Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 10/26/2007 at 09:47 EDT, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> There are - the cluster computing people have a pile of tools for
issuing
> the same commands on many boxes at once and they'll work for virtual
> machines.

On VM you can use the CP SEND command from the central server.  No extra
software on the guests required.  This kind of thing works best, however,
if the guests are configured to bypass the login prompt when they boot.
Otherwise you have to authenticate if not already logged in.

> That said: LDAP is probably what you want to consider instead as its
> designed for this sort of central management.

LDAP is also a good bet as you tend not to fall afoul of security policies
and auditors.  They know LDAP and it is likely already on their "A" list.
A home-grown solution may create more headaches than it solves.  Even with
CP SEND, any class C user can send commands anonymously (from Linux's
point of view).

Alan Altmark
z/VM Security Weasel
IBM Endicott

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Re: brain cramp on versioning info

2007-10-26 Thread John Summerfield

CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote:

rpm -q for software installed using rpms
or for kernel info you can use:
uname -v



rpm -qa --qf ''
rpm -qd rpm
06:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa kern\* --qf '%{name}
%{version}\t%{release}  %{arch} %{license}\n'
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.4.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.10.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.14.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.3.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-PAE 2.6.18   8.1.8.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.8.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-PAE 2.6.18   8.1.14.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.15.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.8.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.3.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-PAE 2.6.18   8.1.15.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-doc 2.6.18   8.1.15.el5  noarch GPLv2
kernel-headers 2.6.18   8.1.15.el5  i386 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.4.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-PAE 2.6.18   8.1.10.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.14.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-PAE 2.6.18   8.1.4.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel-xen 2.6.18   8.1.10.el5  i686 GPLv2
kernel 2.6.18   8.1.15.el5  i686 GPLv2
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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Larry Ploetz
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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
I always "visualize" these as one command, as:

mkinitrd && zipl

This way, if mkinitrd is successful, then zipl runs immediately after, which
is what I want. If you start typing it in this way, you'll be less likely to
forget the second step.

Now, if I could just remember to do the first step

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On 10/26/07 3:03 PM, "Ron Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the great input.  I  remade  the initrd  then didn't run the
> zipl command.  Well, I said I was a rookie.
>
> THanks for the responses.
>
> Ron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Mark Post
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:28 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM
>
 On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at  1:20 PM, in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We run over 30 3390 mod 27 devices in a single Linux image w/o
>> problems. Did you extend the /dev/dasd devices past /dev/dasdz? This
>> could account for the problem... Although 800-81f is 31 devices, so I
> may be way off base.
>
> If he's running RHEL4 or 5, udev should be taking care of creating any
> device nodes he needs.  I suspect the problem is he didn't rebuild his
> initrd, as someone else pointed out.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Ron Henry
Thanks for the great input.  I  remade  the initrd  then didn't run the
zipl command.  Well, I said I was a rookie.

THanks for the responses.

Ron 

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Mark Post
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:28 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at  1:20 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> We run over 30 3390 mod 27 devices in a single Linux image w/o 
> problems. Did you extend the /dev/dasd devices past /dev/dasdz? This 
> could account for the problem... Although 800-81f is 31 devices, so I
may be way off base.

If he's running RHEL4 or 5, udev should be taking care of creating any
device nodes he needs.  I suspect the problem is he didn't rebuild his
initrd, as someone else pointed out.


Mark Post

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Re: brain cramp on versioning info

2007-10-26 Thread LJ Mace
SPident..Good Lord I couldn't think of it

thanks
Mace
--- Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:15 PM, in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, LJ
> Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: 
> > What the heck is the command to find the
> version(s) of
> > software your on?
> > I remember it is  - but for the life of me
> I
> > can't remember the exact command
> 
> I'm guessing you're thinking of SPident.  If so, you
> don't really need the -v switches unless you want
> the gory details of why you're not completely up to
> date.
> 
> 
> Mark Post
> 
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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at  1:20 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> We run over 30 3390 mod 27 devices in a single Linux image w/o problems. Did
> you extend the /dev/dasd devices past /dev/dasdz? This could account for the
> problem... Although 800-81f is 31 devices, so I may be way off base.

