Difference between Layer 2 and Layer 3 Vswicth
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Re: Recover a root disk
Hello list, Just to follow up on this. I have tried the tools, especially ext3undel did help in some way. Ext3undel requires some of the tools from sleuthkit. All the tools, sleuthkit, testdisk, ext3del and foremost, did compile quite easy. Just ./configure, make and make install and the tools were available. (Just remember to install requirements like devel-rpm's) With ext3undel I was able to recover quite a lot of files from the disk. I needed a second disk to hold the files that were recovered, in total close to 2G was recovered. The fragments that were recovered were not saved in their original name. Instead they got, I think, named after the inode. Next I scanned the files with grep for specific words like kernel: or the hostname. I was able to find some fragments of a /var/log/messages and several files from the /etc but unfortunatly I only found fragments from November 20th and earlier. Nothing for the 26th. I guess these files are not available anymore, possibly the inodes got reused by some processes that were still running after the filesystem was corrupted. I think we can't recover the files we need to investigate the cause of the problem but it was a nice trip to get to this conclusion :-). Thanks for your help. Regards, Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: vrijdag 28 november 2008 11:25 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Recover a root disk On my x86 RedHat system I have two useful packages: testtool - which supplies photorec - homepage http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk ext3undel - supplies scripts to recover deleted files via photorec - homepage http://www.izzysoft.de/ Can't see these for s390x, but perhaps now there is a market. mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RHEL 2.4 on Z9
David Boyes wrote: I could be wrong, but I think the first 390-enabled RHEL was RHEL 3.x. 2.4 is really, really ancient. I think you are wrong; I probably am. I'm told it's a genetic failing in men. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RHEL 2.4 on Z9
Going to try and help out David here, and Like David I may be wrong, but I don't see a RHEL 2.1 AS for any platform other than ia64 and i386. -Eric On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Boyes wrote: I could be wrong, but I think the first 390-enabled RHEL was RHEL 3.x. 2.4 is really, really ancient. I think you are wrong; I probably am. I'm told it's a genetic failing in men. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Difference between Layer 2 and Layer 3 Vswicth
On 12/2/2008 at 8:42 AM, Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, From Linux: - Take the interface down ifdown eth0 - Take the interface offline ??? What command to take interface offline ? chccwdev -d 0.0. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Lin_tape compatibility with particular kernel version
We are running suse sles9 t64 bit kernel version Linux version 2.6.5-7.244-s390x ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 What version of lin_tape will run here? Or, will IBMtape v 3.0.5 support ts1120 with and without encryption? Been on the ibm site, but that thing is a nightmare for a blind person using a screen reader. Thanks anyone for the help. Pointers to documents welcome. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University phone: 765-285-1310 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RHEL 2.4 on Z9
On 12/2/2008 at 10:50 AM, Eric Sammons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Going to try and help out David here, and Like David I may be wrong, but I don't see a RHEL 2.1 AS for any platform other than ia64 and i386. The very first versions of Red Hat for the mainframe were Red Hat Linux 7.2 for 31-bit systems, and Red Hat Linux 7.1 for 64-bit systems. Note that these did _not_ include Enterprise in the names. When we were writing the Distributions Redbook, only 31-bit versions of Linux were available, and only a beta test version of Red Hat Linux 7.2 for S/390 was available. When we were writing the book, it had a 2.2.19-0.07 kernel, and an experimental (never worked for me) 2.4.3 kernel. The GA version of 7.2 was announced on December 19, 2001. After 7.2/7.1, the next version released was indeed Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 for S/390 and zSeries in 2003. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS
I have a couple questions about connecting to ldap from Suse linux. - Does anyone have experience using the MVS ldap server for Z/linux authentication. Suse seems to ship with that functionality included, but I have been unable to get it to work. Are there addicional schema objects that must be installed to support linux authentication? - I am also trying to do ldap authentication in a php page. I have installed the PHP5-ldap package, but my php page is failing to make the ldap connection. I don't see any ldap related error in the apache log, so I am not sure what exactly is happening. Is it possible that the ldap errors are going to a different log file? Are there additional php packages that must be installed to make it work? Thanks a lot for your help, Russell Jones -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Lin_tape compatibility with particular kernel version
