Re: New User Linux on z10 question
> While 12 LPARs can share one IFL they cannot share any memory. Each LPAR must have its own dedicated memory. That's the main reason to run z/VM, to share memory. When > I asked why Xen did not support System z, I was told that they didn't see any point in competing with z/VM. Xen is architecture dependend code all the way through. I know it also runs on Power, but the only commonality between Power and x86 is probably the printk routine... with kind regards Carsten Otte IBM Linux Technology Center / Boeblingen lab -- omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
> How do you spell "Least expensive path"? People: (N * (salary + 33% avg benefits, repeating for the life of the job)) increasing over the increase in workload on top of hardware costs. ZVM: (proportional to workload increase), can be planned in advance with justification, relatively static personnel costs. Do the math. z/VM almost always comes out cheaper. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
How do you spell "Least expensive path"? Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:13 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New User Linux on z10 question > Yes you can have 12 LPARs sharing a single IFL. Whether it works very > well > is an "It Depends". Well put. I'd pose it as: With VM: can be handled by part of one person, part time dynamically with rare purchases of real resources. Changes are seldom disruptive. Without VM: requires intervention of software *and* hardware team and purchase of real resources for every increase in workload. Which do they want to do? Somehow they always pick "with VM". 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
> Yes you can have 12 LPARs sharing a single IFL. Whether it works very > well > is an "It Depends". Well put. I'd pose it as: With VM: can be handled by part of one person, part time dynamically with rare purchases of real resources. Changes are seldom disruptive. Without VM: requires intervention of software *and* hardware team and purchase of real resources for every increase in workload. Which do they want to do? Somehow they always pick "with VM". 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:14 PM, David Stuart wrote: > Another point about PR/SM: > > The more LPARs you have, the higher the PR/SM 'overhead'. Which will affect > all your LPARs, not just the Linux ones. Not as if I were fighting on the wrong side of this, but I would expect that most of the PR/SM overhead comes out of you own pocket (ie gets dispatched on IFL again). But then, who cares about overhead when you can't measure usage anyway :-) Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
Another point about PR/SM: The more LPARs you have, the higher the PR/SM 'overhead'. Which will affect all your LPARs, not just the Linux ones. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 david.stu...@ventura.org>>> "Rob van der Heij" 4/6/2011 11:02 AM >>> 2011/4/6 Przemyslaw Kupisz : > Limit for z10 is 60 LPARs, so why just only 12 Linux images on 1 IFL? > IMHO you can run 60 Linux images on 1 IFL. This kind things happens when they deliver glossy brochures to people living under a rock...:-) For z/OS a popular LPAR configuration rule seems to be that you don't want to assign logical CPUs and weight such that the LPAR has less than 10% of the CPU. Maybe they transposed that rule freely. Or maybe the customer had 5 IFLs and someone concluded that you thus can run 12 images per IFL. One of the interesting side-effects of the 60 LPAR thing that I see is peole running z/OS test systems on z/VM. They started to create more z/OS images because they could, and found out it is almost impossible to manage with the restrictions that PR/SM has. So once they were spoiled by having many z/OS images, they were ready to go beyond that point and take advantage of z/VM. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
2011/4/6 Przemyslaw Kupisz : > Limit for z10 is 60 LPARs, so why just only 12 Linux images on 1 IFL? > IMHO you can run 60 Linux images on 1 IFL. This kind things happens when they deliver glossy brochures to people living under a rock...:-) For z/OS a popular LPAR configuration rule seems to be that you don't want to assign logical CPUs and weight such that the LPAR has less than 10% of the CPU. Maybe they transposed that rule freely. Or maybe the customer had 5 IFLs and someone concluded that you thus can run 12 images per IFL. One of the interesting side-effects of the 60 LPAR thing that I see is peole running z/OS test systems on z/VM. They started to create more z/OS images because they could, and found out it is almost impossible to manage with the restrictions that PR/SM has. So once they were spoiled by having many z/OS images, they were ready to go beyond that point and take advantage of z/VM. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
Limit for z10 is 60 LPARs, so why just only 12 Linux images on 1 IFL? IMHO you can run 60 Linux images on 1 IFL. -- Przemyslaw Kupisz http://www.linkedin.com/in/pkupisz W dniu 06.04.2011 17:44, Alan Ackerman pisze: > While 12 LPARs can share one IFL they cannot share any memory. Each LPAR must > have its own dedicated memory. That's the main reason to run z/VM, to share > memory. When I asked why Xen did not support System z, I was told that they > didn't see any point in competing with z/VM. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:57, Carsten Otte wrote: > >>> Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL >>> without the use of z/VM. >> >>> Is this true and how? >> >> One thing you could do is define 12 logical partitions (LPAR). You can >> define them IFL only, with shared >> engines. Not that I'm advising to do so >> >> with kind regards >> Carsten Otte >> IBM Linux Technology Center / Boeblingen lab >> -- >> omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum >> habetur, quomodo habenda est >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
