Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - installing problems

2010-12-01 Thread Bern VK2KAD

Some success using LCS - I added the following to the Herc conf file

0700.2 3088 10.0.2.5 -n /dev/net/tun -m 01:02:03:04:05:06

and then restarted the install.

I then managed to make progress using the URL install method and ftp - after
successfully logging on to the ftp server things started to happen.   So far
so good.

Alas,  suddenly it all evaporated into a puff of smoke - the following is a
snip from the log.

Can anyone explain why the install decided to shutdown -

02:44:43,403 INFO: transferring
ftp://b...@20.250.180.52/RHEL6/images/instal
l.img
02:45:24,353 INFO: mounted loopback device /mnt/runtime on /dev/loop0 as
/tm
p/install.img
02:45:24,354 INFO: got stage2 at url
ftp://b...@20.250.180.52/RHEL6/images/i
nstall.img
02:45:24,354 INFO: reset repo= parameter to
ftp://b...@20.250.180.52/RHEL6
02:45:26,682 INFO: Loading SELinux policy
02:45:42,692 INFO: getting ready to spawn shell now
02:45:42,697 INFO: not spawning a shell
02:45:54,461 INFO: Running anaconda script /usr/bin/anaconda
about to exec shutdown
disabling swap...
unmounting filesystems...
   /mnt/runtime done
   disabling /dev/loop0 LOOP_CLR_FD failed: 16
   /proc done
   /dev/pts done
   /sys done
   /selinux done
waiting for mdraid sets to become clean...
Error: mdadm exited with status: 127
sending termination signals...done
sending kill signals...done
halting system
HHCCP042I SYSCONS interface inactive
CPU: SIGP Stop (05) CPU0001, PARM : CC 0
CPU: SIGP Stop (05) CPU, PARM : CC 0
Command ==>


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From: "Scott Rohling" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:02 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - installing problems


I was going to say - try LCS..  not sure if RHEL6 supports it - but have
RHEL5.4 running under Herc with LCS...  hopefully support wasn't dropped!

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Bern VK2KAD  wrote:


Thanks for the feedback - that seems to kill off Hercules as a platform -
unless there is some other way.(Any ideas ??)

Could be a bit tricky creating a DASD with the images and packages
folders.
don't have FC SCSI or CD/DVD ROM so that is ruled out - and NFS is also a
nogo :(


I'm not sure whether I should try LCS as the virtual OSA - does RHEL6
support LCS??

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Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - installing problems


 Am 30.11.2010 05:47, schrieb Bern VK2KAD:



Hi all

Me again, I have made some progress and have hit another blockage.

I wasn't having any luck with Hercules under Windows XP so I chose
another
path.
I am now running on Ubuntu8.10 with Herc 3.07.

I can successfully IPL from the generic.ins file and the installer
starts.

I get to the SSH login and successfully get a session with
inst...@10.0.15.3 - much progress ;)

Next comes anaconda and here is where I am stuck. I want to install via
ftp - I am following the RHEL6 Installation Manual - unfortunately it
doesn't quite match what anaconda is throwing at me. Possibly a
documentation mismatch??


At the "Installation Method" dialog box I select "URL" - next I get a
"No
driver found" dialog to which I select "Select driver"

Next dialog is a combo box "Select Device Driver to Load" - I cannot
get
any
of the options to throw anything other than returning me to the "No
Driver
Found" dialog again.

The obvious choices for Networking are the last 3 - but alas they all
behave
in the same way.
There is a "Specify option module arguments" input but I don't have a
clue
what is needed.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

B.



"Select Device Driver to Load" rings a bell, I've stumbled over that
during the F-14
development, too.
Bad news for you is that CTC isn't supported anymore as a installation
device in RHEL6,
I've added support for point-to-point devices back in Fedora-14.

  Karsten



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Re: Question to smsgiucv

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Troth
Look at the sample AF_IUCV programs in CMS. The connection to *MSG should be
the same, except that you'd want to translate EBCDIC to ASCII.