Gary, Check ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Linux/lin_tape_source-lin_taped/ The install.readme contains instructions on the source build of the driver and the lin_taped is right there. In ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Linux/archive/ you will also find prebuilt versions for SLES9 and early SLES10. But they stopped prebuilding as there were too many variants (I think). Don't use IBMtape, it is ancient. Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Lee, Gary D. Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2008 20:11 Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: Lin_tape compatibility with particular kernel version We are running suse sles9 t64 bit kernel version Linux version 2.6.5-7.244-s390x ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 What version of lin_tape will run here? Or, will IBMtape v 3.0.5 support ts1120 with and without encryption? Been on the ibm site, but that thing is a nightmare for a blind person using a screen reader. Thanks anyone for the help. Pointers to documents welcome. Gary Lee Senior System Programmer Ball State University phone: 765-285-1310 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Brabant Water N.V. Postbus 1068 5200 BC 's-Hertogenbosch http://www.brabantwater.nl Handelsregister: 16005077 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS
There's a redpaper that talks about this. See: Securing Linux for zSeries with a Central z/OS LDAP Server You might also want to check out the ABC's redbooks (which ever one deals with RACF and security). Jones, Russell wrote: I have a couple questions about connecting to ldap from Suse linux. - Does anyone have experience using the MVS ldap server for Z/linux authentication. Suse seems to ship with that functionality included, but I have been unable to get it to work. Are there addicional schema objects that must be installed to support linux authentication? - I am also trying to do ldap authentication in a php page. I have installed the PHP5-ldap package, but my php page is failing to make the ldap connection. I don't see any ldap related error in the apache log, so I am not sure what exactly is happening. Is it possible that the ldap errors are going to a different log file? Are there additional php packages that must be installed to make it work? Thanks a lot for your help, Russell Jones -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Lin_tape compatibility with particular kernel version
On 12/2/2008 at 2:10 PM, Lee, Gary D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running suse sles9 t64 bit kernel version Linux version 2.6.5-7.244-s390x ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 What version of lin_tape will run here? Or, will IBMtape v 3.0.5 support ts1120 with and without encryption? According to the thread which starts at http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.73793 it would appear so (not sure about the encryption part). Pieter Harder recommended getting the package from ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Linux/ in the archive/SLES9 subdirectory. But, IBMtape is supposed to be deprecated in favor of IBMtapeutil and lin_tape, http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.73798 The latest pre-compiled versions I see there for your kernel are lin_tape-1.10.0-2.6.5-7.244.s390x.rpm.bin, lin_tape-1.10.0-2.6.5-7.244.x86_64.rpm.bin, and IBMtapeutil.1.4.4.s390.tar.bin, IBMtapeutil.1.4.4.s390x.tar.bin Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Soaking wet. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Is this rep referring to a specific Oracle document or just flapping his gums? If the latter, perhaps he should be referred to Barry Perkins (who spoke [via phone] at the last SHARE). O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Or someone who wants you to continue paying lots of license charges. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Are the rep's initials HOO? as in H2O... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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um maybe the misinformed dude was referring to some piece of Oracle, like a client, that doesn't run on linux for System z anyway? His response falls into the frightfully scary department and sounds like he needs a visit to the woodshed David From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Schneck.Glenn Sent: Tue 12/2/2008 4:10 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Or someone who wants you to continue paying lots of license charges. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jones, Russell wrote: I have a couple questions about connecting to ldap from Suse linux. Before we get really into this, I should refer you to your local LDAP administrator, if you are not that person. If you are your own local LDAP admin, well, read on, but also apply heavy does of google fu. LDAP is a, uh, non-intuitive world. - Does anyone have experience using the MVS ldap server for Z/linux authentication. I don't use the MVS LDAP server, but another product. However, from a linux client perspective, LDAP is LDAP, for the most bits. There's a few assumptions in this which you'll need to know, btw *) do you allow anonymous binds *) do you force, allow, or not support SSL and/or TLS *) What bind method do you use Simple, SASL-??? Here's a few sets of tests I use, in roughly ascending order of functionality. This is assuming non-anonymous binds, simple binding, and no SSL/TLS 1) Can you do a manual ldapsearch at all, with fully specified parameters? E.g. something like this: ldapsearch -x -h your_ldap_host -D bindname -W -b ldap_base \ -s one objectclass=* If this fails, examine your assumptions. This should always be able to made work, if your assumptions are correct. 