Re: Anyone have any good Debian media for a z9

2013-05-23 Thread Cameron Seay
I am, David.  Very much!  How can I get it?

Thanks so much!

Cameron

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Dave Jones wrote:

> Hello, Cameron.
>
> I've got a complete ready to go Debian s390x disk image that you can
> have. You just copy it to a DASD volume and bring it up.
>
> Let me know if you are interested.
>
> DJ
>
> On 05/23/2013 06:52 PM, Cameron Seay wrote:
> > We are trying to install Debian for z on a z9 and are running into issues
> > with the installation.   Our media is coming from the Debian site.  Does
> > anyone have any media they have uses successfully or any tips.  Red Hat
> > will only give us a 180 eval copy for educational purposes and we want to
> > use something else that we can use unfettered.  Help!
> >
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Re: Anyone have any good Debian media for a z9

2013-05-23 Thread Dave Jones
Hello, Cameron.

I've got a complete ready to go Debian s390x disk image that you can
have. You just copy it to a DASD volume and bring it up.

Let me know if you are interested.

DJ

On 05/23/2013 06:52 PM, Cameron Seay wrote:
> We are trying to install Debian for z on a z9 and are running into issues
> with the installation.   Our media is coming from the Debian site.  Does
> anyone have any media they have uses successfully or any tips.  Red Hat
> will only give us a 180 eval copy for educational purposes and we want to
> use something else that we can use unfettered.  Help!
>
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Re: Anyone have any good Debian media for a z9

2013-05-23 Thread David Boyes
On May 23, 2013, at 8:28 PM, "Shane G"  wrote:

> I'm sure this will induce Philipp Kern to rise to the task.
> 
> However a quick search on this list will also get you Fedora - that might
> suffice for educational purposes. Especially if you are RHEL inclined.
> CentOS used to do a s390x build, but I haven't seen that in years.

See my article in ESJ  in June. the CentOS project doesn't seem to be too 
interested, so we (SNA) revived it. It's available from 
http://download.sinenomine.net/clefos

Re:Debian. Drop me a note off list. We can help. No point in debugging on list.

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Re: Anyone have any good Debian media for a z9

2013-05-23 Thread Shane G
I'm sure this will induce Philipp Kern to rise to the task.

However a quick search on this list will also get you Fedora - that might
suffice for educational purposes. Especially if you are RHEL inclined.
CentOS used to do a s390x build, but I haven't seen that in years.

Shane ...

On Fri, May 24th, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Cameron Seay wrote:

> We are trying to install Debian for z on a z9 and are running into issues
> with the installation.   Our media is coming from the Debian site.  Does
> anyone have any media they have uses successfully or any tips.  Red Hat
> will only give us a 180 eval copy for educational purposes and we want to
> use something else that we can use unfettered.  Help!
> 
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Anyone have any good Debian media for a z9

2013-05-23 Thread Cameron Seay
We are trying to install Debian for z on a z9 and are running into issues
with the installation.   Our media is coming from the Debian site.  Does
anyone have any media they have uses successfully or any tips.  Red Hat
will only give us a 180 eval copy for educational purposes and we want to
use something else that we can use unfettered.  Help!

Long live REALLY open source software

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RES: Unexpected stop

2013-05-23 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Hi Mark,

Well remembered ...
Good approach to search.
I´ll go through this way ..
Thank you, and I will tell you what comes out.

HM

-Mensagem original-
De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] Em nome de Mark Post
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 23 de maio de 2013 19:51
Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Assunto: Re: Unexpected stop

>>> On 5/23/2013 at 06:26 PM, Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
 wrote: 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Does anybody have an idea/suggestion/solution to what I describe below?
> 
> IBM Z10 LPAR running SUSE SLES 10 SP4
> 
> Other day some external applications couldn*t connect to the data 
> base, neither to the SMB, neither do SSH (console) running on it.
> All appls stayed hanging for about 20 minutes.
> All processing was resumed without further notice AND WITHOUT ANY 
> CORRECTIVE ACTION.

I've seen cases where the size of the SGA and PGA, combined with the number
of process mmapping it and remote network connections to the database, just
about exhausted all the available "physical" memory defined for the system.
In those cases, the kernel went into a mode where it was trying to find
pages to page out, but almost everything was marked non-pageable, so it
couldn't.  After a while, connections would time out, processes would die,
freeing up some memory, and the kernel would start to be able to do some
paging and things would recover.

