Re: Linux VServer

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Shilson
> On Oct 25, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Jones, Russell wrote:
>
> > I am looking into running linux virtual machines under a linux host on
> > S/390 architecture. According to this list, Linux VServer is available
> > for S/390.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
> >
> > Has anyone tried it? Are there other virtual machines that will run
> > under a linux host on S/390?
> >
> > Thanks for your input.

There is a thing called XEN that does virtualization of Linux on Linux. It
has an open source version and a $ version by Novell.  z/VM is MUCH
better, though.

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Re: Novell Suse vs Red Hat

2007-09-25 Thread Tom Shilson
We chose SuSE originally based on license/maintenance costs.  (Our
management demands contracted support.) We later switched to RedHat since
Oracle supports running on RedHat but not on SuSE.  Since we only want to
support one distro, we went with RedHat.

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Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z

2007-09-06 Thread Tom Shilson
Fedora-DS is Fedora Directory Server, an open-source LDAP server.  That is
all I know.

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Re: db2 scripts using crontab

2007-09-04 Thread Tom Shilson
Crontrab runs a minimal profile before it executes the command.  You man
need to run the root profile within your script.  Use the . (dot) command
to exeute another script as if it were part the running script.  (E.g., .
/root/.profile )

I run my db2 scripts from cron as user db2inst1.  That solved some of the
problems with ownership.

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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 09/04/2007 10:02:18
AM:

> I'm trying to finish a script that will bring
> down/backup/zip/restart our database and schedule it
> using crontab.
> If I su to root and start the script it works fine.
> I've got everthing working except the down part of
> DB2.
> Everytime I issue the command I get permission denied.
> I was getting it on the force but I set the profile
> and that part works. I just can't seem to get db2stop
> command to work.
> Here is the command I have in the script:
> /opt/IBM/db2/V8.1/adm/db2stop
> What am I missing?
> What's the difference in su and placing something in
> roots crontab??
> thanks
> Mace
>
>
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Re: newbie : can i resize an ext3 fs

2007-08-21 Thread Tom Shilson
Assuming you are running under z/VM:

If you have all file systems on the same disk you may want to move one or
more directories to their own physical disk.  You can use the command du
-sk * to get the current size of the files in a directory and its
subdirectories. Create a disk of a size that includes room for files and
growth, copy the files from the directory to the new disk,  mount the new
disk at that directory, and erase the old files. (You may need to perform
the erasure from another Linux instance. See below.) Modify /etc/fstab so
the new disk gets automatically mounted. Directories that are most often
split off are /tmp, /usr, /var, and /home.  The idea is to keep those file
systems that most often fill up from affecting the root ( / ) file system.


After you mount the new file system you will not have any extra free
space.  The old files are still under the mounted file system taking up
space.  Shut down the problem operating system.  Detach the problem disk
(or log off).  From another Linux instance link to that disk.  Mount it at
/mnt.  Erase all the files and subdirectories under /mnt/var/.  Umount the
disk and detach it.  Log on to the problem system and boot.  Your world
should be bright and sunny!

Some file systems cannot be split from root ( / ). They are needed before
the other file systems get mounted.  An example is /etc.

If this all seems overwhelming, you can just DDR your current disk to a
bigger disk, swap the disk virtual addresses, and boot from the new disk.
There is a resize2fs command so that  will expand the file system so it
can use the new space.

Others who know more can expand on these notes.


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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 08/21/2007 05:15:23
AM:

> Hi,
>
> I did an install of sles9.  when i first did the install, i just created
> ext3 fs with mount point / and allocated all my disk space to this.
> Now my fs is getting full.
>
> Is there a way to add disk space to the ext3 fs that i created ?  I read
> about LVM . Do i need to setup LVM in order to resize my existing
> ext3 fs. will i loss any data in the process ?
>
> thanks.
>
> Caleb
>
>
>
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Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 08/01/2007 05:22:23
PM:

SNIP

> Does that mean that potentially that 1 mainframe has the equivalent of
> at least 130 network cards?  I can see how most of the hardware is
> virtualized, but the networking I don't quite see, yet.  How does that
> part work?

It works better if most of those noework connections are between virtual
machines on the same mainframe. Those connections are virtual and data
moves at the speed of memory.

There are other pipes to move data between mainframes.  There are
channel-to-channel adapters (fiber) and such-like.

The "NIC"s on a mainframe are OSA cards which can simulate a lot of
different connections.

Someone with more knowledge than I will give you a better answer, but in
the meantime

Tom

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Re: ZEN and zLinux

2007-07-02 Thread Tom Shilson
John is correct.  The latest version of Novell's ZENworks does not support
zSeries.  Previous releases did.

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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 07/02/2007 09:51:57
AM:


>
> IIRC, ZEN is Intel only. System z users really should use z/VM. It is
> more mature and more reliable.

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Re: VSWITCH

2007-06-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 06/01/2007 10:49:24
AM:


>
> "Network unreachable" messages mean that the packets aren't even
> going out the interface.  It sounds like he's either not able to set
> the IP address, or he's not coupled to the VSWITCH.

Could also be the wrong netmask.  That can confuse things.

Tom

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Fw: Strange file type cannot be moved with scp or ftp

2007-05-01 Thread Tom Shilson
My reply to Bill's question went directly to him.  I am forwarding it to
the list.

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Off the top of my head, I think this is a FIFO pipe.  (There may also be
LIFO pipes, but I am not sure.)  It is a staging device of a sort.
Application 1 will write to the pipe when it is ready.  Application 2 will
read the data at its leisure. When FTP tries to read the pipe it waits for
some other application to write to the pipe. Unless some other application
writes an end-of-file to the pipe, FTP will never end.

Don't try to FTP it.  Application 1 on the new system may build the pipe
there.  If not, you can manually build it.

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I am trying to move some files from one linux(Redhat if it matters) to
another and both scp and ftp are hanging on a strange file type.  I can't
find any reference to what this file type is but since it has a size of 0
I am thinking I can just ignore it.

Does anyone know what this might be?
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prw-r--r--  1 1 1   0 Feb  3 23:46 PIPE.dmp

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Re: Alloc memory errors....

2007-03-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 03/29/2007 03:31:32
PM:

> To clarify when we start seeing the slow downs I have been getting some
> TCP dumps to analyze.
> That's why we see the interface going into promiscuous mode.

If you don't need promiscuous mode you can specify with a tcpdump option
to not turn it on.  -p, perhaps? If the interface is already in
promiscuous mode, tcpdump will *not* turn it off.

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Re: Alloc memory errors....

2007-03-29 Thread Tom Shilson
The 2-order v. 5-order have to do with the amount of memory requested. The
memory manager pools each have a single request size for efficiency.  I
have forgotten the relationship between order number and amount of memory
requested.

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Re: Out of space, or not?

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Shilson
I have never seen in documented but I am told that df lies about the
available space in root.  The system keeps 10% of root for itself, just in
case.

I would love to see something definitive.

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Weird item.  The following shows the df command being used.  The second
time it is used, it has 0% available.  But then keep following the "Used"
column, and it is still increasing.  How can "Available" be 0 blocks, but
I can still get more?

