Re: Posting etiquette
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Mark Post On 3/13/2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Barajas wrote: -snip- I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? There have been a few job postings in the past, but not a lot. Each time it has caused some of the list members some consternation,because their employers forbid them to be subscribed (from their work email) to any mailing list where job postings are made, no matter if that's not the main purpose of the list. In some cases, it's cause for termination for them. So, while it's not actually prohibited by anyone, it's also not actively encouraged. There is a no- cost job posting page on Velocity Software's web site. Other than that, I would only say going through one of the commercial sites such as dice.com, monster.com, etc. might be your best bet. Over the last year or so, I have seen a number of mainframe Linux and z/VM jobs pop up there. Although there hasn't been too many people that have announced layoffs, your last option I would say would be looking through the archives of this list and IBMVM. We had one of our members recently get laid off from his job, and he's looking for z/VM and Linux employment in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. You might also try here: http://www.linkedin.com/ It's free -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: The initial EU analysis is here but rather dry reading: http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/docs/studies/final_report_india_en.pdf The bigger question anyway is control and enforcement (by the company and by the authorities) And there is little hope that privacy rules will be enforced by the public walking away from companies and organizations that have demonstrated questionable behavior in this aspect. Privacy awareness with the general public appears to be non-existing. At least in The Netherlands people are willing to give up privacy in return of a suggested possible simplification of finding criminals or chance on small financial reward. We seem to have no issues with collecting DNA profiles from every citizen, keeping detailed phone and email records for 18 months, uncontrolled remote metering of gas, water and electricity, etc. Rob (yes, that's a tin foil hat I'm wearing) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Can we get back to zLinux issues? Enough - now I have to build a rule to block this subject matter. Take it offline 'Where ever you go - There you are!! ' Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski System z - Linux Product Manager Portfolio Platform Services CSC 3170 Fairview Park Dr., Falls Church, VA 22042 845-773-9243 Work|845-392-7889 Cell|rgasi...@csc.com|www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 03/16/2009 08:14 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Posting etiquette On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: The initial EU analysis is here but rather dry reading: http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/docs/studies/final_report_india_en.pdf The bigger question anyway is control and enforcement (by the company and by the authorities) And there is little hope that privacy rules will be enforced by the public walking away from companies and organizations that have demonstrated questionable behavior in this aspect. Privacy awareness with the general public appears to be non-existing. At least in The Netherlands people are willing to give up privacy in return of a suggested possible simplification of finding criminals or chance on small financial reward. We seem to have no issues with collecting DNA profiles from every citizen, keeping detailed phone and email records for 18 months, uncontrolled remote metering of gas, water and electricity, etc. Rob (yes, that's a tin foil hat I'm wearing) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
The problem I have with job postings is that receiving them here is a violation of company policy. Management takes it as doing a job search on company time. If there are too many, then I'll have to leave the list, or lose my job and generate the need to see the listings. I'd prefer to not see postings containing job listings. I like the list, use the list, and would like to stay subscribed. I like my job, need my job, and would like to stay employed. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 3/14/09 10:59 PM, Douglas M. Wooster d...@isomedia.com wrote: As one of those recently laid off, I wholeheartedly agree. :) Douglas On Fri March 13 2009, Schneck.Glenn Schneck.Glenn glenn.schn...@suntrust.com wrote: Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Thank you all for your suggestions and I hope I did not cause issues for anyone. I will take the suggestions for the sites provided and look to post there for my open role(s). Appreciate all your input. Mark -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 07:31 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette The problem I have with job postings is that receiving them here is a violation of company policy. Management takes it as doing a job search on company time. If there are too many, then I'll have to leave the list, or lose my job and generate the need to see the listings. I'd prefer to not see postings containing job listings. I like the list, use the list, and would like to stay subscribed. I like my job, need my job, and would like to stay employed. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 3/14/09 10:59 PM, Douglas M. Wooster d...@isomedia.com wrote: As one of those recently laid off, I wholeheartedly agree. :) Douglas On Fri March 13 2009, Schneck.Glenn Schneck.Glenn glenn.schn...