Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread Jones, Russell
The df command shows the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
   6676408   1430704   4906556  23% /
/dev/dasda1  99168 14560 79492  16% /boot
none 61260 0 61260   0% /dev/shm

The following are present in the /dev directory:

brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  0 Jan 16 11:37 dasda
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  1 Jan 16 11:37 dasda1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  2 Jan 16 11:37 dasda2
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  4 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  5 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  6 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb2

dasdb1 in the only one that I can get to mount. When I try to mount
dasdb2 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

When I try to specify type ext3 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C -t ext3
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dasdb2,
   or too many mounted file systems

Does Centos/RedHat Enterprise 4 use a different filesytem type, and if
so, how do I find out what it is?
Also, I am curious why df shows the root file system at
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00.

Thanks for your patience with me,

Russ Jones



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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Post, Mark K
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

Whatever the partition number on the source volume, will be the
partition number on the target volume.  So, if your root partition is
/dev/dasda2 on the source, then in your case the root partition will be
/dev/dasdb2 on the system where you are modifying it.  If it was
/dev/dasda3, then use /dev/dasdb3.


Mark Post

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:01 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

I have been working through the HowTo on Cloning Red Hat Linux. I copied
my Linux dasd volume using MVS. I brought the new volume online, and it
showed up as dasdb. When I mount /dev/dasdb1, I seems to be mounting the
boot partition and not the root file system. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Russ Jones

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread RPN01
Could the /dev/dasdb2 filesystem have been an LVM volume group?

/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 would be the type of things you might see
for LVM volumes.

My system shows the following in df (truncated because I love loop-back
mounts...)

rockhopper:~ # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/system-rockhopper
   8589044   7863536725508  92% /
tmpfs   405156 4405152   1% /dev/shm
/dev/dasda1  86380 14756 67168  19% /boot
/dev/mapper/vg_iso-lv_media
  27355500  25573528   1504100  95% /iso
/dev/mapper/vg_local-lv_ibmitm
   6713132220156   6492976   4% /opt/IBM/ITM

/dev/dasda1 is my /boot, and everything else are LVM volumes.

Try the command pvdisplay /dev/dasdb2 to see if it is a physical volume
that was part of a volume group. If it was, then possibly try vgscan to
see if it finds /dev/dasdb2 as part of a volume group. The big problem might
come if the volume group has the same name as the one on the system you've
attached it to
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 From: Jones, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:39:47 -0600
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Conversation: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR
 Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

 The df command shows the following:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# df
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
 /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
6676408   1430704   4906556  23% /
 /dev/dasda1  99168 14560 79492  16% /boot
 none 61260 0 61260   0% /dev/shm

 The following are present in the /dev directory:

 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  0 Jan 16 11:37 dasda
 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  1 Jan 16 11:37 dasda1
 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  2 Jan 16 11:37 dasda2
 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  4 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb
 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  5 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb1
 brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  6 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb2

 dasdb1 in the only one that I can get to mount. When I try to mount
 dasdb2 I get:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C
 mount: you must specify the filesystem type

 When I try to specify type ext3 I get:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C -t ext3
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dasdb2,
or too many mounted file systems

 Does Centos/RedHat Enterprise 4 use a different filesytem type, and if
 so, how do I find out what it is?
 Also, I am curious why df shows the root file system at
 /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00.

 Thanks for your patience with me,

 Russ Jones



 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Post, Mark K
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:17 PM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

 Whatever the partition number on the source volume, will be the
 partition number on the target volume.  So, if your root partition is
 /dev/dasda2 on the source, then in your case the root partition will be
 /dev/dasdb2 on the system where you are modifying it.  If it was
 /dev/dasda3, then use /dev/dasdb3.


 Mark Post

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Jones, Russell
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:01 PM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

 I have been working through the HowTo on Cloning Red Hat Linux. I copied
 my Linux dasd volume using MVS. I brought the new volume online, and it
 showed up as dasdb. When I mount /dev/dasdb1, I seems to be mounting the
 boot partition and not the root file system. Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Russ Jones

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread Post, Mark K
That's Red Hat putting the root file system on an LVM logical volume.
Ugh.  I hate when that is done.