This is SLES9 64 bit SP3 with ext3 file system.


linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/dasda17098008   6694616 42824 100% /
tmpfs   199684 0199684   0% /dev/shm
/dev/dasdb17098008 32828   6704612   1% /db2
linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/dasda17098008   6848368 0 100% /
tmpfs   199684 0199684   0% /dev/shm
/dev/dasdb17098008 32828   6704612   1% /db2
linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/dasda17098008   6931012 0 100% /
tmpfs   199684 0199684   0% /dev/shm
/dev/dasdb17098008 32828   6704612   1% /db2
linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/dasda17098008   6982912 0 100% /
tmpfs   199684 0199684   0% /dev/shm
/dev/dasdb17098008 32828   6704612   1% /db2
linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/dasda17098008   7057864 0 100% /
tmpfs   199684 0199684   0% /dev/shm
/dev/dasdb17098008 32828   6704612   1% /db2
linux42:/opt/IBM/VSE VTAPE Server #


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Re: Surprise, Microsoft Listed as Most Secure OS

2007-03-23 Thread Tom Shilson
Actually, Microsoft issued the fewest patches over a particular 6 month
period. It means nothing.  How many vulnerabilities is Microsoft working
on that we don't know about?  Which systems are easiest to crack into? All
this is not included it this report.

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Re: Firefox

2007-03-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Software, and/or patches.  I could download to my Windows (c) workstation
and scp them over to the server, but sometimes it is easier to just
download right to the server.  Some packages contain documentation in
html.  (Gr-r-r-r-r-r!)

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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 03/14/2007 09:35:13
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> I'm curious - what do you download from the WEB? Sounds neat.

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Re: firefox

2007-03-14 Thread Tom Shilson
I use X-windows from the mainframe for maintenance, installing products,
and (sometimes) downloading from the web.  I wouldn't recommend using it
as the home for a bunch of desktops.

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Re: firefox

2007-03-14 Thread Tom Shilson
You may have to have GNOME installed to get Firefox.  KDE uses a different
browser.

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Re: What is vnc

2007-03-10 Thread Tom Shilson
There is a vnc product named TightVNC.  It can use the SSH protocol to
provide more network security.

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Re: How does swap space work ?

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Shilson
My apologies.  It was not a CP command but it was a  display in the VM
Performance Toolkit. : -(  Click on the system then on Virt. disks in
stor.

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Re: How does swap space work ?

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Shilson
Carsten was suggesting that at point a time the first swap space filled.
At point b the system needed more storage so it used the second swap
space.  At point c a task that was using much of the space in the first
swap space terminated, freeing up swap space.  At point d we look at the
system and see the first space partially full and the second with some
pages being used.

The is a CP command, which escapes me at the moment, that will tell you
how many of the VDISK pages have been touched.  It should show that all of
them have been touched.  The Linux commands only show the current usage,
not the maximum usage.

Good Luck!

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Re: What is correct timezone version for sles8

2007-03-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 03/01/2007 03:29:12
PM:


> What is the correct timezone version that includes the updates??
>

timezone-2.2.5-239

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Re: Anyone have performance data for fs types with mysql?

2007-03-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 03/01/2007 07:35:04
AM:

> > that compared various filesystems.
> But, you might also consider the long-term plans for ReiserFS and JFS.
It
> seems the distributors/community is standardizing on ext file
systems.
>

Has Mr. Reiser's future been settled?  If he takes an extended vacation
courtesy of the State of California it may hamper development of the file
system.

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Re: Linux in a Windows Active Directory world.

2007-02-23 Thread Tom Shilson
We have a setup so that our Linux users authenticate their passwords
against AD.  We use PAM (Plugable Authentication Modules) on Linux.  We
added pam_ldap to the logon and SSH folders.  (I am writing this from
memory, so it may not be correct in details.).  We use the OpenLDAP client
and point it at ADAM. (I have forgotten what that stands for, it was
created by the Windows folks.)  We use OpenSSL to encrypt the link.

We don't need Samba or Kerberos.  Our goal was SSO (Single Sign-On) and
enforcement of stronger passwords.

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Re: full screen editor and SSH

2007-02-20 Thread Tom Shilson
I started on VM Rel 3 -- the *FIRST* VM Rel 3.  If *nix is going to be a
part of your life you may as well learn enough vi to get by.  Every system
has some version of it. You don't have to install or  port some
full screen editor in order to change a config file.

You *could* learn sed instead 

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Re: Linux and Railroad Diagrams

2007-02-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 01/31/2007 02:47:55
PM:

> Though as soon as z gets a 3d visor (3DV) and 'hand motion interpreter'
> (HMI) we might be able to do FILEDEF by using some of the recent
> breakthroughs in multidimensional visualization.  (Hey - if the
> motherboards can have a dozen layers, why not syntax diagrams?)


I love the idea.  Can my laptop be equipped with holographic output
instead of LCD screen?



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Re: OT: Linux and Railroad Diagrams

2007-02-01 Thread Tom Shilson
I think that I have adapted to the Unix-style documentation.

I wrote that sentence and then started thinking of the number of times
that I looked at the command syntax in a man page and have been totally
mystified.  Man pages are for people who already know how it works, but
just need to refresh their memory on some detail.   I agree after all!

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Re: Recall: SHARE: Chairbear URGENT! ACK!

2007-01-12 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi Shari,

I'm just wondering what program you are using for email.  I haven't seen
the RECALL function since PROFS.

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Re: Off Topic: DB2 31-but for Linux/S390

2007-01-04 Thread Tom Shilson
I think that you need IBM's Passport Advantage.  You can download the base
DB2 Connect from there.  Check with your IBM rep.

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Re: Quiet

2006-12-26 Thread Tom Shilson
I received your wishes.  Happy Solstice Holiday to you, also.

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Re: SLES 8 shrink root filesystem (reiserfs)

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Shilson
Shut down that system.  Link to the root disk from another system. Resize
it from the second system.

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Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
Same here.  Very disappointed.  Intel and z.

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Unsupported IBM Tools for TSM Journaling v5.3 Client

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
IBM had some tools for Journaling, like DBVIEW, FILEMON, etc.  I would
like to try them out.  The only version I can find is for pre-5.3.  Does
anyone know where the current version is hiding out?

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Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
I don't know what they are doing.  I opened the incident on-line
yesterday.  They came right back and request more info. I sent them that.
Haven't heard anything since.  I just requested a status update from them.


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We can't find this patch, or any mention of it, anywhere.  I have opened
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Mark, I saw something similar when we first went to SLES-9 (64 bit).  We
had MTU sizes being negotiated down to an idiotic packet size of 1492.
Whether or not this has to do with how our OSA is configured I never did
learn. Search for stuff with hipersockets and MTU in the archives for the
particulars.

We reported it to Novell. They eventually managed to test on SLES 9 under
z/Series and  eventually issued a patch. They sent us this file:

iputils-ss021109-147.2.PTF.184411.0.s390.rpm

I don't know whether or not this file is GA but it touched MANY IP related
items, indicating that the problem was pervasive.  Once we applied it our
MTU negotiation problem went away. It may or may not have bearing on your
situation, but I offer the information to any and all that might find it
relevant.

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Greetings all,

I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a
significant performance problem with SLES 9 and large MTU sizes was
brought
to my attention. I've been using MTU=32760. I set up a test to illustrate
the problem. I built a 256 MB file on one zLinux guest (running under z/VM
5.2 on a z9-109), with enough storage defined so the file could be
completely cached. I then FTP'd it to /dev/null on another server over a
hipersocket connection. Here's what I observed:
SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=8184,   ~75 MB/sec
SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec (as high as 132 MB/sec)
SLES8-to-SLES9, MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec
z/VM-to-SLES9,  MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec (from file on VDISK to /dev/null)
z/OS-to-SLES9,  MTU=32760,  ~25 MB/sec (from disk cache on z/OS)
SLES9-to-SLES9, MTU=8184,   ~75 MB/sec
SLES9-to-SLES9, MTU=32760, ~400 KB/sec (not MegaBytes, KiloBytes!)