@suntrust.com wrote: Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Alan Cox wrote: ANZ Bank (anz.com.au) has just announced its sending lots of jobs tO India. I'm an ANZ customer. I'm wondering what that implies for my privacy, Indian laws are not Australian laws. I'm sure they're not as good as Australian laws, and enforcement is problematic. I don't like the idea of most confidential information about me leaving our shores. Did Australia not do what people like the EU did and require its own data protection rules or better must apply to exported data ? I don't know what Australia did, and I bet very few Australians know. What happens when there's an information leak in India? Does Australian law apply? I suspect not. Ask a lawyer, you get into the world of liability and negligence not just DP law. Anyway India has a variety of privacy laws but they are not quite the same as most of the western ones and they were not neccessarily as complete in some areas. India also has an acute lack of judges, it can take decades to get one. Jain feared that delay in justice could erode people’s faith in the judiciary. “There is one judge for one million people in India in comparison to one judge for 80,000 people in developed countries,” said Jain. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/delay-in-justice-eroding-peoples-faith-in-judiciary-says-former-cj/432096/ In its 120th report submitted on 31 January 1987 the Law Commission recommended that India ought to have 107 judges per million by the year 2000, http://www.indiatogether.org/2008/jul/hrt-odds.htm I think the above target has not been met. i need not fling statistics at you. reality stares us in the face. our courts are snowed down under crushing arrears. in our populous country, the judge to population ratio is abysmal. simply put, we need more judges. our courts need more courtrooms. our country needs more courts. that's the least infrastructure necessary, to speed up disposal of cases in various courts. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1284088.cms The initial EU analysis is here but rather dry reading: http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/docs/studies/final_report_india_en.pdf The bigger question anyway is control and enforcement (by the company and by the authorities) Seems to me companies use information any way they jolly well like, and if it's not embarrassing there's no problem. That's why we need provicy laws. And, if there's an information leak of Australian data in India, it won't get much coverage there, and the media here may well not find out either. In Australia, _I_ cannot mount law case. I'd first have to find there was a breach, then I'd have to find container-ship loads of money to hire a lawyer. Doubtless any decisions would be appealed to the full bench of the Federal court and then to the High Court (fortunately the Privy Council's not in the picture any more). Probably, it's better to go annoy a local polly, the appropriate one for me has her office just up the road. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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ANZ Bank (anz.com.au) has just announced its sending lots of jobs tO India. I'm an ANZ customer. I'm wondering what that implies for my privacy, Indian laws are not Australian laws. I'm sure they're not as good as Australian laws, and enforcement is problematic. I don't like the idea of most confidential information about me leaving our shores. Did Australia not do what people like the EU did and require its own data protection rules or better must apply to exported data ? What happens when there's an information leak in India? Does Australian law apply? I suspect not. Ask a lawyer, you get into the world of liability and negligence not just DP law. Anyway India has a variety of privacy laws but they are not quite the same as most of the western ones and they were not neccessarily as complete in some areas. The initial EU analysis is here but rather dry reading: http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/docs/studies/final_report_india_en.pdf The bigger question anyway is control and enforcement (by the company and by the authorities) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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As one of those recently laid off, I wholeheartedly agree. :) Douglas On Fri March 13 2009, Schneck.Glenn Schneck.Glenn glenn.schn...@suntrust.com wrote: Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo. -Hyrum W. Smith A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective. -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo. -Hyrum W. Smith A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective. -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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The following link is provided for this industry at no charge: http://velocitysoftware.com/jobs/; This is for posting jobs available and wanted for the VM, VSE and Linux platforms. Mark Barajas wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo. -Hyrum W. Smith A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective. -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 begin:vcard fn:Barton Robinson n:Robinson;Barton adr;dom:;;PO 391209;Mountain View;CA;94039-1209 email;internet:bar...@velocitysoftware.com title:Sr. Architect tel;work:650-964-8867 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:VelocitySoftware.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Posting etiquette
