Re: Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 12:57 PM, David Stuart  wrote: 
> Mark, 
> 
> How do you switch back from Network Manager? 

YaST -> Network Devices
The very first screen that comes up should be:
Network Setup Method
(x ) User Controlled with NetworkManager
( ) Traditional Method with ifup

Select the Traditional Method, then Next, and Finish.


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread David Stuart
Mark, 

I think so.  Now when I go in to Yast, Network Devices, Network Card, it shows 
Traditional Method with ifup as the management selection.  

If I look at the interfaces through there, they look correct.  However, I can 
only seem to get one interface active at any given time.  And it's not always, 
the same one.  Usually, but... 


 


Dave 



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>>> "Mark Post"  7/22/2009 9:57 AM >>>
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 12:44 PM, David Stuart  wrote: 
> Hi Mark, 
> 
> Yes, I did.  After the problem originally occurred.  Both OSA interfaces 
> were 'dead'.  

Have you gone back into YaST to switch from Network Manager to "traditional" 
mode?


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Re: Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread David Stuart
Mark, 

How do you switch back from Network Manager? 


Dave 



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>>> "Mark Post"  7/22/2009 9:54 AM >>>
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 10:41 AM, "Ceruti, Gerard G" 
>>> 
wrote: 
> Hi Scott
> 
> Found it as well, it looks like we have messed up config files , will look 
> further tomorrow.

I don't think your config files will be affected.  After all, the main thing 
Network Manager does is control which interface is active at any given point in 
time.  It's going to need those configuration files to be valid.

I would say that all that is needed is to use the ifconfig command, not ifup or 
ifdown, and "route add default gw" to get your network back up, and then SSH in 
to run YaST to switch back to the traditional "netcontrol" management.


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 12:44 PM, David Stuart  wrote: 
> Hi Mark, 
> 
> Yes, I did.  After the problem originally occurred.  Both OSA interfaces 
> were 'dead'.  

Have you gone back into YaST to switch from Network Manager to "traditional" 
mode?


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Re: Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 10:41 AM, "Ceruti, Gerard G" 
>>> 
wrote: 
> Hi Scott
> 
> Found it as well, it looks like we have messed up config files , will look 
> further tomorrow.

I don't think your config files will be affected.  After all, the main thing 
Network Manager does is control which interface is active at any given point in 
time.  It's going to need those configuration files to be valid.

I would say that all that is needed is to use the ifconfig command, not ifup or 
ifdown, and "route add default gw" to get your network back up, and then SSH in 
to run YaST to switch back to the traditional "netcontrol" management.


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread David Stuart
Hi Mark, 

Yes, I did.  After the problem originally occurred.  Both OSA interfaces were 
'dead'.  

And I tried again after I reviewed the interface files after going through 
Ursula's procedures.  After reboot, both were 'dead' again.  I had to go 
through Ursula's procedures again to get it back.  Right now, only one OSA 
interface is 'active', meaning that I can connect to it and it will answer a 
ping.  The other is non-responsive.  

I'm not sure where to go next.  When I look at the Network Device through Yast, 
everything looks correct.  But there is something somewhere.  I just haven't 
found it yet.  Not knowing where to look, or what to look for, doesn't help 
much, either. 


Dave 







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>>> "Mark Post"  7/22/2009 9:34 AM >>>
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 12:22 PM, David Stuart  wrote: 
> Ursula, 
> 
> The config files you pointed out exist for both OSA ports.  But I am not 
> sure what should be in them.  Besides the ip address and netmask.  I have 
> pasted the files for one of the OSA interfaces below.  Sorry for my 
> ignorance, but what am I looking for?  What should be in the config file? 

Both of those look fine.  By any chance did you try rebooting the system after 
your network dropped?


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 12:22 PM, David Stuart  wrote: 
> Ursula, 
> 
> The config files you pointed out exist for both OSA ports.  But I am not 
> sure what should be in them.  Besides the ip address and netmask.  I have 
> pasted the files for one of the OSA interfaces below.  Sorry for my 
> ignorance, but what am I looking for?  What should be in the config file? 

Both of those look fine.  By any chance did you try rebooting the system after 
your network dropped?


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 7/22/2009 at 11:48 AM, David Stuart  wrote: 
-snip-
> Not being all that familiar with linux, or having the time to work with it 
> and really learn it, I have a tendency to use Yast(2).  However, I apparently 
> shouldn't use Network Manager... 

Absolutely.  As it is currently designed, Network Manager will only allow one 
network interface to be active at a time.  The intent is that it will be used 
on things like laptops that have both Ethernet and wireless NICs, and cables 
get plugged and unplugged, etc.  It's not the default on server installs for 
obvious reasons, but is still made available because a number of people do 
install SLES on such devices.


