Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)

2005-03-17 Thread Wesley Parish
Occasionally I reply using the names of various previous 419ers, informing
them of a leopard-repulsion experiment that went tragically wrong - the
Screw-in Screw-on Stainless-Steel Condom (R) The Pentagon(TM), didn't work as
a Leopard Repellent as predicted - are we theorizing wrongly, that the
leopard would be repelled out of a sense of public duty? - do we need to
start on Stage Two of the plan, beeding a leopard that can be reliably
predicted to be repelled by the sight of ... - and now we are short of
volunteers, and would you, Mr Nice 419er, and your wife, like to volunteer?

I only got one reply, and that was from someone claiming to be from the
contested Western Sahara - regretfully the Leopard Trainer never contacted
him, regretfully I never carried it on.  I assume he felt Leopards were few
and far between in the Western Sahara.

Someone took a 419er in with a Lovecraft-based story, and scared the living
daylights out of him, or so I've heard.  And then there was Wallace
Jersey-Heifer ... ;)

Wesley Parish

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:33, shogunx wrote:
 Last week I got one from a woman claiming to be Saddam Husseins wife!
 Those silly Nigerian 419'ers.

 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Eric Clapsaddle wrote:
  I got one from the attorney of a distant relative in Nigeria that passed
  away.  Even though I never met him, he wanted to give me a large
  inheritance.
  What a guy!
 
  Eric
 
 
 
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  On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Richard Pinion wrote:
   I'm sure there are many banks in Nigeria that would love to open an
   account for you.  We're always getting emails from them trying to give
   away money of some rich person who died and has no family.  All you
   need to do is give them your current bank account number!
  
  :)
 
  I get plenty of those too.  Most of the packet headers actually originate
  in germany, if I remember correctly.  I actually had someone try to scam
  me out of a digital alphaserver 2100 in a similar fashion.
 
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   On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:23:24AM -0500, shogunx wrote:
| On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote:
|  | That part I have.  What I do not have is 3-phase power to run
|  | it.
| 
|  What voltage and amperage does it need?
|
| 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps.
   
You'll need at least 25 kVA.  That's as much power as a small house.
 
  Then
 
add air conditioning.  Not sure whether upgrading electric service or
 
  buying
 
a generator would cost more.  Maybe renting one long enough to see if
 
  it
 
will power up could be done.  What are your goals for it?
   
Is it literally 440 volts, or is that just a figure of speech for
what
 
  is
 
officially 480 volts (if you are in the US)?
  
   Well, according to ohms law, it should work at 440, though with a
   higher current draw.  You are correct.  3-phase each phase 120 degrees
   out of phase from the others at 120V per phase yields 3 discrete 240V
   circuits (actually about 208V after phase shift, but for all practical
   purposes
 
  its
 
   the same thing, and depends on whether you use a wye or delta
   configuration in your transformer).  So figure of speech it is.  In an
   electic company FUD kind of way.
  
   tangent
   Also, is there anyone on
   this list that operates a s/390 / z-series machine (preferably running
   linux) in a bank?  If so, please contact me off list with information
   on how to open an account.  I am having a problem with my current bank,
   Netbank, and after a bit of research, have found the reason.  They
 
  operate
 
   m$ servers.  Go figure.
  
   Scott
  
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LVM Question

2005-03-17 Thread José Raúl Barón Rodríguez
I have currently a database in a filesystem located in a DASD. I would
like to add 2 more DASD to this filesystem using LVM. 

Do I have to erase previously all the data in my first DASD ? or does
this disk enhancement respect the previously existing data ?

Saludos, 

 


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Enviado el: miércoles, 16 de marzo de 2005 21:02
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Asunto: Re: LVM - maximum PV's?


Is there a device defined for it in the /dev directory?
For example, /dev/dasdaa, /dev/dasdaa1, /dev/dasdaa2, /dev/dasdaa3. You
can create them with the mknod command.

Patrick Kelly
System Programmer
State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio
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Kinnear, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:47 PM
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Subject: LVM - maximum PV's?

On a SUSE SLES8 system I've created an LVM with 15 full mod-3 3390's and
8 mod-9's. I cannot get the 9th mod-9 to becoem a member of LVM. the
pvcreate appears to work OK, but the volume is not on the pvscan list,
nor included in the vgdisplay total. Any ideas? 