If he's running RHEL4 or 5, udev should be taking care of creating any device 
nodes he needs.  I suspect the problem is he didn't rebuild his initrd, as 
someone else pointed out.


Mark Post

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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Hall, Ken (GTI)
Udev should handle this on recent versions of Red Hat (RHEL).

The nodes will automatically be built from dasda-dasdz, then
dasdaa-dasdzz, and dasdaaa-dasdzzz.

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We run over 30 3390 mod 27 devices in a single Linux image w/o problems.
Did
you extend the /dev/dasd devices past /dev/dasdz? This could account for
the
problem... Although 800-81f is 31 devices, so I may be way off base.

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On 10/26/07 10:59 AM, "Hall, Ken (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is your dasd driver a module, and are you using an initrd?
>
> If this is the case, the range is taken from /etc/modprobe.conf in the
> initrd, not /etc.  You need to rebuild the initrd and reboot.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Ron Henry
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [LINUX-390] "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM
>
>
> I have a RedHat Linux machine on  zVM 5.2 and I am trying to put about
> 40 3390 mod 9s on it.  Each device is a full-pack minidisk.
>
> The machine boots up fine and runs but doesn't have all its dasd.
>
> a "#CP Q V DASD" shows that the Linux machine has all the DASD mapped
to
> virtual addresses 800-82B.
>
> The /proc/dasd/devices only goes as far as 81F.  Likewise the
/dev/dasd.
>
> My /etc/zipl.conf allows for 800-83F.
>
> What have I messed-up here?  I am still new to Linux on VM.

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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
We run over 30 3390 mod 27 devices in a single Linux image w/o problems. Did
you extend the /dev/dasd devices past /dev/dasdz? This could account for the
problem... Although 800-81f is 31 devices, so I may be way off base.

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On 10/26/07 10:59 AM, "Hall, Ken (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is your dasd driver a module, and are you using an initrd?
>
> If this is the case, the range is taken from /etc/modprobe.conf in the
> initrd, not /etc.  You need to rebuild the initrd and reboot.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Ron Henry
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [LINUX-390] "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM
>
>
> I have a RedHat Linux machine on  zVM 5.2 and I am trying to put about
> 40 3390 mod 9s on it.  Each device is a full-pack minidisk.
>
> The machine boots up fine and runs but doesn't have all its dasd.
>
> a "#CP Q V DASD" shows that the Linux machine has all the DASD mapped to
> virtual addresses 800-82B.
>
> The /proc/dasd/devices only goes as far as 81F.  Likewise the /dev/dasd.
>
> My /etc/zipl.conf allows for 800-83F.
>
> What have I messed-up here?  I am still new to Linux on VM.

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Re: brain cramp on versioning info

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:15 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, LJ Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: 
> What the heck is the command to find the version(s) of
> software your on?
> I remember it is  - but for the life of me I
> can't remember the exact command

I'm guessing you're thinking of SPident.  If so, you don't really need the -v 
switches unless you want the gory details of why you're not completely up to 
date.


Mark Post

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Re: brain cramp on versioning info

2007-10-26 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
rpm -q for software installed using rpms
or for kernel info you can use:
uname -v

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Subject: brain cramp on versioning info

What the heck is the command to find the version(s) of
software your on?
I remember it is  - but for the life of me I
can't remember the exact command
thanks
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brain cramp on versioning info

2007-10-26 Thread LJ Mace
What the heck is the command to find the version(s) of
software your on?
I remember it is  - but for the life of me I
can't remember the exact command
thanks
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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Hall, Ken (GTI)
Is your dasd driver a module, and are you using an initrd?

If this is the case, the range is taken from /etc/modprobe.conf in the
initrd, not /etc.  You need to rebuild the initrd and reboot.