Because of the nature of the circumstances, no advance warning was possible
because no ramp up in paging was happening prior to the critical point where
everything just ground to a halt.  You might want to go through the exercise
of adding up all the things using memory that will cause it to not be paged
out and see if you're too close to the amount of memory available to the
system.


Mark Post

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Re: Unexpected stop

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 5/23/2013 at 06:26 PM, Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
 wrote: 
> Hi listers,
> 
> Does anybody have an idea/suggestion/solution to what I describe below?
> 
> IBM Z10 LPAR running SUSE SLES 10 SP4
> 
> Other day some external applications couldn*t connect to the data base,
> neither to the SMB, neither do SSH (console) running on it.
> All appls stayed hanging for about 20 minutes.
> All processing was resumed without further notice AND WITHOUT ANY CORRECTIVE
> ACTION.

I've seen cases where the size of the SGA and PGA, combined with the number of 
process mmapping it and remote network connections to the database, just about 
exhausted all the available "physical" memory defined for the system.  In those 
cases, the kernel went into a mode where it was trying to find pages to page 
out, but almost everything was marked non-pageable, so it couldn't.  After a 
while, connections would time out, processes would die, freeing up some memory, 
and the kernel would start to be able to do some paging and things would 
recover.

Because of the nature of the circumstances, no advance warning was possible 
because no ramp up in paging was happening prior to the critical point where 
everything just ground to a halt.  You might want to go through the exercise of 
adding up all the things using memory that will cause it to not be paged out 
and see if you're too close to the amount of memory available to the system.


Mark Post

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Re: Unexpected stop

2013-05-23 Thread Neale Ferguson
Running under VM? Were you able to issue commands on the console? If it's 
running under VM how big are the guests?




 Original message 
From: Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira 
Date:
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] Unexpected stop


Hi listers,

Does anybody have an idea/suggestion/solution to what I describe below?

IBM Z10 LPAR running SUSE SLES 10 SP4

Other day some external applications couldn´t connect to the data base,
neither to the SMB, neither do SSH (console) running on it.
All appls stayed hanging for about 20 minutes.
All processing was resumed without further notice AND WITHOUT ANY CORRECTIVE
ACTION.
No hardware errors were logged at machine HMC.
NO OS (Linux) error logged.

The switch just behind the OSA was responding normally.
We suspect of the OSA card because the ping had no answer DURING THIS
PERIOD.

More: we have an extra OSA card available for contingence.
Is there a way to configure "a kind of multipath" to automatically start up
in case of such faults?


Helio Mario - Brasil


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Unexpected stop

2013-05-23 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Hi listers,

Does anybody have an idea/suggestion/solution to what I describe below?

IBM Z10 LPAR running SUSE SLES 10 SP4

Other day some external applications couldn´t connect to the data base,
neither to the SMB, neither do SSH (console) running on it.
All appls stayed hanging for about 20 minutes.
All processing was resumed without further notice AND WITHOUT ANY CORRECTIVE
ACTION.
No hardware errors were logged at machine HMC.
NO OS (Linux) error logged.

The switch just behind the OSA was responding normally.
We suspect of the OSA card because the ping had no answer DURING THIS
PERIOD.

More: we have an extra OSA card available for contingence.
Is there a way to configure "a kind of multipath" to automatically start up
in case of such faults? 


Helio Mario - Brasil
   

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Fwd: Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 5/23/2013 at 01:46 PM, Mark Jacobs  wrote: 
> IBM has a stripped down version of TSM that executes on zOS that does 
> the actual tape I/O. TSM on another platform connects to the TSM running 
> on zOS. According to IBM, TSM on zOS is a no-charge version as long as 
> you're licensed for TSM elsewhere.
> 
> Mark Jacobs

This came up on the IBM-Main list today.  Just thought people might be 
interested in knowing that z/OS shops can run an up to date TSM server on Linux 
for System z while still using channel attached tape drives from the z/OS 
system.


Mark Post

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Re: Missing lv

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 5/23/2013 at 08:22 AM, Steffen Maier  wrote: 
> I think anaconda should not add swap or any other non-root-fs LVs to the 
> dracut cmdline.

Isn't that done so suspend/resume works?  I know that's why we do it in SLES.


