Re: Convert filesystems now or wait for SLES1x?

2011-02-23 Thread David Boyes
> Up til now we've used Reiser and would convert to ext3 as part of the
> rebuilds.  But, should we leave all of this until the next upgrade?

If you're using Reiser, then it's time to change course. Do it in two steps: 
reiser=>ext3, SLES10=> SLES11. That way you have stable code in both steps. 

> Will the next recommendation be btrfs or ext4?  Will they still be too
> "new" to bet the house on?

I don't recommend either yet. Btrfs isn't ZFS yet and there's no significant 
advantage or track record for ext4 yet. 

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Re: Convert filesystems now or wait for SLES1x?

2011-02-22 Thread Leland Lucius

On 2/22/11 12:54 AM, Mark Post wrote:

On 2/22/2011 at 01:42 AM, Leland Lucius  wrote:

Up til now we've used Reiser and would convert to ext3 as part of the
rebuilds.  But, should we leave all of this until the next upgrade?
Will the next recommendation be btrfs or ext4?  Will they still be too
"new" to bet the house on?


I would wait until a system gets replaced or upgraded.  I doubt very much that 
ext4 will ever be a SUSE Linux standard.  btrfs might be, but not in the short 
term, and certainly not for SLES11.  SLES12 would be the earliest, if at all.



Then we shall just stick with ext3.

Thanks,

Leland

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Re: Convert filesystems now or wait for SLES1x?

2011-02-21 Thread Shane
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:54:53 -0700
Mark Post  wrote:

> >>> On 2/22/2011 at 01:42 AM, Leland Lucius 
> >>> wrote:
> > Up til now we've used Reiser and would convert to ext3 as part of
> > the rebuilds.  But, should we leave all of this until the next
> > upgrade? Will the next recommendation be btrfs or ext4?  Will they
> > still be too "new" to bet the house on?
>
> I would wait until a system gets replaced or upgraded.  I doubt very
> much that ext4 will ever be a SUSE Linux standard.  btrfs might be,
> but not in the short term, and certainly not for SLES11.  SLES12
> would be the earliest, if at all.

Interesting - ext4 has been stable for quite a while now. Whilst even
Ted (the maintainer) describes it as an interim step on the road to
btrfs, I must admit to being surprised SLES11 didn't run with it as the
default f/s.

btrfs has some beaut features (especially if you have to shout down
Solaris/ZFS bigots), but it ain't ready for prod yet.
Close tho' ...

Shane ...

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Re: Convert filesystems now or wait for SLES1x?

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 2/22/2011 at 01:42 AM, Leland Lucius  wrote: 
> Up til now we've used Reiser and would convert to ext3 as part of the
> rebuilds.  But, should we leave all of this until the next upgrade?
> Will the next recommendation be btrfs or ext4?  Will they still be too
> "new" to bet the house on?

I would wait until a system gets replaced or upgraded.  I doubt very much that 
ext4 will ever be a SUSE Linux standard.  btrfs might be, but not in the short 
term, and certainly not for SLES11.  SLES12 would be the earliest, if at all.


Mark Post

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Convert filesystems now or wait for SLES1x?

2011-02-21 Thread Leland Lucius

We're going to be upgrading to SLES11 and we have the desire to
standardize all of our file systems layouts.  We did start out with a
standard, but that has evolved over the years and it's now pretty
stable, so we figure we might as well take the opportunity...

Up til now we've used Reiser and would convert to ext3 as part of the
rebuilds.  But, should we leave all of this until the next upgrade?
Will the next recommendation be btrfs or ext4?  Will they still be too
"new" to bet the house on?

Leland

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