Re: What distribution and why?
Phil Smith III wrote: Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. If English is good enough for Elisabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor/Saxe-Coburg-Gotha/Hanover, it is good enough for me ;-) mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
Phil, thanks for the explanation of the phrase I used. You are right, I meant Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? and was slightly surprised about the answers. Hubert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Gesendet: 16.04.08 04:49:36 An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: What distribution and why? Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to help! I believe the confusion here is due to what looked like a slightly idiomatic American usage -- What EXACTLY is your problem??? -- which translates to Hey, jerk, what is wrong with you? Are you stupid or what?. I'd bet large sums that Hubert Kleinmanns didn't mean it that way, and was instead asking, Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. And once again, the professionalism and courtesy of the VM and z/Linux community avoids bloodshed... ...phsiii (Feeling proud to be a Vmer today) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Hubert Kleinmanns Beratung / Schulung / Projektleitung Chairman der WG WebSphere MQ and Business Integration in der GSE, deutsche Region. Tel.: +49 (0) 60 78 / 7 12 21 Fax: +49 (0) 60 78 / 7 12 25 Mobil: +49 (0) 178 / 6 97 22 54 Web: www.kleinmanns.eu GSE: www.gsenet.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
Mark Perry wrote: Phil Smith III wrote: Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. If English is good enough for Elisabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor/Saxe-Coburg-Gotha/Hanover, it is good enough for me ;-) aka Lizzie. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
As for me (an ex UKer), I never took Hubert's request to be other than just that (IOW, no offense taken). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What distribution and why? Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to help! I believe the confusion here is due to what looked like a slightly idiomatic American usage -- What EXACTLY is your problem??? -- which translates to Hey, jerk, what is wrong with you? Are you stupid or what?. I'd bet large sums that Hubert Kleinmanns didn't mean it that way, and was instead asking, Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. And once again, the professionalism and courtesy of the VM and z/Linux community avoids bloodshed... ...phsiii (Feeling proud to be a Vmer today) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
Hubert Kleinmanns wrote: Phil, thanks for the explanation of the phrase I used. You are right, I meant Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? and was slightly surprised about the answers. Just don't call anyone penurious, or there will be an international incident:-) -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
n Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Hubert Kleinmanns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the explanation of the phrase I used. You are right, I meant Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? and was slightly surprised about the answers. :-) Such things can be hard for us aliens Like when my female co-worker told me two others were seeing each other and it took a while before I got that message. And when she left the room saying see you later I was a little worried... Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Has anyone order z/VM from ShopZseries?
Thanks Les You are right. How do we order z/VM and not get z/VM? (rhetorical). I do not know what went wrong but we ordered it again. The problem with fool proof methods is that they only account for the fools I guess. Peter Les Geer (607-429-3580) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/15/2008 09:41 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Has anyone order z/VM from ShopZseries? According to Sue Baloga, it looks like this order consisted of DFSMS only, which could be a valid VM/SDO order. You can order the z/VM base system and/or optional licensed products. When anything is ordered through the VM/SDO,base or LP, the optional product enabling aid is also shipped. The installation instructions has two links; one for the operating system (z/VM System Deliverable) and one for the optional licensed products (z/VM Licensed Products). If you ordered optional products only, you should use the second link Here's what the page looks like: IBM Systems System z z/VM Installation Instructions for Electronically Delivered z/VM System Deliverable and Licensed Products. For instructions on installing the electronic files (zip) for the z/VM Operating System go to: * Installation Instructions for Electronically Delivered z/VM System Deliverable For instructions on installing the electronic product envelope (servlink) files for z/VM Licensed Products go to: * Installation Instructions for Electronically Delivered z/VM License Products If doesn't appear the base operating system (z/VM System Deliverable) was ordered. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development I ordered z/VM V5.3 from ShopZseries and received the following downloads: Opt Prod Enabling Aid Download ? V6720401.TERS0014 (0.730 MB) DFSMS/VM FL221 Download ? V6720403.TERS0014 (63.8 MB) DFSMS/VM Kanji Download ? V6720402.TERS0004 (2.8 MB) and some electronic Documentation. The doc refers to zip files and creating DVDs but this is all I see. Am I= correct in assuming there is more to z/VM 5.3 and that something is missing? Thanks. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: recover root password
This is one of the problems I've had learning Linux: There are Linux defaults, and then there are different defaults created by the various distributions, and it's hard to tell which are which. Linux is a single operating system that never acts the same from machine to machine (much like Windows, but for different reasons). -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 4/15/08 4:20 PM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RPN01 wrote: By default, sudo expects root's password. That is not what the man page says, It _is_ the way SUSE configures it. -- Cheers John -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Vswitch and subnets
Good morning, Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle does VIP address fail over. This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on each and a linux (rhel 44). On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet. Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.* Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.* Oracle on linux on system A has Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1 Oracle on linux on system B has Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 * The problem; If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address of the lost system. So now system B linux looks like this; Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle VIP 192.168.127.2 ETH0:2 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch, but it can not be routed to. Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still on the other system... Thank you, Paul... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