Mark Post

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FW: RHEL 6.3 (non-)install on z/VM 6.2 at RSU6203

2013-05-23 Thread Chase, John
Posted this to the VM listserv; thought I'd better post it here, too:

From: Chase, John
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:50 AM
To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RHEL 6.3 (non-)install on z/VM 6.2 at RSU6203

Hi, All,

Trying to install RHEL 6.3 on z/VM 6.2 at service level 1301 (RSU6203).  About 
midway through configuring the DASD in the VNC session, the installation 
program goes into a "death spiral", aka "hard spin", aka 100% cpu loop.  We did 
not have that problem on the other CEC, where we installed RHEL 6.3 on z/VM at 
service level 1101 (RSU6201).  Both CECs have a single IFL on which z/VM is 
running; no GP CPUs in the z/VM LPARs on either machine.  Both CECs are z114s.

Any suggestions what to do besides "give up"?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: Trying to share 2 FCP on 2 zVM 6.2 SSI 2nd level

2013-05-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 05/23/2013 at 10:28 EDT, Sam Bass 
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> Running z/VM 5.4 with ZVMA62 and ZVMB62 guests on 1 CEC.
> Successfully brought of a z/Linux guest under ZVMA62 without FCP and did
VMRELO
> to ZVMB62.
>
> How can we test FCP for this z/Linux guest on these two second level
z/VM 6.2
> systems (ZVMA62 and ZVMB62)?

Well, you have to ATTACH/DEDICATE some of 1st level FCP subchannels to
your 2nd level guests and assign EQIDs to them.  To really validate
things, you need to have some with EQID1 and some with EQID2 on the target
system so that you can watch CP selecting one that matches the origin
system's EQID.

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Trying to share 2 FCP on 2 zVM 6.2 SSI 2nd level

2013-05-23 Thread Sam Bass
Running z/VM 5.4 with ZVMA62 and ZVMB62 guests on 1 CEC.
Successfully brought of a z/Linux guest under ZVMA62 without FCP and did VMRELO 
to ZVMB62.

How can we test FCP for this z/Linux guest on these two second level z/VM 6.2 
systems (ZVMA62 and ZVMB62)?

Sam Bass


Re: Tomcat for RHEL 6.3 on System Z

2013-05-23 Thread Filipe Miranda
Hi Srinivas,

The base channel for RHEL6 for z and RHEL Server Optional (v. 6 IBM System z) 
should be enough.


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On May 23, 2013, at 7:14 AM, "Hodge, Robert L"  wrote:

> Add more software channels to your server in Red Hat Network (RHN), and then 
> you should be able install it from RHN. 
> 
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> Subject: EXTERNAL: Tomcat for RHEL 6.3 on System Z
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> Hi ,
> 
> Is there a Tomcat version available for RHEL on System Z?
> If so please share the link.
> 
> Thanks in Advance.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Tomcat for RHEL 6.3 on System Z

2013-05-23 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Add more software channels to your server in Red Hat Network (RHN), and then 
you should be able install it from RHN. 

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Hi ,

Is there a Tomcat version available for RHEL on System Z?
If so please share the link.

Thanks in Advance.

Regards,
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Re: Missing lv

2013-05-23 Thread Steffen Maier

On 05/16/2013 07:55 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote:

That was it Steffen. I did a find / grep looking for vg_swap so I thought
it'd pick up the zipl.conf but I must have messed up the command. In any
event, I got rid of it and re-ran zipl.

Note, that rd_LVM wasn't put in manually by me but as part of the
installation.


Right, I vaguely remember having seen this, too, but haven't given much 
thought about it so far.
I think anaconda should not add swap or any other non-root-fs LVs to the 
dracut cmdline.
Searching for dependencies of only the root-fs with features such as lvm 
or multipathing is non-trivial so this might be an anaconda bug.



On 5/16/13 1:39 PM, "Steffen Maier"  wrote:

Do you happen to have this in your kernel command line?:
rd_LVM_LV=vg_rh62gfs/lv_swap


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Re: Error while IPLing Cloned Server - RHEL 6.3 on System Z

2013-05-23 Thread Steffen Maier
Of course, as already suggested, adapting the virtual device numbers in the 
hypervisor is the primary and easiest choice, if possible.



For cases where this is not an option or not even possible (e.g. WWPN and LUN 
with FCP), I strongly recommend to follow the RHEL 6 documentation.

