Re: opening files with Notepad
Did you try opening the website files in XEmacs? Yes, they open in XEmacs just fine--interesting, didn't know about the *nix format. -david. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
David Tweet wrote: That's weird, I just opened wtk-1-fugue2.ly http://wtk-1-fugue2.ly/ (one of the examples from the website) in Notepad and it seems like the newline character is getting printed as an empty rectangle(???). That's because the files on the website are *nix text files. Their lines end with a newline character (line feed). NotePad (DOS) expects lines to end with CRLF (carriage return, line feed) and doesn't expect line feed alone so it replaces with the symbol for non-printable control character (ASCII or ANSI code 32). To use those files on MS Windows you need to convert all the line endings from *nix to DOS. There are a number of simple programs to convert the files or get an editor like EditPad Lite which can do the conversion. The files I made in emacs display fine though. I use XEmacs on Windows XP, so I can get all the fun syntax highlighting colors. For Windows I would recommend it over Gnu Emacs, just because it allows you to take advantage of WinXP's ClearType font smoothing ( _much_ easier on the eyes ). You can get it for free at http://www.xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ Did you try opening the website files in XEmacs? Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
Try opening it in wordpad once, then save it without making any changes, close the files and open it in notepad. Even though Wordpad is a Word Processor and not a Text Editor, when you open a text file in it, it opens it in text mode, it won't add any unwanted formating to the file. Still I use Notepad or Lite Edit or jedit. Lite Edit gives the line numbers which is useful when responding to the error messages from Lilypond, jedit is a Programmers Text Editor that will let you know if you misspelled a key word and you can run Lilypond from it, all of which is only useful only after you figure out how to set it up. Meanwhile, I like NotePad. It is simple and straight forward, opens amazingly fast and as long as I indent properly, I never need any more visual formatting (not the kind from a Word Processor) to make my files clear. Additionally, I do use jedit to save my lilypond file to UTF-8 text format if I am using any umlauts in my titles. jedit really is the best solution once you figure out how to tap into its power, but I keep going back the NotePad just because it opens the file faster. Actually, I'd like to find a utility that changes my windows endings back to unix style line endings for when I make a patch on the sources. Stephen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
Paul Scott wrote: Daniel Ballenger wrote: Try wordpad. I don't think notepad cares about \n (newlines). Thus causing your run-together problem WordPad isn't really a text editor. I don't know how LilyPad is related to EditPad (they look about the same) but there are several good free text editors. I use EditPad Lite which knows how to convert line termination between DOS and *nix (and Mac). Paul Scott If you have Java installed, you might want to try installing jEdit (http://www.jedit.org/) which has plugins that can handle syntax highlighting etc. for Lilypond. Microsoft-built editors in general will choke when opening documents created on Unix-like systems (including Linux OSX), because the end-of-line character(s) for Microsoft is CR+LF while Unix uses LF. (And to top it off, old Macs used CR.) Any decent programmer's editor can gracefully make the conversion between the styles. Also, if you're using Lilypond = 2.5, jEdit can save documents in UTF-8 format, which lets you include any Unicode character in your files, not just those accessible from your American or Western European keyboard. --Daniel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
I use something called TestEd in XP, it's free and is more powerful than notepad etc... and works fine for input editting ly files. Jay Paul Scott wrote: Daniel Ballenger wrote: Try wordpad. I don't think notepad cares about \n (newlines). Thus causing your run-together problem WordPad isn't really a text editor. I don't know how LilyPad is related to EditPad (they look about the same) but there are several good free text editors. I use EditPad Lite which knows how to convert line termination between DOS and *nix (and Mac). Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Childhood is a Journey not a race- Emma Sadinsky aged 8 Jay Hamilton Sound and Silence 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
That's weird, I just opened wtk-1-fugue2.ly (one of the examples from the website) in Notepad and it seems like the newline character is getting printed as an empty rectangle(???). The files I made in emacs display fine though. I use XEmacs on Windows XP, so I can get all the fun syntax highlighting colors. For Windows I would recommend it over Gnu Emacs, just because it allows you to take advantage of WinXP's ClearType font smoothing ( _much_ easier on the eyes ). You can get it for free at http://www.xemacs.org Other things like jedit might be better or easier, I just haven't tried them. -david. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
opening files with Notepad
Taking my first baby steps with Lily, so forgive the syntax/grammer of the question: Using NotePad, I've entered a few short samples from the user's manual, even edited in a few changes, etc., and all goes well, saved the files as something like Test.ly and run the compiler, the output comes out great in a .pdf file. The problem is that when I then reopen the source file in Notepad, everything looks different, all run together and basically un-readable. I've also gone to the Mutopia site and downloaded a couple of examples. They look fine, print fine, but again when I open the source code files in Notepad (I've also tried MSWord), the same thing happens. What am I missing here? BTW: I'm running Windows XP Pro. Thanks. -LK Larry Kent Tampa, FL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
Try wordpad. I don't think notepad cares about \n (newlines). Thus causing your run-together problem -Daniel On 7/12/05, Larry Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking my first baby steps with Lily, so forgive the syntax/grammer of the question: Using NotePad, I've entered a few short samples from the user's manual, even edited in a few changes, etc., and all goes well, saved the files as something like Test.ly and run the compiler, the output comes out great in a .pdf file. The problem is that when I then reopen the source file in Notepad, everything looks different, all run together and basically un-readable. I've also gone to the Mutopia site and downloaded a couple of examples. They look fine, print fine, but again when I open the source code files in Notepad (I've also tried MSWord), the same thing happens. What am I missing here? BTW: I'm running Windows XP Pro. Thanks. -LK Larry Kent Tampa, FL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Daniel Ballenger http://denetron.com Sr. Systems Administrator - Denetron LLC ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: opening files with Notepad
Daniel Ballenger wrote: Try wordpad. I don't think notepad cares about \n (newlines). Thus causing your run-together problem WordPad isn't really a text editor. I don't know how LilyPad is related to EditPad (they look about the same) but there are several good free text editors. I use EditPad Lite which knows how to convert line termination between DOS and *nix (and Mac). Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
