Re: Since we're on the topic of bugs

2002-11-12 Thread Mamão - Toolshed
This use to happen when I had the wrong slash in the directory separation 
while browsing beetween dir's ..
when I changed to the "\" Backslash, it started to work fine.


But still, sometimes it happened anyway (maybe some scatered wrong programming)

and it was under director 7 (never did a big project like that in D8 or 8.5)


Luiz




At 03:48 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Anyone know if there's a cure to the periodic "This movie was created with
an older version of Director..." bug? It's been happening quite frequently
to me lately, and has really gotten under my skin (each alert doesn't really
chew up that much time, but it's a cumulative annoyance).

-Kurt

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Re: Since we're on the topic of bugs

2002-11-12 Thread Penworks Corporation

Um, convert it to the current version?

At 03:48 PM 11/12/02, Kurt Griffin wrote:

Anyone know if there's a cure to the periodic "This movie was created with
an older version of Director..." bug? It's been happening quite frequently
to me lately, and has really gotten under my skin (each alert doesn't really
chew up that much time, but it's a cumulative annoyance).

-Kurt

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Since we're on the topic of bugs

2002-11-12 Thread Kurt Griffin
Anyone know if there's a cure to the periodic "This movie was created with
an older version of Director..." bug? It's been happening quite frequently
to me lately, and has really gotten under my skin (each alert doesn't really
chew up that much time, but it's a cumulative annoyance).

-Kurt

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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks

Hmm. I might have to use open with, because I just tried it with bud, and 
it too returned some #size handler problem. I'm thinking this is an under 
the hood windows problem, ie maybe launching the program is returning 
something to director that doesn't know what to do with it...

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RE: attn: grimmwerks- html printing with POMlite

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks

Well then I'd suggest creating an image of the text you want at something 
like 4 sizes larger than you'd print, and then print the large image sized 
down to actual print size - it _might_ help. Also check silly stuff like 
member(x).antialiased, etc.

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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread Kerry Thompson


As more info - I _think_ it's the masterapp xtra that's throwing the
errors. All this script was doing was launching a doc, changing some user
interface stuff, creating an object, then cleaning up the user interface
on the timeout, and voiding the timeout.

When I comment out the the masterapp call I haven't gotten an error. and
yes, every file requested exists; I'll see if I can fool with budapi
instead.


Can you use the built-in "open with"?

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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RE: attn: grimmwerks- html printing with POMlite

2002-11-12 Thread Brad Hile

> G'day? Ah australian I now see
Thought that would get your attention Mate ;)

>- well my daughter is now a big fan of the
> Wiggles, so all I've been learning of Au lately has been through either
> them or episodes of Farscape (r.i.p)
My condolences...That Cptn Feather sword is real worry

> It's been so long ago, I'm not sure what I ended up doing; however I
> _think_ member.html for the most part is a rendered text object - ie a
> bitmap -- so whenever I printed out bitmap text (like if there
> was text on
> the stage and I printed the stage) the text would always look bad as it
> would cease to be postscript/font descriptions and become just a 72dpi
> bitmap. Unfortunately the only thing I way that text can be printed
> properly is by creating the text boxes in Printomatic's memory and
> populating them with text - which is both a hassle and not sure
> if you can
> do html formatting anyway.

Sadly that pretty much confirms what I've found.
My last effort is to try and extract the alpha and apply it an image of the
member to create the anti-aliasing, then it's back to mono spaced fonts to
get them all to line up.
(I'm really only using the html to create a tabled order form)
Thanks for the reply
Brad


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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks
As more info - I _think_ it's the masterapp xtra that's throwing the 
errors. All this script was doing was launching a doc, changing some user 
interface stuff, creating an object, then cleaning up the user interface 
on the timeout, and voiding the timeout.

When I comment out the the masterapp call I haven't gotten an error. and 
yes, every file requested exists; I'll see if I can fool with budapi 
instead.

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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks
Thanks Jakob - and up to now it's been working as expected, but for some 
reason the alerts that I'm getting just don't make SENSE. Like the one I 
have now is alerting that 'script error, Handler not defined' and then 
#sizeLabel

and this is JUST for the pFiler = timeout("watching files").new(5000, 
#fileWatch, me) -- 

so I have NO idea where #sizeLabel is getting requested as a handler.

