Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/14/2008 at 05:43 EST, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This was the problem the OP was having.  Since the LPAR was defined as
being an
> "MVS LPAR" (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in the
LPAR?), HCD
> would not allow him to configure the FCP I/O devices onto the LPAR.  He
had to
> either create a new LPAR definition, saying it was a "VM LPAR" or delete
and
> redefine the existing one.

PR/SM doesn't care.  IOCP doesn't care.  HCD cares, wanting to ensure that
you create a valid IODF for z/OS.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
> (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in the LPAR?)

So it can know which one the IFLs can be given to?
It was probably not using IFLs either since it was defined as MVS.
I've been told also that you get a little penguin picture there
somewhere too.  Course I haven't actually seen it since no one lets me
near an HMC.

Marcy Cortes 

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:41 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  5:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
-snip-
>> Define "attached" in this context.
> 
> "Configured" is the term of art.  As long as the chpids, CUs, and 
> devices are configured to the VM LPAR (via IOCDS, HCD, or dynamic 
> DEFINE), then CP
> (EDEVICE) and Linux (ATTACH or DEDICATE) can talk to the FCP adapters.

This was the problem the OP was having.  Since the LPAR was defined as
being an "MVS LPAR" (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in
the LPAR?), HCD would not allow him to configure the FCP I/O devices
onto the LPAR.  He had to either create a new LPAR definition, saying it
was a "VM LPAR" or delete and redefine the existing one.

> The above is necessary, but typically not sufficient.  Additional 
> configuration of your SAN fabric is usually required to give Linux 
> and/or CP access to the target WWPNs & LUNs.

Sure, but you have to get past the first hurdle before you can even try
to deal with these items.


Mark Post

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  5:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan
Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
-snip-
>> Define "attached" in this context.
> 
> "Configured" is the term of art.  As long as the chpids, CUs, and devices
> are configured to the VM LPAR (via IOCDS, HCD, or dynamic DEFINE), then CP
> (EDEVICE) and Linux (ATTACH or DEDICATE) can talk to the FCP adapters.

This was the problem the OP was having.  Since the LPAR was defined as being an 
"MVS LPAR" (BTW, why should PR/SM care what OS is to be run in the LPAR?), HCD 
would not allow him to configure the FCP I/O devices onto the LPAR.  He had to 
either create a new LPAR definition, saying it was a "VM LPAR" or delete and 
redefine the existing one.

> The above is necessary, but typically not sufficient.  Additional
> configuration of your SAN fabric is usually required to give Linux and/or
> CP access to the target WWPNs & LUNs.

Sure, but you have to get past the first hurdle before you can even try to deal 
with these items.


Mark Post

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Sam Bass
HI guys,
 
I figured it out.
There are two sections in the IODF, an LPARNAME and a CONFIG-ID
For sanity I had the LPARNAMES and the CONFIG-ID the same.
 
The CONFIG-ID is for z/OS and I think VM.  It has no meaning in Linux.
The CONFIG-ID is defined in option 1.
In OPTION 5 you can associate Devices to a CONFIG-ID so you can select which 
Devices go to what z/OS (via the IPLPARM(LOAD**)
 
All you need for Linux in the IODF is options 3,4,5 and no need to connect the 
devices to a CONFIG-ID.
 


Sam Bass
254-771-7212
Sr z/OS Systems Specialist

 -Original Message-
From:   Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Mark Post
Sent:   Monday, January 14, 2008 3:38 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject:Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  4:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert J
Brenneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Both Linux and VM can talk directly to the channels so you don't have to
> define anything for Linux or VM in HCD OS config. As long as the channels,
> CU & devices are attached to the lpar Linux & VM can use them.

Define "attached" in this context.


Mark Post

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/14/2008 at 04:46 EST, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  4:11 PM, in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert J
> Brenneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Both Linux and VM can talk directly to the channels so you don't have
to
> > define anything for Linux or VM in HCD OS config. As long as the
channels,
> > CU & devices are attached to the lpar Linux & VM can use them.
>
> Define "attached" in this context.

"Configured" is the term of art.  As long as the chpids, CUs, and devices
are configured to the VM LPAR (via IOCDS, HCD, or dynamic DEFINE), then CP
(EDEVICE) and Linux (ATTACH or DEDICATE) can talk to the FCP adapters.

The above is necessary, but typically not sufficient.  Additional
configuration of your SAN fabric is usually required to give Linux and/or
CP access to the target WWPNs & LUNs.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at  4:11 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert J
Brenneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Both Linux and VM can talk directly to the channels so you don't have to
> define anything for Linux or VM in HCD OS config. As long as the channels,
> CU & devices are attached to the lpar Linux & VM can use them.

Define "attached" in this context.


Mark Post

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Re: IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-14 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Both Linux and VM can talk directly to the channels so you don't have to
define anything for Linux or VM in HCD OS config. As long as the channels,
CU & devices are attached to the lpar Linux & VM can use them.


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IODF-HCD Defining FCP on a z9 for z/Linux

2008-01-11 Thread Sam Bass
I am trying to define FCP Channel, Controller and Unit so z/Linux native can 
use it.

The LPAR that we are using for z/Linux is defined as MVS.
HCD does not allow me to attach FCP units to an MVS LPAR.

If I define a new LPAR as VM and it allows me to attach it.

In order for z/Linux native to use FCP does the LPAR OS TYPE have to be defined 
as VM so I can attach the FCP Units to it or does z/Linux talk directly to the 
FCP channels?



Sam Bass
254-771-7212
Sr z/OS Systems Specialist

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