Re: Hercules/Debian howto?
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 09:13:47PM -0400, Marco Shaw wrote: > [Sending this a 2nd time to debian-s390 (which seems really low on volume) > and copying linux-390 in case there can offer to help] > > ***s390/mainframe novice alert!*** > > Did a quick search of the mailing list, but could not necessarily find > what I was looking for. > > Want to get Woody up and running on Hercules. I got 'some stuff' from: > http://people.debian.org/~mdz/hercules/ > which I guess are CKD/CCKD images. In the same directory, you can find an example (working) configuration file which you can use with those images. Use that as a starting point for your Hercules configuration. > I've been going through instructions here: > http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/herload.html > > I guess I'm wondering if I'm on the right track... The last URL > mentions running IBCDASDI by creating a hercules.cnf file with a line > "001234 3145 02 0..." > > I admit I'm following the steps word for word with no clue what I'm > doing (yet). From the last part all I get when trying to run hercules > is: > "HHC006I Error in hercules.cnf line 10: Unrecognized keyword 001234" You don't need to do any of this; the DASD image is preinstalled and ready to run. -- - mdz
Hercules/Debian howto?
[Sending this a 2nd time to debian-s390 (which seems really low on volume) and copying linux-390 in case there can offer to help] ***s390/mainframe novice alert!*** Did a quick search of the mailing list, but could not necessarily find what I was looking for. Want to get Woody up and running on Hercules. I got 'some stuff' from: http://people.debian.org/~mdz/hercules/ which I guess are CKD/CCKD images. I've been going through instructions here: http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules/herload.html I guess I'm wondering if I'm on the right track... The last URL mentions running IBCDASDI by creating a hercules.cnf file with a line "001234 3145 02 0..." I admit I'm following the steps word for word with no clue what I'm doing (yet). From the last part all I get when trying to run hercules is: "HHC006I Error in hercules.cnf line 10: Unrecognized keyword 001234" I'm a overdoing things and there's a much easier way to handle these CKD/CCKD images to get a running Debian/390 system? Marco
Re: EVMS scrapped?
The original article is pretty "gloomy", I had found this one provided "more hope": http://lwn.net/Articles/17857/ On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 09:59, Sal Torres/SBC Inc. wrote: > It seems LVM 2.0 will be included in the 2.6 kernel and development > of EVMS has been stopped. > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-979142.html?tag=fd_top
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
Hey thanks Gordon for checking. I never did hear back from SuSE on this. I'll check with management to see where we sit with the contract. Thanks again, Leland -Original Message- From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? I checked on this with our purchasing department. The answer is it depends entirely upon your support contract with SuSE whether they will charge or not. If your support contract says "maintenance upgrade" and it is still in effect or renewed when SLES8 comes out, you get it free. Needless to say, we renewed our contract. "Christmas is a funny season. What other time of the year do you sit in front of a dead tree and eat candy out of your socks?" Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. (425)865-5940 VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company > -- > From: Lucius, Leland > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2003 11:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? > > > Also, SuSE is due to come out with their SLES8 Real Soon Now (it was > > announced it would be ready in December of 2002). > > Do you happen to know if they will charge for the upgrade? > > Leland > >
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
I checked on this with our purchasing department. The answer is it depends entirely upon your support contract with SuSE whether they will charge or not. If your support contract says "maintenance upgrade" and it is still in effect or renewed when SLES8 comes out, you get it free. Needless to say, we renewed our contract. "Christmas is a funny season. What other time of the year do you sit in front of a dead tree and eat candy out of your socks?" Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. (425)865-5940 VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company > -- > From: Lucius, Leland > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2003 11:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? > > > Also, SuSE is due to come out with their SLES8 Real Soon Now (it was > > announced it would be ready in December of 2002). > > Do you happen to know if they will charge for the upgrade? > > Leland > >
Call all Linux enthusiasts
