Re: Counties running Linux on a z-Series/System z?
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > > -Original Message- > Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:43:39 -0500 > From:Tom Duerbusch > > Long story. > > The City of St. Louis succeeded from St. Louis County back > in the late 1880's. So the City of St. Louis is also the > County of the City of St. Louis (not to be confused with St. > Louis County). > >>> > > Succeeded at what? I think you meant "seceded" ;-) While the context suggests that "seceded" was intended, it is also possible that the City of St. Louis "succeeded from" (became the successor of the original) St. Louis County. :-) -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Counties running Linux on a z-Series/System z?
I think that both of you were "successful" (or is that secessful?) in explaining that . K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:36 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Counties running Linux on a z-Series/System z? > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > > -Original Message- > Date:Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:43:39 -0500 > From:Tom Duerbusch > > Long story. > > The City of St. Louis succeeded from St. Louis County back > in the late 1880's. So the City of St. Louis is also the > County of the City of St. Louis (not to be confused with St. > Louis County). > >>> > > Succeeded at what? I think you meant "seceded" ;-) While the context suggests that "seceded" was intended, it is also possible that the City of St. Louis "succeeded from" (became the successor of the original) St. Louis County. :-) -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
The complete Knights of VM list
There have been quite a few requests for the complete VM Knights list, so I popped it up on http://vm.marist.edu/track/knights.txt It is a quick job and a simple text file. I will "class" it up a little later! Enjoy. Jim Vincent Sir James, Herder of Cats Linux and VM Program Manager -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Are these files necessary?
I am running SuSE SLES10-SP1. I notice some high space utilization in the
following files:
/var/lib/zypp/cache/*
/var/lib/zmd/zmd.db
I think these files were created while playing with novell-zmd. I use YUP
and a local YUM server to retrieve my updates and then use YaST2 Online
Updates pointing to my YUM server. The question is:
Do I still need these files and/or directory entries? Can I safely delete
them? As always, thanks.
Peter
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IBM Data virtualization
From http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&; articleId=9029558 (or for a while at http://tinyurl.com/2mnd9h ) "IBM is merging its server blade and data integration software technologies to create a data virtualization offering that's supposed to consolidate and move massive amounts of data and make it easier for users to find, the company said Monday." . . . "IBM says the product is energy efficient, using less power and requiring less cooling than larger systems. It runs on Red Hat Inc.'s version of Linux and is built on IBM Blade servers with dual-core Intel Xeon processors." Does anyone know anything about this offering? Jon -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Turning Off Firewall on SLES10 SP1
>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:19 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Fujimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -sniip- > We use Sun UCE (formerly Aduva Onstage) for patch management. Ok, so they are still in the mainframe market. There have been some questions about that recently. Do you have a URL you can share that points to their product information? > It looks like UCE is getting in the way. > I built another SLES10 SP1 machine where I could set the firewall to > manual mode through YAST. > It stops working after I install the UCE agent, and works again after I > uninstall the agent. Glad you fgured it out, and even more glad that you informed the list of the solution. Thanks, Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Are these files necessary?
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 11:00 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am running SuSE SLES10-SP1. I notice some high space utilization in the > following files: > > /var/lib/zypp/cache/* > /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db > > I think these files were created while playing with novell-zmd. I use YUP > and a local YUM server to retrieve my updates and then use YaST2 Online > Updates pointing to my YUM server. The question is: > > Do I still need these files and/or directory entries? Can I safely delete > them? As always, thanks. Yes. You can delete them, and they'll be recreated by zmd, chewing up a lot of I/O and CPU to do so. They're used by zmd (which gets called by YaST) to figure out dependencies, etc. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SSL & firewall mystery
I installed another SLES10 yesterday, and all seemed to go well until I tried to ssh to the new instance. After going nuts for a while I looked in SuSEfirewall2 and saw that the ssh parameter was missing, whereas it exists in my first SLES10 instance. I manually updated the file and its working now. So I'm wondering if I skipped a step during installation? I don't remember (from earlier this year) doing anything special to enable ssh before, but my memory isn't what it used to be either. %) Ray Mrohs U.S. Department of Justice 202-307-6896 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SSL & firewall mystery
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 2:27 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mrohs, Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed another SLES10 yesterday, and all seemed to go well until I > tried to ssh to the new instance. After going nuts for a while I looked > in SuSEfirewall2 and saw that the ssh parameter was missing, whereas it > exists in my first SLES10 instance. I manually updated the file and its > working now. So I'm wondering if I skipped a step during installation? I > don't remember (from earlier this year) doing anything special to enable > ssh before, but my memory isn't what it used to be either. %) After the installation is finished, and the interim reboot has been performed, you're told to SSH back in and run the "finish up" script. During the process of that, you're presented with a network/firewall configuration panel that shows you whether the firewall is going to be enabled or not, whether the SSH port will be open or not, whether remote system administration will be enabled or not. At times, I've seen cases where the SSH port was not enabled. I had to select/click on that to change it from disabled to enabled. Not sure what caused that, but it's easy to avoid. You just have to be watching when that panel comes up. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Solaris on System z????
