Duplicate rpm packages s390 - s390x, can one of them be removed?

2011-09-20 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
We have several Red Hat servers that were set up by our Unix group when
we started into the zLinux world. All these servers are running in 64
bit architecture. As I am getting to know they systems better, I did a
search on the packages we have installed and found about 71 packages
that have both a s390 (32 bit) and s390x (64 bit) versions installed. Is
there any reason to have both architectures install for the same
package? We just did a basic install of RHEL on one of our test systems,
and when I searched that platform, we had no 32 bit packages (great!). 

 

Has anyone had similar experience or have any recommendations. I am
considering removing all the 32 bit packages from the system, but want
to insure that it has no impact on the system. Is there any need for a
64 bit application to have access to it's 32 bit conterpart?

 

James Chaplin

Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux


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Re: Duplicate rpm packages s390 - s390x, can one of them be removed?

2011-09-20 Thread Richard Troth
Check the contents of each package.
If the package supplies libraries, then DO NOT remove them because
other things may depend on them.
If the package supplies commands, you may have difficulty removing.
(But re-install of preferred arch may suffice.)

In the case of libraries, it is normal to have both architectures
installed.  Desirable even.  So ... again ... check what is supplied,
and if they are libs, don't sweat it.

-- R;   
Rick Troth
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:01, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote:
 We have several Red Hat servers that were set up by our Unix group when
 we started into the zLinux world. All these servers are running in 64
 bit architecture. As I am getting to know they systems better, I did a
 search on the packages we have installed and found about 71 packages
 that have both a s390 (32 bit) and s390x (64 bit) versions installed. Is
 there any reason to have both architectures install for the same
 package? We just did a basic install of RHEL on one of our test systems,
 and when I searched that platform, we had no 32 bit packages (great!).



 Has anyone had similar experience or have any recommendations. I am
 considering removing all the 32 bit packages from the system, but want
 to insure that it has no impact on the system. Is there any need for a
 64 bit application to have access to it's 32 bit conterpart?



 James Chaplin

 Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux


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Re: Duplicate rpm packages s390 - s390x, can one of them be removed?

2011-09-20 Thread R P Herrold

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Richard Troth wrote:


In the case of libraries, it is normal to have both architectures
installed.  Desirable even.  So ... again ... check what is supplied,
and if they are libs, don't sweat it.


Not sure about 'Desirable' actually.  If a file is not needed,
or useful, it has no business clogging up a filesystem and
dynamic linker search path (slowing the machine carrying
around the non-used parasite)

I have removed the non s390x 'multi-lib' packages, under the
guidance of rpm, which 'knows' from its use of ldd, and other
tools, which are 'safe' to remove, with no ill effects

-- Russ herrold

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Re: Duplicate rpm packages s390 - s390x, can one of them be removed?

2011-09-20 Thread Richard Troth
Good point, Russ, but presumes that legitimate executables will only
be under the purview of RPM.  That may be the preferred policy, but is
not universal.  (And questionable if it really agrees with Unix
philosophy, but we're drifting into theory ... history ... opinion.)
So if a (legitimate) program requiring 32-bit support suddenly appears
(outside registration with the Department of Homeland RPMs) what will
it do since you have removed the 32-bit libs??

Clean is good.  (get rid of unused libraries)  Inventory is good.
(track it all with RPM ... or something!)  I'm only saying that YMMV.

-- R;   
Rick Troth
Velocity Software
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:14, R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Richard Troth wrote:

 In the case of libraries, it is normal to have both architectures
 installed.  Desirable even.  So ... again ... check what is supplied,
 and if they are libs, don't sweat it.

 Not sure about 'Desirable' actually.  If a file is not needed,
 or useful, it has no business clogging up a filesystem and
 dynamic linker search path (slowing the machine carrying
 around the non-used parasite)

 I have removed the non s390x 'multi-lib' packages, under the
 guidance of rpm, which 'knows' from its use of ldd, and other
 tools, which are 'safe' to remove, with no ill effects

 -- Russ herrold

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