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Re: attn: grimmwerks- html printing with POMlite

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Brad Hile wrote:

> gday Grimmwerks,

G'day? Ah australian I now see - well my daughter is now a big fan of the 
Wiggles, so all I've been learning of Au lately has been through either 
them or episodes of Farscape (r.i.p)

It's been so long ago, I'm not sure what I ended up doing; however I 
_think_ member.html for the most part is a rendered text object - ie a 
bitmap -- so whenever I printed out bitmap text (like if there was text on 
the stage and I printed the stage) the text would always look bad as it 
would cease to be postscript/font descriptions and become just a 72dpi 
bitmap. Unfortunately the only thing I way that text can be printed 
properly is by creating the text boxes in Printomatic's memory and 
populating them with text - which is both a hassle and not sure if you can 
do html formatting anyway.

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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen
At 9:50 -0600 12/11/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


For some weird BUGGY reason, it's
throwing a script error saying that #size is missing? 'Size'? I'm not
using any size...


  ;-)

when I make a testbed with this frameScript:

on beginSprite me
  pFiler = timeout("filewatch").new(5000, #fileWatch, me)
end

on exitFrame me, aTimer
  if aTimer.voidP then go the frame
end

on fileWatch me
  put #fileWatch
end

Everything works as expected.
That indicates that there are other factors in your movie that causes 
your problem.

jakob
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attn: grimmwerks- html printing with POMlite

2002-11-12 Thread Brad Hile
gday Grimmwerks,
I came across a post in the archive from 2001 where you had jaggy lo res
printing of html members using POM lite.
Just wondering if you found a fix for that as I have the same problem &
tried everything I can think of at the moment with no luck.
thanks in advance
Brad

re: your pTimer error, is it possible you have a bitmap cast member with the
same name ( totally guessing here)


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Re: timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks
Well NOW I just took out the voidP(pFiler) so I'm making pFiler a timeout 
object no matter what, and rather than a #size alert, I now get a 
#sizeLabel alert? I'm not doing anything with members ANYWAY.

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timeout object weirdness

2002-11-12 Thread grimmwerks

I've got this simple one line that checks if pTimer is void, and if so, 
creates a timeout object called pTimer. For some weird BUGGY reason, it's 
throwing a script error saying that #size is missing? 'Size'? I'm not 
using any size...

Here's the call:   if voidP(pFiler) then pFiler = 
timeout("filewatch").new(5000, #fileWatch, me)

I could toss the fileWatch handler, but it's _this line_ that is throwing 
the #size error...

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Re: Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message -
From: "roy crisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'm pretty sure Tom also mentioned using the wish list as a bug reporting
> listfinding that address took enough time, you mean i've got to go
much
> around their site looking for a bug-report address, too?

It is the same. There is a form-mail page here:
http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/

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Re: Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread roy crisman
At 10:58 PM 11/11/2002 +, you wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "roy crisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's
> (IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

Yeah, you shouldn't do that. The files were released to fix a bug in
Shockwave that does not, and never has, affected either the authoring
environment or projectors. I don't know why the technote tells you to copy
the files to your Director folder as well as Shockwave, but it's clearly
wrong.

At least, I'm assuming you're referring to this:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/director/ts/documents/sw_xtraupdate_v106.h
tm

Although it doesn't mention an update to any DLLs, just the Xtras. Where did
the updated DLLs come from?


Updating just the two Xtras caused an alert-type message in Director (and 
Shockwave, I believe), because they were also supposed to be paired with 
the two new DLLs.  Macromedia Tom pointed me to the two DLL's when I whined 
about it not working on another list.

roymeo


I had to reinstall Director as a result of this (didn't back up the old
files), but I got an error on startup (as did at least one other poster on
m.d.l). Fortunately, the Xtras do fix the Shockwave problem. However, I
don't know why they haven't updated the standard download yet (auto-update
doesn't work reliably as stated in the technote (at least not immediately):
you have to apply the patch manually to every system).

- Robert

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Re: Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread roy crisman
The non-standard upgrade was the instruction set that I got from Macromedia.

They (Tom) posted a link to the technote with the instructions for the two 
new net xtras (for development and shockwave).

Installing them alone caused errors.

Macromedia Tom said "Oh yeah, you'll need these two dll files" and pointed 
me to them.

That fixed the New Net Xtra problem, but caused this debugger issue.