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On Dec 1, 2010 3:49 PM, "Florian Bilek"  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am looking for a possibility using the Virtual Reader under z/VM in
> z/LINUX. The idea is to process files received from a z/OS via RSCS.
> Off course I could regullarily start VMUR to poll the RDR but couldn't
that
> be done much smarter with an event starting VMUR ?
> I thought smsgiucv could do that but I am not sure how.Does there exist a
> sample?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
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Re: Question to smsgiucv

2010-12-01 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hi Florian,

Please don't use polling. You wakeup your machine even when nothing is
happening.

If you want to receive files you can use the linux console. When a file
is send to a guest a message on the virtual console appears. Trap this
message (use SCIF and PROP to monitor your linux consoles, like OPERATOR
or similar) and have PROP trigger a script to receive the file. That's
how we do it. We send files from VM and linuxguests to linuxguests,
either directly or through ftp to remote VM LPARs (we don't have RSCS
over there). When a RDR file arrives our PROP user issues a command to
the linuxguest to run a script that will receive and process the file.

Regards, Berry


Op 01-12-10 21:48, Florian Bilek schreef:
> Dear all,
>
> I am looking for a  possibility using the Virtual Reader under z/VM in
> z/LINUX. The idea is to process files received from a z/OS via RSCS.
> Off course I could regullarily start VMUR to poll the RDR but couldn't that
> be done much smarter with an event starting VMUR ?
> I thought smsgiucv could do that but I am not sure how.Does there exist a
> sample?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
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>
> Florian
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Re: Question to smsgiucv

2010-12-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/01/2010 at 03:54 EST, Florian Bilek
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am looking for a  possibility using the Virtual Reader under z/VM in
> z/LINUX. The idea is to process files received from a z/OS via RSCS.
> Off course I could regullarily start VMUR to poll the RDR but couldn't
that
> be done much smarter with an event starting VMUR ?
> I thought smsgiucv could do that but I am not sure how.Does there exist
a
> sample?

You may wish to consider the NJE/IP Bridge from Sine Nomine.  Google "+nje
+linux +sine" and click the first link.  It may already have all the
capability you're looking for.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
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Re: Question to smsgiucv

2010-12-01 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Florian Bilek writes:
> I am looking for a  possibility using the Virtual Reader under z/VM in
> z/LINUX. The idea is to process files received from a z/OS via RSCS.
> Off course I could regullarily start VMUR to poll the RDR but couldn't that
> be done much smarter with an event starting VMUR ?

I've kept meaning to add select() support or similar to vmur since
I wrote the original but it's never quite made it to the top of my
priority list. It should just be a few lines of code (catch the
unsolicited interrupt and wake any waiters) in the right place.
I'll try to take a look soon if nobody gets in there first.

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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread McKown, John
Many thanks. I never really looked closely at that "macdef" stuff. Very 
interesting. And it does what I need!

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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Eddie Chen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:35 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client
> 
> John,
> 
>   In your ftp client 
>
> Type:
> 
>   ftp> macdef Myput 
>   Enter macro line by line, terminating it with a null line
>   pwd
>   put $1 $1
>  
> 
>Then 
> 
> $Myput 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On 
> Behalf Of McKown, John
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:58 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client
> 
> I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. 
> Basically, run a job on z/OS to generate a file. Download the 
> file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do some intermediate work 
> on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of the 
> job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I 
> currently do this by starting up the Linux ftp client; do a 
> runique; then get the file. This results in the ftp client 
> creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so 
> on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the 
> runique command, but have it be the client default. I cannot 
> change the z/OS ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd 
> catch you-know-what if I did. . Is there some way to 
> have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why not just depend 
> on myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes 
> once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way to do this?
> 
> Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an 
> sunique and reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually 
> creating a file. I'm creating a SYSOUT report. And the z/OS 
> ftp server can then make that available to the Linux ftp 
> client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up 
> later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a 
> problem than I want to bother with. I'm lazy.
> 
> John McKown
> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
> 
> Administrative Services Group
> 
> HealthMarkets(r)
> 
> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> (817) 255-3225 phone *
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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Eddie Chen
The macdef is a macro. In the example, combines the PWD and the PUT in one 
command.  

In your case open an ftp client session:
  
Type:
 
  Macdef lazy 

and it will come back   

  
Enter macro line by line, terminating it with a null line  

Enter the following:

  Runique
  get $1 $1


Later  when you reopen the ftp session

   Type :$lazy  filename.filetype 
 

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John
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:55 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

Many thanks. I didn't really "get" what the macdef was about.

