf and xs,
but now I invariably use the default, xes and xis, when transcribing.
I think that's because they are so much easier to vocalise internally,
making it easier to remember a musical phrase between reading and
typing.

Trevor
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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/19 James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com:
 Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes:

 I think a lot of us simply use the Dutch standard of es for a flat and is
 for a sharp - I certainly do.

 I'll be bold and disagree. G-flat is ges in Dutch (3 characters) and gf in
 English (2 characters). If you're typesetting a piece in D-flat major, the 33%
 redundancy for every black-key note in Dutch will add up quickly.

 I've been dealing with repetitive strain injuries for more than half my life
 now, so I have a rather strong aversion toward extra symbols, such as the s
 in -es and -is, which are identical between flats and sharps and thereby do
 nothing to distinguish them. They take up space but don't /do/ anything in
 return for the extra finger effort. If I were forced to type them, I would
 seek another input method. Fortunately I can just set the language to English
 and then enjoy more efficient input.

I think that the best solution would be to have some special keyboard
entry mode in Frescobaldi (for example, it could be diatonic and
automatically add alterations according to key signature).
I was thinking about something like this.

Janek

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new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Stephanie

Hi all,
I am new to lilypond and have a few basic questions.
1) are there other blind lilypond users?
2) how do i write accidentals in english.
Steph

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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
Stephanie sim.musicsch...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all,
 I am new to lilypond and have a few basic questions.
 1) are there other blind lilypond users?

I know about three who have occasionally posted to the list.  I don't
think any of them is a regular reader of the list, probably because
managing the high volume is even harder when you are blind.

 2) how do i write accidentals in english.

Try the link
URL:http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/writing-pitches#note-names-in-other-languages

hopefully you have a web browser delivering a useful rendition of that
link.  If not, report back.

Basically, you tack on s for sharp and ss or x for double sharp, and
f for flat and ff for double flat.

Note that the default note language is _not_ English but rather Dutch.

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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Greetings,

\language "english

Then -s for sharp and -f for flat. [Leave out the dashes.]

Interestingly, myself and I know many others, prefer the Nederlands -es 
and -is.

See the manual section 1.1.1.

I think there are some other blind users on the list...

Andrew


   	   
   	Stephanie  
  19 August 2013 
10:30 PM
  Hi all,
I am new to lilypond and have a few basic questions.
1) are there other blind lilypond users?
2) how do i write accidentals in english.
Steph




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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/8/19 Stephanie sim.musicsch...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
 I am new to lilypond and have a few basic questions.

Hi Stephanie,

welcome!

 1) are there other blind lilypond users?
Yes
 2) how do i write accidentals in english.
Try one of this settings in your file:
\language english
or
\include english.ly
 Steph


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: Stephanie sim.musicsch...@gmail.com

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: new to lilypond



Hi all,


Hi, Stephanie,


I am new to lilypond and have a few basic questions.
1) are there other blind lilypond users?


We have had a number of other blind users, who have been active on the user 
list in the past, but I've not seen contributions from them recently.



2) how do i write accidentals in english.
Steph



I think a lot of us simply use the Dutch standard of es for a flat and is 
for a sharp - I certainly do.  According to the Notation Reference, f is a 
flat in English and s is a sharp (makes sense).


--
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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread James Harkins
Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes:

 I think a lot of us simply use the Dutch standard of es for a flat and is 
 for a sharp - I certainly do.

I'll be bold and disagree. G-flat is ges in Dutch (3 characters) and gf in 
English (2 characters). If you're typesetting a piece in D-flat major, the 33% 
redundancy for every black-key note in Dutch will add up quickly.

I've been dealing with repetitive strain injuries for more than half my life 
now, so I have a rather strong aversion toward extra symbols, such as the s 
in -es and -is, which are identical between flats and sharps and thereby do 
nothing to distinguish them. They take up space but don't /do/ anything in 
return for the extra finger effort. If I were forced to type them, I would 
seek another input method. Fortunately I can just set the language to English 
and then enjoy more efficient input.

(For longer keywords, Frescobaldi's auto-completion is a lifesaver.)

hjh


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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Andrew Bernard
Greetings,

   	   
   	James Harkins  
  20 August 2013 
12:31 AM
  I'll
 be bold and disagree. G-flat is ges in Dutch (3 characters) and gf in English
 (2 characters). If you're typesetting a piece in D-flat major, the 33% redundancy
 for every black-key note in Dutch will add up quickly.

