Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Phil Knirsch

On 06/19/2009 02:24 AM, Bernie Saward wrote:

Two questions

Is this the Zedora that I have heard about ???



Nope. This is the real deal, meaning we're currently getting s390x
ready as an official secondary arch for Fedora again. It took quite a
bit of time and lots of politics/religion. Right now only a few minor
things missing (like a proper spot for our secondary arch koji hub)
until we're set in regard to infrastructure. Technically as you can see
we're pretty close to being done. There are only a few hundred build
failures remaining, some anaconda, NetworkManager and parted work needs
to be done but other than that it's working.


Has anyone done a Windows version of the Hercules image??   As in the .init
and .cfg files and a brief howto ??



At least i haven't looked into that yet. You might find more info how to
do that on in the hercules docu and/or forums i suspect, but it
shouldn't be too hard. As long as you don't need any external connection
for your guest it's easy as you can simply connect to the interface via
putty from your local machine.

How to set up NAT/Bridging/ProxyARP on Windows though i have no clue.

Regards, Phil

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Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
Yes, there definitely is a Windows version of Hercules.  It's linked
from the Hercules home page.

Works pretty much like the Linux version.

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On 06/19/2009 02:24 AM, Bernie Saward wrote:
 Two questions

 Is this the Zedora that I have heard about ???


Nope. This is the real deal, meaning we're currently getting s390x
ready as an official secondary arch for Fedora again. It took quite a
bit of time and lots of politics/religion. Right now only a few minor
things missing (like a proper spot for our secondary arch koji hub)
until we're set in regard to infrastructure. Technically as you can see
we're pretty close to being done. There are only a few hundred build
failures remaining, some anaconda, NetworkManager and parted work needs
to be done but other than that it's working.

 Has anyone done a Windows version of the Hercules image??   As in the
.init
 and .cfg files and a brief howto ??


At least i haven't looked into that yet. You might find more info how to
do that on in the hercules docu and/or forums i suspect, but it
shouldn't be too hard. As long as you don't need any external connection
for your guest it's easy as you can simply connect to the interface via
putty from your local machine.

How to set up NAT/Bridging/ProxyARP on Windows though i have no clue.

Regards, Phil

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Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Hall, Ken (GTS)ken_h...@ml.com wrote:

 Yes, there definitely is a Windows version of Hercules.  It's linked
 from the Hercules home page.

 Works pretty much like the Linux version.

Once it works, maybe...  If I may judge from the threads on the
hercules mailing list, the windows version is making it very hard to
get the network done. If you're serious about it, I'd look for a spare
PC with Linux and do it there.
-Rob

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Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
Networking on the Windows version isn't terrible, but it's a bit trickier than 
the Linux version.  If you use LCS, and have all the pieces in place, it works 
well enough.  The documentation isn't very good though.

I have it on my laptop here under Vista.


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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Hall, Ken (GTS)ken_h...@ml.com wrote:

 Yes, there definitely is a Windows version of Hercules.  It's linked
 from the Hercules home page.

 Works pretty much like the Linux version.

Once it works, maybe...  If I may judge from the threads on the
hercules mailing list, the windows version is making it very hard to
get the network done. If you're serious about it, I'd look for a spare
PC with Linux and do it there.
-Rob

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Re: LCS problem Installing SLES 11 in partition ( more)

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Post
 On 6/18/2009 at  9:52 PM, Mike At HammockTree m...@hammocktree.us wrote: 
-snip-
 17:02:04 Starting hardware detection...
 17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
 No such file
 17:02:04  or directory
 17:02:04
 17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
 No such file
 17:02:04  or directory

I just ran some tests, and these messages lead me to believe you're using the 
tapeipl.ikr kernel.  For whatever reason, that doesn't seem to work on 
Hercules, and you need to use the vmrdr.ikr kernel.  (Yeah, I know, it seems 
backwards.)  I typically just copy the suse.ins file, and modify it to point to 
the parmfile I want to use.


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Re: LCS problem Installing SLES 11 in partition ( more)

2009-06-19 Thread Mike At HammockTree

Yes, that's probably it, I am (have been) using the  tapeipl version...
Will try the vmrdr version and  report back.

Much thanks!!

Mike
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On 6/18/2009 at  9:52 PM, Mike At HammockTree m...@hammocktree.us
wrote:

-snip-

17:02:04 Starting hardware detection...
17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
No such file
17:02:04  or directory
17:02:04
17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
No such file
17:02:04  or directory


I just ran some tests, and these messages lead me to believe you're using
the tapeipl.ikr kernel.  For whatever reason, that doesn't seem to work on
Hercules, and you need to use the vmrdr.ikr kernel.  (Yeah, I know, it seems
backwards.)  I typically just copy the suse.ins file, and modify it to point
to the parmfile I want to use.


Mark Post

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Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
 
Got it working with WinPcap http://www.winpcap.org/  

Then immediately switched to Linux.