John McKown 

Systems Engineer IV

IT

 

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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client
> 
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, McKown, John
>  wrote:
> > I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. 
> Basically, run a job on z/OS to generate a file. Download the 
> file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do some intermediate work 
> on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of the 
> job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I 
> currently do this by starting up the Linux ftp client; do a 
> runique; then get the file. This results in the ftp client 
> creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so 
> on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the 
> runique command, but have it be the client default. I cannot 
> change the z/OS ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd 
> catch you-know-what if I did. . Is there some way to 
> have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why not just depend 
> on myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes 
> once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way to do this?
> 
> man netrc
> 
> $ cat .netrc
> machine zOS-hostname-or-ipaddress macdef init
> runique
> 
> $
> 
> > Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with 
> an sunique and reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually 
> creating a file. I'm creating a SYSOUT report. And the z/OS 
> ftp server can then make that available to the Linux ftp 
> client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up 
> later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a 
> problem than I want to bother with. I'm lazy.
> 
> A lazy man is an efficient man!
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Paul
> 
> > John McKown
> > Systems Engineer IV
> > IT
> >
> > Administrative Services Group
> >
> > HealthMarkets(r)
> >
> > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> > (817) 255-3225 phone *
> > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com
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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Philip Rowlands

On 01/12/2010 09:57, McKown, John wrote:

I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a
job on z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux.
Repeat. I do some intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work
changes the output of the job. I want to compare the output from the
various runs. I currently do this by starting up the Linux ftp
client; do a runique; then get the file. This results in the ftp
client creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so on.
What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the runique
command, but have it be the client default. I cannot change the z/OS
ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if
I did.. Is there some way to have the Linux ftp client do this
for me? Why not just depend on myself? Because I sometimes mess up.
And it only takes once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way
to do this?


runique/sunique aren't commands I use much, but it sounds like you'd
like to download  to  or whatever the latest number is?

Do they have to be in strict numerical order, or simply distinct names,
for example file.2010-12-01. Y-M-D sort nicely and don't depend on
previous filenames - throw in H-M-S if you need the granularity.

As for better ftp clients, there are several; curl, wget, lftp, ncftp.

The requested behaviour could be done as:
wget --no-clobber ftp://server/path/file

or including the date as
wget --output-document "file.$(date +%F)" ftp://server/path/file

See wget's --ftp-user and other authentication options to provide login
credentials (and don't put passwords on the command-line where other
users can see them with "ps").


Cheers,
Phil

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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Thomas Denier
-John McKown wrote: -

>I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a
>job on z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux.
>Repeat. I do some intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work
>changes the output of the job. I want to compare the output from the
>various runs. I currently do this by starting up the Linux ftp
>client; do a runique; then get the file. This results in the ftp
>client creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so on.
>What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the runique
>command, but have it be the client default. I cannot change the z/OS
>ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if
>I did. . Is there some way to have the Linux ftp client do this
>for me? Why not just depend on myself? Because I sometimes mess up.
>And it only takes once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way
>to do this? 
> 
>Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an sunique
>and reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually creating a file. I'm
>creating a SYSOUT report. And the z/OS ftp server can then make that
>available to the Linux ftp client. Saves me from creating the dataset
>and cleaning it up later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's
>more of a problem than I want to bother with. I'm lazy. 

Could you write a script that runs the Linux FTP client with commands
read from a file? We have an automated daily transfer of accounting
data from a Linux application to a z/OS application that works this
way. This transfer also uses the FTP client option that calls for
reading logon credentials from a file. In the absence of that option,
I am not sure what would happen when the FTP client attempted to prompt
you for a user name and password with standard input redirected.
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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Eddie Chen
John,

  In your ftp client 
   
Type:

  ftp> macdef Myput 
  Enter macro line by line, terminating it with a null line
  pwd
  put $1 $1
 

   Then 

$Myput 

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John
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Subject: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a job on 
z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do some 
intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of the 
job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I currently do this by 
starting up the Linux ftp client; do a runique; then get the file. This results 
in the ftp client creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so 
on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the runique command, 
but have it be the client default. I cannot change the z/OS ftp server's 
defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if I did. . Is there 
some way to have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why not just depend on 
myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes once to overwrite a 
file. Is there some other way to do this?

Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an sunique and 
reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually creating a file. I'm creating a 
SYSOUT report. And the z/OS ftp server can then make that available to the 
Linux ftp client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up later. 
I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a problem than I want to 
bother with. I'm lazy.

John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone *
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread McKown, John
Many thanks. I didn't really "get" what the macdef was about.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client
> 
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, McKown, John
>  wrote:
> > I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. 
> Basically, run a job on z/OS to generate a file. Download the 
> file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do some intermediate work 
> on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of the 
> job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I 
> currently do this by starting up the Linux ftp client; do a 
> runique; then get the file. This results in the ftp client 
> creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so 
> on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the 
> runique command, but have it be the client default. I cannot 
> change the z/OS ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd 
> catch you-know-what if I did. . Is there some way to 
> have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why not just depend 
> on myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes 
> once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way to do this?
> 
> man netrc
> 
> $ cat .netrc
> machine zOS-hostname-or-ipaddress macdef init
> runique
> 
> $
> 
> > Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with 
> an sunique and reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually 
> creating a file. I'm creating a SYSOUT report. And the z/OS 
> ftp server can then make that available to the Linux ftp 
> client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up 
> later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a 
> problem than I want to bother with. I'm lazy.
> 
> A lazy man is an efficient man!
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Paul
> 
> > John McKown
> > Systems Engineer IV
> > IT
> >
> > Administrative Services Group
> >
> > HealthMarkets(r)
> >
> > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> > (817) 255-3225 phone *
> > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com
> >
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Question to smsgiucv

2010-12-01 Thread Florian Bilek
Dear all,

I am looking for a  possibility using the Virtual Reader under z/VM in
z/LINUX. The idea is to process files received from a z/OS via RSCS.
Off course I could regullarily start VMUR to poll the RDR but couldn't that
be done much smarter with an event starting VMUR ?
I thought smsgiucv could do that but I am not sure how.Does there exist a
sample?

Thank you very much.

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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Troth
John --

Not sure I fully understand, but sounds like you may get far using a little
shell pipes and either 'curl' or 'wget'.

'curl' writes a URL to standard output by default.  'wget' gets web files to
your current directory by default, but can write to stdout.  (I suppose you
could "get" to stdout with 'ftp', but I have found 'curl' and 'wget' to be
more forward moving.)  Obviously your URL would start with "ftp://";, so the
point is to move away from an FTP-only client to a general web client.

YOU MAY eventually not even use FTP on the z/OS box for the task you
describe.  I was going to suggest immediate use of HTTP there, but you
mentioned limits on how much you can change there (or ... limits on how much
you can change without getting your fingers chopped or pinched).  So that's
another reason for going with 'curl' or 'wget'.

Note that 'curl' also has a USS counterpart.  I don't believe I have ever
used it.

Now ... to the pipeline ...
With 'curl' or 'wget' the "file", which is really SYSOUT, becomes literally
"stdout" (of the web reader client).  Feed that through your choice of awk,
sed, grep and munge it any way you need to.  You could also wrap-up a couple
of pipelines into a single shell script, throw their output into temp files,
and maybe run 'diff' against them.

I hope this helps.

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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 14:57, McKown, John wrote:

> I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a job
> on z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I
> do some intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output
> of the job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I currently
> do this by starting up the Linux ftp client; do a runique; then get the
> file. This results in the ftp client creating a series of file on Linux with
> .1, .2, .3, and so on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do
> the runique command, but have it be the client default. I cannot change the
> z/OS ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if I
> did. . Is there some way to have the Linux ftp client do this for me?
> Why not just depend on myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only
> takes once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way to do this?
>
> Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an sunique and
> reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually creating a file. I'm creating a
> SYSOUT report. And the z/OS ftp server can then make that available to the
> Linux ftp client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up
> later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a problem than I
> want to bother with. I'm lazy.
>
> John McKown
> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
>
> Administrative Services Group
>
> HealthMarkets(r)
>
> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> (817) 255-3225 phone *
> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com
>
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> TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
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Re: Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread Paul Rogers
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM, McKown, John
 wrote:
> I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a job on 
> z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do 
> some intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of 
> the job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I currently do 
> this by starting up the Linux ftp client; do a runique; then get the file. 
> This results in the ftp client creating a series of file on Linux with .1, 
> .2, .3, and so on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the 
> runique command, but have it be the client default. I cannot change the z/OS 
> ftp server's defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if I did. 
> . Is there some way to have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why 
> not just depend on myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes 
> once to overwrite a file. Is there some other way to do this?