Its time to start getting serious about getting chair-people for the upcoming SHARE conference in Dallas. The VM and Linux Program is dire need of people to chair sessions, particular those dealing with Linux. There are several Linux oriented labs that need help from people who know the system well. However, none of the other sessions require any special knowledge or skill. Linux based sessions tend to be packed, standing room only. So being the session chair is a good way of guarenteeing that you will have a good seat. If you have any questions about how to be a session chair, just drop me a note off the list. The VM and Linux Program has been one of the most successful at SHARE for the last several conferences and having session chairs is an important part of that success. So, please join in and participate! Martha Linux sessions needing chairs: Day TimeSession Title Thu 08:00a 9311 Open Source: The Business Case Tue 04:30p 9312 Linux Certifications: What are They? And What is Thu 11:00a 9314 Linux Security Basics for S/390 People Tue 06:00p 9322 Application Debugging Techniques on Linux for Tue 04:30p 9325 Print Solutions Using Samba Mon 03:00p 9331 Linux in an LPAR - Here's How It's Done Wed 08:00a 9333 SCSI Devices on Linux for zSeries - Early Tue 09:30a 9334 Managing Multiple Linux Instances on VM Tue 04:30p 9336 Linux - Disk and Tape Connectivity for S/390 and Tue 08:00a 9337 Securing Linux for S/390 - User Experiences Thu 04:30p 9338 Managing Linux Guests Using Existing CA Mainframe Mon 04:30p 9340 Linux for S/390 - Backing up your Data Wed 04:30p 9342 Linux on the Mainframe: Samba Connectivity Fri 08:00a 9344 Best Practices for Deploying Linux on VM Tue 03:00p 9349 Cloning Penguins: Performance and Capacity Issues Thu 01:30p 9353 Linux for S/390 Installation Lab - Part 1 of 3 Thu 03:00p 9354 Linux S/390 Installation Lab - Part 2 of 3 Thu 04:30p 9355 Linux S/390 Installation Lab - Part 3 of 3 Thu 09:30a 9356 Connecting to Linux for zSeries Mon 01:30p 9357 Accessing Your Linux LPARs/Guests Using Cisco's Wed 06:00p 9359 Linux Debugging for z/OS Veterans (and Others, Wed 11:00a 9360 Monitoring & Understanding Performance for Linux on Tue 09:30a 9363 Managing Server (UNIX, Linux, NT) Consolidation to Thu 09:30a 9365 z/VM & Linux Security Tue 08:00a 9370 A Windows User Moves to Linux Tue 01:30p 9371 Linux in Your Lap Thu 09:30a 9372 Long Distance Linux (a Tele-Commuter's Tale) Wed 09:30a 9380 Linux 101 Lab - Part 1 of 2 Wed 11:00a 9381 Linux 101 Lab - Part 2 of 2
Re: Ping to Linux/390
On Sunday, 01/05/2003 at 03:21 CST, Conrad Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not able to ping my IP Address of my newly created linux/390 host from > a variety of different systems including NT, VSE or OS/390. I can only ping > the linux/390 host from my VM TCP/IP stack (or vice versa) which I am using > as a peer to the linux/390 host. I am using a CTC connection from the > linux/390 host to the TCP/IP stack and that all seems to look normal when I > issue the NETSTAT DEVL command it shows the CTC connection as ready. The problem is routing, not device status. > Could I have a possible problem with the initalization parameters that I am > entering at boot time from the VM RDR ? [snip] Definitely. > I was not sure of the values for Net mask and Net address fields. Ask your network people for help. Draw them a picture. We can't tell you what the correct addresses and masks are supposed to be; only they can. > HOME 10.4.16.79 LI2000LNK > 10.4.16.79 OSA900 > GATEWAY > ; NETWORK FIRST HOP DRIVER PACKET SIZE SUBN MASK SUBN VALUE > 10.4.0.1= OSA900 1500 HOST > 10.4.17.56 = LI2000LNK 1500 HOST > DEFAULTNET 10.4.0.1 OSA900 1500 0 Your first entry (10.4.0.1) is suspect. If you can provide the correct addresses and subnet masks, then we can help you with the configuration syntax. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
Yes, we do. Contact us offline for the information, or see http://www.sinenomine.net/debian. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > James Melin > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? > > > Is anyone offering 24/7 support for Debian such as the > support offered by > SuSE/RH? That's often the only way I can sell a software platform to > management is decent software support. > > > > |-+> > | | John Summerfield | > | || | afe.com.au> | > | | Sent by: Linux on 390| > | | Port | > | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| > | | EDU> | > | || > | || > | | 01/04/2003 04:49 PM | > | | Please respond to| > | | Linux on 390 Port| > | || > |-+> > > >- > -| > | >| > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| > | cc: >| > | Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? >| > > >- > -| > > > > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marco Shaw wrote: > > > > Sure wish IBM would support Debian. It is SO VERY much > nicer to use. > > > > Is that a general statement about Debian, or you find > Debian/390 to be > > very good compared to other Linux/390 distributions? > > My experience is all IA32. > > I've been using Red Hat Linux since 3.0.3. Recent releases are easy to > install and adapt easily to changed configurations such as a change of > NIC, mouse, new drives and