Evans, Kevin R wrote: As for me (an ex UKer), I never took Hubert's request to be other than just that (IOW, no offense taken). Being orstrayun, I immediately saw both meanings and wondered what all the fuss was about. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vswitch and subnets
I suggest using the same Network for Oracle VIP on both sides. You need to : System A Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.1 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.1 ETH2 System B Home address 192.168.127.2 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.2 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.2 ETH2 Jakub Szefler Administrator MainFrame Pion Operacji IT Grupy TP/Departament Infrastruktury Wydział Infrastruktury Informatycznej Dział Mainframe __ Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayer, Paul W Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:26 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vswitch and subnets Good morning, Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle does VIP address fail over. This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on each and a linux (rhel 44). On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet. Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.* Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.* Oracle on linux on system A has Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1 Oracle on linux on system B has Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 * The problem; If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address of the lost system. So now system B linux looks like this; Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle VIP 192.168.127.2 ETH0:2 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch, but it can not be routed to. Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still on the other system... Thank you, Paul... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vswitch and subnets
So we should really setup a subnet for just the vip's Then spilt that subnet between two systems and advertise 1/2 from each Vswitch then .. sounds like ... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Szefler Jakub Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch and subnets I suggest using the same Network for Oracle VIP on both sides. You need to : System A Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.1 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.1 ETH2 System B Home address 192.168.127.2 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.2 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.2 ETH2 Jakub Szefler Administrator MainFrame Pion Operacji IT Grupy TP/Departament Infrastruktury Wydział Infrastruktury Informatycznej Dział Mainframe __ Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayer, Paul W Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:26 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vswitch and subnets Good morning, Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle does VIP address fail over. This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on each and a linux (rhel 44). On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet. Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.* Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.* Oracle on linux on system A has Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1 Oracle on linux on system B has Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 * The problem; If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address of the lost system. So now system B linux looks like this; Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle VIP 192.168.127.2 ETH0:2 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch, but it can not be routed to. Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still on the other system... Thank you, Paul... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vswitch and subnets
Ahhh now comes my problem. Oracle itself creates ETH0:1 (ie: it's not defined in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts file where ETH0 and ETH1 are defined ) So .. it maybe better to create an Oracle only subnet and Oracle only Vswitch then support 1/2 of the subnet on each system ... Seems link these systems need to be in the same subnet ... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Szefler Jakub Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch and subnets I suggest using the same Network for Oracle VIP on both sides. You need to : System A Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.1 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.1 ETH2 System B Home address 192.168.127.2 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.128.2 ETH1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.2 ETH2 Jakub Szefler Administrator MainFrame Pion Operacji IT Grupy TP/Departament Infrastruktury Wydział Infrastruktury Informatycznej Dział Mainframe __ Treść tej wiadomości zawiera informacje przeznaczone tylko dla adresata. Jeżeli nie jesteście Państwo jej adresatem, bądź otrzymaliście ją przez pomyłkę, prosimy o powiadomienie o tym nadawcy oraz trwałe jej usunięcie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayer, Paul W Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:26 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Vswitch and subnets Good morning, Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle does VIP address fail over. This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on each and a linux (rhel 44). On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet. Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.* Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.* Oracle on linux on system A has Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1 Oracle on linux on system B has Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 * The problem; If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address of the lost system. So now system B linux looks like this; Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle VIP 192.168.127.2 ETH0:2 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch, but it can not be routed to. Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still on the other system... Thank you, Paul... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Vswitch and subnets
The vswitch doesn't really advertise. You can do a couple of things. Get both of your systems hooked to the same subnet (vlan). We've done that. Or get a vip address on a new subnet (like a /30 of your own) and run a routing protocol (zebra, quagga) on your linuxes. A vswitch can be part of more than one subnet, but you do have to set it up that way out in the network. So you could give both system A and system B access to both subnets you have today. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ayer, Paul W Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:26 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Vswitch and subnets Good morning, Running Oracle RAC and having a problem with supporting the way Oracle does VIP address fail over. This environment has two z9 systems running z/VM 5.3 with Vswitch on each and a linux (rhel 44). On each z/VM the Vswitch is setup to support a specific subnet. Vswitch on System A side supports 192.168.127.* Vswitch on System B side supports 192.168.87.* Oracle on linux on system A has Home address 192.168.127.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.127.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.127.3 ETH1 Oracle on linux on system B has Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 * The problem; If something happens on the system A side and access is lost (at any level) Oracle on the system B side brings up via ETH0:2 the VIP address of the lost system. So now system B linux looks like this; Home address 192.168.87.1 ETH0 Oracle VIP192.168.87.2 ETH0:1 Oracle VIP 192.168.127.2 ETH0:2 Oracle Priv192.168.87.3 ETH1 A Q VSWITCH DET shows the 192.168.127.2 address known in the Vswitch, but it can not be routed to. Is there anything that can be done in he Vswitch to help advertise just this address only, since all the other 192.168.127.* addresses are still on the other system... Thank you, Paul... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