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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread David Stuart
Ursula, 

The config files you pointed out exist for both OSA ports.  But I am not sure 
what should be in them.  Besides the ip address and netmask.  I have pasted the 
files for one of the OSA interfaces below.  Sorry for my ignorance, but what am 
I looking for?  What should be in the config file? 


Thanks, 
Dave 


ftpgalileo:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0510
STARTMODE='auto'
MODULE='qeth'
MODULE_OPTIONS=''
MODULE_UNLOAD='yes'
SCRIPTUP='hwup-ccw'
SCRIPTUP_ccw='hwup-ccw'
SCRIPTUP_ccwgroup='hwup-qeth'
SCRIPTDOWN='hwdown-ccw'
CCW_CHAN_IDS='0.0.0510 0.0.0511 0.0.0512'
CCW_CHAN_NUM='3'
CCW_CHAN_MODE=''
QETH_LAYER2_SUPPORT='0'
LCS_LANCMD_TIMEOUT=''
QETH_IPA_TAKEOVER='0'
QETH_OPTIONS=''


ftpgalileo:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0510
BOOTPROTO='static'
BROADCAST=''
ETHTOOL_OPTIONS=''
IPADDR='157.145.4.159'
LLADDR=''
MTU=''
NAME='IBM OSA Express Network card (0.0.0510)'
NETMASK='255.255.252.0'
NETWORK=''
REMOTE_IPADDR=''
STARTMODE='auto'
UNIQUE='Wo7R.FOqOuhDmSR4'
USERCONTROL='no'
_nm_name='qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.0510'
PREFIXLEN=''




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>>> "Ursula Braun"  7/22/2009 1:19 AM >>>
Dave,

snip. 

Now you should be able to connect from your PC. Then you should check
the SLES10 configuration files:
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.
/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.

Regards, Ursula

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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread David Stuart
Thanks Ursula, 

I managed to get one of the connections back up and working.  

The echo in step 2 failed with a message -bash: echo: write error: Invalid 
argument.  But I went ahead with step 3, echo 1 > ... /online, and then step 4, 
ifconfig eth0, and then added the default route as suggested by Rob, and now I 
can connect up again!

I still need to go look at the config files, but at least I can, now.  

Not being all that familiar with linux, or having the time to work with it and 
really learn it, I have a tendency to use Yast(2).  However, I apparently 
shouldn't use Network Manager... 

Thanks to all, for the suggestions. 


Dave 



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>>> "Ursula Braun"  7/22/2009 1:19 AM >>>
Dave,

you can try to setup a qeth device manually at your HMC console using
these steps:
1. Check with lscss, if the subchannel triplet (0.0., 0.0.xxxy,
0.0.xxxz) of your OSA-device is available.
2. Define the ccwgroup device with:
echo 0.0.,0.0.xxxy,0.0.xxxz > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/group
3. Bring the device online:
echo 1 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/devices/0.0./online
4. Activate the network interface:
ifconfig eth0  netmask 

Now you should be able to connect from your PC. Then you should check
the SLES10 configuration files:
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.
/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.

Regards, Ursula

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Re: Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi Scott

Found it as well, it looks like we have messed up config files , will look 
further tomorrow.

Regards
Gerard Ceruti
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Subject: Re: Network Manager

You might try:   /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop  --  I'm surprised it's
running on the z -- that's usually something I use on my laptop to manage
switching between ethernet/wireless/etc.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Ceruti, Gerard G <
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> Hi All
>
> We are in a similar situation as David, we were defining a new OSA with
> layer2 support for CCL and have clobbered the network definitions for
> normal access.
> When I try ifup or ifdown the interfaces I get a message " Network
> interface is managed from NetworkManager etc etc" as I am unable to
> invoke YAST, how do I turn off NetworkManager, or stop it controlling
> the interfaces.
>
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Re: Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread Scott Rohling
You might try:   /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop  --  I'm surprised it's
running on the z -- that's usually something I use on my laptop to manage
switching between ethernet/wireless/etc.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Ceruti, Gerard G <
gerard.cer...@standardbank.co.za> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> We are in a similar situation as David, we were defining a new OSA with
> layer2 support for CCL and have clobbered the network definitions for
> normal access.
> When I try ifup or ifdown the interfaces I get a message " Network
> interface is managed from NetworkManager etc etc" as I am unable to
> invoke YAST, how do I turn off NetworkManager, or stop it controlling
> the interfaces.
>
>
> Gerard Ceruti | Technical Specialist |Mainframe Systems  | Standard Bank
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> (Work) +27 11 700 1476 (Mobile) +27 83 252 5300 | Email:
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Network Manager

2009-07-22 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi All

We are in a similar situation as David, we were defining a new OSA with
layer2 support for CCL and have clobbered the network definitions for
normal access. 
When I try ifup or ifdown the interfaces I get a message " Network
interface is managed from NetworkManager etc etc" as I am unable to
invoke YAST, how do I turn off NetworkManager, or stop it controlling
the interfaces.


