Re: Does Novell have an ombudsman for their bugzilla?

[J. L. Turriff]

On Monday 13 April 2009 09:33:53 Mark Post wrote:
> >>> On 4/11/2009 at  7:24 PM, "J. L. Turriff"  wrote:
> >
> > Does Novell have an ombudsman for their bugzilla?
>
> Leslie,
>
> I'm not sure.  But, why do you ask?
>
>
> Mark
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Mark, this may be considered off-topic, since it isn't directly related to
Linux-390, but I'm hoping that I'll get a pertinent answer from your list
(the mainframe-related lists seem to be better at that. :-) ), and other
subscribers might like to know too.

I found a bug in YaST2 and Sax2 that prevents me from using the USB--Serial
adapter I attached to my desktop machine.  Both Sax2 and YaST2 appear to have
hard-coded lists of serial devices that do not reflect the actual devices
attached to the system.  If an available device not on those lists is needed
there is no way to configure them (in my case, for attachment of a modem in
YaST2, or a Wacom serial tablet in Sax2).

I opened bugfix requests for these two tools (I think that only Novell can fix
them?) to request a change to allow my devices to appear on the lists.  The
one for Sax2 (494216) was rejected immediately with the comment, "This is
really a very special case, which we IMHO don't need to support. You can be
happy, that your USB->Serial adapter is supported at all. It's not that hard
to replace ttyS0 with ttyUSB0 in xorg.conf ...
WONTFIX"

The one for the same issue with YaST2 (494217) has been forwarded on for
review, so I don't know yet if it will be rejected; if they do accept it,
Sax2 and YaST2 will then behave differently, which would be unfortunate.  If
both are rejected, I will be unable to use all of my serial ports.

Yes, this is a "special case," and there are workarounds (kludging
configuration files behind YaST2's or Sax's back), but I would like to press
for a proper fix, and no-one seems to be listening now, since the Sax2
request is closed WONTFIX.

Thus the question.

Thanks,

Leslie

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Kernel Conference Australia, July

[Shane Ginnane]

May be of interest to some folks here.
Sounds like a great opportunity for a presentation to get word out re the
system z port of OpenSolaris ...
C'mon David, you must want a trip to Brisbane  :0)

Info here - http://wikis.sun.com/display/KCA/Home

Looks heavily  Sun oriented at present, but hopefully will be broader.

Shane ...

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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at  2:31 PM, Harold Grovesteen  wrote: 
-snip-
> I would not deny that this might be a problem, but with an instruction
> count of 2, it did not get very far, unless of course it is the very
> first instruction. This question came up on the Hercules list, and I
> recommended this list. Can anyone validate for the poster, the correct
> .ins file content?

I just fired up my 2 year old version of Hercules with this suse.ins file:
# cat suse.ins
* SuSE Linux for zSeries Installation/Rescue System
tapeipl.ikr 0x
initrd.off 0x0001040c
initrd.siz 0x00010414
initrd 0x0080
parmfile 0x00010480

Within a couple of seconds I got these messages on the console:
Linux version 2.6.27.19 (ge...@buildhost) (gcc version 4.3.2 gcc-4_3-branch 
revision 141291! (SUSE Linux) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Feb 28 07:36:00 UTC 2009
setup.6bac7a: Linux is running natively in 64-bit mode
Zone PFN ranges:
  DMA  0x -> 0x0008
  Normal   0x0008 -> 0x0008
Movable zone start PFN for each node
early_node_map1! active PFN ranges


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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Waite, Dick]

Grand Evening,
We had issues with SLE11 on the inital setup. It was fixed by a temp fix from 
IBM due to a TCP stack issue. I have been looking for the APAR but I'm way way 
from office and an internet so sorry but Novell do know of the issue so maybe 
ask for the SLE11 TCP fix from IBM.

Regards,
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Subject: Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

>>> On 4/13/2009 at  3:08 PM, Craig Collins  wrote: 
> We downloaded the media again and re-deployed it on the ftp server, but we
> still received the media failure error.  Any ideas?