Has anyone else seen this?

I use 32760 on my hipersocket links so as to be consistent with the 32760
MTU size used on CTC links to other processors owned by my z/VM TCPIP
machine, which is used as the gateway between Linux guests on one machine
and z/OS on the other machines.

Best regards,
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Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

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We can't find this patch, or any mention of it, anywhere.  I have opened
an incident with SuSE and will post the results here.

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Mark, I saw something similar when we first went to SLES-9 (64 bit).  We
had MTU sizes being negotiated down to an idiotic packet size of 1492.
Whether or not this has to do with how our OSA is configured I never did
learn. Search for stuff with hipersockets and MTU in the archives for the
particulars.

We reported it to Novell. They eventually managed to test on SLES 9 under
z/Series and  eventually issued a patch. They sent us this file:

iputils-ss021109-147.2.PTF.184411.0.s390.rpm

I don't know whether or not this file is GA but it touched MANY IP related
items, indicating that the problem was pervasive.  Once we applied it our
MTU negotiation problem went away. It may or may not have bearing on your
situation, but I offer the information to any and all that might find it
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Greetings all,

I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a
significant performance problem with SLES 9 and large MTU sizes was
brought
to my attention. I've been using MTU=32760. I set up a test to illustrate
the problem. I built a 256 MB file on one zLinux guest (running under z/VM
5.2 on a z9-109), with enough storage defined so the file could be
completely cached. I then FTP'd it to /dev/null on another server over a
hipersocket connection. Here's what I observed:
SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=8184,   ~75 MB/sec
SLES8-to-SLES8, MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec (as high as 132 MB/sec)
SLES8-to-SLES9, MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec
z/VM-to-SLES9,  MTU=32760, ~100 MB/sec (from file on VDISK to /dev/null)
z/OS-to-SLES9,  MTU=32760,  ~25 MB/sec (from disk cache on z/OS)
SLES9-to-SLES9, MTU=8184,   ~75 MB/sec
SLES9-to-SLES9, MTU=32760, ~400 KB/sec (not MegaBytes, KiloBytes!)

Has anyone else seen this?

I use 32760 on my hipersocket links so as to be consistent with the 32760
MTU size used on CTC links to other processors owned by my z/VM TCPIP
machine, which is used as the gateway between Linux guests on one machine
and z/OS on the other machines.

Best regards,
  Mark Wheeler, 3M Company

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Re: newbie, looking for a community of mainframe,linux users

2006-12-03 Thread Tom Shilson
Welcome!

This is the right place for those kinds of questions. Unfortunately I
don't know the answers.  My corporate desktop is Windows and I use
Reflections as my 3270 emulator.

Have you tried using the FTP client on the mainframe?  It may have options
that control the line-end characters.

Others will have better answers for you. Good luck, and, once again,
welcome!

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Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?

2006-12-01 Thread Tom Shilson
I work for a large-ish company with a relatively small, but growing, Linux
(Lintel and Lin-z) farm.  Considering our range of skills, we should have
an rpm that will install in hands-off, quiet mode.  If it is binary or
source it doesn't matter, just so it doesn't require thought or knowledge
on the part of the installer.

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Re: PuTTY Question

2006-10-12 Thread Tom Shilson
If you save a session named "Default Settings" then they become the new
Default settings.  I wouldn't know how to put them back to the original if
you mess something up.

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Re: question on DB2 and crontab

2006-08-10 Thread Tom Shilson
Try looking in a running DB2 script for a line that sets functions.  It
will start with a dot (.).  Something like "  .
/home/db2inst1/sqllib/db2profile  "

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We are trying to schedule DB2 and CM maintenance using crontab. The
maintenance has to be done as root. I've set the commands in roots
crontab and al looked fine. It appeared the commands worked because they
created the log files (with correct date and time stamps) associated
with the maintenance. But on closer examination the files all had a zero
byte count. So it looks as if crontab is doing his job and maintenance
is starting but no output is coming out and it also looks as if the
backups aren't done.I did a chmod on the scripts so I know they can
be executed. And I know the script work because when the scripts are
issued manually they work.

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Re: VMCP: Error: Could not set buffer size: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Very clever!  Thank you!  I will set up future systems remove and reload 
/dev/vmcp on boot-up.  Thanks for all the help! 

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On Wednesday 14 June 2006 23:35, Tom Shilson wrote:
> stat /dev/vmcp
>
>   File: `/dev/vmcp'
>   Size: 0   Blocks: 0  IO Block: 4096   character
> special file
> Device: 5e05h/24069dInode: 53011   Links: 1 Device type: 
a,3e
 
Yes, looks like I was right. The majro and minor number of /dev/vmcp is 
a,3e 
hex, which is 10,62 decimal. 

> cat /sys/class/misc/vmcp/dev
>
> 10:63

And it does not mtch the minor number of the vmcp device which was created 
by 
vmcp.ko.So the device node was stale and the uev version of SLES9 did not 
replace it with the new one. 

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Re: VMCP: Error: Could not set buffer size: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi Christian,

This is the information you asked for. Yes, I now know how to get around
the problem, but if you wish to explain more of what is going on, I would
be glad for the info.  Thanks either way!

uname -a

Linux king01 2.6.5-7.257-s390x #1 SMP Mon May 15 14:14:14 UTC 2006 s390x
s390x s390x GNU/Linux

strace vmcp q userid

execve("/usr/bin/vmcp", ["vmcp", "q", "userid"], [/* 55 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="king01", ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x80003000
access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=94457, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 94457, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x201b000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib64/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)  = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\2\2\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\26\0\0\0\1\0\0\0"..., 640)
= 640
lseek(3, 624, SEEK_SET) = 624
read(3, "\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\1GNU\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\6"..., 32) =
32
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1577693, ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x2033000
mmap(NULL, 1362384, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0)
= 0x2034000
madvise(0x2034000, 1362384, MADV_SEQUENTIAL|0x1) = 0
mmap(0x216, 118784, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x12b000) = 0x216
mmap(0x217d000, 14800, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x217d000
close(3)= 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x2181000
munmap(0x201b000, 94457)= 0
brk(0)  = 0x80003000
brk(0x80026000) = 0x80026000
open("/dev/vmcp", O_RDWR)   = 3
ioctl(3, 0x40041002, 0x80002ac0)= -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl
for device)
write(2, "Error: Could not set buffer size"..., 65Error: Could not set
buffer size: Inappropriate ioctl for device
) = 65
brk(0x80024000) = 0x80024000
close(3)= 0
exit_group(3)   = ?

stat /dev/vmcp

  File: `/dev/vmcp'
  Size: 0   Blocks: 0  IO Block: 4096   character
special file
Device: 5e05h/24069dInode: 53011   Links: 1 Device type: a,3e
Access: (0600/crw---)  Uid: (0/root)   Gid: (0/root)
Access: 2006-03-18 14:30:02.0 -0600
Modify: 2006-03-18 14:30:02.0 -0600
Change: 2006-04-01 16:23:39.0 -0600

cat /sys/class/misc/vmcp/dev

10:63

rpm -qv s390-tools

s390-tools-1.5.1-0.4

which vmcp

/usr/bin/vmcp

file /usr/bin/vmcp

/usr/bin/vmcp: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, IBM S/390, version 1 (SYSV), for
GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

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On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:53, Tom Shilson wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I get this error with vmcp.  /dev/vmcp exists.  Modprobe lists the
vmcp.ko
> module. I am running SLES 9 SP3  under z/VM 5.2 on a z9. A quick Google
> search and a search of these archives were fruitless.   I have tried it
> with various buffer sizes from min to max. This is s390-tools version
> 1.5.1.