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/16/sun_ibm_solarisx86/ The above is mainly on IBM selling Solaris on their xSeries boxes. But on the second page: Zeitler sounded bullish about the prospects of running Solaris on the System Z mainframes. "It is certainly something we would like to see happen," he said. "We don't have an agreement signed. (But) you should look to see it happen in the future for sure." In a real shocker, Zeitler also noted that he "would like to see" some Solaris on System P work, which would have Solaris compete head-to-head with AIX. Additionally, Sun and IBM have launched a co-engineering effort to improve the performance of Solaris on IBM's hardware. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Solaris on System z????
For more details, please see: http://www.sinenomine.net/node/607 McKown, John wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/16/sun_ibm_solarisx86/ The above is mainly on IBM selling Solaris on their xSeries boxes. But on the second page: Zeitler sounded bullish about the prospects of running Solaris on the System Z mainframes. "It is certainly something we would like to see happen," he said. "We don't have an agreement signed. (But) you should look to see it happen in the future for sure." In a real shocker, Zeitler also noted that he "would like to see" some Solaris on System P work, which would have Solaris compete head-to-head with AIX. Additionally, Sun and IBM have launched a co-engineering effort to improve the performance of Solaris on IBM's hardware. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OpenSolaris for mainframe articles popping up
Before anyone else asks, yes that's *our* Solaris porting project. http://www.sinenomine.net/node/607 for details. Grr. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Turning Off Firewall on SLES10 SP1
Information on Sun UCE can be found at: www.sun.com/service/sunconnection Jim Fujimoto Mark Post wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:19 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Fujimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -sniip- We use Sun UCE (formerly Aduva Onstage) for patch management. Ok, so they are still in the mainframe market. There have been some questions about that recently. Do you have a URL you can share that points to their product information? It looks like UCE is getting in the way. I built another SLES10 SP1 machine where I could set the firewall to manual mode through YAST. It stops working after I install the UCE agent, and works again after I uninstall the agent. Glad you fgured it out, and even more glad that you informed the list of the solution. Thanks, Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Turning Off Firewall on SLES10 SP1
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 4:20 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Fujimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Information on Sun UCE can be found at: www.sun.com/service/sunconnection Interesting. They only list this: Hardware Platforms * Sun UltraSPARC * AMD Opteron * IA 32: Intel Pentium IV or equivalent How did you find out about support for the mainframe? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Solaris on System z????
> For more details, please see: > http://www.sinenomine.net/node/607 I'd suggest listening to the teleconference. The press coverage is pathetically clueless. Sun also posted an audio file on www.sun.com. INSTANT REPLAY PLUS INFORMATION END DATE: AUG-30-07 07:00 PM (CT) PHONE #: TFREE:800-839-1153 TOLL:203-369-3661 Audio file: http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/2007-0816/index.jsp?intcmp=h p2007aug16_ibm_news_replay -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OpenSolaris for mainframe articles popping up
> > Before anyone else asks, yes that's *our* Solaris porting project. > > http://www.sinenomine.net/node/607 for details. > > Grr. > "... plan to have it available by 3Q 2006." > Misprint? Like I said, the press coverage is pretty incompetent. That phrase isn't in our posting...8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OpenSolaris for mainframe articles popping up
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of David Boyes > > Before anyone else asks, yes that's *our* Solaris porting project. > http://www.sinenomine.net/node/607 for details. > > > > Grr. "... plan to have it available by 3Q 2006." Misprint? -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Solaris on System z????
The stuff that pertains to the System z effort is at around the 4:45 minute mark into the teleconference. On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:23 -0400, David Boyes wrote: > > Audio file: > > http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/2007-0816/index.jsp?intcmp=h > p2007aug16_ibm_news_replay -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IBM Data virtualization
Jon: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/integration/info_server/blade/ Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Turning Off Firewall on SLES10 SP1
We got it when it was still Aduva Onstage and was advertising mainframe support. Nothing changed for us after Sun bought them. They just released SLES10 s390x support last June. Jim Fujimoto Mark Post wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 4:20 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Fujimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Information on Sun UCE can be found at: www.sun.com/service/sunconnection Interesting. They only list this: Hardware Platforms * Sun UltraSPARC * AMD Opteron * IA 32: Intel Pentium IV or equivalent How did you find out about support for the mainframe? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Monitoring zPenguins - with??