Here's a cool trick I learned during my testing of SLES11...

Specify both UseVNC _and_ UseSSH (with passwords for both) in your parm file.  
Then after the install starts via VNC, SSH in to the system being built, and cd 
to /var/log/YaST2/.  When you get your error, take a look at the contents of 
y2log.  Somewhere near the bottom may be a clue as to what is going wrong.


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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at  3:08 PM, Craig Collins  wrote: 
> We downloaded the media again and re-deployed it on the ftp server, but we
> still received the media failure error.  Any ideas?

Here's a cool trick I learned during my testing of SLES11...

Specify both UseVNC _and_ UseSSH (with passwords for both) in your parm file.  
Then after the install starts via VNC, SSH in to the system being built, and cd 
to /var/log/YaST2/.  When you get your error, take a look at the contents of 
y2log.  Somewhere near the bottom may be a clue as to what is going wrong.


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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Daniel Jarboe]

>
> > I would not deny that this might be a problem, but with an instruction
> > count of 2, it did not get very far, unless of course it is the very
> > first instruction. This question came up on the Hercules list, and I
> > recommended this list. Can anyone validate for the poster, the correct
> > .ins file content?
>
>
I ran into a bug earlier when using the 3.0.5 .deb package that made dasd
activation fail.  I had already gotten past that one by downloading the
hercules 3.0.6 release and building that.  I figured it wouldn't hurt to
pull the latest from SVN for grins when I get home and give it a whirl *just
in case*.

The initrd looks perfectly valid: a gzipped cpio archive.

I'm not sure how to validate the different .ikr files at this point.
According to "file" the headers indicate both SLES10SP2 and SLES11 are
"Applesoft BASIC program data."  I have some reading to do here.  The
instruction count of two gave me hope that it was something silly with a
quick solution, but I will dig more.

I IPLed the debian Lenny installer from the reader so it's not really an
apples to apples, but SLES 10 SP2 was an ipl suse.ins which is the same
method I'm trying to use with SLES 11.

Thanks,
~ Daniel

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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Craig Collins]

We downloaded the media again and re-deployed it on the ftp server, but we
still received the media failure error.  Any ideas?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Craig Collins  wrote:

> Actually, specifying the userid & password as part of the ftp specification
> got us past that problem.  We're using the base ftp service that comes with
> redhat 5 that we also used to serve up sles10 without specifying the userid
> and password on the ftp parm itself.  So it appears to be reacting
> differently between sles10 & sles11.
> Now, we are receiving an error after starting the install through yast
> using vnc that the sles11/DVD1/media.1/media failed, unrecognizable error,
> transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to be read.  I'm wondering if we
> should download the media again from Novell.  Maybe our copy is
> incomplete/corrupt.
>
> Craig Collins
> State of WIsconsin
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Post  wrote:
>
>> >>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace  wrote:
>> > They have changed the format of the install paramters.
>>
>> I don't believe so.
>>
>> > Use
>> > Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root
>>
>> That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
>> non-anonymous access) has worked for me.
>>
>>
>> Mark Post
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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Harold Grovesteen]

Mark Post wrote:


On 4/13/2009 at  8:09 AM, Daniel Jarboe  wrote:



I'm having trouble IPLing the starter SLES11 system using Hercules 3.06. The
IPL method should be equivalent to a LPAR load from CD-ROM. The
deployment.pdf included within SuSE's docu directory didn't reveal any
obvious differences why what works for SLES10 SP2 installation under
Hercules doesn't work for me now with SLES11 media.




I suspect you've run into the same problem that (at least) Rick Troth and I 
did.  Hercules implemented one of the instructions incorrectly that are used by 
newer kernels.  If you take a copy of the current CVS and compile it from 
source, everything should be fine.


I would not deny that this might be a problem, but with an instruction
count of 2, it did not get very far, unless of course it is the very
first instruction. This question came up on the Hercules list, and I
recommended this list. Can anyone validate for the poster, the correct
.ins file content?