Do you use the SUSE provided s390tools or a selfcompiled version?

To catch most of the possible reasons:
Can you post the output of
- uname -a
- strace vmcp q userid
- stat /dev/vmcp
- cat /sys/class/misc/vmcp/dev
- rpm -qv s390-tools
- which vmcp
- file /usr/bin/vmcp

Thanks

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Re: VMCP: Error: Could not set buffer size: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 06/14/2006 01:23:06 
PM:

> On Wednesday 14 June 2006 17:53, Tom Shilson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I get this error with vmcp.  /dev/vmcp exists.  Modprobe lists the 
vmcp.ko
> > module. I am running SLES 9 SP3  under z/VM 5.2 on a z9. A quick 
Google
> > search and a search of these archives were fruitless.   I have tried 
it
> > with various buffer sizes from min to max. This is s390-tools version
> > 1.5.1.
> 
> another idea. Does:
> 
> rmmod vmcp
> rm /dev/vmcp
> modprobe vmcp
> 
> solves this problem?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards
> 
> Christian Borntraeger
> Linux Software Engineer zSeries Linux & Virtualization

Yes it does!  I have no idea of why, but thank you! 

tom 

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VMCP: Error: Could not set buffer size: Inappropriate ioctl for device

2006-06-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi all,

I get this error with vmcp.  /dev/vmcp exists.  Modprobe lists the vmcp.ko
module. I am running SLES 9 SP3  under z/VM 5.2 on a z9. A quick Google
search and a search of these archives were fruitless.   I have tried it
with various buffer sizes from min to max. This is s390-tools version
1.5.1.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

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Re: Booting into Single User Mode (init 1)

2006-05-25 Thread Tom Shilson
Cool!  Thank you very much!

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With a SLES guest under zVM, we have a menu item setup for single user
boot through zipl:

Example zipl.conf:

-
[defaultboot]
defaultmenu = menu1

[ipl]
target = /boot/zipl
image = /boot/image
ramdisk = /boot/initrd
parameters = "root=/dev/dasdb1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq"

[singleuser]
target = /boot/zipl
image = /boot/image
ramdisk = /boot/initrd
parameters = "root=/dev/dasdb1 single selinux=0 TERM=dumb
elevator=cfq"
-


To get the menu at ipl time, do the ipl as follows:

ipl xxx loadparm prompt



The key is to pass the linux kernel the "single" parameter. SLES and
Redhat use this parameter to trigger single user mode, other distros may
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Booting into Single User Mode (init 1)

2006-05-24 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi all,

Is there a way to boot a Lin-z system into single user mode?   (I use SLES
8 (2.4.21) and SLES 9 (2.6.5) )

I saw a patch to kernel 2.4 to allow multi-boot if you had multiple boot
configurations in zipl.  Is there another way?  Was this patch picked up
into the kernel?

Thanks for the help,

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NTP on Lin-z Question: Recursive Directory Loop

2006-05-22 Thread Tom Shilson
On my SLES 9 Lin-z system on zVM 5.2 I have a recursive directory loop. It
is at /var/lib/ntp/var/lib/ntp/  The bottom ntp directory is actually
a link ntp -> ../..  I guess it is just a way to keep system programmers
busy!  :-)

Since I don't need ntp on my Lin-z/VM system I guess it doesn't matter.
Has anyone else seen this?  Quick looks on SuSE, Google, and ntp.org don't
show anything.

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Re: Google out of capacity?

2006-05-04 Thread Tom Shilson
Talking about heat!  The vendors are planning on, horror of horrors,
water-cooled processors!

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Re: VIM question.

2006-05-04 Thread Tom Shilson
On SLES 9 I did  rpm -qa | grep vi and got this:

vim-6.2-235.1
device-mapper-1.01.01-1.6
providers-2004.4.2-4.1
initviocons-0.4-298.1
sysvinit-2.85-21.3

It looks like the only vi file is vim and it is at the 6.2-235.1 level.
This one works as you would like.

I also  have a Red Hat Lin-z system: Linux  2.4.21-9.EL #1 SMP Thu
Jan 8 16:59:07 EST 2004 s390 s390 s390 GNU/Linux

It fails as yours does.  I do an rpm -qa | grep vi and it shows:

htmlview-2.0.0-10
vim-common-6.2.98-1
redhat-logviewer-0.9.3-5
redhat-config-services-0.8.5-19
vim-minimal-6.2.98-1
vixie-cron-3.0.1-74

I would be tempted to download and install a newer release of vim from
somewhere.


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Re: VIM question.

2006-05-04 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 05/04/2006 10:30:54
AM:

> The quoted documentation corresponds to my understanding to the -o
> option.  As I stated in my question: vim -o file1 file2 should open
> two windows, one with file1 and the other with file2.  It doesn't do
> that on the Intel Linux system I have here.  In fact a vi -o3 gives
> me an error.
<...snip...>

On my SLES 9, both Intel and z, it behaves as you would like.  vi file1
file2 opens two files but displays the first file.  vi -o file1 file2
opens each file in its own window. the N in -o[N] defaults to the number
of files.

vi -o3 works and gives me 3 windows each with a file named "no file".

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Re: VIM question.

2006-05-03 Thread Tom Shilson
On SuSE SLES 9 vim is installed.  Man vim shows a -o option, but it seems
to have a different meaning.

-o[N]Open N windows (default: one for each file)



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Re: Starting WAS, MQ, DB2, etc...

2006-05-03 Thread Tom Shilson
I concede that your way is better, but my way works most of the time and I
did it with very limited knowledge of the *nix world.

tomS

Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 05/03/2006 06:19:05
PM:

> > I, being a mainframe dinosaur, just wrote a script that checks for the
> > processes' existence.  If it ain't there, it starts it. I cron it
> every 5
> > to 15 mins based on how important the task is.  (Actually, it does a
> > netstat and checks for the port.) Samples available for the asking.
>
> Yeah, implementing the "probe" method in the init script would be the
> way to make that work as a systematic approach, but the disadvantages to
> this method are:
>
> 1) It relies on cron to be functioning. If a system has hit resource
> exhaustion and has started killing processes to try to stay alive, cron
> may be a early victim and what's going to restart cron if it dies?
>
> 2) There's the delay between the death of the process and the cron check
> for it. The spawner idea will react as soon as the kernel processes the
> SIGCHILD for the spawned process.

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Re: Starting WAS, MQ, DB2, etc...

2006-05-03 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 05/03/2006 05:17:20
PM:


> The only thing that inittab does right now that /etc/init.d scripts
> can't do is automatically respawn a failed application if it dies. We'd
> just need to write a "spawner" application that initialized, forked a
> specified command line as a child, and monitored it.


I, being a mainframe dinosaur, just wrote a script that checks for the
processes' existence.  If it ain't there, it starts it. I cron it every 5
to 15 mins based on how important the task is.  (Actually, it does a
netstat and checks for the port.) Samples available for the asking.