My guess is that management does not understand that. Patrick Carroll | Technology Architect II L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | pcarr...@llbean.com | 207.552.2426 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. The information is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or other use of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New User Linux on z10 question >>> On 4/6/2011 at 10:03 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: > oops - forgot about Xen.. which I believe can also virtualize? I know > very little about it on z... so should probably not have said 'the > only way' ;-) Xen won't even compile on System z, let alone run. KVM is the other option for System z. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
While 12 LPARs can share one IFL they cannot share any memory. Each LPAR must have its own dedicated memory. That's the main reason to run z/VM, to share memory. When I asked why Xen did not support System z, I was told that they didn't see any point in competing with z/VM. Sent from my iPod On Apr 6, 2011, at 15:57, Carsten Otte wrote: >> Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL >> without the use of z/VM. > >> Is this true and how? > > One thing you could do is define 12 logical partitions (LPAR). You can > define them IFL only, with shared > engines. Not that I'm advising to do so > > with kind regards > Carsten Otte > IBM Linux Technology Center / Boeblingen lab > -- > omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum > habetur, quomodo habenda est > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
> Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > Is this true and how? One thing you could do is define 12 logical partitions (LPAR). You can define them IFL only, with shared engines. Not that I'm advising to do so with kind regards Carsten Otte IBM Linux Technology Center / Boeblingen lab -- omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
>>> On 4/6/2011 at 09:44 AM, Billy Bingham >>> wrote: > You may be able to run 12 LPARs on a single IFL, > but you can only run one instance of an OS on a > LPAR without VM. Well, there is KVM. Carsten Otte has spent a lot of time making that work on System z. I don't know that anyone supports that for production use. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
>>> On 4/6/2011 at 10:13 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > Maybe KVM can run 12 images on an IFL *doing something useful* and > maybe it can't. Dunno... I have no doubt that it can, but since it's not supported, even by IBM, I wouldn't want to do it. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
I love it when management gets involved in technical architecture. It may work if you share the IFL amongst 12 LPARs. How well it will work depends on the workload. Maybe they're talking about Zen? Patrick Carroll | Technology Architect II L.L.Bean, Inc.(r) | Double L St. | Freeport ME 04033 http://www.llbean.com | pcarr...@llbean.com | 207.552.2426 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. The information is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or other use of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:39 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: New User Linux on z10 question Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL without the use of z/VM. Is this true and how? The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I may have missed. Thanks in advance. Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
>>> On 4/6/2011 at 10:03 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: > oops - forgot about Xen.. which I believe can also virtualize? I know very > little about it on z... so should probably not have said 'the only way' ;-) Xen won't even compile on System z, let alone run. KVM is the other option for System z. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > Yes you can have 12 LPARs sharing a single IFL. Whether it works very well is an "It Depends". > > The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now > on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux > images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I > may have missed. > No you can not run multple Linux guests in a single LPAR without z/VM. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim Hughes > Consulting Systems Programmer > Mainframe Technical Support Group > Department of Information Technology > State of New Hampshire > 27 Hazen Drive > Concord, NH 03301 > 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 > > Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are > confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or > dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the message from your system. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
On Wednesday, 04/06/2011 at 09:41 EDT, "Hughes, Jim" wrote: > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > > The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now > on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux > images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I > may have missed. It may be a reference to KVM, the "virtual machine" technology built into Linux. Maybe KVM can run 12 images on an IFL *doing something useful* and maybe it can't. Dunno... Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
Nobody eats just one. Find another one. Run VM. :) Marcy -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:58 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] New User Linux on z10 question Multiple LPARs can share an IFL... but the only way to run multiple Linux instances in a single LPAR is using z/VM to virtualize it. If you're really talking about one lonely IFL - you'll likely want to dedicate it and let z/VM manage the sharing on a single LPAR. Scott Rohling On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > > The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now > on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux > images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I > may have missed. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim Hughes > Consulting Systems Programmer > Mainframe Technical Support Group > Department of Information Technology > State of New Hampshire > 27 Hazen Drive > Concord, NH 03301 > 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 > > Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are > confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or > dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the message from your system. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