-Original Message-
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Ron Henry
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM


I have a RedHat Linux machine on  zVM 5.2 and I am trying to put about
40 3390 mod 9s on it.  Each device is a full-pack minidisk.

The machine boots up fine and runs but doesn't have all its dasd.

a "#CP Q V DASD" shows that the Linux machine has all the DASD mapped to
virtual addresses 800-82B.

The /proc/dasd/devices only goes as far as 81F.  Likewise the /dev/dasd.

My /etc/zipl.conf allows for 800-83F.

What have I messed-up here?  I am still new to Linux on VM.  

Any help greatfully appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Henry


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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:31 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> However, TAR and PAX archives store the UID 
> (depending on some command line options), so they tend to cause the owner of 
> a file to be wrong when restored on a different system then the one they were 
> created.

>From what I've experienced, GNU tar stores uid/gid _and_ username/groupname.  
>During the extract process, if the same user and group are on the system, it 
>uses them.  If not, it restores things using uid/gid.

> Basically it is a good idea to coordinate all the UIDs on all systems to 
> avoid problems.

Agreed.


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Re: "Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Gary Detro
My guess is that you have not gone into YAST and activated them if it
SuSE.


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I have a RedHat Linux machine on  zVM 5.2 and I am trying to put about
40 3390 mod 9s on it.  Each device is a full-pack minidisk.

The machine boots up fine and runs but doesn't have all its dasd.

a "#CP Q V DASD" shows that the Linux machine has all the DASD mapped to
virtual addresses 800-82B.

The /proc/dasd/devices only goes as far as 81F.  Likewise the /dev/dasd.

My /etc/zipl.conf allows for 800-83F.

What have I messed-up here?  I am still new to Linux on VM.

Any help greatfully appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Henry


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"Large" Number of DASD on zLinux on zVM

2007-10-26 Thread Ron Henry
I have a RedHat Linux machine on  zVM 5.2 and I am trying to put about
40 3390 mod 9s on it.  Each device is a full-pack minidisk.

The machine boots up fine and runs but doesn't have all its dasd.

a "#CP Q V DASD" shows that the Linux machine has all the DASD mapped to
virtual addresses 800-82B.

The /proc/dasd/devices only goes as far as 81F.  Likewise the /dev/dasd.

My /etc/zipl.conf allows for 800-83F.

What have I messed-up here?  I am still new to Linux on VM.  

Any help greatfully appreciated.

Thanks,

Ron Henry


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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Fargusson.Alan
A little off topic, but coordinating UIDs doesn't matter to FTP because you 
supply a username when you login.  With SCP and SFTP you can supply the 
username, but the default is the name you logged in with, but it does not use 
the UID (it uses the name).  However, TAR and PAX archives store the UID 
(depending on some command line options), so they tend to cause the owner of a 
file to be wrong when restored on a different system then the one they were 
created.

Basically it is a good idea to coordinate all the UIDs on all systems to avoid 
problems.

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Actually, for users across multiple systems, I think LDAP is your friend.
You can restrict users to specific Linux guests, a single password change
effects the user across all the systems, it enforces the uid being the same
across all the systems (important if you use nfs or ftp...) and you have a
single point for account maintenance.

There's some effort in setting it up, but in the end, it will save you
considerable time.

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On 10/26/07 8:17 AM, "CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)"
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> Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
> reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
> multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
> have a question.
>
> Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
> commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
> method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
> resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
> be?
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
> James Chaplin
> Systems Programmer
> USCBP
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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
To expand James' answer a bit (I've never used the chpasswd command):

for I in system1 system2 system3 ; do
  ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'echo "user:newpass" | chpasswd'
done

The list of systems could be given by hand, as above, or could be pulled
from a file, as in "for I in `cat system.names` ; do" (not sure what the
various e-mail programs will do with that, but those are back-ticks around
the cat command.