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Re: WMB and DB2 Connect on z/Linux

2009-07-22 Thread Beesley, Paul
Zach and Mark, thanks very much for your input. 
Plenty to think about


Regards
Paul 

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Sent: 22 July 2009 14:56
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Subject: Re: WMB and DB2 Connect on z/Linux

Here's what we do:

Currently, we have a DB2 Connect Server (Application Server Edition
v9.5) running on one of our SLES guests which we use as a gateway to
each DB2 instance that we want to allow remote access to. If this is
what you're interested in, I recommend reading this: http://tr.im/tvfx

After you've got the DB2 Connect Server configured, then you'll want to
install either the Data Server Runtime Client or the Data Server Client
on each of your Linux guests or LPARS where you'll be hosting the WMB
server (or any other applications that need to connect to DB2 for z/OS).
Which client install depends on the needs of your applications. The main
difference for us is that the Data Server Client includes all the header
files, which are needed for compiling C and COBOL applications. I'm not
familiar with WMB, so I cannot give you a good recommendation.

After you've installed one of the Data Server Clients you can catalog
the tcp/ip node of the DB2 Connect Server and it's DB2 instance. This is
required if you need to use the type 2 jdbc drivers.

Once that's done your applications will each connect to the DB2 Connect
Server, which will forward requests to particular host database.

Hope that helps. I spent a great deal of time with this a couple years
ago when we first got started, so feel free to ask any other questions.

Zach

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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33:18 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: WMB and DB2 Connect on z/Linux

>>> On 7/21/2009 at 10:11 AM, "Beesley, Paul"
 wrote:

> Hello
>
> We are installing WebSphere Message Broker on z/Linux to replace MQSI 
> on z/OS and have so far uploaded and installed WMB itself, MQ and DB2 
> We believe we need to install DB2 Connect to be able to run SQL 
> against
> DB2 files on the mainframe, but are confused as to what us actually 
> required.
> On IBM's download site ( Passport Advantage ) the options are :
> - IBM DB2 Connect Server 9.7 for Linux on System Z
> - IBM Data Server Runtime Client 9.7 for Linux on System Z
> - IBM Data Server Client 9.7 for Linux on System Z
>
> Has anyone already done this and can provide some advice ?

I've not done it, but I would suggest starting with DB2 Connect.


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Re: WMB and DB2 Connect on z/Linux

2009-07-22 Thread Zach Pratt
Here's what we do:

Currently, we have a DB2 Connect Server (Application Server Edition v9.5) 
running on one of our SLES guests which we use as a gateway to each DB2 
instance that we want to allow remote access to. If this is what you're 
interested in, I recommend reading this: http://tr.im/tvfx

After you've got the DB2 Connect Server configured, then you'll want to install 
either the Data Server Runtime Client or the Data Server Client on each of your 
Linux guests or LPARS where you'll be hosting the WMB server (or any other 
applications that need to connect to DB2 for z/OS). Which client install 
depends on the needs of your applications. The main difference for us is that 
the Data Server Client includes all the header files, which are needed for 
compiling C and COBOL applications. I'm not familiar with WMB, so I cannot give 
you a good recommendation.

After you've installed one of the Data Server Clients you can catalog the 
tcp/ip node of the DB2 Connect Server and it's DB2 instance. This is required 
if you need to use the type 2 jdbc drivers.

Once that's done your applications will each connect to the DB2 Connect Server, 
which will forward requests to particular host database.

Hope that helps. I spent a great deal of time with this a couple years ago when 
we first got started, so feel free to ask any other questions.

Zach

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From: "Mark Post" 
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33:18 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: WMB and DB2 Connect on z/Linux

>>> On 7/21/2009 at 10:11 AM, "Beesley, Paul"  
>>> wrote:

> Hello
>
> We are installing WebSphere Message Broker on z/Linux to replace MQSI on
> z/OS and have so far uploaded and installed WMB itself, MQ and DB2
> We believe we need to install DB2 Connect to be able to run SQL against
> DB2 files on the mainframe, but are confused as to what us actually
> required.
> On IBM's download site ( Passport Advantage ) the options are :
> - IBM DB2 Connect Server 9.7 for Linux on System Z
> - IBM Data Server Runtime Client 9.7 for Linux on System Z
> - IBM Data Server Client 9.7 for Linux on System Z
>
> Has anyone already done this and can provide some advice ?

I've not done it, but I would suggest starting with DB2 Connect.


Mark Post

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Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available

2009-07-22 Thread David Boyes
On 7/22/09 5:05 AM, "Agblad Tore"  wrote:

> Actually, you don't want KDE or Gnome running in z.
> That will be expensive. Depends on how you bill you CPU cycles :)

Like I said: you REALLY don't want to do this. You can, but it's just a
waste. 