oops - forgot about Xen.. which I believe can also virtualize? I know very little about it on z... so should probably not have said 'the only way' ;-) Scott Rohling On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: > Multiple LPARs can share an IFL... but the only way to run multiple Linux > instances in a single LPAR is using z/VM to virtualize it. > > If you're really talking about one lonely IFL - you'll likely want to > dedicate it and let z/VM manage the sharing on a single LPAR. > > Scott Rohling > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: > >> Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL >> without the use of z/VM. >> >> Is this true and how? >> >> The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now >> on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux >> images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I >> may have missed. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> Jim Hughes >> Consulting Systems Programmer >> Mainframe Technical Support Group >> Department of Information Technology >> State of New Hampshire >> 27 Hazen Drive >> Concord, NH 03301 >> 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 >> >> Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are >> confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or >> dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not >> the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender >> immediately and delete the message from your system. >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> > > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
Multiple LPARs can share an IFL... but the only way to run multiple Linux instances in a single LPAR is using z/VM to virtualize it. If you're really talking about one lonely IFL - you'll likely want to dedicate it and let z/VM manage the sharing on a single LPAR. Scott Rohling On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > > The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now > on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux > images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I > may have missed. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim Hughes > Consulting Systems Programmer > Mainframe Technical Support Group > Department of Information Technology > State of New Hampshire > 27 Hazen Drive > Concord, NH 03301 > 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 > > Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are > confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or > dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the message from your system. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > Behalf Of Hughes, Jim > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:39 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: New User Linux on z10 question > > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > > The management around here heard this statement a while back > and are now > on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux > images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I > may have missed. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim Hughes I thik you misunderstand. The 12 Linux images don't all run in a single LPAR. You make 12 LPARs. Share the one IFL between all 12 LPARs. I don't remember the upper limit for the number of LPARs on each different z. We run 3 z/OS systems on 2 CPs with no z/VM - by using LPARs. Nothing magic. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New User Linux on z10 question
You may be able to run 12 LPARs on a single IFL, but you can only run one instance of an OS on a LPAR without VM. Billy On 6 Apr 2011 at 9:39, Hughes, Jim wrote: > Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL > without the use of z/VM. > > Is this true and how? > > The management around here heard this statement a while back and are > now on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple > Linux images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for > what I may have missed. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jim Hughes > Consulting Systems Programmer > Mainframe Technical Support Group > Department of Information Technology > State of New Hampshire > 27 Hazen Drive > Concord, NH 03301 > 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 > > Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are > confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or > dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender > immediately and delete the message from your system. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
New User Linux on z10 question
Someone told me it is possible to run 12 Linux images on a single IFL without the use of z/VM. Is this true and how? The management around here heard this statement a while back and are now on a quest for us to create an LPAR for the IFL to run multiple Linux images on it. I must have missed the memo and I am looking for what I may have missed. Thanks in advance. Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 603-271-5586Fax 603.271.1516 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential. Any unauthorized disclosure, reproduction, use or dissemination (either whole or in part) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message from your system. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