I'm pretty sure Tom also mentioned using the wish list as a bug reporting 
listfinding that address took enough time, you mean i've got to go much 
around their site looking for a bug-report address, too?

roymeo

At 05:51 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Roy,

1) I don't think wish-director is the place to report bugs

2) Where did you get new DLLs?  Did you use a standard upgrade 
install?  Were you going from 8.5 to 8.5.1, or did you just grab some DLLs 
and do a home-upgrade?  Because if so, you probably have a number of 
things out of whack and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you said you did, but you're describing a 
non-standard upgrade.

- Tab

At 05:25 PM 11/11/02, roy crisman wrote:
Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's 
(IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

On 3 different Win2000 PC's with D8.5.1.

Now, I can no longer use the debugger when an error happens (clicking 
[script] or [cancel] is ok, but not [debug]).  I also can't use the 
debugger by setting a breakpoint.

When I try to, I get a WindowsUI message:

Director 8.5  (it's 8.5.1, of course)
A fatal error has occured.  Director will quit now.
[OK]


To help narrow down the problem, I created a new movie, with only

on startmovie
  a = 1
  b = 2
  c = 3
end

in a movie script.  Setting a breakpoint on the second line causes the 
crash above.

I CAN however open the debugger window via the menu or CTRL-`, but it's 
blank, of course.

It's entirely possible that I've somehow screwed things up somewhere 
else, but since my computer at home is doing the same thing, I'm 
beginning to suspect that I couldn't have possibly screwed something up 
twice the same way (3 times when you count the other work computer that I 
saw the behavior on but it's currently out of commission due to hardware 
issues).

===
some testing happens
===

Switching back to the old IML32.dll and DirAPI.dll and 2 network Xtras, 
and the Debugger does not 'fatal error'.

Switching just the IML32 and DirAPI to the new versions, and it errors again.

For reference (cut n pasted version numbers from the info box):

New DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.104
New IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.104
(cause crash)

Old DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.102
Old IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.102
(no crash)

This problem on Win2000 PC's D8.5.1 has been reported to wish-director AT 
MACR.


roymeo

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Re: director bug?

2002-11-12 Thread Jakob Hede Madsen
At 13:08 +0100 12/11/02, Francesco Scarfato wrote:


i'm using director 8.5 and i've found (i think) a bug
i've select in file -> preferences -> general... 'message window recompiles
script'.
than i've set some breakpoint in a behavior script.
now if in a message window type:

a = script("myScript").new()

the debbuger windows appear correctly

but if type again in message window

a.myMethod()

the debugger doesn't start! :-O

if now deselect 'message window recompiles script' all work fine!

very strange or not? on mac and windows the behavior is the same


I also see this.
Jakob
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director bug?

2002-11-12 Thread Francesco Scarfato
hi
i'm using director 8.5 and i've found (i think) a bug
i've select in file -> preferences -> general... 'message window recompiles
script'.
than i've set some breakpoint in a behavior script.
now if in a message window type:

a = script("myScript").new()

the debbuger windows appear correctly

but if type again in message window

a.myMethod()

the debugger doesn't start! :-O

if now deselect 'message window recompiles script' all work fine!

very strange or not? on mac and windows the behavior is the same


enjoy
Francesco Scarfato
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Re: Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread ice
Make a U-turn back...typical in former windows sets of Director-modes. Bitmap 
had one in D7, as often halting or mocking things up... 
General rule, never use first edition or first versions could be thought of 
here... they are for 'the shooting galleries' in cheap testings for the 
public.. On the other hand, what is first? The hen or the egg ?
I gather you have at least some space left on the HD..?
Win NT isn't the best op-system to go on, at least of my knowledge in former 
handling external files. But that was then (NT3)...blockages and so on. W2k is 
of same stuff, but I havn't tested what it might say in networks. At least some 
improvements in shared files in network said. 
But I might be too zceptical again...

+
Quoting roy crisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's 
> (IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing
> environment.
> 
> On 3 different Win2000 PC's with D8.5.1.
> 
> Now, I can no longer use the debugger when an error happens (clicking 
> [script] or [cancel] is ok, but not [debug]).  I also can't use the 
> debugger by setting a breakpoint.


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Re: Director 8.6??

2002-11-12 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
And on a related note, Mediamacros.com list "Director 9" as one of the
compatible platforms for their examples and demos.

Have a look at the compatibility icons:
http://www.mediamacros.com/item/item=1006687089

Make of that what you will...

Ross


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