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Re: Starting WAS, MQ, DB2, etc...

2006-05-03 Thread Tom Shilson
We have DB2 Connect Gateway (not the database) running on Lin-z.  We wrote
our own startup script.  DB2 Connect wants to use the fault monitor but
that took a lot of cpu, so we don't use it.  We comment out the statement
that it puts in inittab.  (Every fixpak tries to put it back in.)

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Re: Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-28 Thread Tom Shilson
>
> Given that with the above vmhalt line any 'shutdown -h' command will
> trigger a vmdump, I would not recommend this approach.

Dang!  Thanks.

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Re: Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Tom Shilson
Thank you!

We have decided to go with VMDUMP rather than disk-based dumps.  I will try
making vmhalt=VMDUMP.  The "Dump Tools" book seems to be for the October
2005 stream, but I read it anyway.  It did help.

Thanks again!

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> It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process.
> You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The
> automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on
LINTEL
> is not available on LIN-z.  True?

You're right that one dump disk per server does not scale, and picking
one from a pool is not trivial (well, a pool of 1 could do). But you
would be better off with VMDUMP instead.

If the kernel crashes the CP READ wil make evidence disappear before
you're there to take the dump. My understanding is that the kernel
does a halt in case of bad damage, in that case vmhalt="VMDUMP 0:ALL"
would do the trick. Have a look at the "Using the dump tools" book
which describes the process to read in the dump in Linux (in the Linux
that caused the dump, or at least one with exactly the same level of
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Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Tom Shilson
It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process.
You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The
automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL
is not available on LIN-z.  True?

It seems that if I don't want to have a dump disk on every LIN-z system
then I need to do the VMDUMP.  Could I have a pool of dump disks and link
to one when I need it?  Would a SLES 9 dump disk dump a SLES 8 system?  How
about a RedHat system?

Thanks for the help.

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kernel panic: qeth_prepare_skb: misaligned packet SLES 9 SP3 +

2006-04-22 Thread Tom Shilson
I would love some help on how to troubleshoot this.

The SuSE website isn't any help.  Google gives me lots of hits, but they
included every patch to the qeth code as it contains the above message. The
is a lot of chaff.  I haven't found any wheat yet.  We will probably open
an incident with SuSE, but that is like admitting failure.  :-)  The thing
that the kernel panic damages most seems to be it's memory of the LVM
definitions. Beats me.

Here is some of the console log:

qeth: qeth_prepare_skb: misaligned packet on interface sysjhsc1.
Discarded.<1>Un
able to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual
 kernel address 



Call Trace:
 -<7fa2ce2c>- qeth_hard_start_xmit+0x438/0x2554 -qeth-
 -<002dac72>- qdisc_restart+0x92/0x268
 -<002c967a>- dev_queue_xmit+0x1b6/0x314
 -<002f01f8>- ip_finish_output+0x16c/0x32c

 -<002f05d0>- ip_output+0x11c/0x1b0
 -<002ed524>- ip_dst_output+0x58/0xd0
 -<002ef96e>- ip_queue_xmit+0x46e/0x580
 -<003019d6>- tcp_transmit_skb+0x37e/0x6e8
 -<00302e0e>- tcp_retransmit_skb+0x1da/0x6ac
 -<003056d0>- tcp_write_timer+0x3b4/0x7d0
 -<0013cfc4>- run_timer_softirq+0x180/0x2a0
 -<0013820c>- __do_softirq+0x70/0x104
 -<00138306>- do_softirq+0x66/0x6c
 -<0011fa38>- do_call_softirq+0x38/0x44
 -<0010cbbe>- do_extint+0x126/0x140
 -<0012011c>- ext_int_handler+0xa0/0xa4

 <0>Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt
In interrupt handler - not syncing
HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 00020001 8000 
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Re: 3270 keyboard setup so that "vi " can be used

2006-04-03 Thread Tom Shilson
I have used vi on the system console but you are very limited.  You can't
do anything that requires special characters.

There are two workarounds, it seems.  You can set up the system console as
3270 then use NED.  That is on my to-do list. Another way out is to use
Linux tools that don't need special keys.  You can use a line editor like
ed, sed and awk, pipes and such-like.  One geek here sees every problem as
a chance to write a one-line perl command!

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Re: SLES9 -using FTP server to install packages - Yast does not find the sources!

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Shilson
In SLES8 you could copy all the CDs into one directory and it would work.
In SLES9 they fixed that.  The CDs need to be in a particular structure
with some links and the server has to be running a YaST server program.

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Re: Hipersocket stopped

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Just out of curiosity, what is the MTU size?

Thanks,

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Zipl Parameters

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Shilson
Is there a list somewhere of the mainframe-related parameters for zipl?  I
am thinking of things like VMHALT,  VMPOFF,  dcss.segments, etc.

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How to load the vmcp driver?

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Shilson
I am playing with VMCP.  It uses a driver named vmcp.ko that appears as
/dev/vmcp.  In order for this to work the driver must be loaded.  It can be
done manually with modprobe or insmod. I wanted it to be done automatically
at boot time so I created an init script and used insserv to set it up.  It
works.

It seems to me that there must be a better way to have a driver loaded at
boot time. Isn't there a file that has a list of such things?
modprobe.conf.local just has alias names and options.  It doesn't seem to
force loading.

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dcssblk.segments= Kernel Parameter Invalid??

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Shilson
My z/VM wizard returned from share greatly excited to try swapping to DCSS.
He set up the segments and an EXEC that would properly define storage with
the gap.  It was up to me to do the Linux part. With only a few stumbles I
got it running.  There is one inconsistency.  I set up the zipl.conf
parameter to specify dcss.segments=SWAP16M, .  The console
log says that the dcss.segments= parameter is invalid, yet it must be there
for swapping to DCSS to work. /proc/cmdline shows the entire parameter
string.  Here is a snip from the console log:

Kernel command line: root=/dev/dasdb1 selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq
vmpoff=LOGOFF
dcssblk.segments=SWAP16M,SWAP32M,SWAP64M,SWAP128M,SWAP256M,SWAP512M
BOOT_IMAGE=0
Unknown boot option
`dcssblk.segments=SWAP16M,SWAP32M,SWAP64M,SWAP128M,SWAP256M,SWAP512M':
ignoring

Here is my zipl.conf parameter string: parameters = "root=/dev/dasdb1
selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq vmpoff=LOGOFF
dcssblk.segments=SWAP16M,SWAP32M,SWAP64M,SWAP128M,SWAP256M,SWAP512M "

This is SuSE SLES9 64-bit SP3 recently patched running on z/VM 5.2 on a
z900.

Can anyone explain it or tell me which organization I should notify?

Thanks,

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Re: Hipersockets w/ Linux in an LPAR

2006-03-16 Thread Tom Shilson
We are running DB2 Connect on Lin-z in z/VM. Each has two ports.  One goes
to VSWITCH, out to the corporate backbone then to the PeopleSoft Windows
servers.  The other is a hipersockets link to DB2 on z/OS. Works great!

We did some performance tests with the central DB2 Connect v. DB2 Connect
clients on each PeopleSoft server.  There was a significant improvement in
response with hipersockets. It also made administration a lot easier.

Good luck!

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Installing TSM on 64-bit Linux on zSeries.

