Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-30 Thread Steven C Peckham
YES,  I consider it solved ... go ahead and delete it.
I know what needs to be done, but can not really do it (since I do not
control the DNS).
Eventually the request will get done.

Thanks again,
Steven Peckham.




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So, does that mean things are working for you now?  (I usually keep emails
in a thread until it's "solved" and then I delete them.)


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YES, that helps a LOT.
I even understand it, which is even better  :- )

My Thanks To All,
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This was a problem I ran into with my testing.  What Apache does is return
a
"301 temporarily moved" status to the browser, and passes the fully
qualified hostname and path (_with_ the trailing slash added) back to the
browser.  I had to add the fully qualified domain name to my
c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file on my Windows system to get it to
work correctly.  I started with this URL: http://testsystem/test1 and wound
up with this URL being displayed in my browser:
http://testsystem.domainname.com/test1/

If you don't want every user to have to make this change, you will need to
have the FQDN _as_Apache_understands_it_ to be added to DNS.


Mark Post





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> Can you tell me if a DNS is REQUIRED to get the ending "/" to be
> optional?

Given what little I know about how the trailing "/" being option is made
to
happen,  I would say  YES,  DNS is required.

When you omit the trailing slash,
the web server returns a  "redirect".
But it will probably (hopefully) use its own hostname
in that redirect.   The browser then will accept the redirect,
but will have to resolve the hostname it was given.   If it
cannot resolve that hostname,  the redirect will fail.

Does that help?

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Steven
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Hi,

This is a possibility, I suppose, as my hostname nor my fqdn are in any
dns.
Can you tell me if a DNS is REQUIRED to get the ending "/" to be optional?
For testing I've just been using a TCP/IP address.
 http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/test1 where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is our TCP/IP
address for the test Linux
system.
If required, I could create my own DNS on Linux to do this, to use until
our
network folks get around to putting our Linux addresses/names into the
company DNS.

Thanks,
Steven Peckham





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Make sure your hostname is setup correctly.  Most of the trailing slash
problems are due to incorrect fqdn, hostname etc.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/04 12:36 PM >>>
In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very
thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The
format
is # Alias fakename realname # 

#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server
will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated, then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits
the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/ic

Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-30 Thread Post, Mark K
So, does that mean things are working for you now?  (I usually keep emails
in a thread until it's "solved" and then I delete them.)


Mark Post

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YES, that helps a LOT.
I even understand it, which is even better  :- )

My Thanks To All,
Steven Peckham





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This was a problem I ran into with my testing.  What Apache does is return a
"301 temporarily moved" status to the browser, and passes the fully
qualified hostname and path (_with_ the trailing slash added) back to the
browser.  I had to add the fully qualified domain name to my
c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file on my Windows system to get it to
work correctly.  I started with this URL: http://testsystem/test1 and wound
up with this URL being displayed in my browser:
http://testsystem.domainname.com/test1/

If you don't want every user to have to make this change, you will need to
have the FQDN _as_Apache_understands_it_ to be added to DNS.


Mark Post





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> Can you tell me if a DNS is REQUIRED to get the ending "/" to be
> optional?

Given what little I know about how the trailing "/" being option is made to
happen,  I would say  YES,  DNS is required.

When you omit the trailing slash,
the web server returns a  "redirect".
But it will probably (hopefully) use its own hostname
in that redirect.   The browser then will accept the redirect,
but will have to resolve the hostname it was given.   If it
cannot resolve that hostname,  the redirect will fail.

Does that help?

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Apache setup question


Hi,

This is a possibility, I suppose, as my hostname nor my fqdn are in any dns.
Can you tell me if a DNS is REQUIRED to get the ending "/" to be optional?
For testing I've just been using a TCP/IP address.
 http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/test1 where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is our TCP/IP
address for the test Linux
system.
If required, I could create my own DNS on Linux to do this, to use until our
network folks get around to putting our Linux addresses/names into the
company DNS.

Thanks,
Steven Peckham





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Make sure your hostname is setup correctly.  Most of the trailing slash
problems are due to incorrect fqdn, hostname etc.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/04 12:36 PM >>>
In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very
thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The format
is # Alias fakename realname # 

#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated, then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/icons"

and it worked for me, using Apache 1.3.31.


Mark Post

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C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:07 PM
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Subject: Apache setup question


Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26). I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17) up
(Debian GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)  and am serving web pages wit

Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-27 Thread Post, Mark K
Except that the sample you show doesn't conform to the requirements.  You
said that you have this:
Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

when what you would need to have is this:
Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest
or perhaps this
Alias /test1 "/usr/mywebtest"


Mark Post

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Hi,

My httpd.conf file has the comments too ... but it does not work. I expected
that I had done something wrong,  instead it seems that I need to upgrade
the apache software.

