Applying mount namespaces
Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
I just get a bad URL response. Was there supposed to be something there? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 9/24/07 10:36 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
Worked for me. Watch out for the wrapped line. Steve G. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:15 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Applying mount namespaces I just get a bad URL response. Was there supposed to be something there? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 9/24/07 10:36 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 2:14 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just get a bad URL response. Was there supposed to be something there? Works for me. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
As far as I can tell, the line didn't wrap. The url I tried was: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html And I get a page headed by IBM notice: The page you requested cannot be displayed Might it be an internal only link? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 9/24/07 1:16 PM, Gentry, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worked for me. Watch out for the wrapped line. Steve G. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:15 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Applying mount namespaces I just get a bad URL response. Was there supposed to be something there? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 9/24/07 10:36 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:15 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Applying mount namespaces I just get a bad URL response. Was there supposed to be something there? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 9/24/07 10:36 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html Works for me! I just clicked on the URL in the email. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Create PDFs
I've asked before but now I know more about what I'm talking about (if you can believe that G). We are at a conversion point. Our CICS print output was being coded to a hardware box (IDATA box). And those are going away. The new printers that are wanted, are IP printers and the IDATA box was used with coax attached printers. Apparently, we manually designed printout using PCL code. That is, after sending down a setup string, the program would also send orders like: 1. Print this string using this font. 2. Make the next letter 20 point. 3. Go back to normal pitch and print the next few lines. 4. Change to red, change the font, change the pitch and print the amount. 5. etc. Counting thru this sample program, there are 50+ changes in output, based on the number of times we output PCL code. So, I was wonderingin the 21st century, there must be a better way. I'm thinking something that would take a base report, insert code into it and print it. Take all that crap out of the application program. I'm not tied to a PDF format. The bad part about PDF output is you need a print server to print the output. The new printers don't seem to be pdf printers that can handle PDF internally, and if I can keep from having to buy print servers, so much the better. But then, I could see a Windows box being a development box, that, using the GUI, can make forms design much easier to do and then have the resulting output loaded on a print server. A zLinux solution would be the easiest. Even of the product cost something, I could do a proof of concept during the free trial period. Perhaps even use Linux to print the PDF files. I expect the load to be about 2,000 pages a day, a page at a time across a couple dozen printers. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting FELINE PHYSICS: Law of Cat Motion A cat will move in a straight line, unless there is a really good reason to change direction. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Create PDFs
Tom ... I'm curious why you would pursue a PDF capable printer instead of cranking out PostScript from CICS, or generating PostScript. It's easy to do. PostScript is a 4th-like language (where, for those unfamiliar with it, there was once a language called 4th and PS is like it). I never learned 4th, but was blessed with a PostScript based workstation once upon a time. Good stuff! The nasty part about PostScript is that you have to have a PS interpreter. But if that is built-in to the printer, then you're in business and ready to run. I cannot objectively compare PS to PCL. Perhaps others can. The high point about PS from my perspective is that it is plain text. (That is, version 1 was entirely plain printable characters, though version 2 and up allows binary stuff, but does not to my knowledge require it.) -- R; -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Applying mount namespaces
Wow! Beyond 'chroot'. Can anyone compare this to FreeBSD jails? (Other than the obvious, this works for mortals, not just root.) -- R; On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, McKown, John wrote: Likely known to the advanced people on this list, but a real eye-opener to this z/OS bigot. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-mount-namespaces.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Create PDFs
So, I was wonderingin the 21st century, there must be a better way. I'm thinking something that would take a base report, insert code into it and print it. Take all that crap out of the application program. I'm not tied to a PDF format. The bad part about PDF output is you need a print server to print the output. The new printers don't seem to be pdf printers that can handle PDF internally, and if I can keep from having to buy print servers, so much the better. Use CUPS and RSCS. The combination of the two has a vast majority of the features you describe already in the box, and you could compile the CUPS API library for your other applications, which would give you the ability to specify this sort of stuff independent of the actual print command language. A zLinux solution would be the easiest. Even of the product cost something, I could do a proof of concept during the free trial period. Perhaps even use Linux to print the PDF files. I expect the load to be about 2,000 pages a day, a page at a time across a couple dozen printers. Easy, and CUPS is probably already on your Linux distribution. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Novell Suse vs Red Hat
We are looking at Red Hat and SUSE. Does anyone have any input on which one is better for the z platform. Any advantages or disadvantages? The only difference that I can see is that SUSE seems to be a little ahead on the maintenance releases. I have done some searching but cannot find much more that would help us make this decision. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance... John Eatherly -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell Suse vs Red Hat
I have tried both and have decided that the best way to choose a distribution has nothing to do with their performance on a zSeries. For me, both worked well enough with our web workload, that I would have needed extensive instrumentation (your queue, Barton) to tell the difference. I think there are two other aspects of your installation that will serve as better criteria for picking a distribution. First, look at your expected workload, do you or will you run a particular application that is only or preferentially supported on a particular distribution. This is why we chose SUSE, at the time of our decision, Oracle was supported on SLES 9, so we run SLES 9. If that doesn't give you a clear cut choice, then look to your own staff and see which distribution they are most comfortable with. If we needed to revisit our choice of distribution, we might go with RedHat because we have lots of ad-hoc RedHat (fedora) machines around the network, or OpenSolaris (?) since the nearest help I can get are the Sun/Solaris support staff. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 Eatherly, John D [EQ] wrote: We are looking at Red Hat and SUSE. Does anyone have any input on which one is better for the z platform. Any advantages or disadvantages? The only difference that I can see is that SUSE seems to be a little ahead on the maintenance releases. I have done some searching but cannot find much more that would help us make this decision. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance... John Eatherly -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Create PDFs
On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Rick Troth wrote: PostScript is a 4th-like language (where, for those unfamiliar with it, there was once a language called 4th and PS is like it). Forth. Pedantically yrs, Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell Suse vs Red Hat
Eatherly, John D [EQ] wrote: We are looking at Red Hat and SUSE. Does anyone have any input on which one is better for the z platform. Any advantages or disadvantages? The only difference that I can see is that SUSE seems to be a little ahead on the maintenance releases. I have done some searching but cannot find much more that would help us make this decision. Any input on this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance... John Eatherly If Thomas' advice doesn't help, then get evaluation versions of each and try them for yourself. You could even try Debian: Debian doesn't provide professional support, but that doesn't mean nobody does. In my experience (peecees) Debian has some rough edges, but it compensates for that with the enormous choice of (FSF) Free software. Almost any free software anyone here can suggest, is part of Debian. The current distro takes not one, nor even two, but three DVDs. And then there's the source. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