2006-03-14 Thread Tom Shilson
I opened a PMR with Tivoli on the installation problems.  Here is the
response:





 The README is incorrect regarding the installation steps when the 64 bit
 API is required. It is still required to have the 32 bit API installed
 when using the 32 bit B/A Client. Please uninstall the B/A Client, then
 the API client and reinstall in this order:
 .
  (-> TIVsm-API64.s390.rpm only if needed e.g. using a DP client)
  -> TIVsm-API.s390.rpm
  -> TIVsm-BA.s390.rpm"
 .
 Once the correct packages are installed, the issue should be resolved.









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Re: Patching servers

2006-03-09 Thread Tom Shilson
Our Windows folks do patching quarterly, except for security patches.  We
have a committee that ranks the vulnerabilities' risk to the company.  Some
of them get classed "Immediate" which means they get installed within 24
hours.  So on Black Tuesday our Windows folks spend the night patching DEV
and QA servers and the next night doing PROD servers.

We are still setting up our infrastructure for LIN-z and LINTEL but we will
expected to follow suit.

We have looked longingly at ZENworks and Aduva (www.aduva.com) but have no
budget for such things.

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Re: SuSE 9 64-bit, SWAP, and DIAG driver

2006-03-08 Thread Tom Shilson
That is not what I wanted to hear, but it has the ring of truth.  Gr-r-r-r!
Thanks for the response!


Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 03/08/2006 11:08:12
AM:

>
> I don't know about that 'private patch', but:
>
> z/VM 5.2:
> Block I/O (Diagnose X'250'): Extended to allow a virtual machine to
> specify parameter addresses and I/O buffers with addresses above 2 GB.
> This will benefit operating systems that use DIAGNOSE code X'250' in a
> 64-bit environment. IBM is working with its Linux distribution partners
to
> exploit this function in future Linux on System z9 and zSeries
> distributions or service updates.
>
> (http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/HCSF8B10.PDF)
>
> Linux 2.6.14:
> Add support for diag 250 access to dasd devices for 64 bit kernels.
>
> (http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.3/1218.html)
>
> SLES9 (including latest service packs) does not include this Linux
support
> though.
>
>
> Regards,
>   Peter Oberparleiter
>
> --
> Peter Oberparleiter
> Linux on zSeries Development
> IBM Development Lab, Boeblingen/Germany
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SuSE 9 64-bit, SWAP, and DIAG driver

2006-03-08 Thread Tom Shilson
I have just installed SuSE SLES 9 on zVM 5.1. It is Service Pack 0 but
fully patched.  It is not finding the vdisks that I allocated for swap.
Googling around seems to indicate that it won't work on 64-bit, although
there is a private patch that does make it work.  Does someone have the
latest status on this?

Thanks,

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Re: Cannot read package from the installation media. Media error ?

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Shilson
I am going to move my repository to a *nix system.  From all that I am
finding out YaST uses some extensions to SMB that Windows does not support
or supports badly.  I could open an incident with SuSE and make them make
it work, but I don't have the energy to do battle right now.  Also, the
repository will eventually reside on zLinux anyway.

Thanks to all for the help.

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Re: Cannot read package from the installation media. Media error?

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/23/2006 10:35:42
AM:

> I looked at CD1 for an Intel SLES9.  It has this file
> /dosutils/install/install.bat that appears to be Windows oriented.  What
> didn't work with that?

The script seemed to work fine.  It loaded the CDs into what seem to be the
proper directories.  I defined the shares per the instructions. I can boot
the starter system from the reader and define the network.  I tell it to
use Samba and give it the share.  Yast starts up but when I get the panel
with the proposal for the installation, the section under Software says "
Cannot read package data from installation media.  Media error?"

It does seem to boot a second starter system from the share just before it
starts YaST.

Beats me.

tomS

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Re: Cannot read package from the installation media. Media error?

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/23/2006 10:11:17
AM:

> I would surmise that the problem is more related to not being in the
> proper directory structure that the SLES9 installer expects.  You can't
> just dump everything into one directory and have it work, which is why
> Mike MacIsaac developed the mksles9root script in the first place.  (See
> http://linuxvm.org/Patches/#mksles9root for the most current version.)

Yesterday I found a script on CD1 (install.dos) which sets up directories
and loads the CDs into the right places.  I thought that all my problems
were solved!  Alas and alak!

The mkslesroot script is a shell script for *nix, not for Windows.

I'll keep hunting.  I may break down and open a ticket with SuSE.

Thanks for the help,

tomS

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Re: Cannot read package from the installation media. Media error?

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/22/2006 06:52:50
AM:

> My guess would be you're using a Windows FTP server on your laptop,
> and this doesn't work.  You either need to use an FTP server or NFS
> on Linux.  The problem has to do with Windows being rather casual
> about case-sensitivity in file names.

I am using SMB protocol, which is *supposed* to work.  Thanks anyway.

tom

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Cannot read package from the installation media. Media error?

2006-02-21 Thread Tom Shilson
I am trying to install SLES 9 on zVM.  I go through the boot of the card
decks, get VNC running, format the disks, then I get the panel with all the
options.  Under "Software" is the subject message.

I have tried to load from the CD in my laptop's CD Drive and from a share
on my laptop. (I have copied all the CDs to the share.)  Both get the same
error.

zVM is 64 bit and this is 64-bit Linux. Do I need to  specify a certain
folder?  Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: Xen

2006-02-16 Thread Tom Shilson
Xen is a Linux form of VMWare.  It allows you to run multiple instances of
Linux.  Instead of creating a virtual machine, however, Xen shares the
kernel.  Compared to VMWare (or zVM) it is limited because of this.  I have
never used it.  I believe that it is an OpenSource project.

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Re: zLinux performance monitoring

2006-02-07 Thread Tom Shilson
You may want to start with IBM's Performance ToolKit plus Linux commands
such as sar, vmstat, swapon -s, etc.  Mind that Linux's view of CPU %
can/will be wrong. You may also want to check the archives of this mail
list.

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Minneapolis, MN zLUG December 14

2005-11-22 Thread Tom Shilson
Folks,

Our next zLUG meeting will be held at the Downtown Minneapolis IBM facility
on 650 Third Ave South in the Lake Minnetonka Room 325 from 8:30-12:00.
Please let me know if you plan to attend this session as I need to keep an
accurate count. Thanks !

Please forward this agenda on to others that may be interested in
attending.

Agenda:
8:30-9:00 Continental Breakfast
9:00-10:00 Mayo Clinic Customer Experience, IBI and Tivoli
Framework Products
10:00-10:15Break
10:15-12:00 IBM Bill Reeder, Why and When you use zSeries
Linux

Kelly Cyskiewicz
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Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Shilson
z/VM is world's best virtualization engine!  IMHO, of course.

A good thing to have would be a tool to take full disk backups of the
virtual machines.  We were using VM: Backup to backup our CMS disks and
have added the Lin-z systems to its plate. It is a convenient restore
method for when I do something really stupid. We have never done a TSM
restore to (virtual) bare metal.

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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 11/19/2005 05:06:46
AM:

> Try also Virtualization Engine!!!
> See you
> Max

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Re: UDB for RHEL 4 32(31) bit

2005-10-20 Thread Tom Shilson
UDB 8.2 is identical to UDB 8.1 with fixpak 7a, if that helps.  Even if it
doesn't.  :-)

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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 10/20/2005 02:04:03
PM:

> Hello. Does anyone know where I can get  UDB 8.2  for RHEL4 32(31) bit
> flavor?  I've been to the IBM website to down load a trial UDB 8.2 and
all
> they have is 64bit for S/390.
> I'm running z/VM 5.1 and running RHEL 4  (31 bit)
> I have tried the 64bit flavor of Linux and have had odd things happen so
I
> apprehensive to try it again.
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Re: Different time between z/VM TOD and z/Linux.