Hey Klaus, I've had a great deal of success with Nagios on a couple of different Linux on z/VM systems. It is a simple monitoring tool that is really only limited by your creativity with scripting. One of the benefits for z/VM is the fact that it uses a relatively small foot print and doesn't require any agents sucking up CPU cycles. However the management of Nagios can get a little tricky with 100s of servers that are coming and going rapidly. Without a doubt Nagios can check all of the items you have mentioned, but some will require a little scripting on your part. I've also seen the IBM Tivoli Monitoring framework in action and it is a very impressive tool that can also do what you need (and 1000% more). It really depends on the level of complexity you are looking for and if you want to push the Linux tools on Linux approach or you are willing to go with proprietary solutions. Then again, freshmen students can run ping, df and free right? ;-) Good luck! -Chris Young On 8/15/07, Klaus Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm writing my master's thesis about server consolidation using z/VM and > Linux on zSeries (learning VM as I go along). A part of my work concerns > monitoring. I'm supposed to find the best suited monitoring > product/program for the zPenguins where I am… > > We are running z9 EC, z/VM 5.2, SLES9 with Oracle 10 and a proprietary > software suite (a mix of C, C++, Java programs), which depends on ftp, > ssh, print services etc. > > Among the things we need to monitor are: > - CPU usage (I believe the Linux view will do for now) > - Memory consumption (unexpected swapping) > - Network availability > - Disk space > - Logs files sizes (not Linux logs) > - Service availability: ftp, ssh, oracle (listener) > > We need to send alerts/acknowledgments, when thresholds are exceeded and > shen values are normalized. The alert format has to be customizable > (alerts has to propagate into a larger monitoring setup using a specific > format). > > Until now I have stumbled on the following programs names: > - IBM Tivoli Monitoring > - IBM Tivoli Omegamon XE for Linux on zSeries > - Nagios > - Velocity Software ESALPS > - BMC Mainview > - CA VM:Monitor > > Some of these probably can't do what I'm looking for but I intent to > investigate into that… > > But if any of you could direct my attention to other products/programs, > or rule out any of the above before I start, maybe even give some advice > and recommendations, I would greatly appreciate it. > > Best, > Klaus Johansen > > Lyngby, Denmark > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Monitoring zPenguins - with??
The Hobbit network services monitor (http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/hobbitmon) is also available and runs on Linux for System z. A few people on the list are using it. There are clients available for z/VM and z/VSE and there is a z/OS client in development. Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga, TN - Original Message - From: Chris Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:35 pm Subject: Re: Monitoring zPenguins - with?? To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Hey Klaus, > > I've had a great deal of success with Nagios on a couple of > different Linux > on z/VM systems. It is a simple monitoring tool that is really > only limited > by your creativity with scripting. > > One of the benefits for z/VM is the fact that it uses a relatively > smallfoot print and doesn't require any agents sucking up CPU > cycles. However > the management of Nagios can get a little tricky with 100s of > servers that > are coming and going rapidly. > > Without a doubt Nagios can check all of the items you have > mentioned, but > some will require a little scripting on your part. > > I've also seen the IBM Tivoli Monitoring framework in action and it > is a > very impressive tool that can also do what you need (and 1000% > more).It really depends on the level of complexity you are looking > for and if you > want to push the Linux tools on Linux approach or you are willing > to go with > proprietary solutions. > > Then again, freshmen students can run ping, df and free right? ;-) > > Good luck! > > -Chris Young > > On 8/15/07, Klaus Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm writing my master's thesis about server consolidation using > z/VM and > > Linux on zSeries (learning VM as I go along). A part of my work > concerns> monitoring. I'm supposed to find the best suited monitoring > > product/program for the zPenguins where I am… > > > > We are running z9 EC, z/VM 5.2, SLES9 with Oracle 10 and a > proprietary> software suite (a mix of C, C++, Java programs), which > depends on ftp, > > ssh, print services etc. > > > > Among the things we need to monitor are: > > - CPU usage (I believe the Linux view will do for now) > > - Memory consumption (unexpected swapping) > > - Network availability > > - Disk space > > - Logs files sizes (not Linux logs) > > - Service availability: ftp, ssh, oracle (listener) > > > > We need to send alerts/acknowledgments, when thresholds are > exceeded and > > shen values are normalized. The alert format has to be customizable > > (alerts has to propagate into a larger monitoring setup using a > specific> format). > > > > Until now I have stumbled on the following programs names: > > - IBM Tivoli Monitoring > > - IBM Tivoli Omegamon XE for Linux on zSeries > > - Nagios > > - Velocity Software ESALPS > > - BMC Mainview > > - CA VM:Monitor > > > > Some of these probably can't do what I'm looking for but I intent to > > investigate into that… > > > > But if any of you could direct my attention to other > products/programs,> or rule out any of the above before I start, > maybe even give some advice > > and recommendations, I would greatly appreciate it. > > > > Best, > > Klaus Johansen > > > > Lyngby, Denmark > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX- > 390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX- > 390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