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Re: boot disk for Slack390

2005-03-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/16/2005 at 08:25 CST, Phil Howard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So which TDF file does it default to using for an IPL?

There is (typically) only one TDF on the CD.  The name of the TDF that
will be used is part of the emulator configuration.

 So if I have these files from Slack390:
[...snip...]
 I could use them with the OMA tape emulation.  But what about with HMC?

 Now it sounds like the HMC drive won't be usable for what I want to do.

No, those files cannot be used with the HMC.  The tapeinstall image was
built to read data from a tape drive (emulated or real).  The
Load-from-DVD function was designed to work with the non-IPLable binary
kernel images.  That can be the Linux starter system such as would be on
the distributor CD, or it can be a complete image that you have customized
and built yourself.  This is the file that the IPLable versions actually
load, I think.

Someone more conversant with Linux build will have to say where the binary
kernel image is stored these days.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: boot disk for Slack390

2005-03-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/16/2005 at 05:47 CST, Phil Howard
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 Got this and reading.  Can you confirm my summarization:

 There is no specific default .ins file.  IPL-ing by CDROM cannot be made
 automatic (short of reprogramming the HMC system, I suppose).  Someone
 has to pick the specific .ins file to be used.

The HMC will show you a list of .ins files that are on the CD. Choose one.

 And then, the CDROM is not available as a data device.  But what if a
 4th file is listed?  Would that file be readable as the 4th tape file
 on the emulated tape?

A .ins file specifies an arbitrary number of files to be loaded into
arbitrary memory locations.  Linux, however, is interested only in 3
things: the kernel, a RAM disk, and a parameter file.  Put as much in the
RAM disk as you would like (and that will fit).

 So anyway, this looks like it's doable except that it has to be done on
 a manual interactive basis for S/390, unless the HMC can somehow be
 programmed to automatically IPL a specific .ins file upon unattended
 power-up.

I don't think you want the CD always sitting in the HMC drive.  The drive
is used for other purposes, too.  Use the CD as a recovery system and
let your production system load from DASD.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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LVM - maximum PV's?

2005-03-17 Thread Kinnear, Mike
 
Thank you. However, I had already resolved the issue (and it was an
issue)  of needing to define the 6-character devices. Here is my current
/proc/dasd/devices. It is the dasdan and dasdao that I cannot get
attached to my LVM.  
 
0200(ECKD) at ( 94:  0) is dasda  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0201(ECKD) at ( 94:  4) is dasdb  : active at blocksize: 4096,
597240 blocks, 2332 MB
0205(ECKD) at ( 94:  8) is dasdc  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0206(ECKD) at ( 94: 12) is dasdd  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0210(ECKD) at ( 94: 16) is dasde  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0211(ECKD) at ( 94: 20) is dasdf  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0212(ECKD) at ( 94: 24) is dasdg  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0213(ECKD) at ( 94: 28) is dasdh  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0214(ECKD) at ( 94: 32) is dasdi  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0215(ECKD) at ( 94: 36) is dasdj  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0216(ECKD) at ( 94: 40) is dasdk  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0217(ECKD) at ( 94: 44) is dasdl  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0218(ECKD) at ( 94: 48) is dasdm  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0219(ECKD) at ( 94: 52) is dasdn  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
021a(none) at ( 94: 56) is dasdo  : unknown
021b(none) at ( 94: 60) is dasdp  : unknown
021c(none) at ( 94: 64) is dasdq  : unknown
021d(none) at ( 94: 68) is dasdr  : unknown
021e(none) at ( 94: 72) is dasds  : unknown
021f(none) at ( 94: 76) is dasdt  : unknown
0220(ECKD) at ( 94: 80) is dasdu  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0221(ECKD) at ( 94: 84) is dasdv  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0222(ECKD) at ( 94: 88) is dasdw  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0223(ECKD) at ( 94: 92) is dasdx  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0224(ECKD) at ( 94: 96) is dasdy  : active at blocksize: 4096,
600840 blocks, 2347 MB
0225(ECKD) at ( 94:100) is dasdz  : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0226(ECKD) at ( 94:104) is dasdaa : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0227(ECKD) at ( 94:108) is dasdab : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0228(ECKD) at ( 94:112) is dasdac : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0229(ECKD) at ( 94:116) is dasdad : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
022a(none) at ( 94:120) is dasdae : unknown
022b(none) at ( 94:124) is dasdaf : unknown
022c(none) at ( 94:128) is dasdag : unknown
022d(none) at ( 94:132) is dasdah : unknown
022e(none) at ( 94:136) is dasdai : unknown
022f(none) at ( 94:140) is dasdaj : unknown
0230(ECKD) at ( 94:144) is dasdak : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0231(ECKD) at ( 94:148) is dasdal : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0232(ECKD) at ( 94:152) is dasdam : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0233(ECKD) at ( 94:156) is dasdan : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
0234(ECKD) at ( 94:160) is dasdao : active at blocksize: 4096,
1802880 blocks, 7042 MB
 