2005-04-26 Thread Tom Shilson
How much is the time difference?

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Re: OORexx

2005-04-13 Thread Tom Shilson
Does anyone want to try this out?  Let me know.


Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 04/13/2005 11:02:58
AM:

> OORexx is now available for download: http://www.oorexx.org/
>
> (Sourceforge download site:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119701)
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Re: Per engine pricing..

2005-04-11 Thread Tom Shilson
Often the department that owns the servers gets a square-foot charge flat
rate, adjusted each year.  Power is a factor in that charge. The
server-owning department will get a reduced charge if they reduce power,
but it not immediately obvious.  Perhaps if the server-owning manager
talked to the building-owning manager something might happen.

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This is government, no such thing as one person in charge.

We are a City and a County.  The Mayor is in control of the City, and
another 8 elected offices are in the County (but no County supervisor).
So, there are 9 officials in charge.  Not even the voters are in charge
as the State of Missouri appoints some of the officials.

Even the City police force isn't under the rule of the Mayor.  The
State of Missouri took control of the St. Louis Police force and the
Kansas City police force during the Civil war.  The State was a slavery
state, but the metro areas (or what might pass for a metro area back
then), were not that much into that slavery thing.  The underground
railroad was a big thing in St. Louis that helped many slaves get across
the river to IL (free state).

Oh, btw, the City being it's own County, isn't the same thing as St.
Louis County, that is a different County.  Confused yet?

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/11/05 9:54 AM >>>
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:15:00AM -0500, Tom Duerbusch wrote:
> Now I don't know many department managers that would spend X dollars
> out of their budget to save Y dollars in someone elses budget.  You
> might use the savings to justify the expenditure "up the line", but
the
> savings are soft dollars.  Never measured.  Never seen.

So you just need to go a bit further 'up the line' to find the point
at
which the two departments have a common manager, and sell it to
him/her. :)

At some level in any organisation there's someone who would have
visibility
of both budgets -- if that's the Managing Director (CEO, President,
whatever)
then it might be a bit harder but it doesn't make the point invalid...

The nice thing is that cutting utility costs doesn't (usually) do
anyone
out of a job -- it makes for an easier cost-saving proposition than
the
budget cuts that might mean job losses.  How many CEOs would knock back
a
proposal that: a) reduced overheads, and b) didn't involve giving
anyone the
sack?

Cheers,
Vic Cross

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Re: IFL LPAR names ?

2005-04-07 Thread Tom Shilson
Their "typical" naming convention for IBM z/OS is 1-8 characters, begin
with an Alpha, stick to letters, numbers and national characters. All our
LPARS are all upper case alpha. I don't know if that is by restriction or
by habit.  I would expect the IOCP Gen to tell you if it doesn't like it.

If you find something that doesn't work, let us know!  :-)

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Security Scanners.

2005-04-07 Thread Tom Shilson
We are starting a formal scanning program for our Linux-on-z systems. The
currently favored scanner is ISS because it is what we use for Windows
systems.  My understanding is that Nessus is a better scanner for Linux
systems.  What tools do you use and what are the good and bad points?

If you respond to me off-list I will publish a summary next week.

Thanks,

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Re: cron stopped working???

2005-03-12 Thread Tom Shilson
Is the cron daemon running?

Is there any mail from cron in root's mailbox that may indicate the
problem?

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ZLUG in Minneapolis on Mar 17

2005-03-04 Thread Tom Shilson
The next meeting of the Minneapolis zLUG will be on Mar 17 at the IBM
offices in Minneapolis. The presenters will be the State of MN on Oracle on
zLinux user experiences and IBI on WebFocus. You may contact me off-line
for more info.

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Re: Hipersockets and DB2...

2005-02-22 Thread Tom Shilson
Does anything else work across the hypersockets LAN?

tom

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Re: Putty users

2005-02-09 Thread Tom Shilson
We have corporately-decreed Windows desktops. I use PuTTY because,
basically, that is what I know. I have tried cygwin and found it
challenging. I will keep working with it.  I have used scripts of Plink
commands to "spray".  We also use REXX a lot to FTP changed files to our
systems. I wish z/VM had an SSH client!

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Re: comparison beetwen Linux and UNIX

2005-02-07 Thread Tom Shilson
OpenVMS is different from OpenVM.  OpenVM is POSIX on VM.  OpenVMS is what
was the DEC operating system.

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Richard:
Where can I find more info on OpenVMS?
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Andri ...

You've gotten some good responses.   Does this information help?

Linux is a done-by-volunteers implementation of POSIX.
Unix is a branded implementation of POSIX  (and contains "DNA",
as they call it,  of the historical Unix operating system).
As far as we know,  Linux does not contain any AT&T Unix code.

Unix (POSIX) implementations that run on mainframe hardware include:

 + UTS (originally from Amdahl, now spun off to UTSGlobal)
 - AIX/370 (including both S/370 and XA operation modes)
 - AIX/ESA .. way ahead of its time!
 - "experimental" systems such as IX/370 and VM/IX
 * USS
 * OpenVM
 + Linux

The last two,  marked with "*",  are not stand alone operating systems.
The two marked with "+" are the only currently viable POSIX
operating systems available for mainframe hardware.

UTS is the system on which I learned Unix.   It has always
exploited S/370 (and now S/390 and zSeries) hardware,  not merely
tolerating it.   For example,  UTS treats 3270 terminals as
normal terminals and addresses the EBCDIC matter and the block mode
nature of these devices in some creative ways.   I have heard it said
that the original developers of UTS not only understood mainframe
hardware but also understood Unix.   (This is counter to the usual
"us -vs- them" embattlement between mainframe people and Unix people.)

AIX/ESA deserves mention for its academic and historical value.
It had a Mach based kernel,  a feature which makes it superior to Linux.
It exploited S/390 "data spaces" rendering enormous memory regions,
beyond its contemporary Unix peers.

AIX/370 was sold commercially.   (My experience was in academia.)
It was a port of AIX for PC hardware to the S/390,  and to me seemed
a bit half-hearted:  did not exploit S/390 hardare,  toleration only.

USS (UNIX Systems Services) is a POSIX layer on top of MVS.
The character set is EBCDIC,  which any traditional Unix user
will find very confusing.   Other than that,  USS is Unix
in that it follows the POSIX specification and has Unix branding,
so legally it is as close to Unix as HP-UX or AIX,  though it is
not what a Solaris customer would expect.

OpenVM is a POSIX layer on top of CMS.   Here too,  the character
set is EBCDIC.   I am a huge fan of OpenVM  (since getting over the
char set issue).   It is an execellent implementation,  but it
does lack some important features  (notably, fork() is partial).

If someone who knows IX/370 or VM/IX could share their knowledge
we might learn a little more about the fork() situation along the way.

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Re: Linux task structure

2005-02-02 Thread Tom Shilson
The /proc file system has a lot of that kind of information, but I can't
figure out how it access the information from outside Linux.  It looks like
SNMP is the best tool.  Linux still has to 'wake up' to process the SNMP
request.