On 3/13/2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Barajas mark.e.bara...@accenture.com wrote: -snip- I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? There have been a few job postings in the past, but not a lot. Each time it has caused some of the list members some consternation,because their employers forbid them to be subscribed (from their work email) to any mailing list where job postings are made, no matter if that's not the main purpose of the list. In some cases, it's cause for termination for them. So, while it's not actually prohibited by anyone, it's also not actively encouraged. There is a no-cost job posting page on Velocity Software's web site. Other than that, I would only say going through one of the commercial sites such as dice.com, monster.com, etc. might be your best bet. Over the last year or so, I have seen a number of mainframe Linux and z/VM jobs pop up there. Although there hasn't been too many people that have announced layoffs, your last option I would say would be looking through the archives of this list and IBMVM. We had one of our members recently get laid off from his job, and he's looking for z/VM and Linux employment in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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And that coming from a person working at a bank in this economic climate ;-) Personally, job offering and searching is for a different format, this should be a technical forum, not a job search tool. Go to Monster.com or Dice.com for a job search. That's my two cents. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Schneck.Glenn Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:12 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo. -Hyrum W. Smith A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective. -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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I was one of those recent Moving On posters, and apologize if that has created concerns on the list. These sorts of messages have been used for many years by members of the VM community to announce retirements, job changes, etc. The subject Moving On was not arbitrary, tracing back to MEMO MOVING-ON on the old VMSHARE site (for people old enough to remember that collaboration occurred amongst VMers long before the Internets). Mark Wheeler _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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I might suggest creating a presence on LinkedIn not only for job search but also for the many other support information resources offered there. D Waldo Anderson -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Although I certainly appreciate the concept of LinkedIn and what it has to offer (a link to my public profile is in my sig), some people don't have the bandwidth, knowledge or just don't care for that sort of social networking. There could be other reasons for not participating. MEMO postings are a hold over from before Al Gore invented the internet and are very relevant to the audience of the list. Velocity Software is very graciously hosting the jobs list. Every so often a question comes up about jobs and several people will respond with the URL, or Tony Noto from Velocity will just the URL as a reminder. Dan: do the list rules allow for a short summary of a new available position to be posted? D Waldo Anderson wrote: I might suggest creating a presence on LinkedIn not only for job search but also for the many other support information resources offered there. D Waldo Anderson -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 03:50:57PM -0500, Mark Wheeler wrote: These sorts of messages have been used for many years by members of the VM community to announce retirements, job changes, etc. The subject Moving On was not arbitrary, tracing back to MEMO MOVING-ON on the old VMSHARE site (for people old enough to remember that collaboration occurred amongst VMers long before the Internets). MEMO ITSABOY, ITSAGIRL--yup, they were all primordial Facebook and an extremely important reason why VM survived. I surely hope there's a place for such social networking amongst all those who subscribe herein, even if it not be via this particular facility. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.' --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:03 AM, David L. Craig d...@radix.net wrote: MEMO ITSABOY, ITSAGIRL--yup, they were all primordial Facebook and an extremely important reason why VM survived. I surely hope there's a place for such social networking amongst all those who subscribe herein, even if it not be via this particular facility. For those who are not old enough (or too old and have forgotten) http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ Very fond memories indeed when I see the creativity ;-) MEMO ITSABOOK Announcements of books written by VMSHARE residents MEMO ITSABOYBirth Announcements For the Male Gender MEMO ITSADR Announcements of degree conferrals MEMO ITSAGIRL Birth Announcements For the Fairer Sex MEMO ITSATHEM Births are announced in ITSABOY/ITSAGIRL; this file announces weddings -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
On 3/13/2009 at 6:57 PM, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote: -snip- Dan: do the list rules allow for a short summary of a new available position to be posted? Wrong list. ;) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
Mark Wheeler wrote: I was one of those recent Moving On posters, and apologize if that has created concerns on the list. Responses to Moving on posts I remember mostly are of the good luck, it's been nice knowing you kind. I think Mark was expressing concern about jobs available notices, not work wanted. ANZ Bank (anz.com.au) has just announced its sending lots of jobs tO India. I'm an ANZ customer. I'm wondering what that implies for my privacy, Indian laws are not Australian laws. I'm sure they're not as good as Australian laws, and enforcement is problematic. I don't like the idea of most confidential information about me leaving our shores. What happens when there's an information leak in India? Does Australian law apply? I suspect not. If any employers are thinking sending IT work, these are concerns that need to be addressed. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