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Re: Active Directory Use from MediaWiki

[David Boyes]

On 4/13/09 11:34 AM, "Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT) [C]" 
wrote:

> We are in the process of setting up a wiki service for our organization using
> MediaWiki.  It is important that we be able to authenticate via Active
> Directory rather than users have to set up separate ids on the wikis.  There
> is a product, Plexcel, which does this integration for x86 Linux, but it is
> not available for zLinux.  The company has no plans to port to zLinux unless
> there is a zLinux simulator that can run on x86_64 or i386.  My questions are:
> *   (1) does anyone know of such a simulator?

Hercules.


> *   (2) failing that, does anyone know of a comparable product to Plexcel
> that runs on zLinux;

Samba. The winbind code works fine; you then set up mediawiki to use local
authentication. You could also use Umich's CoSign, albeit with a lot more
effort.

> *   (3) failing that, is there a product which provides similar
> integration with an LDAP server?

See suggestion #2. 

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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mark Pace]

It didn't work for me.  I found the new format in SUSE Linux Enterprise
Server:  Deployment Guide

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace  wrote:
> > They have changed the format of the install paramters.
>
> I don't believe so.
>
> > Use
> > Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root
>
> That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
> non-anonymous access) has worked for me.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mauro Souza]

Looks like your ftp server is complaining about relative path... instead of
using ../../nfs/sles11/DVD1, try using absolute path (e.g
/somewhere/nfs/sles11/DVD1). From another box, try wget
ftp://ip/somewhere/nfs/sles11/DVD1/content to see if the file is
acessible...


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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace  wrote:
> > They have changed the format of the install paramters.
>
> I don't believe so.
>
> > Use
> > Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root
>
> That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
> non-anonymous access) has worked for me.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Craig Collins]

Actually, specifying the userid & password as part of the ftp specification
got us past that problem.  We're using the base ftp service that comes with
redhat 5 that we also used to serve up sles10 without specifying the userid
and password on the ftp parm itself.  So it appears to be reacting
differently between sles10 & sles11.
Now, we are receiving an error after starting the install through yast using
vnc that the sles11/DVD1/media.1/media failed, unrecognizable error,
transfer closed with 62 bytes remaining to be read.  I'm wondering if we
should download the media again from Novell.  Maybe our copy is
incomplete/corrupt.

Craig Collins
State of WIsconsin


On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace  wrote:
> > They have changed the format of the install paramters.
>
> I don't believe so.
>
> > Use
> > Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root
>
> That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for
> non-anonymous access) has worked for me.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:30 AM, Mark Pace  wrote: 
> They have changed the format of the install paramters.

I don't believe so.

> Use
> Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root

That format, or the individual specification of userid and password (for 
non-anonymous access) has worked for me.


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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:20 AM, Craig Collins  wrote: 
-snip-
> When I look at the directory yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1 I do find a
> file named content but not a directory, which it appears the install is
> searching for.  Has anyone run across this or do you have any suggestions?

What are you using for your FTP server?


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Re: Active Directory Use from MediaWiki

[Adam Thornton]

On Apr 13, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote:


We are in the process of setting up a wiki service for our
organization using MediaWiki.  It is important that we be able to
authenticate via Active Directory rather than users have to set up
separate ids on the wikis.  There is a product, Plexcel, which does
this integration for x86 Linux, but it is not available for zLinux.
The company has no plans to port to zLinux unless there is a zLinux
simulator that can run on x86_64 or i386.  My questions are:
*   (1) does anyone know of such a simulator?
*   (2) failing that, does anyone know of a comparable product
to Plexcel that runs on zLinux;
*   (3) failing that, is there a product which provides similar
integration with an LDAP server?
Thanks.


1) Yes, but you don't want to go there
2-3) As long as PHP is built with LDAP support, I think you should be
able to do LDAP auth over TLS/SSL to your AD controller and have it
work fine.

