Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-08 Thread Fathi Boudra
On 8 September 2011 14:24, Alexander Sack  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Christian Robottom Reis 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:53:06AM +0300, Fathi Boudra wrote:
>> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ had received some lifting. It's still a
>> > work
>> > in progress but it should resolved some of the issue raised. Please,
>> > take a
>> > look. feedback is welcome.
>>
>> I know. The feedback I gave below was from the updated page, so it
>> applies right now. ;-)
>>
>> Finally, can we please not have a dead "Select a release..." menuitem?
>> It's trivial to leave selected in the menu the release currently being
>> displayed.
>>
>
> kiko: all the input provided to me has been forwarded and is being worked on
> -- including this.
>
> fabo: should we update the blueprint or add a new one to reflect the initial
> improvements we agreed with ian?

I'm going to update the current blueprint. It's on my todo for today.

Cheers,

Fathi

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Sack
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:53:06AM +0300, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ had received some lifting. It's still a
> work
> > in progress but it should resolved some of the issue raised. Please, take
> a
> > look. feedback is welcome.
>
> I know. The feedback I gave below was from the updated page, so it
> applies right now. ;-)
>
> Finally, can we please not have a dead "Select a release..." menuitem?
> It's trivial to leave selected in the menu the release currently being
> displayed.
>
>
kiko: all the input provided to me has been forwarded and is being worked on
-- including this.

fabo: should we update the blueprint or add a new one to reflect the initial
improvements we agreed with ian?

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-08 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:53:06AM +0300, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ had received some lifting. It's still a work
> in progress but it should resolved some of the issue raised. Please, take a
> look. feedback is welcome.

I know. The feedback I gave below was from the updated page, so it
applies right now. ;-)

Finally, can we please not have a dead "Select a release..." menuitem?
It's trivial to leave selected in the menu the release currently being
displayed.

> On 7 September 2011 01:13, Christian Robottom Reis  wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:18:18AM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> >> a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
> >> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?  This is a concern,
> >> because these links contain the _only_ deliverables for certain
> >> platform and filesystem combinations.  The wiki release page itself is
> >> not easily findable without going to the wiki.
> >
> > It's not intentional, but we chose to keep them out for a bit to try and
> > figure out how to keep the LEBs "special". But this time around, you can
> > see them live:
> >
> >    http://www.linaro.org/downloads/
> >
> > I did mention today to Alexander that I would like to see the "Download
> > for:" column cleaned up -- perhaps by moving the set to be split across
> > rows, or something else visually smart.
> >
> >> b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
> >> the list of known issues.  Shouldn't this page be linked from
> >> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?  I
> >> don't see how to get to it at present.  A visitor won't know that they
> >> have to go to the wiki for this information.
> >
> > It's now linked, but I somehow feel that we should have these visible
> > from the main download page. Perhaps as a set of tabs inside Downloads
> > -- Downloads, Release Notes? Or Dave, do you think the way we have it
> > now is good enough for the moment?
> >
> >> c) The known issues list on the wiki release page doesn't seem include
> >> all the issues reported during testing.  Will these get propagated, or
> >> is it the responsibility of testers to add the relevant information to
> >> the known issues list themselves?
> >
> > That's a good point. I may have missed a reply to this -- what's the
> > plan?
> >
> 
> There isn't any plan. I replied in a previous mail what's the process to
> escalate a bug to the known issues list. In addition, we added the following
> link on the downloads website: "Full details of this release, including
> detailed release highlights and known issues, can be found on the release 
> pages
> of our Wiki."
> 
> >> d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
> >> or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
> >> this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
> >> Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
> >> needs to be included on
> >> https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
> >> -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
> >> appropriate page?
> >
> > That's sort of what I am saying with my comment above about cleaning up
> > the "Download for:" column. Instead of stapling them all together, how
> > about:
> >
> >    Nano    Natty   11.08      
> >            TI Beagleboard          
> >            ARM Versatile           
> >            ST-Ericsson Snowball    
> >
> > I realize the download link isn't exactly unique per-board and that we
> > have no way of fixing that in the near term. But at least the design
> > aboves is a step forward.
> >
> > Finally, WTF is "Android Machine"? :-)
> > --
> > Christian Robottom Reis, Engineering VP
> > Brazil (GMT-3) | [+55] 16 9112 6430 | [+1] 612 216 4935
> > Linaro.org: Open Source Software for ARM SoCs
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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-07 Thread Fathi Boudra
On 7 September 2011 01:13, Christian Robottom Reis  wrote:
> Finally, WTF is "Android Machine"? :-)

It should be Android Mainline. fixed now.