You might have a shot at getting something to mount if you do this for
starters:
pvscan
vgscan
lvscan

If LVM finds the logical volume, and there aren't any conflicts, it
might create a device node for it.  You should then be able to mount the
resulting logical volume.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jones, Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:40 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

The df command shows the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
   6676408   1430704   4906556  23% /
/dev/dasda1  99168 14560 79492  16% /boot
none 61260 0 61260   0% /dev/shm

The following are present in the /dev directory:

brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  0 Jan 16 11:37 dasda
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  1 Jan 16 11:37 dasda1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  2 Jan 16 11:37 dasda2
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  4 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  5 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  6 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb2

dasdb1 in the only one that I can get to mount. When I try to mount
dasdb2 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

When I try to specify type ext3 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C -t ext3
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dasdb2,
   or too many mounted file systems

Does Centos/RedHat Enterprise 4 use a different filesytem type, and if
so, how do I find out what it is?
Also, I am curious why df shows the root file system at
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00.

Thanks for your patience with me,

Russ Jones

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread Jones, Russell
Results from the scan commands:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pvscan
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  PV /dev/dasdb2   VG VolGroup00   lvm2 [6.75 GB / 32.00 MB free]
  Total: 1 [6.75 GB] / in use: 1 [6.75 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0   ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# vgscan
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  Found volume group VolGroup00 using metadata type lvm2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# lvscan
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00' [6.47 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01' [256.00 MB] inherit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pvdisplay /dev/dasdb2
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasda2
not /dev/dasdb2
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/dasdb2
  VG Name   VolGroup00
  PV Size   6.75 GB / not usable 0
  Allocatable   yes
  PE Size (KByte)   32768
  Total PE  216
  Free PE   1
  Allocated PE  215
  PV UUID   16aDZn-p0Dy-R9MA-fGCR-kPM8-RSMB-I49PDY

Looks like the volume groups have the same name. Is there any way around
that?

Russ Jones

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Post, Mark K
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:56 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

That's Red Hat putting the root file system on an LVM logical volume.
Ugh.  I hate when that is done.

You might have a shot at getting something to mount if you do this for
starters:
pvscan
vgscan
lvscan

If LVM finds the logical volume, and there aren't any conflicts, it
might create a device node for it.  You should then be able to mount the
resulting logical volume.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jones, Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:40 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

The df command shows the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
   6676408   1430704   4906556  23% /
/dev/dasda1  99168 14560 79492  16% /boot
none 61260 0 61260   0% /dev/shm

The following are present in the /dev directory:

brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  0 Jan 16 11:37 dasda
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  1 Jan 16 11:37 dasda1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  2 Jan 16 11:37 dasda2
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  4 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  5 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb1
brw-rw  1 root disk  94,  6 Jan 16 11:43 dasdb2

dasdb1 in the only one that I can get to mount. When I try to mount
dasdb2 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

When I try to specify type ext3 I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# mount /dev/dasdb2 /mnt/322C -t ext3
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/dasdb2,
   or too many mounted file systems

Does Centos/RedHat Enterprise 4 use a different filesytem type, and if
so, how do I find out what it is?
Also, I am curious why df shows the root file system at
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00.

Thanks for your patience with me,

Russ Jones

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread Post, Mark K
So, it looks like you copied the disk from aplnx02 itself, and now
you're trying to mount the copy on aplnx02.  That's probably not going
to work particularly well.  The problem isn't the volume group name so
much as the UUID that gets written to the physical volume (PV) during
the pvcreate.

Trying to get around this could get rather complex.  If you're up for
that, email me off-list, and I'll try to work through it with you.  Once
we get things working (or give up), we can post what happened back to
the list.