Take a look at: 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/AD_Configuration_Examples

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Re: SLES 11 Install Issue

[Mark Pace]

They have changed the format of the install paramters.

Use
Install=ftp://username:passw...@ipaddress/root

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Craig Collins  wrote:

> Using these parameters:ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc
> TERM=dumb""
> Hostname= Gateway=yy.yy.199.1
> HostIP=yy.yy.199.21 Nameserver=none
> InstNetDev=osa Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=yy.yy.199.255
> OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Layer2=0
> ReadChannel=0.0.a100 WriteChannel=0.0.a101 DataChannel=0.0.a102
> Portname=DEFNIC Install=ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1
> linuxrcstderr=/dev/console
> UseSSH=1SSHPassword=password
>  username=root password=pass123
>
> We are getting the error:
> eth0 activated
> hostip: yy.yy.199.21
> gateway: yy.yy.199.1
> loading ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/content -> /content
> error 9: Server denied you to change to the given directory
>
> When I look at the directory yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1 I do find a
> file named content but not a directory, which it appears the install is
> searching for.  Has anyone run across this or do you have any suggestions?
>
> Craig Collins
> State of Wisconsin
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Re: Active Directory Use from MediaWiki

[Marcy Cortes]

>*   (2) failing that, does anyone know of a comparable product to
Plexcel that runs on zLinux;

Quest Authentication Services (Formerly Vintela Authentication Services
= VAS)



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Re: Active Directory Use from MediaWiki

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at 11:34 AM, "Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT) [C]"
 wrote: 
> We are in the process of setting up a wiki service for our organization using 
> MediaWiki.  It is important that we be able to authenticate via Active 
> Directory rather than users have to set up separate ids on the wikis.  There 
> is a product, Plexcel, which does this integration for x86 Linux, but it is 
> not available for zLinux.  The company has no plans to port to zLinux unless 
> there is a zLinux simulator that can run on x86_64 or i386.  My questions 
> are:
> *   (1) does anyone know of such a simulator?

Hercules.  Instead of that, however, I would strongly recommend they talk to 
IBM about using their program that gives ISVs access to Linux on System z.  
They'll get much better performance and so be much more productive.


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Active Directory Use from MediaWiki

[Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT) [C]]

We are in the process of setting up a wiki service for our organization using 
MediaWiki.  It is important that we be able to authenticate via Active 
Directory rather than users have to set up separate ids on the wikis.  There is 
a product, Plexcel, which does this integration for x86 Linux, but it is not 
available for zLinux.  The company has no plans to port to zLinux unless there 
is a zLinux simulator that can run on x86_64 or i386.  My questions are:
*   (1) does anyone know of such a simulator?
*   (2) failing that, does anyone know of a comparable product to Plexcel 
that runs on zLinux;
*   (3) failing that, is there a product which provides similar integration 
with an LDAP server?
 Thanks.

**
Robert P. Klein, Contractor
Sr. Systems Engineer, r...@nih.gov
Nat. Inst. of Health
12 South Drive MSC 5607
Bethesda, MD 20892-5607
ph: 301-496-7400, fax: 301-496-6905

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SLES 11 Install Issue

[Craig Collins]

Using these parameters:ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc
TERM=dumb""
Hostname= Gateway=yy.yy.199.1
HostIP=yy.yy.199.21 Nameserver=none
InstNetDev=osa Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=yy.yy.199.255
OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Layer2=0
ReadChannel=0.0.a100 WriteChannel=0.0.a101 DataChannel=0.0.a102
Portname=DEFNIC Install=ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1
linuxrcstderr=/dev/console
UseSSH=1 SSHPassword=password username=root password=pass123

We are getting the error:
eth0 activated
hostip: yy.yy.199.21
gateway: yy.yy.199.1
loading ftp://yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1/content -> /content
error 9: Server denied you to change to the given directory

When I look at the directory yy.yy.199.4/../../nfs/sles11/DVD1 I do find a
file named content but not a directory, which it appears the install is
searching for.  Has anyone run across this or do you have any suggestions?