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-06 Thread Fathi Boudra
@dave, all

http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ had received some lifting. It's still a work
in progress but it should resolved some of the issue raised. Please, take a
look. feedback is welcome.

On 7 September 2011 01:13, Christian Robottom Reis  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:18:18AM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
>> a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
>> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?  This is a concern,
>> because these links contain the _only_ deliverables for certain
>> platform and filesystem combinations.  The wiki release page itself is
>> not easily findable without going to the wiki.
>
> It's not intentional, but we chose to keep them out for a bit to try and
> figure out how to keep the LEBs "special". But this time around, you can
> see them live:
>
>    http://www.linaro.org/downloads/
>
> I did mention today to Alexander that I would like to see the "Download
> for:" column cleaned up -- perhaps by moving the set to be split across
> rows, or something else visually smart.
>
>> b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
>> the list of known issues.  Shouldn't this page be linked from
>> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?  I
>> don't see how to get to it at present.  A visitor won't know that they
>> have to go to the wiki for this information.
>
> It's now linked, but I somehow feel that we should have these visible
> from the main download page. Perhaps as a set of tabs inside Downloads
> -- Downloads, Release Notes? Or Dave, do you think the way we have it
> now is good enough for the moment?
>
>> c) The known issues list on the wiki release page doesn't seem include
>> all the issues reported during testing.  Will these get propagated, or
>> is it the responsibility of testers to add the relevant information to
>> the known issues list themselves?
>
> That's a good point. I may have missed a reply to this -- what's the
> plan?
>

There isn't any plan. I replied in a previous mail what's the process to
escalate a bug to the known issues list. In addition, we added the following
link on the downloads website: "Full details of this release, including
detailed release highlights and known issues, can be found on the release pages
of our Wiki."

>> d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
>> or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
>> this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
>> Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
>> needs to be included on
>> https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
>> -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
>> appropriate page?
>
> That's sort of what I am saying with my comment above about cleaning up
> the "Download for:" column. Instead of stapling them all together, how
> about:
>
>    Nano    Natty   11.08      
>            TI Beagleboard          
>            ARM Versatile           
>            ST-Ericsson Snowball    
>
> I realize the download link isn't exactly unique per-board and that we
> have no way of fixing that in the near term. But at least the design
> aboves is a step forward.
>
> Finally, WTF is "Android Machine"? :-)
> --
> Christian Robottom Reis, Engineering VP
> Brazil (GMT-3) | [+55] 16 9112 6430 | [+1] 612 216 4935
> Linaro.org: Open Source Software for ARM SoCs

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-09-06 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:18:18AM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?  This is a concern,
> because these links contain the _only_ deliverables for certain
> platform and filesystem combinations.  The wiki release page itself is
> not easily findable without going to the wiki.

It's not intentional, but we chose to keep them out for a bit to try and
figure out how to keep the LEBs "special". But this time around, you can
see them live:

http://www.linaro.org/downloads/

I did mention today to Alexander that I would like to see the "Download
for:" column cleaned up -- perhaps by moving the set to be split across
rows, or something else visually smart.

> b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
> the list of known issues.  Shouldn't this page be linked from
> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?  I
> don't see how to get to it at present.  A visitor won't know that they
> have to go to the wiki for this information.

It's now linked, but I somehow feel that we should have these visible
from the main download page. Perhaps as a set of tabs inside Downloads
-- Downloads, Release Notes? Or Dave, do you think the way we have it
now is good enough for the moment?

> c) The known issues list on the wiki release page doesn't seem include
> all the issues reported during testing.  Will these get propagated, or
> is it the responsibility of testers to add the relevant information to
> the known issues list themselves?