man netrc

$ cat .netrc
machine zOS-hostname-or-ipaddress macdef init
runique

$

> Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an sunique and 
> reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually creating a file. I'm creating a 
> SYSOUT report. And the z/OS ftp server can then make that available to the 
> Linux ftp client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up 
> later. I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a problem than I 
> want to bother with. I'm lazy.

A lazy man is an efficient man!

Enjoy!

Paul

> John McKown
> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
>
> Administrative Services Group
>
> HealthMarkets(r)
>
> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
> (817) 255-3225 phone *
> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com
>
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Need "unusual" Linux ftp client

2010-12-01 Thread McKown, John
I download data from z/OS. And I do it repetitively. Basically, run a job on 
z/OS to generate a file. Download the file. Process on Linux. Repeat. I do some 
intermediate work on z/OS between runs. This work changes the output of the 
job. I want to compare the output from the various runs. I currently do this by 
starting up the Linux ftp client; do a runique; then get the file. This results 
in the ftp client creating a series of file on Linux with .1, .2, .3, and so 
on. What I would like to do is not need to remember to do the runique command, 
but have it be the client default. I cannot change the z/OS ftp server's 
defaults. Well, I could, but I'd catch you-know-what if I did. . Is there 
some way to have the Linux ftp client do this for me? Why not just depend on 
myself? Because I sometimes mess up. And it only takes once to overwrite a 
file. Is there some other way to do this?

Oh, I guess that I could make an ftp step in the job with an sunique and 
reverse the roles. However, I'm not actually creating a file. I'm creating a 
SYSOUT report. And the z/OS ftp server can then make that available to the 
Linux ftp client. Saves me from creating the dataset and cleaning it up later. 
I guess that I could do a GDG, but that's more of a problem than I want to 
bother with. I'm lazy.

John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone *
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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Re: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - installing problems

2010-12-01 Thread Steffen Maier

On 11/30/2010 11:59 PM, Karsten Hopp wrote:

Am 30.11.2010 05:47, schrieb Bern VK2KAD:

I can successfully IPL from the generic.ins file and the installer
starts.



At the "Installation Method" dialog box I select "URL" - next I get a "No
driver found" dialog to which I select "Select driver"

Next dialog is a combo box "Select Device Driver to Load" - I cannot
get any
of the options to throw anything other than returning me to the "No
Driver
Found" dialog again.



"Select Device Driver to Load" rings a bell, I've stumbled over that
during the F-14
development, too.
Bad news for you is that CTC isn't supported anymore as a installation
device in RHEL6,
I've added support for point-to-point devices back in Fedora-14.


This issue is described in the following bug comment and is due to 
loader (of anaconda) not accepting ptp network devices. CTC does work up 
to the start of loader since the earlier linuxrc.s390 sets up CTC 
correctly and this is used for the ssh login.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596826#c22

While the earlier parts in above bug are fixed in RHEL6 and upstream, 
the following fixes for your encountered issue only seem to be upstream:


http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=aec2e17840f2c3f5e5c605b96518e3d80dadf53d
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=dc68f9a6bc1c36d808a8c8c514f7cb6caac5f769
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=fa5ed4e8bbc5d56750a03a82b596dbdf804d1bf0
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=d3180ef38db7d4cc2615ebadedfbb59d9fe984cd

However, loader (as part of anaconda) accepting ptp devices is only part 
of the installation solution and NetworkManager also needs to accept ptp 
devices since anaconda uses NM to manage network devices once loader has 
started (and thus takes over device management from linuxrc.s390 which 
runs before loader on s390).

I found the following bug opened by Karsten for NM:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=641986

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Steffen

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