2) Do an ldapsearch leaving default some of the search parameters, to insure you have them configured correctly on your client host. E.g: ldapsearch -x -s one objectclass=* If this fails, use a process of elimination to find and correct the saved search parameters (LDAP server hostnames, ldap base, ldap bind names and passwords, etc). Most of this data is in the file /etc/ldap.conf and the directory /etc/openldap 3) Does the client OS see account / group information? getent passwd ; getent group ; id some_ldap_account There's lots of possible failures here. First check /etc/nsswitch.conf, and insure it's setup for either files ldap or compat for everything you care to get from the LDAP server. If it's compat there also needs to be a compat_passwd ... and other compat_* entries. Next, look for SSL / TLS connection failures, if you're using them. In particular, check the client's certdb is correct. If your server supports non-SSL connections, try testing this non-SSL to positively confirm whether this is an SSL problem or not. Next, check for extra search filters in /etc/ldap.conf specified as part of an nss_base_*' statements. Try commenting these out as a test. Also look in /etc/ldap.conf for attribute mapping statements -- make sure these match what the server actually provides, as seen in the output of a manual ldapsearch. Finally, check the server's schema, and insure it's compatible. The server needs some form of RFC2307 schema, and of course, each account and group used with linux LDAP needs the proper objectclasses and attributes. (E.g. objectclass: posixaccount, uidNumber: 123456, loginShell: /bin/ksh, etc etc) 4) Can you su - to an LDAP served account Check pam settings, existence of shell, home directory 5) Last, can you ssh / telnet to an LDAP served account If not, check your pam settings and sshd config. - I am also trying to do ldap authentication in a php page. I have installed the PHP5-ldap package, but my php page is failing to make the ldap connection. I don't see any ldap related error in the apache log, so I am not sure what exactly is happening. Is it possible that the ldap errors are going to a different log file? Are there additional php packages that must be installed to make it work? Recall here that you can have apache (via mod_auth_ldap) do session authentication, or you can do manual authentication in php via trying to do an ldap_bind in your php code. Which are you trying to do, here? - -- Pat -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk1pjAACgkQNObCqA8uBsx2zQCcCTFjg2P5bj9uPZ9076atLIIh AFsAn1Xr1J+tRMmIpEYiht5N3CqFNWV/ =+ubc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS
On 12/2/2008 at 4:03 PM, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Securing Linux for zSeries with a Central z/OS LDAP Server Just for the sake of completeness, the URL for the abstract is http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp0221.html The document itself is at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp0221.pdf Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Sounds a little like our Red Hat rep who told our Linux guys yesterday that IBM is likely to get rid of z/VM in favor of KVM, because why would IBM want to support multiple virtualization platforms. This kind of misinformation from reps at these vendors sure make it hard to sell mainframe Linux as a solution internally. Simple statements like these to the wrong people are nearly irreversibly damaging. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Yep, been battling that for almost a decade. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart Thomas J Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:20 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Sounds a little like our Red Hat rep who told our Linux guys yesterday that IBM is likely to get rid of z/VM in favor of KVM, because why would IBM want to support multiple virtualization platforms. This kind of misinformation from reps at these vendors sure make it hard to sell mainframe Linux as a solution internally. Simple statements like these to the wrong people are nearly irreversibly damaging. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
I just checked with some people at Oracle, and that statement applies to x86 and x86-64 hardware platforms *only*. This has nothing to do with zlinux. Oracle fully supports and continues to support zlinux. Kris (wearing my Oracle hat) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Never underestimate a Mage with: - the Intelligence to cast Magic Missile, - the Constitution to survive the first hit, and - the Dexterity to run fast enough to avoid being hit a second time. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Or maybe he's secretly working for Novell ;) Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart Thomas J Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:20 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Sounds a little like our Red Hat rep who told our Linux guys yesterday that IBM is likely to get rid of z/VM in favor of KVM, because why would IBM want to support multiple virtualization platforms. This kind of misinformation from reps at these vendors sure make it hard to sell mainframe Linux as a solution internally. Simple statements like these to the wrong people are nearly irreversibly damaging. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: That sounds like a seriously misinformed person. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
Our experience has been nothing but positive with regard to Oracle on zLinux (pardon the term), in terms of price/performance. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Van Hees Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:31 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization I just checked with some people at Oracle, and that statement applies to x86 and x86-64 hardware platforms *only*. This has nothing to do with zlinux. Oracle fully supports and continues to support zlinux. Kris (wearing my Oracle hat) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) and that Oracle Support can't assist the customer until the virtualization software is removed and the problem is duplicated. This strikes me as odd, considering that Oracle is encouraging their z/OS customers to move to mainframe Linux. Does Oracle expect them to run Linux in an LPAR, or run unsupported under z/VM? Or is this guy all wet? Dennis O'Brien We have awakened a sleeping giant, and we have instilled in him a terrible resolve. -- Admiral Yamamoto, following the attack on Pearl Harbor -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Never underestimate a Mage with: - the Intelligence to cast Magic Missile, - the Constitution to survive the first hit, and - the Dexterity to run fast enough to avoid being hit a second time. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS
Thanks to everyone for the responses. I will go through your tests and the suggested documentation and see where that gets me. As for the second part, I am attempting to bind to ldap using php. The same php page works on my Slackware system, but something is not configured correctly on the Suse system. Russell Jones ANPAC System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Spinler Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:19 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE 10 LDAP QUESTIONS -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jones, Russell wrote: I have a couple questions about connecting to ldap from Suse linux. Before we get really into this, I should refer you to your local LDAP administrator, if you are not that person. If you are your own local LDAP admin, well, read on, but also apply heavy does of google fu. LDAP is a, uh, non-intuitive world. - Does anyone have experience using the MVS ldap server for Z/linux authentication. I don't use the MVS LDAP server, but another product. However, from a linux client perspective, LDAP is LDAP, for the most bits. There's a few assumptions in this which you'll need to know, btw *) do you allow anonymous binds *) do you force, allow, or not support SSL and/or TLS *) What bind method do you use Simple, SASL-??? Here's a few sets of tests I use, in roughly ascending order of functionality. This is assuming non-anonymous binds, simple binding, and no SSL/TLS 1) Can you do a manual ldapsearch at all, with fully specified parameters? E.g. something like this: ldapsearch -x -h your_ldap_host -D bindname -W -b ldap_base \ -s one objectclass=* If this fails, examine your assumptions. This should always be able to made work, if your assumptions are correct. 2) Do an ldapsearch leaving default some of the search parameters, to insure you have them configured correctly on your client host. E.g: ldapsearch -x -s one objectclass=* If this fails, use a process of elimination to find and correct the saved search parameters (LDAP server hostnames, ldap base, ldap bind names and passwords, etc). Most of this data is in the file /etc/ldap.conf and the directory /etc/openldap 3) Does the client OS see account / group information? getent passwd ; getent group ; id some_ldap_account There's lots of possible failures here. First check /etc/nsswitch.conf, and insure it's setup for either files ldap or compat for everything you care to get from the LDAP server. If it's compat there also needs to be a compat_passwd ... and other compat_* entries. Next, look for SSL / TLS connection failures, if you're using them. In particular, check the client's certdb is correct. If your server supports non-SSL connections, try testing this non-SSL to positively confirm whether this is an SSL problem or not. Next, check for extra search filters in /etc/ldap.conf specified as part of an nss_base_*' statements. Try commenting these out as a test. Also look in /etc/ldap.conf for attribute mapping statements -- make sure these match what the server actually provides, as seen in the output of a manual ldapsearch. Finally, check the server's schema, and insure it's compatible. The server needs some form of RFC2307 schema, and of course, each account and group used with linux LDAP needs the proper objectclasses and attributes. (E.g. objectclass: posixaccount, uidNumber: 123456, loginShell: /bin/ksh, etc etc) 4) Can you su - to an LDAP served account Check pam settings, existence of shell, home directory 5) Last, can you ssh / telnet to an LDAP served account If not, check your pam settings and sshd config. - I am also trying to do ldap authentication in a php page. I have installed the PHP5-ldap package, but my php page is failing to make the ldap connection. I don't see any ldap related error in the apache log, so I am not sure what exactly is happening. Is it possible that the ldap errors are going to a different log file? Are there additional php packages that must be installed to make it work? Recall here that you can have apache (via mod_auth_ldap) do session authentication, or you can do manual authentication in php via trying to do an ldap_bind in your php code. Which are you trying to do, here? - -- Pat -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk1pjAACgkQNObCqA8uBsx2zQCcCTFjg2P5bj9uPZ9076atLIIh AFsAn1Xr1J+tRMmIpEYiht5N3CqFNWV/ =+ubc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
Call me. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harder, Pieter Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:41 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization Is there anywhere public you can point to for a business case? There seem to be loads of statements like yours, but it is real hard to find convincing evidence to show to management persons. Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Pat Carroll Verzonden: dinsdag 2 december 2008 22:35 Aan: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Onderwerp: Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization Our experience has been nothing but positive with regard to Oracle on zLinux (pardon the term), in terms of price/performance. Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 Brabant Water N.V. Postbus 1068 5200 BC 's-Hertogenbosch http://www.brabantwater.nl Handelsregister: 16005077 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