That's a good point. I may have missed a reply to this -- what's the
plan?

> d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
> or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
> this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
> Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
> needs to be included on
> https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
> -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
> appropriate page?

That's sort of what I am saying with my comment above about cleaning up
the "Download for:" column. Instead of stapling them all together, how
about:

NanoNatty   11.08  
TI Beagleboard  
ARM Versatile   
ST-Ericsson Snowball

I realize the download link isn't exactly unique per-board and that we
have no way of fixing that in the near term. But at least the design
aboves is a step forward.

Finally, WTF is "Android Machine"? :-)
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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
On 26 August 2011 16:26, Dave Martin  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dave Martin  wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> the impact of bugs in releases.  For example, bug 824545 means that
>> the user will get an unbootable image on some boards by following our
>> instructions -- that feels like the kind of thing that definitely needs to be
>> visible in the release notes, even though from a technical standpoint we know
>> the issue is actually rather trivial and easily fixed.
>
> Just to follow up on this, I see that particular bug is fixed in the
> final release.
> So it may be that we have no issues missing from the release notes
> after all.

Yes, it has been fixed and discussed at the release-meeting yesterday:
http://irclogs.linaro.org/meeting-logs/linaro-meeting/2011/linaro-meeting.2011-08-25-16.03.log.html

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dave Martin  wrote:

[...]

> the impact of bugs in releases.  For example, bug 824545 means that
> the user will get an unbootable image on some boards by following our
> instructions -- that feels like the kind of thing that definitely needs to be
> visible in the release notes, even though from a technical standpoint we know
> the issue is actually rather trivial and easily fixed.

Just to follow up on this, I see that particular bug is fixed in the
final release.
So it may be that we have no issues missing from the release notes
after all.

Cheers
---Dave

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Fathi Boudra 
> wrote:>
> > It assumes you know l-m-b and know where/how to get it. At this point,
> > you reached the step 3: step by step instructions to flash the board,
> > including how to get the tools.
>
> True. I guess we'll reach a day where all that would be need is a
> pointer to L-M-B. It's already looking really useful. :)
>
>
That would be fantastic, indeed!!

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
On 26 August 2011 14:38, Amit Kucheria  wrote:
>> > a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
>> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?
>>
>> Yes, it is. We made the choice to promote only the officially supported 
>> builds
>> on the downloads page. Developers and Community Builds (DCBs) are not 
>> officially
>> supported.
>
> Developer images are probably the most used by kernel developers. Perhaps a
> link to a page listing all miscellaneous images would be useful for people
> walking off the street to check out Linaro aka. not subscribed to our mailing
> lists. You already have that section on the wiki release page.

Asac reply covers this: the new download page will include the
developer and community builds similar to the wiki page with a
prominent warning.

>> > d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
>> > or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
>> > this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
>> > Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
>> > needs to be included on
>> > https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
>> > -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
>> > appropriate page?
>>
>> I have the same concern. We have per board instructions:
>>  * on the forms used for testing. e.g. http://bit.ly/pFnQQh
>>  * on releases.l.o
>>    e.g. http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-n/ubuntu/leb-panda/11.08/
>>
>> IMO, the image installation should be board specific. The generic 
>> instructions
>> are good but I would prefer to have the following workflow:
>> 1. I have this board (identify board)
>> 2. I need these images (identify images for the board)
>> 3. Here's the correct step by step instructions to flash my board
>>
>> Now, we need to the improve the image installation to achieve that...
>
> Isn't Linaro-Media-Builder (fetch_image_ui.py) meant to remove the need for
> having so many different pages of instructions?

It assumes you know l-m-b and know where/how to get it. At this point,
you reached the step 3: step by step instructions to flash the board,
including how to get the tools.

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Fathi Boudra wrote:

> > The wiki release page itself is not easily findable without going to the
> wiki.
>
>
> Really? It's clearly mentionned on the release announcement, posted on
> planet.
> Obviously, if somebody miss the announce and goes directly to the website
> downloads page, he won't get the DCBs. Is it your point?
>
>
> b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
> > the list of known issues.Shouldn't this page be linked from
> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?
>
> It can probably be added to the block on the right. IMO the known issues
> are
> part of the release notes, I don't see them on the downloads page.
>
>
new download page will be more "release focussed" and as that will also link
to the release announce wiki.