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Subject: Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Hall, Ken (GTS)ken_h...@ml.com wrote:

 Yes, there definitely is a Windows version of Hercules.  It's linked 
 from the Hercules home page.

 Works pretty much like the Linux version.

Once it works, maybe...  If I may judge from the threads on the hercules 
mailing list, the windows version is making it very hard to get the network 
done. If you're serious about it, I'd look for a spare PC with Linux and do it 
there.
-Rob

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Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

2009-06-19 Thread Hall, Ken (GTS)
I run the same OS images on both my laptop (Vista), and a dedicated machine at 
home that runs Fedora 9.  I move the disk image files back and forth as needed.

I change one line in the Hercules config file to switch between hosts.

Yes, Winpcap is required, and under Vista, you have to run Hercules as 
administrator, but otherwise, it's pretty straightforward.

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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Fedora 11 s390x preview

 
Got it working with WinPcap http://www.winpcap.org/  

Then immediately switched to Linux.

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der Heij
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:20 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Fedora 11 s390x preview

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Hall, Ken (GTS)ken_h...@ml.com wrote:

 Yes, there definitely is a Windows version of Hercules.  It's linked 
 from the Hercules home page.

 Works pretty much like the Linux version.

Once it works, maybe...  If I may judge from the threads on the hercules 
mailing list, the windows version is making it very hard to get the network 
done. If you're serious about it, I'd look for a spare PC with Linux and do it 
there.
-Rob

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Re: LCS problem Installing SLES 11 in partition ( more)

2009-06-19 Thread Mike At HammockTree

Yes, that got past the problem..   although there were a couple of issues
along the way.
For example, this kernel could  not seem to gunzip the initrd; it reported
bad magic numbers.  So I unzipped the initrd 'externally' and then just used
that as part of the IPL 'tape'.
I'm still battling later stages of the install process, mainly because of
the very slow/poor performance in this mode, but I  did  get past that early
roadblock.

Thanks Mark!!
Mike
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Subject: Re: LCS problem Installing SLES 11 in partition ( more)



On 6/18/2009 at  9:52 PM, Mike At HammockTree m...@hammocktree.us
wrote:

-snip-

17:02:04 Starting hardware detection...
17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
No such file
17:02:04  or directory
17:02:04
17:02:04 modprobe: FATAL: Could not load
/lib/modules/2.6.27.19/modules.dep:
No such file
17:02:04  or directory


I just ran some tests, and these messages lead me to believe you're using
the tapeipl.ikr kernel.  For whatever reason, that doesn't seem to work on
Hercules, and you need to use the vmrdr.ikr kernel.  (Yeah, I know, it seems
backwards.)  I typically just copy the suse.ins file, and modify it to point
to the parmfile I want to use.


Mark Post

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Anyone use nmap on s390x?

2009-06-19 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Has anyone run nmap on zLinux, know where I may find any rpm or binaries
for the s390x platform? Comments and insight?

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, Inc
Supporting the zSeries Platform Team

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Re: Anyone use nmap on s390x?

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Post
 On 6/19/2009 at  4:11 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: 
 Has anyone run nmap on zLinux, know where I may find any rpm or binaries
 for the s390x platform? Comments and insight?

It should come with the Linux distribution.  It's been on every one that I've 
seen.


Mark Post

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Re: Anyone use nmap on s390x?

2009-06-19 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Does that include the Red Hat distributions? I did an rpm -qa | grep
nmap and it came back empty. I will look on our satellite server to make
sure. Thanks for the quick response, I'll keep digging. 

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, Inc
Supporting the zSeries Platform Team

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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Anyone use nmap on s390x?

 On 6/19/2009 at  4:11 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: 
 Has anyone run nmap on zLinux, know where I may find any rpm or
binaries
 for the s390x platform? Comments and insight?

It should come with the Linux distribution.  It's been on every one that
I've seen.


Mark Post

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Re: Anyone use nmap on s390x?

2009-06-19 Thread Karl Huf
Running RHEL 5.3 here and nmap is installed.  Depending on who configured
your satellite it might be on a list of packages not made available by
default.


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Re: Anyone use nmap on s390x?

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Post
 On 6/19/2009 at  4:58 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: 
 Does that include the Red Hat distributions? I did an rpm -qa | grep
 nmap and it came back empty. I will look on our satellite server to make
 sure. Thanks for the quick response, I'll keep digging. 

Yes, including Red Hat.  For example, nmap-4.11-1.1.s390x.rpm

Just because it isn't installed on your system, doesn't mean it's not on the 
media.


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TCP performance

2009-06-19 Thread Ted Rodriguez-Bell
Gentle managers:

We have a user who's saying that his Connect:Direct (aka NDM)
transmissions are ~ 10--20% slower to a new zLinux server than to an
old AIX box.  The two are networkologically near each other.  We're
running a SLES 10 without much tuning.  What obvious things should I
be looking at?  (If this has been discussed, an approximate date or
header would help me go through the archives.)

Thank you,

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