Avoid D flat major. :-)

  
They take up space but don't /do/ anything in return 
for the extra finger effort. 

  

But they _do_ do something in Nederlands for people whose language it 
is.

Each to his own - the beauty of lilypond.

Andrew


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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread Carl Peterson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Andrew Bernard
andrew.bern...@gmail.comwrote:

 Greetings,

   James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com
  20 August 2013 12:31 AM

 I'll be bold and disagree. G-flat is ges in Dutch (3 characters) and gf in
 English (2 characters). If you're typesetting a piece in D-flat major, the
 33%
 redundancy for every black-key note in Dutch will add up quickly.

 Avoid D flat major. :-)


Or write in C and use a \transpose command, which is what I typically do in
that situation.
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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread James Harkins
On Aug 19, 2013 11:36 PM, Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com wrote:
 They take up space but don't /do/ anything in
 return for the extra finger effort.

 But they _do_ do something in Nederlands for people whose language it is.

Sure, but I was responding to a comment from a native English speaker who
uses Dutch input because... he likes more typing? :-P

Kidding... the real issue is the trade-off between readability and
concision. Actually, despite my complaints about extra keystrokes, in my
SuperCollider coding, I'm coming to favor readability: naming a variable
pitchClass rather than pc, or compare these ways to make an array of random
numbers:

{ 10.rand } ! 20  // !? What's that?

vs

// Even if I don't know anything about SC,
// this is obviously about arrays so I know
// where to look in the help
Array.fill(20, { 10.rand })

In the latter case, SC's code editor has nice auto-completion features, so
the finger cost is not as high as the character count.

For accidentals, df and des are both abbreviations -- favoring concision --
but one is more concise than the other, and neither is inherently more
readable. Of course it's valuable to let users enter notes in the way that
looks comfortable to them, but I think here, there's a rational argument to
be made that the gain in ease of reading is small.

But anyway, with Frescobaldi, I can type \inc RET SPC eng RET  so, easy
enough.

If we wanted efficiency and global readability, we might try db and d#, but
I guess the # would confuse the parser.

hjh
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Re: new to lilypond

2013-08-19 Thread David Kastrup
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:

 For accidentals, df and des are both abbreviations -- favoring
 concision -- but one is more concise than the other, and neither is
 inherently more readable.

Uh, no?  df is an abbreviation, but des is a proper pronouncable name
(if you are Dutch/German, that's the name you use when talking about
music).  As such, it has a letter combination that is natural to scan.

Indeed, English has both dflat as well as df, while Dutch/German has
only des and nothing else.  The multi-word equivalent to d flat would
be d mit einem b-chen but that's kid talk.  No musician would use
that.

Now if you use ds and df often enough, they'll become more than
abbreviations to you, but you still can't easily pronounce them as
non-abbreviations.

 If we wanted efficiency and global readability, we might try db and
 d#, but I guess the # would confuse the parser.

You could use d♭ and d♯ but they are rather cumbersome to type.  And
actually, they are not considerably more readable since they are half
name, half symbol.  While one uses them for chord names, for single
notes they seem sort of unusuable.

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First task for a new Frog (LilyPond bug-hunter)

2009-01-01 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Dear LilyPond users,

You may have seen Graham's request for LilyPond Frogs, who will fix LilyPond
bugs (trying to fix bugs at an average rate of one per month).

For some of you who are anticipating getting involved in bug-hunting, I have
a simple task to get you involved in modifying the LilyPond source code.
Although I could give this task to one person, I'd prefer to split it among
half-a-dozen Frogs or so.

The task is to add documentation strings for all of the undocumented music
functions shown in Notation Reference 6.1.7.  There are approximately 35
undocumented functions.  That leaves about 6 per Frog who chooses to get
involve.

This task will be an easy way to get started.  It involves editing scheme
files which are available in the binary distribution.  No compiling will
need to be done.

You will become familiar with the tools for searching through the source
code to find particular music functions.  You will also become familiar with
editing scheme code and creating patches from the edited scheme code.

For convenience, you may choose to use git, which simplifies the creation of
patches.

You will not need to worry about breaking LilyPond; I will take the
responsibility for reviewing, obtaining approval for, and applying your
patches.

If you're interested in signing up as a Frog for this task or for any other
bug you'd like to chase, please let me know.

Thanks, and Happy New Year!


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Re: First task for a new Frog (LilyPond bug-hunter)

2009-01-01 Thread ian_hulin

Hi Carl,

If this is something I'd be able to do on a Windows system then I'd like to
sign up as a Tadpole (apprentice Frog).  :-)

Cheers.