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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Fathi Boudra wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 26 August 2011 12:18, Dave Martin  wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > A few questions--
> >
> > a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?
>
> Yes, it is. We made the choice to promote only the officially supported
> builds
> on the downloads page. Developers and Community Builds (DCBs) are not
> officially
> supported.
>
>
the new download page will include the developer and community builds
similar to the wiki page with a prominent warning. I anticipate that we get
there in the next week or two.

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Amit Kucheria
On 11 Aug 26, Fathi Boudra wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 26 August 2011 12:18, Dave Martin  wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > A few questions--
> >
> > a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
> > http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?
> 
> Yes, it is. We made the choice to promote only the officially supported builds
> on the downloads page. Developers and Community Builds (DCBs) are not 
> officially
> supported.

Developer images are probably the most used by kernel developers. Perhaps a
link to a page listing all miscellaneous images would be useful for people
walking off the street to check out Linaro aka. not subscribed to our mailing
lists. You already have that section on the wiki release page.



> > d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
> > or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
> > this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
> > Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
> > needs to be included on
> > https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
> > -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
> > appropriate page?
> 
> I have the same concern. We have per board instructions:
>  * on the forms used for testing. e.g. http://bit.ly/pFnQQh
>  * on releases.l.o
>e.g. http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-n/ubuntu/leb-panda/11.08/
> 
> IMO, the image installation should be board specific. The generic instructions
> are good but I would prefer to have the following workflow:
> 1. I have this board (identify board)
> 2. I need these images (identify images for the board)
> 3. Here's the correct step by step instructions to flash my board
> 
> Now, we need to the improve the image installation to achieve that...

Isn't Linaro-Media-Builder (fetch_image_ui.py) meant to remove the need for
having so many different pages of instructions?

/Amit

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Fathi Boudra
Hi,

On 26 August 2011 12:18, Dave Martin  wrote:
> Hi there
>
> A few questions--
>
> a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?

Yes, it is. We made the choice to promote only the officially supported builds
on the downloads page. Developers and Community Builds (DCBs) are not officially
supported.

> This is a concern,because these links contain the _only_ deliverables for
> certain platform and filesystem combinations.

Thanks for raising your concern. I don't have a good answer yet. The website is
being worked on and the goal is to get rid of the wiki release page, which is a
convenient way to present the release and get the related information today.
We'll see in which way the website could be improved to resolve your concern.

> The wiki release page itself is not easily findable without going to the wiki.

Really? It's clearly mentionned on the release announcement, posted on planet.
Obviously, if somebody miss the announce and goes directly to the website
downloads page, he won't get the DCBs. Is it your point?

> b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
> the list of known issues.Shouldn't this page be linked from
> http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?

It can probably be added to the block on the right. IMO the known issues are
part of the release notes, I don't see them on the downloads page.

> I don't see how to get to it at present. A visitor won't know that they
> have to go to the wiki for this information.

I think that the main problem here is that we use the release notes as the main
portal for the release. In your use case, somebody using the website downloads
page to get into Linaro won't get the release notes and will miss important
information (DCBs, known issues, etc...).

> c) The known issues list on the wiki release page doesn't seem include
> all the issues reported during testing.  Will these get propagated, or
> is it the responsibility of testers to add the relevant information to
> the known issues list themselves?

The known issues list includes all the critical/high issues raised to the
release team. It means that any individual need to subscribe linaro-release
to the issue to have it under our radar. Also, I go through the testing reports
to gather the known issues. Medium/low issues are skipped because the list
could be quite long with the number of components we have.

> d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
> or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
> this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
> Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
> needs to be included on
> https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
> -- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
> appropriate page?

I have the same concern. We have per board instructions:
 * on the forms used for testing. e.g. http://bit.ly/pFnQQh
 * on releases.l.o
   e.g. http://releases.linaro.org/platform/linaro-n/ubuntu/leb-panda/11.08/

IMO, the image installation should be board specific. The generic instructions
are good but I would prefer to have the following workflow:
1. I have this board (identify board)
2. I need these images (identify images for the board)
3. Here's the correct step by step instructions to flash my board

Now, we need to the improve the image installation to achieve that...