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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Ursula Braun wrote:

> 4. Activate the network interface:
> ifconfig eth0  netmask 

Don't forget the default route if your PC is not on the same subnet as
the Linux guest (in most real world situations it is not)

route add default gw 

Rob

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Re: OSA/Express Assistance

2009-07-22 Thread Ursula Braun
Dave,

you can try to setup a qeth device manually at your HMC console using
these steps:
1. Check with lscss, if the subchannel triplet (0.0., 0.0.xxxy,
0.0.xxxz) of your OSA-device is available.
2. Define the ccwgroup device with:
echo 0.0.,0.0.xxxy,0.0.xxxz > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/group
3. Bring the device online:
echo 1 > /sys/bus/ccwgroup/devices/0.0./online
4. Activate the network interface:
ifconfig eth0  netmask 

Now you should be able to connect from your PC. Then you should check
the SLES10 configuration files:
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.
/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.

Regards, Ursula

Ursula Braun, IBM Germany, Linux on System z development

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Re: SDK for SLES 11

2009-07-22 Thread Florian Bilek
Mark,

Thanks, I think it is important to have as much as possible ported packages
to s390x even they are not supported by Novell and might be delived on an as
is base. I know from my work that we are always confronted with applications
that exists out in the Internet and suddently we have to support them in our
environment. And when I say, well that is nice but I need a lot of time to
produce all the dependent modules, I guess this will not be really an
convincing argument for the z/Series.

I read in one of my journals that Novell supports the building of packages
for software. However I don't have any details about that. Since I am not a
developer but rather an system engineer, it is quite difficult for me to
make soething which I could distribut on my images. So if there would be a
kind of service that hels in building rpms it would be extremly interesting
for me.

Kind regards,
Florian



On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 7/21/2009 at  6:49 AM, Florian Bilek 
> wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > I installed now the sdk-11 and have again some questions:
> >
> > - Is it right that the 2. Media is there only to provide the sources?
> Becaus
> > in that case I have no need to keep it on my install server.
>
> Correct.
>
> > - sdk 10 had a rexx package. I cannot find it under sdk 11. Do you have
> any
> > idea what happened to that? I hoped there would have been a newer version
> > than 3.3 of rexx.
>
> The SDK was slimmed down quite a bit for SLE11.  It had become a bit of a
> dumping ground for software that people thought might be useful to our
> customers, but that wasn't going to be supported.  Beginning with SLE11,
> there is an "extras" channel for non-SDK software that won't be supported
> either, but right now there's not much in it.  I don't know what selection
> criteria will be used for that channel.  I don't believe Regina is there at
> the moment.
>
> Since neither the SDK nor the extras channel will contain supported
> software, you might as well just build Regina from source.  I'll ask around
> internally to see if I can find out what sorts of things will wind up in
> extras.
>
>
> Mark Post
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Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available

2009-07-22 Thread Agblad Tore
Actually, you don't want KDE or Gnome running in z.
That will be expensive. Depends on how you bill you CPU cycles :)


Cordialement / Vriendelijke Groeten / Best Regards / Med Vänliga Hälsningar
  Tore Agblad

   Volvo Information Technology
   Infrastructure Mainframe Design & Development
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From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes 
[dbo...@sinenomine.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 03:20
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available

DISPLAY=yourworkstation:0.0;export DISPLAY
Gdm&

Although you REALLY don't want to do this. You're much better off running 
clients remotely with the display pointed to your desktop.

-- db



On 7/21/09 6:22 PM, "Bernie VK2KAD"  wrote:

Thanks for the package list - I went thru it and noticed that both Gnome and
KDE packages are installed - so my question is - can I get a GUI desktop
from my zFedora ???

If so, could someone guide me as to how I can accomplish this.


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Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available

2009-07-22 Thread Agblad Tore
Sorry, it was Hercules 
Then you actually don't want to run KDE or Gnome
it will be very slow  ;)

Cordialement / Vriendelijke Groeten / Best Regards / Med Vänliga Hälsningar
  Tore Agblad

   Volvo Information Technology
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From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes 
[dbo...@sinenomine.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 03:20
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Updated Fedora 11 hercules images available

DISPLAY=yourworkstation:0.0;export DISPLAY
Gdm&

Although you REALLY don't want to do this. You're much better off running 
clients remotely with the display pointed to your desktop.

-- db



On 7/21/09 6:22 PM, "Bernie VK2KAD"  wrote:

Thanks for the package list - I went thru it and noticed that both Gnome and
KDE packages are installed - so my question is - can I get a GUI desktop
from my zFedora ???

If so, could someone guide me as to how I can accomplish this.


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