Ian


Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
 
 Dear LilyPond users,
 
 You may have seen Graham's request for LilyPond Frogs, who will fix
 LilyPond
 bugs (trying to fix bugs at an average rate of one per month).
 
 For some of you who are anticipating getting involved in bug-hunting, I
 have
 a simple task to get you involved in modifying the LilyPond source code.
 Although I could give this task to one person, I'd prefer to split it
 among
 half-a-dozen Frogs or so.
 
 The task is to add documentation strings for all of the undocumented music
 functions shown in Notation Reference 6.1.7.  There are approximately 35
 undocumented functions.  That leaves about 6 per Frog who chooses to get
 involve.
 
 This task will be an easy way to get started.  It involves editing scheme
 files which are available in the binary distribution.  No compiling will
 need to be done.
 
 You will become familiar with the tools for searching through the source
 code to find particular music functions.  You will also become familiar
 with
 editing scheme code and creating patches from the edited scheme code.
 
 For convenience, you may choose to use git, which simplifies the creation
 of
 patches.
 
 You will not need to worry about breaking LilyPond; I will take the
 responsibility for reviewing, obtaining approval for, and applying your
 patches.
 
 If you're interested in signing up as a Frog for this task or for any
 other
 bug you'd like to chase, please let me know.
 
 Thanks, and Happy New Year!
 
 
 Carl Sorensen
 
 
 
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I'm new to lilypond

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
Hi,

I've just started trying out Lilypond and I'm amazed at the quality.

I'm still trying to figure out how to put staves together.
Can anyone help with a problem?
I want to generate piano sheet music with treble and bass.
The treble contains both a melody line and an accompaniment,
with lyrics between the staves following the melody line.

melodyline = \relative c' { ... }
accompaniment = \relative c' { ... }
bass = \relative c' { ... }
lyrics = \lyricmode { ... }

How do I put these together? I've tried looking at the templates
but nothing seems to match a fairly standard sheet music format.
I've pottered around without fully understanding what I'm doing.
Eeither the lyrics disappear or a third stave showing the melody
line appears between the piano staves.

Help!

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Re: I'm new to lilypond

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
I highly recommend reading the tutorial for 2.11.  Even though this is 
the unstable branch, the material in the new tutorial will apply to 2.10 
(or even 2.8 or 2.6), and the new tutorial explains many things much better.


As for the templates, isn't D.2.2 exactly what you want?

Cheers,
- Graham


Raichu wrote:

Hi,

I've just started trying out Lilypond and I'm amazed at the quality.

I'm still trying to figure out how to put staves together.
Can anyone help with a problem?
I want to generate piano sheet music with treble and bass.
The treble contains both a melody line and an accompaniment,
with lyrics between the staves following the melody line.

melodyline = \relative c' { ... }
accompaniment = \relative c' { ... }
bass = \relative c' { ... }
lyrics = \lyricmode { ... }

How do I put these together? I've tried looking at the templates
but nothing seems to match a fairly standard sheet music format.
I've pottered around without fully understanding what I'm doing.
Eeither the lyrics disappear or a third stave showing the melody
line appears between the piano staves.

Help!

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piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
 I highly recommend reading the tutorial for 2.11.

OK thanks I'll have a look at it.

 As for the templates, isn't D.2.2 exactly what you want?

Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music,
two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains
(polyphonically) both the melody line and an accompaniment.

melodyline = \relative c' { ... }
accompaniment = \relative c' { ... }
bass = \relative c' { ... }
lyrics = \lyricmode { ... }

score {
\new GrandStaff 
  \new Staff = upper {
\clef treble
 \melodyline  \\ \accompaniment 
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto ???
  \new Staff = lower { \clef bass \lower }

}

How do I get the lyrics to follow melodyline but without a third
music stave repeating melodyline appearing?

Regards,
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Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/31, Raichu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music,
 two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains
 (polyphonically) both the melody line and an accompaniment.

 melodyline = \relative c' { ... }
 accompaniment = \relative c' { ... }
 bass = \relative c' { ... }
 lyrics = \lyricmode { ... }

 score {
 \new GrandStaff 
   \new Staff = upper {
 \clef treble
  \melodyline  \\ \accompaniment 
   }
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto ???
   \new Staff = lower { \clef bass \lower }
 
 }

It would look more like this:

\score {
  \new GrandStaff 
\new Staff = upper 
  \new Voice = melody \melodyline
  \new Voice = accompaniment \accompaniment
  
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melodyline \yourLyrics
\new Staff = lower { \clef bass \lower }

 }

Notice the two Voice contexts I added inside the upper Staff context;
this way I can give each one a name, and align the lyrics only with
the one I want.