> Cheers
> ---Dave

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Re: Linaro 11.08 released

2011-08-26 Thread Dave Martin
Hi there

A few questions--

a) Is the omission of the "Developers and Community Builds" links from
http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ intentional?  This is a concern,
because these links contain the _only_ deliverables for certain
platform and filesystem combinations.  The wiki release page itself is
not easily findable without going to the wiki.

b) The release page on the wiki contains important information like
the list of known issues.  Shouldn't this page be linked from
http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ or some other prominent location?  I
don't see how to get to it at present.  A visitor won't know that they
have to go to the wiki for this information.

c) The known issues list on the wiki release page doesn't seem include
all the issues reported during testing.  Will these get propagated, or
is it the responsibility of testers to add the relevant information to
the known issues list themselves?

d) For vexpress specifically, there is no link from the release pages
or downloads to the specific installation instructions applicable to
this board.  Even I find these difficult to find without bookmarking.
Because that information is very board-specific, I don't think it
needs to be included on
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
-- but can we at least have a link on there pointing to the
appropriate page?

Cheers
---Dave

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Fathi Boudra  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Linaro Team is pleased to announce the release of Linaro 11.08.
>
> 11.08 is the Linaro’s third release delivered on the new monthly cadence.
> Once again, this release includes components delivered by all Working Groups,
> Landing Teams and Platform Teams, bringing the best of Linaro Technology
> integrated on top of Android and Ubuntu based images.
>
> In total this makes an impressive thirty components and two platform builds
> from all Linaro engineering teams in one shot. And again, most of this comes
> nicely integrated into Android and Ubuntu platform builds. This release made
> it again hard to select a handful of highlights from a list of roughly
> 80 deliverables that went into this release.
>
> However, if we had to choose we would like to emphasize the update of
> linux-linaro to the 3.0.3 stable kernel including the merge of 3.1-rc1 core 
> ARM
> updates, Linaro GCC 4.6 2011.08 release based on latest upstream version, and
> Linaro Cross Toolchain 2011.07 builds. In addition, the Android Team delivers
> the enablement of all of our primary boards, compiled with the Linaro 11.08
> toolchain release based on GCC 4.6 and running Android 2.3.5.
>
> We encourage everybody to use the 11.08 release. The download links for all
> images and components are available on our release page:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/1108/Release
>
> See the detailed highlights of this release to get a better overview of what
> was done by the individual teams. The release details are linked from
> the "Details" column for each release artifact on the release information:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/1108/Release#Release_Information
>
> Using the Android-based images
> ==
>
> The Android-based images come in three parts: system, userdata and boot.
> These need to be combined to form a complete Android install. For an
> explanation of how to do this please see:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Android/ImageInstallation
>
> If you are interested in getting the source and building these images
> yourself please see the following pages:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Android/GetSource
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Android/BuildSource
>
> Using the Ubuntu-based images
> =
>
> The Ubuntu-based images consist of two parts. The first part is a hardware
> pack, which can be found under the hwpacks directory and contains hardware
> specific packages (such as the kernel and bootloader). The second part is
> the rootfs, which is combined with the hardware pack to create a complete
> image. For more information on how to create an image please see:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/Ubuntu/ImageInstallation
>
> Getting involved
> 
>
> More information on Linaro can be found on our websites:
>
>  * Homepage: http://www.linaro.org
>  * Wiki: http://wiki.linaro.org
>
> Also subscribe to the important Linaro mailing lists and join our IRC
> channels to stay on top of Linaro developments:
>
>  * Announcements:
>   http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-announce
>  * Development:
>   http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev
>  * IRC:
>   #linaro on irc.linaro.org or irc.freenode.net
>   #linaro-android irc.linaro.org or irc.freenode.net
>
> Known issues with this release
> ==
>
> For any errata issues, please see:
>
>  http://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/1108/Release#Known_Issues
>
> Bug reports for this release should be filed in Launchpad against the
> individual packa