I wanted to follow control blocks in Linux memory from 'outside' of Linux
by using VM commands.  It worked on lots of other programs and operating
systems. The problem is that the documentation just isn't there.  We're not
in the mainframe world any more. I don't have much experience reading C, so
I gave up, at least for now.

tom

Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/02/2005 08:07:18
AM:

> Hi, folks.
>
>   I apologize for wording my request poorly. What I'm really after is
> the task or process structure and how to locate the "task list" in
> memory.
>

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Re: Linux task structure

2005-02-01 Thread Tom Shilson
How much can you spend? :-)

SNMP may  be able to give you the information.


<...snip...>
I need to be able to follow the running task structure of a Linux guest
from outside the virtual machine that hosts the Linux guest. I want to
be able, from a CMS guest with class E privs, discover what Linux is
running and how much resources the processes are taking.
<...snip...>

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Re: Linux performance items

2005-02-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/01/2005 01:16:25
PM:


>
> Just weighing the decisionmoney for Oracle performance tools, vs
> money for Linux performance tools..  If money was no object, I would get
> the VM performance, Linux performance, TCP/IP performance, Oracle
> performance, Websphere performance tools.
>
> But in real life, I will have to rank them.  The bottom ones may get
> cut out.
>


I suggest the VM and Websphere performance tools.  You will need to keep a
tight reign on your Java applications.  They can get out of hand if Java
coding standards are not enforced.

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Re: z/VM commands to Linux guests?

2005-02-01 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 02/01/2005 09:39:51
AM:

> We are writing a REXX exec to run under z/VM to verify the status of our
> Linux guests. The purpose of this script is to provide an easy mechanism
> for our operators to verify the health of the Linux guests. Is there a
> mechanism from z/VM to issue Linux commands to a Linux guest and
capturing
> the output? I know we can go from Linux and issue z/VM commands. Thanks.


We use the secondary console facility.  We logon as root on the virtual
console, issue commands and can see the results. Using WAKEUP or a similar
facility allows this to be automated.

I haven't used PROP, but you may want to look at that.

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Re: Poll Results

2005-01-27 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 01/27/2005 12:44:47
PM:

> So is there just not that many people on the list or not that many
> running linux on 390???
>
> Ralph

Or not that many responded to the survey?

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Samba and Apache Crash System

2005-01-20 Thread Tom Shilson
We are running a RedHat 7-point-something system with Samba and Apache.
When we are loading files via Samba and someone is looking at (changing?)
the same file with Apache, the kernel crashes. I don't have a copy of the
console available at the moment. I can understand there being a problem,
but bringing the system down seems to be a crude way to handle it. The
person who set this up is no longer in our group and seems to think that it
is a fact of life. Current:  Kernel: 2.4.9-17.  Samba: 2.2.8a, Apache:
1.3.22.

1) Is there a way out of this?

2) If I upgrade to SuSE SLES8 am I likely to fix my problem? (Kernel
2.4.21-266-default; Samba 2.2.8a; Apache 1.3.26.)

3) I there any other wisdom that you would like to share?

Thanks,

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Re: Newbie Question

2005-01-20 Thread Tom Shilson
We seem to be settling on SuSE, more for support than any other reason.  If
we choose SuSE and an application we need will only be supported on RedHat,
we will deal with that on a case-by-case basis.

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Tivoli ITM -- Postemsg API Published???

2005-01-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Does anyone know if Tivoli has published their API for ITM (The IBM Tivoli
Monitor component)?  I am considering a non-Tivoli (perhaps home-brew)
replacement for postemsg.

Thanks,

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User Experiences with Tivoli ITM and/or Postemsg on Lin-z

2005-01-14 Thread Tom Shilson
Is anyone using these and, if so, how is it working for you?

We are in the middle of an upgrade to 4.1.1 so our Tivoli folks can't help
us just now.

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Re: Can Linux Console be "Spooled?"

2004-12-30 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi Dennis,

Thanks for all the suggestions.  We do spool our vm consoles.  I will look
at ttssh.  PuTTY has scrollback but I don't know if its size is
customizable.  I will look at ed also.  If I recall some of the commands
are like the old VM EDIT line-mode editor.  (I used to dial in to VM over
1200 baud line with a print-on-paper terminal - many eons ago.)

Thanks again,

tom
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Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 12/30/2004 08:24:47
AM:

> Tom,
>
> Two different things. You spool your console for historical purposes.
> eg. What happened during boot that it didn't mount xyz. All of the
> initialization messages are printed to the console. Also many system
> messages come out there, and if you can't get your linux guest to
> come up and stay up you can't look in syslog!
>
> You still use putty or whatever to connect and do stuff. Although I
> prefer ttssh (TerraTerm Secure SHell extension). And then all of the
> messages are on the screen. Does putty have scroll back capability?
> ttssh does and I have mine set to 10,000 lines. Hopefully that will
> give me time for ctl-C before a runaway fills up the entire buffer!
>
> And you should learn ed. It works on any character mode terminal, like
> 3270 running as CP/CMS console. And it is a lot easier than booting
> another linux guest, getting the correct vol mounted somewhere, etc.
> just so you can use vi or umm ... that other thing that startes with
> an "e". I have found that a lot of things that stop you from booting
> can be fixed in a minute or two with ed.
>
> Good Luck!
> Dennis

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Re: Can Linux Console be "Spooled?"

2004-12-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 12/29/2004 03:13:57
PM:

> Tom,
>
> It sounds as if you are running your linux systems as VM guests.
> If so, just spool the console like any other guest.
>
> I IPL CMS in all my linux guests, run a profile to setup swap
> and other things, and spool the console. Then I ipl the linux
> boot volume.
>
> Otherwise you can use that neat utility and type
> HCP SP CONS START TO MAINT
> at a root prompt.
>
> But, I like the first method because then I get all the
> initialization messages too.
>
> Good Luck!
> Dennis

But vi, and a lot of other things, don't work on the console. Someday I
will build in 3270 console support, but until then I have to use PuTTY.

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Re: Error on startup

2004-12-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 12/29/2004 12:31:39
PM:

> Vm doesn't recognize ctrl-d...

Try "exit".  If that doesn't work, try to umount root (I don't know if you
can at this point) then #CP IPL.

tomS

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Re: Moving root to a new volume

2004-12-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Hi,

Yes, but In my example, I was making the old and new root disks
available to a second system.  In a follow-on note to mine, Mark Post gave
an example of doing it all on one system. I suggest that you look at  his
method first.

 From Mark's Post

Taking the system out of service for such a long period of time can easily
be avoided by:
1. Adding the new disk to the existing system dynamically
2. Doing the same dasdmft, fdasd and mke2fs.
3. Following the HOWTO at http://linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/movefs.html from
steps 3 to 4, but doing the "cd" to /, instead of /usr.
4. chroot to /mnt
5. Update /etc/zipl.conf, but only if any device numbers will change.
6. Run zipl
7. exit the chroot environment
8. Unmount the new file system.
9. Reboot at the time of your choice.

This also eliminates the need to modify all the other parameters in
/etc/zipl.conf to remove the /mnt from the directory paths.


Mark Post

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> For us "non-VM" aware users, can I assume that the command "CP LINK"
causes
> the new root disk to be available -- aka "online", to the original or
> (old/source) system?
<...snip...>

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Can Linux Console be "Spooled?"

2004-12-29 Thread Tom Shilson
As a long-time VMer (the first Rel 3), when I am working on Linux I really
miss having my console spooled, showing all my commands and all my output.
I have tried using tee with the shell, but I haven't been able to make it
work.  Is there any way to do this?

Thanks,

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