Hope this helps,
Valentin


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Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
  Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music,
  two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains
  (polyphonically) both the melody line and an accompaniment.
 
 It would look more like this:
 
 \score {
   \new GrandStaff 
 \new Staff = upper 
   \new Voice = melody \melodyline
   \new Voice = accompaniment \accompaniment
   
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto melodyline \yourLyrics
 \new Staff = lower { \clef bass \lower }
 
  }

Thanks that's much better.

However the music looks wrong. The stem direction is as if
each voice had the stave to itself. I am getting repeated
warnings about this:

warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns

I need the melody stems pointing up and the accompaniment
stems pointing down.

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Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Raichu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Thanks that's much better.

However the music looks wrong. The stem direction is as if
each voice had the stave to itself. I am getting repeated
warnings about this:

warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns

I need the melody stems pointing up and the accompaniment
stems pointing down.


Try:

\score {
 \new GrandStaff 
   \new Staff = upper 
 \new Voice = melody {\voiceOne \melodyline }
 \new Voice = accompaniment { \voiceTwo \accompaniment }
 
   \new Lyrics \lyricsto melodyline \yourLyrics
   \new Staff = lower { \clef bass \lower }
   
}



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Re: Re:A new freeware LilyPond editor for Windows (Thibaut Chevalier)

2006-07-27 Thread Bart Kummel
Hi Anders,I think you should tell conText to use Unicode. This can be done via the menu Options  Environment options...  Editor. Under Default settings for a new document set File format to Unicode. Existing files can be converted with Tools  Convert Text To...  Unicode. Good luck!
Best regards,Bart Kummel, Hilversum, The NetherlandsOn 7/27/06, anders stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: A new freeware LilyPond editor for Windows

2006-07-27 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Thanks, this highlighter is making my work easier too and increased my
understanding of how lp language works.


One question : Do you know how to use convert-ly under windows ? Is this a
separate program I cannot find or it is a command to add with
lilypond(-windows).exe I did not find ? The doc is only dealing with unix
or
Mac.


I have not had the need for conversion yet because my scores worked fine the
last time I upgraded.  It is a command line just like lp, see section 12.3
of the current manual.  Make sure you've backed-up your files before
conversion


Why? If you use convert-ly -e myfile.ly
then a backup of the original will be saved under the name
myfile.ly~


and that the version number is present in the files you are
converting.


Otherwise, you have to use the --from flag of convert-ly.

  /Mats





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Re: A new freeware LilyPond editor for Windows

2006-07-25 Thread Thibaut Chevalier
Thanks for the information, I have just downloaded ConTEXT and installed your highlighting file and user commands and everything is working very nice. I had endless problems with jEdit so I am glad you told about ConTEXT. I also find ConTEXT far better, particularly to access the different opened files (with the explorer on the left or the tabs).
One question : Do you know how to use convert-ly under windows ? Is this a separate program I cannot find or it is a command to add with lilypond(-windows).exe I did not find ? The doc is only dealing with unix or Mac.
And one suggestion : You should add in your text at the top of the .chl file to turn on the option : Capture console output for the compile user key (F9...), else we don't know what happens (because the windows console auto-close at the end of the compilation).
Anyway thanks very much for your work on the highlighting !Thibaut.On 24/07/06, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello,I just created and uploaded a syntax highlighting file for the ConTEXT
editor.www.context.cxhttp://www.context.cx http://www.context.cxLook in the forum section for the highlighting file I uploaded and some
instructions at the top for setting up the Function keys to do compiles,views, midi, etc.After using jEdit for a while I found ConTEXT to be far, far, far superioron the Windows platform.ConTEXT editor is light and very fast, whereby
jEdit would take 30 seconds or more to open large or many files (over 1meg).(But Java apps generally do run slow on Windows.)Also the jEdithighlighter misses a lot of reserved words.I have included every LilyPond user-public reserved word I can find through
version 2.8.5.Also it will highlight imbedded Scheme code separatelymaking LP proper much easier to read and keep separated from Scheme.Italso separates Context objects from Layout objects, hilights strings,
comments, markup commands, properties, action words like \set and \overridedifferently, etc.I came up with several thousand LP reserved words andcategorized them all, I also tested this hilighter with all the LP
regression and input files.The only minor highlighting glitch I found with ConTEXT is that stringending quotes cannot be on a line by themselves (they must end the stringimmediately, or if they are on their own line they must be preceeded with a
space and not the carriage return)Other than that, this editor is prettysimple and pretty darn good at hilighting LP syntax.I've also had about100 files open simultaneously with no performance problems in it.
As new versions of LP arise I'll add reserved words as needed to thehighlighting file.After installing ConTEXT, just download LilyPond.chl from the forum areaand copy it to:C:\Program Files\ConTEXT\Highlighters
Close and Re-Open ConTEXT.Now whenever you open up .LY files in ConTEXT they will be syntacticallyhighlighted.Then read the blurb I wrote at the top of the LilyPond.chl file to show howto set up your F9 and F10 keys to compile and view your music in the ConTEXT
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A new freeware LilyPond editor for Windows