Craig Collins
State of Wisconsin

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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at  9:20 AM, Andrew Avramenko  wrote: 
> Daniel,
> 
> SLES 11 doesn't support old hardware, just only z9 and z10. I'm not
> familiar with Hercules, but may be that is the problem. I have
> experience with installation SLES 11 on z9 under VM 5.3 and everything
> was fine.

SLES11 GA will _run_ on all zSeries and System z hardware.  It will only be 
_supported_ on z9 and later.  Beginning with SP1 or SP2, it will only run on z9 
or later.


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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/13/2009 at  8:09 AM, Daniel Jarboe  wrote: 
> I'm having trouble IPLing the starter SLES11 system using Hercules 3.06. The
> IPL method should be equivalent to a LPAR load from CD-ROM. The
> deployment.pdf included within SuSE's docu directory didn't reveal any
> obvious differences why what works for SLES10 SP2 installation under
> Hercules doesn't work for me now with SLES11 media.

I suspect you've run into the same problem that (at least) Rick Troth and I 
did.  Hercules implemented one of the instructions incorrectly that are used by 
newer kernels.  If you take a copy of the current CVS and compile it from 
source, everything should be fine.


Mark Post

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Re: Does Novell have an ombudsman for their bugzilla?

[Mark Post]

>>> On 4/11/2009 at  7:24 PM, "J. L. Turriff"  wrote: 
> Does Novell have an ombudsman for their bugzilla?

Leslie,

I'm not sure.  But, why do you ask?


Mark

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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Daniel Vila]

Just like information , I'm running SLES11 over an older IBM 2064 hardware
(a generation before z9 & z10) , proc , dasd and osa cards were
recognized without problems ..

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Re: IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Andrew Avramenko]

Daniel,

SLES 11 doesn't support old hardware, just only z9 and z10. I'm not
familiar with Hercules, but may be that is the problem. I have
experience with installation SLES 11 on z9 under VM 5.3 and everything
was fine.



2009/4/13 Daniel Jarboe :
> I'm having trouble IPLing the starter SLES11 system using Hercules 3.06. The
> IPL method should be equivalent to a LPAR load from CD-ROM. The
> deployment.pdf included within SuSE's docu directory didn't reveal any
> obvious differences why what works for SLES10 SP2 installation under
> Hercules doesn't work for me now with SLES11 media.
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Andrew

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IPL of SLES11 .ins file in Hercules yields immediate disabled wait state

[Daniel Jarboe]

I'm having trouble IPLing the starter SLES11 system using Hercules 3.06. The
IPL method should be equivalent to a LPAR load from CD-ROM. The
deployment.pdf included within SuSE's docu directory didn't reveal any
obvious differences why what works for SLES10 SP2 installation under
Hercules doesn't work for me now with SLES11 media.

ipl /path/to/suse.ins now results in:

HHCCP007I CPU architecture mode set to ESA/390
HHCCP011I CPU: Disabled wait state
PSW=000A 
Command ==>
CPU PSW=000A 24M.W. instcount=2


The new SLES11 suse.ins is:
* SuSE Linux for zSeries Installation/Rescue System
vmrdr.ikr 0x
initrd.off 0x0001040c
initrd.siz 0x00010414
initrd 0x0080
parmfile 0x00010480

All files are present. For reference, the SLES10SP2 suse.ins was fairly
similar and works without problems for SLES10:
* SuSE Linux for zSeries Installation/Rescue System
vmrdr.ikr 0x
initrd.siz 0x00010414
initrd 0x0080
parmfile 0x00010480

There's no z/VM in the mix.  I also replaced vmrdr.ikr with cd.ikr in the
.ins file, but the result was the same.  Has anyone already been through a
SLES11 LPAR IPL from CD, or can get me started in the right direction on
this?

Thanks,
~ Daniel

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