My thanks to all that responded,
Steven.





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In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very
thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The format
is # Alias fakename realname # 

#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated, then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/icons"

and it worked for me, using Apache 1.3.31.


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache setup question


Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26). I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17) up
(Debian GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)  and am serving web pages with apache (1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out. I want the user to
be able to come in with

tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added). Is there any way to do this, and if so how?

In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ), but that seemed to make the base directory for
all other pages, images, ...  the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest like I
wanted it to be).

Thanks,
Steven.


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Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-27 Thread Steven C Peckham
Hi,

My httpd.conf file has the comments too ... but it does not work.
I expected that I had done something wrong,
 instead it seems that I need to upgrade the apache software.

My thanks to all that responded,
Steven.





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In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very
thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The
format
is
# Alias fakename realname
#


#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server
will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated, then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits
the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/icons"

and it worked for me, using Apache 1.3.31.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steven
C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache setup question


Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26). I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17)
up
(Debian GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)  and am serving web pages with apache (1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out. I want the user
to
be able to come in with

tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added). Is there any way to do this, and if so how?

In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ), but that seemed to make the base directory
for
all other pages, images, ...  the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest like
I
wanted it to be).

Thanks,
Steven.


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Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-27 Thread Doug Griswold
Make sure your hostname is setup correctly.  Most of the trailing slash
problems are due to incorrect fqdn, hostname etc.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/04 12:36 PM >>>
In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very
thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The
format
is
# Alias fakename realname
#


#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server
will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated,
then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits
the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/icons"

and it worked for me, using Apache 1.3.31.


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steven
C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache setup question


Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26). I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17)
up
(Debian GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)  and am serving web pages with apache
(1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out. I want the user
to
be able to come in with

tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added). Is there any way to do this, and if so how?

In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ), but that seemed to make the base directory
for
all other pages, images, ...  the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest
like I
wanted it to be).

Thanks,
Steven.


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Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-27 Thread Post, Mark K
In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, there are comments about this very thing:
#
# Aliases: Add here as many aliases as you need (with no limit). The format
is
# Alias fakename realname
#


#
# Note that if you include a trailing / on fakename then the server will
# require it to be present in the URL.  So "/icons" isn't aliased in
this
# example, only "/icons/".  If the fakename is slash-terminated, then
the
# realname must also be slash terminated, and if the fakename omits the
# trailing slash, the realname must also omit it.
#
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"


Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all



I just ran a test by changing
Alias /icons/ "/var/www/icons/"
to
Alias /icons "/var/www/icons"

and it worked for me, using Apache 1.3.31.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
C Peckham
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache setup question


Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26). I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17) up
(Debian GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)  and am serving web pages with apache (1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out. I want the user to
be able to come in with

tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added). Is there any way to do this, and if so how?

In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ), but that seemed to make the base directory for
all other pages, images, ...  the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest like I
wanted it to be).

Thanks,
Steven.


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Re: Apache setup question

2004-08-23 Thread Andy Engels
You should be able to do that in version 2 of Apache, which you should
really try to get installed.  I think levels beyond 2.0.43 or something
have some security fixes as well as this multi-directory feature.  I'm not
sure that it worked very well on version 1.  I have 2.0.49 installed.
At 05:06 PM 8/23/2004, you wrote:
Hi,
I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26).
I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17) up (Debian
GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)
 and am serving web pages with apache (1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out.
I want the user to be able to come in with
tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added).
Is there any way to do this, and if so how?
In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all

The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ),
but that seemed to make the base directory for all other pages, images,
...
 the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest like I wanted it to be).
Thanks,
Steven.
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Apache setup question

2004-08-23 Thread Steven C Peckham
Hi,

I have been asked to set up a web server for a Linux partition S390
(9672-R26).
I'm a newbie to Linux (and networking). I got Linux (2.4.17) up (Debian
GNU/Linux 3.0rev2)
 and am serving web pages with apache (1.3.26),
but I've a irritation that I can not seem to figure out.
I want the user to be able to come in with

tcpipName-or-address/test1
Please note the lack of / at the end (it works fine if the final / is
added).
Is there any way to do this, and if so how?

In httpd.conf I've got

   DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm default.htm

Alias /test1 /usr/mywebtest/

 Options Indexes MultiViews
 AllowOverride None
 Order allow,deny
 Allow from all


The first page is in /usr/mywebtest/default.htm
I've tried an alias pointing directly to that (Alias /test1
/usr/mywebtest/default.htm ),
but that seemed to make the base directory for all other pages, images,
...
 the root directory (not /usr/mywebtest like I wanted it to be).

Thanks,
Steven.


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