such. Also, much configuration is > assisted by > GUIs. > > With the advent of RH 8.0, RH and I have some differences and > I've been > looking at Debian. > > Debian's installer "needs work," I've not discovered much in > the way of > tools to help users configure stuff. > > One RHL one installs stuff and then configures it, but it's > up to you to > figure what needs to be configured. Mostly, stuff is in a > working state. > > on Debian, much configuration is interactive; you leave off > installing a > bunch of software to configure less, and that's a pain, it makes > automatic installations akin to Red Hat's kickstart process difficult. > > To be sure, cloning is easy enough. > > However, one you have the system setup and running, I think > Debian wins. > *I* want to get my updates from a local mirror, and Red Hat's > tools for > package-maintenance don't so easily support that. For that reason I've > not used Red Hat's up2date facility. > > On Debian, apt-get automatically gets the latest versions of packages. > Installing Apache? It gets the updated version for your > release plus all > the requirements. > > I've not tried updating from one release to another, but as I > understand > it, it's supposed to work on the running system, without rebooting > (except to activate your new kernel). > > I think I would reboot, once the upgrade's done, to ensure > everything is > restart and does still work. > > I also like the fact it makes no effort to tie me to a vendor. > > > > > -- > > > Cheers > John. > > Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at > http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb >
Re: Linux on 390
I'll add to Mark's list Apache, UDB, Tivoli Netview... On Monday 06 January 2003 09:54, you wrote: We use Linux in both test and production environment. We have several test websites using Tomcat, testing backups using amanda, We have production Linux guests running, DNS, Radius Server, FTP, NFS. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 850.219.5050 http://www.mainline.com Paul Claus cc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: Linux on 390 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> 01/06/2003 09:28 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Happy New Year everyone My management has asked me to explore the possibilities of running Linux on the mainframe, I was wondering how the list members are using Linux on the mainframe: Are you running production under Linux. If so what type of applications are being serviced. or Testing Linux to see if it can handle a production workload. Thank you in advance for your help in this matter Paul Claus Lead Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (630) 773-5085
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
The real answer to this is yes, the Debian mailing lists which operate 24x7, and are always manned by knowledgable people, but that is not a management friendly answer. I think however the question you are asking is does any company offer 24x7 support, and in terms of a big name I think the only one is HP who load Debian on some of their RISC boxes. Whether they would support a 390 installation I do not know, but until IBM realises that there is more than just RH and SuSE they might be prepared to, and it might even embarase IBM into doing something. It is also possible that IBM Global Services would take on Debian, the resistance currently seems to be in the Software Division who will only package and certify code like Websphere, Java and DB2 for RPM based distributions. David James Melin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pin.mn.us> cc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU> 06/01/2003 14:16 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Is anyone offering 24/7 support for Debian such as the support offered by SuSE/RH? That's often the only way I can sell a software platform to management is decent software support. |-+> | | John Summerfield | | | | | | Sent by: Linux on 390| | | Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | EDU> | | || | || | | 01/04/2003 04:49 PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> > --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? | > --| On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marco Shaw wrote: > > Sure wish IBM would support Debian. It is SO VERY much nicer to use. > > Is that a general statement about Debian, or you find Debian/390 to be > very good compared to other Linux/390 distributions? My experience is all IA32. I've been using Red Hat Linux since 3.0.3. Recent releases are easy to install and adapt easily to changed configurations such as a change of NIC, mouse, new drives and such. Also, much configuration is assisted by GUIs. With the advent of RH 8.0, RH and I have some differences and I've been looking at Debian. Debian's installer "needs work," I've not discovered much in the way of tools to help users configure stuff. One RHL one installs stuff and then configures it, but it's up to you to figure what needs to be configured. Mostly, stuff is in a working state. on Debian, much