2006-07-24 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Hello,

I just created and uploaded a syntax highlighting file for the ConTEXT
editor.

www.context.cx

http://www.context.cx http://www.context.cx 

Look in the forum section for the highlighting file I uploaded and some
instructions at the top for setting up the Function keys to do compiles,
views, midi, etc.

After using jEdit for a while I found ConTEXT to be far, far, far superior
on the Windows platform.  ConTEXT editor is light and very fast, whereby
jEdit would take 30 seconds or more to open large or many files (over 1
meg).  (But Java apps generally do run slow on Windows.)  Also the jEdit
highlighter misses a lot of reserved words.

I have included every LilyPond user-public reserved word I can find through
version 2.8.5.  Also it will highlight imbedded Scheme code separately
making LP proper much easier to read and keep separated from Scheme.  It
also separates Context objects from Layout objects, hilights strings,
comments, markup commands, properties, action words like \set and \override
differently, etc.  I came up with several thousand LP reserved words and
categorized them all, I also tested this hilighter with all the LP
regression and input files.

The only minor highlighting glitch I found with ConTEXT is that string
ending quotes cannot be on a line by themselves (they must end the string
immediately, or if they are on their own line they must be preceeded with a
space and not the carriage return)  Other than that, this editor is pretty
simple and pretty darn good at hilighting LP syntax.  I've also had about
100 files open simultaneously with no performance problems in it.

As new versions of LP arise I'll add reserved words as needed to the
highlighting file.

After installing ConTEXT, just download LilyPond.chl from the forum area
and copy it to:

C:\Program Files\ConTEXT\Highlighters

Close and Re-Open ConTEXT.

Now whenever you open up .LY files in ConTEXT they will be syntactically
highlighted.

Then read the blurb I wrote at the top of the LilyPond.chl file to show how
to set up your F9 and F10 keys to compile and view your music in the ConTEXT
command shell.

Have fun
Rick



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Re: New to Lilypond...many questions! Simple chord placement ? to start

2006-03-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Please include a copy of the code you have tried (in the
mail body if you don't manage to attach it any other way).
Otherwise it's very hard to guess what you did.

  /Mats


Edward Ardzinski wrote:

I am using 2.6.5 on a WIndows XP-home box.  Pretty new computer, no issues in 
the 6 months I've been beating it.


I tried to post some code I lifted the example below from one of the examples 
in the documentation, but the submitter form kept saying I was top posting.  
I'll describe the issue. If I uncomment either the bass clef of the key 
signature, the chord symbols will print below the staff for me.  Not critical, 
but it looks better for doing a lead sheet (which is a large part of what I'm 
seeing myself do with this program) having the chords on top, and the first 
tune I am working on is in B major...


Is there a way for me to ensure the chord symbols print above the stave?  Bug 
on Windows eXpect Problems??  Especially this cheeze Home Edition?


I am just expecting a little too much of myself after playing in the pond for 
a couple of days? :-)


I would be happy to send an e-mail with an attached .ly file to show what's 
happening.


Thanks



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New to Lilypond...many questions! Simple chord placement ? to start

2006-03-14 Thread Edward Ardzinski
I am using 2.6.5 on a WIndows XP-home box.  Pretty new computer, no issues in 
the 6 months I've been beating it.

I tried to post some code I lifted the example below from one of the examples 
in the documentation, but the submitter form kept saying I was top posting.  
I'll describe the issue. If I uncomment either the bass clef of the key 
signature, the chord symbols will print below the staff for me.  Not critical, 
but it looks better for doing a lead sheet (which is a large part of what I'm 
seeing myself do with this program) having the chords on top, and the first 
tune I am working on is in B major...