On 12/2/2008 at 4:40 PM, Harder, Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anywhere public you can point to for a business case? There seem to be loads of statements like yours, but it is real hard to find convincing evidence to show to management persons. The Province of Quebec gave presentations at several IBM System z Expo and SHARE conferences on their experiences in this area, and how they were going to tackle WebSphere next, and for the same reasons. I seem to recall they recouped the entire cost of their z9 within a year (or two at the most). How to Rise Above the Challenges of Deploying z/VM and Linux on the Mainframe and Thrive http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE108/S9230.pdf Building a strong z/VM and Linux on the mainframe architecture http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE108/S9231.pdf Then there's the case study I did on a customer that went with discrete hardware systems running Oracle and wasted millions of dollars: Choose the Right Architecture and Save Millions - A Customer Case Study http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE110/S9205mp.pdf Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
Please feel free to contact me off list in regards to the Province of Quebec. The license savings was, er, substantial. David Kreuter From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Mark Post Sent: Tue 12/2/2008 5:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization On 12/2/2008 at 4:40 PM, Harder, Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anywhere public you can point to for a business case? There seem to be loads of statements like yours, but it is real hard to find convincing evidence to show to management persons. The Province of Quebec gave presentations at several IBM System z Expo and SHARE conferences on their experiences in this area, and how they were going to tackle WebSphere next, and for the same reasons. I seem to recall they recouped the entire cost of their z9 within a year (or two at the most). How to Rise Above the Challenges of Deploying z/VM and Linux on the Mainframe and Thrive http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE108/S9230.pdf Building a strong z/VM and Linux on the mainframe architecture http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE108/S9231.pdf Then there's the case study I did on a customer that went with discrete hardware systems running Oracle and wasted millions of dollars: Choose the Right Architecture and Save Millions - A Customer Case Study http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE110/S9205mp.pdf Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:59:55 -0800 O'Brien, Dennis L Dennis.L.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9049038intsrc=news_ts_head Oracle require you run their own virtualisation software. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: your mail
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:06:25PM +, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:59:55 -0800 O'Brien, Dennis L Dennis.L.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been informed by an Oracle rep that Oracle does not certify its programs on any Virtualization Software (to include VMware and zVM.) http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9049038intsrc=news_ts_head Oracle require you run their own virtualisation software. Again, that applies to x86 and x86-64 hardware platforms only. It has nothing to do with zlinux. Kris -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Pat Carroll wrote: Call me. You don't *look* like Debbie Harry. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
HAR Patrick Carroll | Enterprise Architect L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 207.552.2426 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Pat Carroll wrote: Call me. You don't *look* like Debbie Harry. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle, zlinux, and virtualization
Adam Thornton wrote: On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Pat Carroll wrote: Call me. You don't *look* like Debbie Harry. Adam Ha! -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Hillgang Meeting
How many people do you expect? Neale Ferguson wrote: The agenda for the Dec 4 meeting of ³Hillgang² is available at http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/hill1204.pdf -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 begin:vcard fn:Barton Robinson n:Robinson;Barton adr;dom:;;PO 390640;Mountain View;CA;94039-0640 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Sr. Architect tel;work:650-964-8867 note:If you can't measure it, I'm just not interested x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://velocitysoftware.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Hillgang Meeting
We have 26 registered at the moment. Usually a couple of late comers and a few drop-outs. On 12/2/08 8:11 PM, Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many people do you expect? Neale Ferguson wrote: The agenda for the Dec 4 meeting of ³Hillgang² is available at http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/hill1204.pdf -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Hillgang Meeting
Thx. There seems to be a mixup with breakfast, i hope aaron takes care of it tomorrow while i'm on the plane... Neale Ferguson wrote: We have 26 registered at the moment. Usually a couple of late comers and a few drop-outs. On 12/2/08 8:11 PM, Barton Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many people do you expect? Neale Ferguson wrote: The agenda for the Dec 4 meeting of ³Hillgang² is available at http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/hill1204.pdf -- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 begin:vcard fn:Barton Robinson n:Robinson;Barton adr;dom:;;PO 390640;Mountain View;CA;94039-0640 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Sr. Architect tel;work:650-964-8867 note:If you can't measure it, I'm just not interested x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://velocitysoftware.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: RHEL 2.4 on Z9
I could be wrong, but I think the first 390-enabled RHEL was RHEL 3.x. 2.4 is really, really ancient. David: I think you are right here. My records show the first RHEL release to support s390 and s390x was RHEL 3 Update 3 which was kernel level 2.4.21. This may be the confusion with 2.4. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