configuration is interactive; you leave off installing a bunch of software to configure less, and that's a pain, it makes automatic installations akin to Red Hat's kickstart process difficult. To be sure, cloning is easy enough. However, one you have the system setup and running, I think Debian wins. *I* want to get my updates from a local mirror, and Red Hat's tools for package-maintenance don't so easily support that. For that reason I've not used Red Hat's up2date facility. On Debian, apt-get automatically gets the latest versions of packages. Installing Apache? It gets the updated version for your release plus all the requirements. I've not tried updating from one release to another, but as I understand it, it's supposed to work on the running system, without rebooting (except to activate your new kernel). I think I would reboot, once the upgrade's done, to ensure everything is restart and does still work. I also like the fact it makes no effort to tie me to a vendor. -- Cheers John. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Linux on 390
We use Linux in both test and production environment. We have several test websites using Tomcat, testing backups using amanda, We have production Linux guests running, DNS, Radius Server, FTP, NFS. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 850.219.5050 http://www.mainline.com Paul Claus cc: Sent by: Linux on Subject: Linux on 390 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> 01/06/2003 09:28 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Happy New Year everyone My management has asked me to explore the possibilities of running Linux on the mainframe, I was wondering how the list members are using Linux on the mainframe: Are you running production under Linux. If so what type of applications are being serviced. or Testing Linux to see if it can handle a production workload. Thank you in advance for your help in this matter Paul Claus Lead Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (630) 773-5085
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
> Is anyone offering 24/7 support for Debian such as the support offered by > SuSE/RH? That's often the only way I can sell a software platform to > management is decent software support. An "old hand's" perspective: I started supporting enterprise systems for banks back in the late 1960s. Apart from clunky terminals my main resource in the field was IBM's dear old EWS - the "Early Warning System" on microfiche. Over the years I've used every vendor's tools - I have very fond memories especially of NAS/HDS' "SPIRE" system written by Dick Finch. Informal it may be, but these days I find Google Groups (Google's indexed exposure to Usenet) an incredible resource. Open source is also open discussion - I've had great success over the past few weeks in that just about every issue I've hit (including a real nasty CD-ROM hardware misconfiguration problem) has popped right out of a search on http://groups.google.com -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803 +49 173 6242039
amanda changer
I'm working on using amanda with a 3494 ATL. I have written a socket program for linux to request a tape be mounted (either scratch or a specific VOLSER). I have a socket program listening in CMS to receive the mount requests, and then issue DFSMSRM commands to mount the correct tape. It then replies back to the linux socket program - that the tape was mounted or not. Now I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to create an amanda changer script to in use in this environment. Does anyone have an example of a changer script/widget that requests volumes and not slots? Or anyone have any hints that may get me over the hump? Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 850.219.5050 http://www.mainline.com
Linux on 390
Happy New Year everyone My management has asked me to explore the possibilities of running Linux on the mainframe, I was wondering how the list members are using Linux on the mainframe: Are you running production under Linux. If so what type of applications are being serviced. or Testing Linux to see if it can handle a production workload. Thank you in advance for your help in this matter Paul Claus Lead Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (630) 773-5085
Re: Linux time/date getting skewed
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 05:46, Rob van der Heij wrote: > At 00:27 06-01-03 +, Alan Cox wrote: > > >Clocks drift rather than jump so you just have to track the drifts > > If it is true that our clock falls back suddenly during high traffic, then > the ntpd algorithms may not be best answer either. If your clock fails suddenely during high traffic I'd say you need to go beat up some engineers ;)
Re: EVMS scrapped?
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:58:14PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > EVMS is two things - one of them was a rather overengineered (IMHO) kernel > driver IBM? Overengineer? Naw. Can't be. They don't do that. Now, where's the pain pills?...gotta take care of the back I hurt moving an AS/400 by myself...