Mark Post

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jones, Russell
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:29 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

Results from the scan commands:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pvscan
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  PV /dev/dasdb2   VG VolGroup00   lvm2 [6.75 GB / 32.00 MB free]
  Total: 1 [6.75 GB] / in use: 1 [6.75 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0   ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# vgscan
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  Found volume group VolGroup00 using metadata type lvm2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# lvscan
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00' [6.47 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01' [256.00 MB] inherit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pvdisplay /dev/dasdb2
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasda2
not /dev/dasdb2
  Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
not /dev/dasda2
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/dasdb2
  VG Name   VolGroup00
  PV Size   6.75 GB / not usable 0
  Allocatable   yes
  PE Size (KByte)   32768
  Total PE  216
  Free PE   1
  Allocated PE  215
  PV UUID   16aDZn-p0Dy-R9MA-fGCR-kPM8-RSMB-I49PDY

Looks like the volume groups have the same name. Is there any way around
that?

Russ Jones

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-17 Thread RPN01
Two possible options, as far as I can tell:

vgrename will let you change the name of a volume group... But you might
have to change the name of the volume group on your running system; I'm not
sure it would let you change the one on the unmounted pack.

vgsplit will let you split off some of the physical volumnes in a volume
group. You might be able to split the only volume into a different volume
group name.

I noticed that the pv identifiers for /dasda2 and /dasdb2 are identical. Was
dasdb a copy of dasda? Having these pv identifiers being equal may be an
issue that would keep you from getting them both up on the same running
system. LVM identifies the physical volumes by these identifiers, so when
the system comes up with both these disks available, LVM would not be able
to identify the pv that truly should be part of the running system¹s volume
group. Using ³vgexport² and then ³vgimport² on the volume might help
matters, but I¹m not sure as I haven¹t really been there

Of course, as with all such experiements, be sure to have a good backup of
/dev/dasdb (and /dev/dasda, for that matter) before attempting any sort of
recovery, as you cannot be sure if any such attempt might prove to be
destructive

Have you thought about trying to bring up dasdb by itself in the LPAR, or in
a separate LPAR? It might come up to a point where you could work with the
data.
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 From: Jones, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:28:45 -0600
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Conversation: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR
 Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR
 
 Results from the scan commands:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]# pvdisplay /dev/dasdb2
   Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasda2
 not /dev/dasdb2
   Found duplicate PV 16aDZnp0DyR9MAfGCRkPM8RSMBI49PDY: using /dev/dasdb2
 not /dev/dasda2
   --- Physical volume ---
   PV Name   /dev/dasdb2
   VG Name   VolGroup00
   PV Size   6.75 GB / not usable 0
   Allocatable   yes
   PE Size (KByte)   32768
   Total PE  216
   Free PE   1
   Allocated PE  215
   PV UUID   16aDZn-p0Dy-R9MA-fGCR-kPM8-RSMB-I49PDY
 
 Looks like the volume groups have the same name. Is there any way around
 that?


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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-16 Thread Jones, Russell
I have been working through the HowTo on Cloning Red Hat Linux. I copied
my Linux dasd volume using MVS. I brought the new volume online, and it
showed up as dasdb. When I mount /dev/dasdb1, I seems to be mounting the
boot partition and not the root file system. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Russ Jones

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Post, Mark K
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:21 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

A new HOWTO has been added to the web site: Cloning Red Hat Linux
Running in an LPAR.  A couple of people had expressed interest in seeing
Mike's original document, so I made myself take the time over the
weekend to get it formatted.

Thanks to Mike Nettles, for documenting his methods for the rest of us.

http://linuxvm.org/info/HOWTOs/


Mark Post

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Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

2007-01-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Whatever the partition number on the source volume, will be the
partition number on the target volume.  So, if your root partition is
/dev/dasda2 on the source, then in your case the root partition will be
/dev/dasdb2 on the system where you are modifying it.  If it was
/dev/dasda3, then use /dev/dasdb3.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jones, Russell
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:01 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: New HOWTO: Cloning Red Hat Linux Running in an LPAR

I have been working through the HowTo on Cloning Red Hat Linux. I copied
my Linux dasd volume using MVS. I brought the new volume online, and it
showed up as dasdb. When I mount /dev/dasdb1, I seems to be mounting the
boot partition and not the root file system. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Russ Jones

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