From: Carsten Otte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:25 PM
To: Linux on 390 Port
Cc: Kinnear, Mike
Subject: Re: LVM - maximum PV's?



On a SUSE SLES8 system I've created an LVM with 15 full mod-3 3390's
and
8 mod-9's. I cannot get the 9th mod-9 to become a member of LVM. the
pvcreate appears to work OK, but the volume is not on the pvscan list,
nor included in the vgdisplay total. Any ideas? 
Check /proc/devices. If dasd shows up multiple times (not only major 94)
you are most probably running 
out of device nodes. In this case you can create new ones using mknod,
the major/minor numbers of the 
dasds can be found in /proc/dasd/devices. 
like this: 
mknod /dev/dasdabc b major minor 
mknod /dev/dasdabc1 b major minor+1 
mknod /dev/dasdabc2 b major minor+2 
mknod /dev/dasdabc3 b major minor+3 
(no more, we only have 3 partitions and minor+4 belongs to a different
volume) 

with kind regards
Carsten Otte
IBM Linux Technology Center / Boeblingen lab
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habetur, quomodo habenda est 



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Re: LVM Question

2005-03-17 Thread Hugo Rivera
You don't have to.
First create new physical volumes:

pvcreate  /dev/dasdx1 /dev/dasdy1

Add new volumes to your volume group:

vgextend /dev/vgroup /dev/dasdx1 /dev/dasdy1

At this time you may see the new volumes added using vgdisplay /dev/vgroup

Unmount your file system:

umount /uxxx

Extend your logical volume:

 lvextend -L+1G /dev/vgroupx/volx (if you want to extend 1 giga).

Mount your file system:

mount  /dev/vgroup/volx  /uxx

I hope this can help you.


Hugo Rivera
SSA II
County of Contra Costa
Department of Information Technology




   
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I have currently a database in a filesystem located in a DASD. I would
like to add 2 more DASD to this filesystem using LVM.

Do I have to erase previously all the data in my first DASD ? or does
this disk enhancement respect the previously existing data ?

Saludos,




José Raúl Barón
Dpto. Sistemas
CALCULO S.A.
Tel. 91 330 86 44
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de
Kelly, Patrick
Enviado el: miércoles, 16 de marzo de 2005 21:02
Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Asunto: Re: LVM - maximum PV's?


Is there a device defined for it in the /dev directory?
For example, /dev/dasdaa, /dev/dasdaa1, /dev/dasdaa2, /dev/dasdaa3. You
can create them with the mknod command.

Patrick Kelly
System Programmer
State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio
Information Technology Services (ITS)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  614-227-2908



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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:47 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: LVM - maximum PV's?

On a SUSE SLES8 system I've created an LVM with 15 full mod-3 3390's and
8 mod-9's. I cannot get the 9th mod-9 to becoem a member of LVM. the
pvcreate appears to work OK, but the volume is not on the pvscan list,
nor included in the vgdisplay total. Any ideas?

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Re: LVM Question

2005-03-17 Thread Hugo Rivera
I'm sorry, I forgot the main step, before you mount your file system you MUST 
resize your logical volume:

resize2fs  /dev/vgroup/volx

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I have currently a database in a filesystem located in a DASD. I would
like to add 2 more DASD to this filesystem using LVM.

Do I have to erase previously all the data in my first DASD ? or does
this disk enhancement respect the previously existing data ?