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
http://sinenomine.net/debian/support.php Mark Post -Original Message- From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? Is anyone offering 24/7 support for Debian such as the support offered by SuSE/RH? That's often the only way I can sell a software platform to management is decent software support. |-+> | | John Summerfield | | | | | | Sent by: Linux on 390| | | Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | EDU> | | || | || | | 01/04/2003 04:49 PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> >--- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? | >--- ---| On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marco Shaw wrote: > > Sure wish IBM would support Debian. It is SO VERY much nicer to use. > > Is that a general statement about Debian, or you find Debian/390 to be > very good compared to other Linux/390 distributions? My experience is all IA32. I've been using Red Hat Linux since 3.0.3. Recent releases are easy to install and adapt easily to changed configurations such as a change of NIC, mouse, new drives and such. Also, much configuration is assisted by GUIs. With the advent of RH 8.0, RH and I have some differences and I've been looking at Debian. Debian's installer "needs work," I've not discovered much in the way of tools to help users configure stuff. One RHL one installs stuff and then configures it, but it's up to you to figure what needs to be configured. Mostly, stuff is in a working state. on Debian, much configuration is interactive; you leave off installing a bunch of software to configure less, and that's a pain, it makes automatic installations akin to Red Hat's kickstart process difficult. To be sure, cloning is easy enough. However, one you have the system setup and running, I think Debian wins. *I* want to get my updates from a local mirror, and Red Hat's tools for package-maintenance don't so easily support that. For that reason I've not used Red Hat's up2date facility. On Debian, apt-get automatically gets the latest versions of packages. Installing Apache? It gets the updated version for your release plus all the requirements. I've not tried updating from one release to another, but as I understand it, it's supposed to work on the running system, without rebooting (except to activate your new kernel). I think I would reboot, once the upgrade's done, to ensure everything is restart and does still work. I also like the fact it makes no effort to tie me to a vendor. -- Cheers John. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Most 'mature' distribution?
Is anyone offering 24/7 support for Debian such as the support offered by SuSE/RH? That's often the only way I can sell a software platform to management is decent software support. |-+> | | John Summerfield | | | | | | Sent by: Linux on 390| | | Port | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | EDU> | | || | || | | 01/04/2003 04:49 PM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+> >--| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Most 'mature' distribution? | >--| On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marco Shaw wrote: > > Sure wish IBM would support Debian. It is SO VERY much nicer to use. > > Is that a general statement about Debian, or you find Debian/390 to be > very good compared to other Linux/390 distributions? My experience is all IA32. I've been using Red Hat Linux since 3.0.3. Recent releases are easy to install and adapt easily to changed configurations such as a change of NIC, mouse, new drives and such. Also, much configuration is assisted by GUIs. With the advent of RH 8.0, RH and I have some differences and I've been looking at Debian. Debian's installer "needs work," I've not discovered much in the way of tools to help users configure stuff. One RHL one installs stuff and then configures it, but it's up to you to figure what needs to be configured. Mostly, stuff is in a working state. on Debian, much configuration is interactive; you leave off installing a bunch of software to configure less, and that's a pain, it makes automatic installations akin to Red Hat's kickstart process difficult. To be sure, cloning is easy enough. However, one you have the system setup and running, I think Debian wins. *I* want to get my updates from a local mirror, and Red Hat's tools for package-maintenance don't so easily support that. For that reason I've not used Red Hat's up2date facility. On Debian, apt-get automatically gets the latest versions of packages. Installing Apache? It gets the updated version for your release plus all the requirements. I've not tried updating from one release to another, but as I understand it, it's supposed to work on the running system, without rebooting (except to activate your new kernel). I think I would reboot, once the upgrade's done, to ensure everything is restart and does still work. I also like the fact it makes no effort to tie me to a vendor. -- Cheers John. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: EVMS scrapped?
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 13:59, Sal Torres/SBC Inc. wrote: > It seems LVM 2.0 will be included in the 2.6 kernel and development > of EVMS has been stopped. EVMS isn't exactly dead. EVMS is two things - one of them was a rather overengineered (IMHO) kernel driver which partly due to that had some fun bugs, security holes etc and was hard to follow. Partly a very nice integrated view of volumes and good strong tools. The tools end of EVMS is alive and well, its merely the low level implementation details which have changed. So it'll look like EVMS, configure like EVMS, and run like LVM2 Alan
EVMS scrapped?
It seems LVM 2.0 will be included in the 2.6 kernel and development of EVMS has been stopped. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-979142.html?tag=fd_top "Sistina's announcement that LVM 2.0 would be incorporated into the 2.6 Linux kernel came shortly after IBM programmers working on their own competing Enterprise Volume Management System (EVMS) announced they would scrap much of their project. As recently as August, Dan Frye, head of IBM's Linux Technology Center, had hopes for EVMS. "It's really a quantum step forward in ease of use, reliability and performance," Frye said in an interview at the time. But when top Linux programmers declined to include EVMS in the 2.5 kernel--the test version that will become 2.6--IBM decided to cut its losses."