For any resources (transitively, i.e. through and including any LVM or 
multipathing) required to bring up and mount the root fs,
dracut needs to be instructed on the kernel command line to activate the base 
physical devices
(in contrast to other distro releases, that information is usually (unless you 
build a host-only initramfs) not inside the initramfs which makes zipl or even 
other dynamic ways of passing kernel boot options at IPL suffice):
* DASD
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info.html#ap-s390info-Adding_DASDs-Persistently_setting_online-Part_of_root_file_system
* ZFCP
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_FCP-Attached_LUNs-Persistently.html#ap-s390info-Adding_FCP-Attached_LUNs-Persistently-Part_of_root_file_system
* And for the probably uncommon case of a network root-fs
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device.html#ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-qeth_Device-Persistently
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-Configuring_network_device_for_Network_Root_File_System.html#ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-Configuring_network_device_for_Network_Root_File_System

So in the original posting of this thread, I suppose the rd_DASD entries in 
/etc/zipl.conf would have to be adjusted and /etc/fstab because RHEL6 uses 
by-path for DASDs (in order to enable devno virtualization in the hypervisor as 
mentioned at the top of this mail) plus a zipl run.

Above is a significant difference to the persistent activation configuration of 
any other (data) volume, i.e. volumes that are *no* dependencies for the root 
fs. They only use /etc/dasd.conf, /etc/zfcp.conf, or 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-... respectively. No recreation of 
initramfs nor zipl run.



Since RHEL 6.0 there is transparent support for cio_ignore, if you use the 
documented ways of persistently configuring devices (both for the root fs as 
well as any other).

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info.html#ap-s390info-Adding_DASDs-Persistently_setting_online
> cio_ignore is handled transparently for persistent device
> configurations and you do not need to free devices from the ignore
> list manually.
> There is no need to recreate the initramfs.

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_FCP-Attached_LUNs-Persistently.html#ap-s390info-Adding_FCP-Attached_LUNs-Persistently
> cio_ignore is handled transparently for persistent device
> configurations and you do not need to free devices from the ignore
> list manually.
> There is no more need to recreate the initramfs. 

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device.html#ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-qeth_Device-Persistently
> cio_ignore is handled transparently for persistent device
> configurations and you do not need to free devices from the ignore
> list manually.

https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-Configuring_network_device_for_Network_Root_File_System.html#ap-s390info-Adding_a_Network_Device-Configuring_network_device_for_Network_Root_File_System
> There is no need to recreate the initramfs. cio_ignore for the
> network channels is handled transparently on boot.

For strictly maintained I/O configurations in the hypervisor (whether in z/VM 
or PR/SM), you may remove the cio_ignore option from the kernel command line, 
but it's not necessary.



HTH
Steffen Maier

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On 05/21/2013 07:11 PM, Mauro Souza wrote:
> I usually get rid of cio_ignore every time I install a Linux guest
> (but sometimes I forget to). I think this parameter is usable only
> when you install Linux on a partition, and this partition can see
> every device on the mainframe. On a Linux guest, the only devices
> Linux can see is the devices we gave to it, so cio_ignore does
> nothing we haven't already done. But it can lead to a lot of
> confusion and scratched heads when we change a device.
> 
> Ma

Re: Tomcat for RHEL 6.3 on System Z

2013-05-23 Thread Hall, Kenneth J
At least some of it comes with the distro.  I'm not an expert on it, but here's 
what's there:

= N/S Matched: tomcat ==
apache-tomcat-apis.noarch : Tomcat Servlet and JSP APIs
jakarta-commons-dbcp-tomcat5.noarch : DBCP dependency for Tomcat5
jakarta-commons-pool-tomcat5.s390x : Pool dependency for Tomcat5
tomcat6-jsp-2.1-api.noarch : Apache Tomcat JSP API implementation classes
tomcat6-lib.noarch : Libraries needed to run the Tomcat Web container
tomcat6-servlet-2.5-api.noarch : Apache Tomcat Servlet API implementation
   : classes
tomcat6.noarch : Apache Servlet/JSP Engine, RI for Servlet 2.5/JSP 2.1 API
tomcat6-el-2.1-api.noarch : Expression Language v1.0 API



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Tomcat for RHEL 6.3 on System Z

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Is there a Tomcat version available for RHEL on System Z?
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