Saludos,




José Raúl Barón
Dpto. Sistemas
CALCULO S.A.
Tel. 91 330 86 44
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Kelly, Patrick
Enviado el: miércoles, 16 de marzo de 2005 21:02
Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Asunto: Re: LVM - maximum PV's?


Is there a device defined for it in the /dev directory?
For example, /dev/dasdaa, /dev/dasdaa1, /dev/dasdaa2, /dev/dasdaa3. You
can create them with the mknod command.

Patrick Kelly
System Programmer
State Teachers Retirement System of Ohio
Information Technology Services (ITS)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  614-227-2908



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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:47 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: LVM - maximum PV's?

On a SUSE SLES8 system I've created an LVM with 15 full mod-3 3390's and
8 mod-9's. I cannot get the 9th mod-9 to becoem a member of LVM. the
pvcreate appears to work OK, but the volume is not on the pvscan list,
nor included in the vgdisplay total. Any ideas?

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libstdc++ dependency

2005-03-17 Thread Rob Schwartz
I'm trying to install IBM HTTP Server onto an old SLES7 virtual server and 
am getting the following failed dependencies:
libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6 

libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

libstdc++.so.5 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

Is there a commonly-accepted way to find RPM's that satisfy dependencies?   
Hunting through a google search seems so cumbersome.

I think libstdc++ is needed but I can't find that for SLES7.Has anyone 
found libstdc++ for SLES7?

Thanks,

Rob

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Re: libstdc++ dependency

2005-03-17 Thread David Boyes
 I'm trying to install IBM HTTP Server onto an old SLES7
 virtual server and am getting the following failed dependencies:
 libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

This one is in the compat RPM.

 libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

You'll have to build glibc and gcc 3 from source for this one.

 libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

This one is in the compat RPM.

 libstdc++.so.5 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

This one is in the compat RPM.

 libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

This one is in the compat RPM.

 Is there a commonly-accepted way to find RPM's that satisfy
 dependencies?   Hunting through a google search seems so cumbersome.

rpmfind.org sometimes helps. Help with retrofitting something onto old
releases is often a good reason to have a real support contract rather
than just maintenance.

 I think libstdc++ is needed but I can't find that for SLES7.
   Has anyone found libstdc++ for SLES7?

Compat RPM, or build gcc 2 from source.

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Re: LVM Question

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Once I found out about the e2fsadm command, I stopped using lvextend,
because e2fsadm does everything for you:
umount the file system
e2fsadm -L +1G /dev/vg01/lv0l1
mount the file system

It does the lvextend, then the fsck that resize2fs always requires, then the
resize2fs.  Lovely, and works just fine on ext3 file systems as well.


Mark Post

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I'm sorry, I forgot the main step, before you mount your file system you
MUST resize your logical volume:

resize2fs  /dev/vgroup/volx

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Re: libstdc++ dependency

2005-03-17 Thread Rob Schwartz
Hey David,

I actually have compat installed.

LXC19:~ # rpm -q compat
compat-2001.10.30-0

LXC19:~ # rpm -q --provides compat
libgpp27
libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3

Shouldn't the libstdc++.so.5 be included in the --provides output?
That's what is confusing me.

Thanks,
Rob

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  I'm trying to install IBM HTTP Server onto an old SLES7
  virtual server and am getting the following failed dependencies:
  libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

 This one is in the compat RPM.

  libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

 You'll have to build glibc and gcc 3 from source for this one.

  libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

 This one is in the compat RPM.

  libstdc++.so.5 is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

 This one is in the compat RPM.

  libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by gsk7bas-7.0-3.6

 This one is in the compat RPM.

  Is there a commonly-accepted way to find RPM's that satisfy
  dependencies?   Hunting through a google search seems so cumbersome.

 rpmfind.org sometimes helps. Help with retrofitting something onto old
 releases is often a good reason to have a real support contract rather
 than just maintenance.

  I think libstdc++ is needed but I can't find that for SLES7.
Has anyone found libstdc++ for SLES7?

 Compat RPM, or build gcc 2 from source.

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Re: libstdc++ dependency

2005-03-17 Thread David Boyes
 I actually have compat installed.
 Shouldn't the libstdc++.so.5 be included in the --provides output?
 That's what is confusing me.