Is there a way for me to ensure the chord symbols print above the stave?  Bug 
on Windows eXpect Problems??  Especially this cheeze Home Edition?

I am just expecting a little too much of myself after playing in the pond for 
a couple of days? :-)

I would be happy to send an e-mail with an attached .ly file to show what's 
happening.

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Re: New to Lilypond...many questions! Simple chord placement ? to start

2006-03-14 Thread Geoff Horton
 I tried to post some code I lifted the example below from one of the examples
 in the documentation, but the submitter form kept saying I was top posting.

What sort of changes did you make to the code from the documentation?


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New package: lilypond-1.5.73-1

2002-08-16 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen


LilyPond, the GNU project music typesetter, has been included in the
Cygwin distribution.

It's packaged in two parts, lilypond and lilypond-doc.

LilyPond prints beautiful sheet music. It produces music notation from
a description file.  It excels at typesetting classical music, but you
can also print pop-songs.

LilyPond input is plain text.  So, you can use your favorite text
editor to enter it (yes, both are included in Cygwin), you can put it
in email or embed it in an article.

After a successful installation of lilypond (and its dependencies,
notably guile, python, tetex), you should be able to run, eg,

ly2dvi -p /usr/doc/lilypond-1.5.73-1/input/example-1

which should produce a simple piece of sheet music as:

example-1.dvi
example-1.ps
example-1.pdf

If you install XFree86 tetex-x11 and ghostscript-x11, you may even
view the output just like you would do on UNIX:

xdvi example-1.dvi 

To view the output in the Windows, non-XFree enviroment, you need a
PostScript viewer (it seems that gv is not yet available for Cygwin).
You can find a plain Windows one here: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost .
After installing Ghostscript and GSView, you may do:

gsview32 example-1.ps # view
gsview32 /s example-1.ps  # print

To get started, see the Tutorial at:

http://lilypond.org/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Tutorial.html

or, after installing the lilypond-doc package, your local copy at
(check your Cygwin prefix):


file:///c:/cygwin/usr/doc/lilypond-1.5.73-1/html/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Tutorial.html

Please send questions or comments on the LilyPond Cygwin package or
installation to the Cygwin mailing list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, if you're having non-Cygwin specific problems related to
LilyPond, please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please do not email
the authors directly.

Enjoy,
Jan.


INSTALLATION:

Note: the lilypond.org Cygwin mirror has been discontinued.

To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on
the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to your
system.  Save it and run setup, answer the questions and pick up
'lilypond' from the 'Publishing' category.  Find 'lilypond-doc' in the
'Doc' category.

Note that downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka cygwin.com) aren't
allowed due to bandwidth limitations. This means that you will need
to find a mirror which has this update.

In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
is a reliable high bandwidth connection, and already up to date.

In Japan, use ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/gnu/gnu-win32/ .

In Denmark, http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/cygwin/ is usually pretty good.

In the UK,
http://programming.ccp14.ac.uk/ftp-mirror/programming/cygwin/pub/cygwin/
is usually up-to-date within 48 hours.

If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package
you can either wait for the site to be updated or find another
mirror.

Please send questions or comments to the Cygwin mailing list at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .  If you want to subscribe go to:
http://cygwin.com/lists.html .  I would appreciate if you would use
this mailing list rather than emailing me directly.  This includes
ideas and comments about the setup utility or Cygwin in general.

If you want to make a point or ask a question the Cygwin mailing
list is the appropriate place.


Requirements and DLLs.

TeTeX and LilyPond depend on a number of library packages, but as it
seems, they sometimes do not get selected automagically.

teTeX
  requires: ash cygwin ed grep jpeg libkpathsea3 libncurses6 libpng12 tiff
  sed termcap zlib
  
LilyPond
  requires: bash libguile14 libiconv2 libintl2 libkpathsea3 python
  tetex-bin, tetex-tiny or tetex-base

  DLL  Package
  cygguile-14.dll  libguile14 
  cygintl-2.dlllibintl2
  cygiconv-2.dll   libiconv2
  cygltdl-3.dlllibltdl3
  cygpcre.dll  pcre
  cygpng12.dll libpng12
  cygtiff3.dll tiff

Also, the more general info on missing DLLs may be helpful:

http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_4.html#SEC32
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg01619.html


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