As someone said to me when I was in England last fall: Two peoples separated by a common language. Dave (from sunny California) Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/16/2008 3:20 AM As for me (an ex UKer), I never took Hubert's request to be other than just that (IOW, no offense taken). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What distribution and why? Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to help! I believe the confusion here is due to what looked like a slightly idiomatic American usage -- What EXACTLY is your problem??? -- which translates to Hey, jerk, what is wrong with you? Are you stupid or what?. I'd bet large sums that Hubert Kleinmanns didn't mean it that way, and was instead asking, Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. And once again, the professionalism and courtesy of the VM and z/Linux community avoids bloodshed... ...phsiii (Feeling proud to be a Vmer today) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: recover root password
The root of this problem is that Linux is only the kernel. Red Hat, SuSE, etc. are distributions that package the Linux kernel with various utilities (mostly GNU). Since they do their own compiling and configuration of the utilities some of the defaults are different. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:27 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: recover root password This is one of the problems I've had learning Linux: There are Linux defaults, and then there are different defaults created by the various distributions, and it's hard to tell which are which. Linux is a single operating system that never acts the same from machine to machine (much like Windows, but for different reasons). -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 4/15/08 4:20 PM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RPN01 wrote: By default, sudo expects root's password. That is not what the man page says, It _is_ the way SUSE configures it. -- Cheers John -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What distribution and why?
Nah, there are more the 2 peoples over there g. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What distribution and why? As someone said to me when I was in England last fall: Two peoples separated by a common language. Dave (from sunny California) Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/16/2008 3:20 AM As for me (an ex UKer), I never took Hubert's request to be other than just that (IOW, no offense taken). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:49 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What distribution and why? Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to help! I believe the confusion here is due to what looked like a slightly idiomatic American usage -- What EXACTLY is your problem??? -- which translates to Hey, jerk, what is wrong with you? Are you stupid or what?. I'd bet large sums that Hubert Kleinmanns didn't mean it that way, and was instead asking, Can you be more specific about the issue you found with MQ and SUSE? Once again, infernal English leads to what could (and would have, on most lists!) been an international incident. And once again, the professionalism and courtesy of the VM and z/Linux community avoids bloodshed... ...phsiii (Feeling proud to be a Vmer today) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SWAPGEN version 0801 available for download.
Due to a Linux guest being autologged with a parm passed, the PROFILE EXEC which calls SWAPGEN twice to create 2 VDSKs had something in the stack. This caused the first invocation of SWAPGEN to fail (I believe because SWAPGEN is queueing responses to FORMAT). (also posted to IBMVM, to catch any folks who don't read LINUX-390) I've just posted an updated version of SWAPGEN to http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/swapgen. Version 0801 contains a fix to this issue, which preserves the stack contents in case you might want them for something. Version 0801 provides two new options: VERSION -- displays the version number and build date of the exec you have. SWAPGEN exits with rc=4 if you specify the VERSION option. DEBUG -- displays debugging information that is useful for following the program logic. This option is off by default. The new version is supplied as a VMARC file (SWPG0801 VMARC). Follow the usual instructions on downloading and processing VMARC files (binary mode, reblock to F 80, etc). Note that I left the previous version in place as well (SWAPGEN5.EXEC). There are some popular documents that refer to that location. New installs or updates to previous installs should use the version in the VMARC file. If you desparately need earlier versions, ask me and I'll find them again. For extra fun and games, I also added the CMS update control files, patch files and update logs for the EXEC and HELP files to the VMARC. If you just want to update your copy of SWAPGEN, you only need the files SWAPGEN EXEC and SWAPGEN HELPCMS. At some point (when I get some free time), I'll post the version that supports message repositories and full internationalization of the messages. Bugs can be politely reported to me. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: recover root password
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Malcolm Beattie wrote: | | Quick plug: I'll be covering Linux native tools for auditing | (auditd/auditctl), accounting (acct/sa) and other things beginning | with A[1] in my technical session at the z Tech Conference in | Dresden next month. | | There are trade-offs involved in enabling such things but if you | really want to audit everything root does, you can. | Looked at these. Just wished there was an easy and obvious way to send audit records to syslog, and thus off-node. As far as I can tell from the man pages, though, while auditd will report it's own operational errors to syslog, there's no option to write audit records there. Yes, I know, it stores them by default in binary format. Yes, I know it's possible to whip up some post processing script to do what I want. ~ Unfortunately, such hacked together solutions are never as clean as properly coded application support ... This is one specific function where Solaris already has it: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-5175/audit-syslog-5?a=view - -- Pat -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIBqTtNObCqA8uBswRAs6RAKCYv7hJ99gkjrwC0RNTMCL5bUTE3ACfV/OZ MBPvugy+Y8wAO0rsguYTcRg= =hldL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