Weird. I'd think it should show up. Check to see if you have the last
updates for SLES7. My last SLES7 system does have that library included
from the compat RPM -- may be a newer version of compat though (am away
from office, so can't check).

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread David Boyes
 I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have
 recommended using
 some sort of content management system for the site.  None of
 those run on
 z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is
 hosted.  I don't
 own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to
 a different
 host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably famous so I
 don't really want
 to use a different one.

One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based
WWW server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the
hosting machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running
as a guest might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support
such an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS
hacking. It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site
elsewhere in case of connectivity problems (there are excellent tools
for that in Linux that I don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Fulton, Aaron
I missed the original post regarding the presentations.  Where can I
find those?  Is there a link to them?

Aaron 

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do wnload

 I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have
 recommended using
 some sort of content management system for the site.  None of
 those run on
 z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is
 hosted.  I don't
 own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to
 a different
 host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably famous so I
 don't really want
 to use a different one.

One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based
WWW server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the
hosting machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running
as a guest might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support
such an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS
hacking. It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site
elsewhere in case of connectivity problems (there are excellent tools
for that in Linux that I don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Re: boot disk for Slack390

2005-03-17 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 10:17:51AM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote:

|  And then, the CDROM is not available as a data device.  But what if a
|  4th file is listed?  Would that file be readable as the 4th tape file
|  on the emulated tape?
|
| A .ins file specifies an arbitrary number of files to be loaded into
| arbitrary memory locations.  Linux, however, is interested only in 3
| things: the kernel, a RAM disk, and a parameter file.  Put as much in the
| RAM disk as you would like (and that will fit).

What about RAMFS instead?

Or what about early userspace rootfs CPIO image?


|  So anyway, this looks like it's doable except that it has to be done on
|  a manual interactive basis for S/390, unless the HMC can somehow be
|  programmed to automatically IPL a specific .ins file upon unattended
|  power-up.
|
| I don't think you want the CD always sitting in the HMC drive.  The drive
| is used for other purposes, too.  Use the CD as a recovery system and
| let your production system load from DASD.

Actually, that is the purpose ... to be able to bring the system up from
the CDROM.

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
My links to them are on http://linuxvm.org/Present/

The actual PDF files reside on Sine Nomine's web site at
http://sinenomine.net/vm/hillgang-15-mar-2005  You can find the archives of
this mailing list by looking at the bottom of every email you receive from
the list.


Mark Post

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I missed the original post regarding the presentations.  Where can I find
those?  Is there a link to them?

Aaron

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New Presentation

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Dave Jones has contributed a presentation on Accessing LINUX file systems
from CMS that he gave at the Metropolitan VM Users Association in January.
I've added it to the linuxvm.org web site.

http://linuxvm.org/Present/index.html#mvmua20050124


Mark Post

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
To me, not at all important.  To the site's sponsor, that's perhaps a very
different matter.  (Who, for the record, has been very good to me and hence
this community.)

I'll be thinking and talking about this whole topic with others for a while.
In the meantime, to stave off the wolves at the front door (overly harsh
imagery, I know, but it's what came to mind), I've put some of the more
important items from the last month or so on the main page.


Mark Post

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-snip-
One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based WWW
server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the hosting
machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running as a guest
might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support such
an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS hacking.
It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site elsewhere in case of
connectivity problems (there are excellent tools for that in Linux that I
don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Neale Ferguson has uploaded a package of mono-1.1.4 RPMs for S/390 to the
linuxvm.org site.  It's on the large size (~20MB), so be patient if you're
on a dial up line.

http://linuxvm.org/Patches/


Mark Post

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CPINT Question

2005-03-17 Thread Dave Myers
I installed CPINT from the SuSE SLES8 CD.

I am running at SLES8 + SP3

When I enter query commands like   #hcp q dasd
those work

When I enter an ATTACH command it does not work.
I just get the prompt back.