You can speed this process up by trading a public key with all the servers
involved, such that you wouldn't need to enter a password for each server.
With that in mind, it would be a better idea to use another, properly
privledged userid, other than root, to perform the task. Maybe go with "ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'echo "user:newpass" | sudo chpasswd'", and pass around a 
public
key for "pswdguy".

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On 10/26/07 8:45 AM, "Richard Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote:
>> Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
>> reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
>> multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
>> have a question.
>>
>> Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
>> commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
>> method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
>> resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
>> be?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
>> James Chaplin
>> Systems Programmer
>> USCBP
>>
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> LDAP is clearly the perferred solution for this situation.  However, if
> you don't want to do that see chpasswd.  Somthing like...
>
> echo 'user:newpass' | chpasswd
>
> ... could be pushed out to the other servers using ssh.
>
> ~rich
>
>
>
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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Calvin Fisher

Since you are running on VM. It should be easy to come up with an exec that
would use secuser to issue passwd commands to every linux server.

Calvin Fisher




   
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Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
have a question.

Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
be?

Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
James Chaplin
Systems Programmer
USCBP

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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread José L . Ramírez
Hi James,

Maybe you can take a look at multixterm 
(http://expect.nist.gov/example/multixterm.man.html). I haven't used it but it 
seems to provide what you are looking for, before using the utility you need to 
install expect and tk.

Regards,

Jose

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To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

Actually, for users across multiple systems, I think LDAP is your friend.
You can restrict users to specific Linux guests, a single password change
effects the user across all the systems, it enforces the uid being the same
across all the systems (important if you use nfs or ftp...) and you have a
single point for account maintenance.

There's some effort in setting it up, but in the end, it will save you
considerable time.

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   /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW
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 in practice, theory and practice are different."




On 10/26/07 8:17 AM, "CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
> reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
> multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
> have a question.
>
> Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
> commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
> method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
> resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
> be?
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
> James Chaplin
> Systems Programmer
> USCBP
>
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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
> Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
> commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
> method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to

There are - the cluster computing people have a pile of tools for issuing
the same commands on many boxes at once and they'll work for virtual
machines.

That said: LDAP is probably what you want to consider instead as its
designed for this sort of central management.

See: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/dsh.html

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/execute-commands-on-multiple-hosts-using-expect-tool-part-iii.html

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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread Richard Lynch

CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote:

Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
have a question.

Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
be?

Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
James Chaplin
Systems Programmer
USCBP

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LDAP is clearly the perferred solution for this situation.  However, if
you don't want to do that see chpasswd.  Somthing like...

echo 'user:newpass' | chpasswd

... could be pushed out to the other servers using ssh.

~rich




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Re: Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread RPN01
Actually, for users across multiple systems, I think LDAP is your friend.
You can restrict users to specific Linux guests, a single password change
effects the user across all the systems, it enforces the uid being the same
across all the systems (important if you use nfs or ftp...) and you have a
single point for account maintenance.

There's some effort in setting it up, but in the end, it will save you
considerable time.

--
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   /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW
  /( )\   507-284-0844  Rochester, MN 55905
  ^^-^^   -
"In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
 in practice, theory and practice are different."




On 10/26/07 8:17 AM, "CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
> reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
> multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
> have a question.
>
> Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
> commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
> method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
> resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
> be?
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
> James Chaplin
> Systems Programmer
> USCBP
>
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Changing password on multiple zLinux servers

2007-10-26 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Running zLinux as Guests on zVM is fantastic until it comes time to
reset your password across multiple servers. The guest servers are
multiply like rabbits. We are a shop new to Linux on the mainframe and
have a question. 

Is there a way to apply without using LDAP, or to issue a series of
commands like passwd across multiple servers either through SSH or other
method from a single server. Where should I point my "learning curve" to
resolve this? I am new to scripting, but how different from REXX can it
be?

Thanks in advance for any comments and insight
James Chaplin
Systems Programmer
USCBP

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