Should HCP be capable of an ATTACH command like:
#hcp attach  linuxguest 

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: New Shark

2005-03-17 Thread dclark
Here are the steps I used to clone the root filesystem to a new volume

Shutdown Linux
Performed a complete full volume backup of original dasd
Restored disk units to new drive assignments
Started Linux
Logged and became root
Execute cd /sys/devices/css0 sans quotes
Ran echo 1   `find | grep 2505 | grep online` sans double quotes
Ran cat /proc/dasd/devices sans quotes which returned the
following:

10.0.1242(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda   : active at
blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, 2347 MB
20.0.150e(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb   : active at
blocksize: 4096, 1803060 blocks, 7043 MB
30.0.1611(ECKD) at ( 94: 8) is dasdc   : active at
blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, 2347 MB
40.0.113e(ECKD) at ( 94:12) is dasdd   : active at
blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, 2347 MB
50.0.2505(ECKD) at ( 94:16) is dasde   : active at
blocksize: 4096, 1803060 blocks, 7043 MB

where dasde is the new device on disk unit address 2505 on line 5

Ran dasdfmt -b 4096 -v -f /dev/dasde sans quotes to prepare the
disk to receive the data.
Ran fdasd /dev/dasde sans quotes and made 3 partitions, for /,
/boot, and swap
Ran mke2fs -b 4096 /dev/dasde1 sans quotes for the /boot
partition making it an ext2 filesystem
Ran mke2fs -j -b 4096 /dev/dasde2 sans quotes for the /
partition making it a journal ext3 filesystem
Used /mntboot as a temporary mount point and mounted the DASD volume
on it using mount /dev/dasde1 /mntboot sans quotes
Used /mnt as a temporary mount point and mounted the DASD volume on
it using mount /dev/dasde2 /mnt sans quotes
Typed cd / sans quotes and hit enter
Ran tar -clpSf - . | (cd /mnt ; tar -xpSf - ) sans quotes to copy
the current root file system to the new volume
Type cd /boot sans quotes and hit enter
Ran tar -clpSf - . | (cd /mntboot ; tar -xpSf - ) to copy the boot
information
Typed cd / sans quotes and hit enter
Ran umount mntboot to remove mntboot
Ran chroot /mnt sans quotes

Ran mount /mnt/boot /dev/dasde1 sans quotes to put

Reviewed /etc/zipl.conf, to verify any device number changes.  The
file is contained below.  Edited line 12 to include new dasd.

1 # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Thu Dec 23 18:03:55 2004
  2
  3
  4
  5 [defaultboot]
  6 default = ipl
  7
  8 [ipl]
  9 target = /boot/zipl
 10 image = /boot/image
 11 ramdisk = /boot/initrd
 12 parameters = dasd=2242,2505,2611,213e root=/dev/dasdb2
selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq
 13
 14 [dumpdasd]
 15 target = /boot/zipl
 16 dumpto = /dev/dasd??
 17
 18 [dumptape]
 19 target = /boot/zipl
 20 dumpto = /dev/rtibm0

Ran mkinitrd
Ran zipl
Ran exit to leave the chroot environment
Ran umount /mnt/boot and umount /mnt to free the new file
system.
Rebooted system.

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Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-17 Thread Klaus Bergmann
 Should HCP be capable of an ATTACH command like:
 #hcp attach  linuxguest 

Try to use quotes: hcp attach  linuxguest 

Freundliche Gruesse,
Klaus Bergmann

Linux Architecture and Performance, IBM Lab Boeblingen

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Re: CPINT Question

2005-03-17 Thread Marco Bosisio
Dave,
maybe that the linux guest  hasn't  cp class  B ..
   Check zVM directory of guest  at statement   :   USER guest_id   psw
128M   512MG


HELP CP ATTACH
..
Authorization

Privilege Class: B
.


Cordiali saluti  / Best regards

Marco




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I installed CPINT from the SuSE SLES8 CD.

I am running at SLES8 + SP3

When I enter query commands like   #hcp q dasd
those work

When I enter an ATTACH command it does not work.
I just get the prompt back.

Should HCP be capable of an ATTACH command like:
#hcp attach  linuxguest 

Thanks,
Dave


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Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:21:53 -0500, Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Neale Ferguson has uploaded a package of mono-1.1.4 RPMs for S/390 to the
 linuxvm.org site.  It's on the large size (~20MB), so be patient if you're
 on a dial up line.

Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is
spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even
looked at it when he is so interested in it...

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