Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz

Also - is it normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device
number?

fdasd or dasdfmt, one, will by default set the volser to 0Xdevno.
So, yes.

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We do a dasdfmt command with the -l option to add a volume name. Example:

dasdfmt -b 4096 -y -f /dev/dasdb -l vol001 

Now when you view it from MVS it shows as vol001

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread Stephen Frazier

Correct if you supply a volume serial it will use it. If you don't have the -l 
xx on the command
then it will use 0Xdevno as the volume serial.

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Also - is it normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device
number?

fdasd or dasdfmt, one, will by default set the volser to 0Xdevno.
So, yes.

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We do a dasdfmt command with the -l option to add a volume name. Example:

dasdfmt -b 4096 -y -f /dev/dasdb -l vol001 

Now when you view it from MVS it shows as vol001

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread Adam Thornton

On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:


Also - is it normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the
device
number?

fdasd or dasdfmt, one, will by default set the volser to 0Xdevno.
So, yes.

:Warning ON
VM Newbie Answering a question

We do a dasdfmt command with the -l option to add a volume name.
Example:

dasdfmt -b 4096 -y -f /dev/dasdb -l vol001 

Now when you view it from MVS it shows as vol001

:Warning OFF


Yeah: if you care what the volser ends up as then you should always
use the -l flag to set it as part of the DASD preparation step.  If,
on the other hand, you only care about it from a device address
standpoint, the default is probably OK.

Adam

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread David Boyes
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Welcome to the party...8-)

 We do a dasdfmt command with the -l option to add a volume name.
Example:
 
 dasdfmt -b 4096 -y -f /dev/dasdb -l vol001 
 
 Now when you view it from MVS it shows as vol001

A much better approach than letting it default, esp since the addresses
will change when he does the copy. 

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread Tim Hare
I formatted these using YAST, I believe. Is there an option I should have
looked for? This is an LPAR install, not VM so if there are VM commands
involved I'm unable to perform those.

Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation
(850) 414-4209

Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 12/13/2006 10:35:35
AM:

  :Warning ON
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 Welcome to the party...8-)

  We do a dasdfmt command with the -l option to add a volume name.
 Example:
 
  dasdfmt -b 4096 -y -f /dev/dasdb -l vol001 
 
  Now when you view it from MVS it shows as vol001

 A much better approach than letting it default, esp since the addresses
 will change when he does the copy.

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Post
No, dasdfmt is a Linux/390 command.  I don't recall if YaST gives you the
option to specify a volser or not.  You would probably have to issue the
command from the command line.


Mark Post

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I formatted these using YAST, I believe. Is there an option I should have
looked for? This is an LPAR install, not VM so if there are VM commands
involved I'm unable to perform those.

Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-12 Thread Stahr, Lea
I did FDR backups of a running system and they would not run when
restored. Shut down the Linux system and they work fine.

Lea Stahr
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Subject: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

I realize it isn't the best practice for backing up Linux, but I will be
having to move volumes to a new DASD array. I'd like to use FDR
full-volume backups of my Linux volumes just for insurance (we will use
FDRPAS to move the information, most likely).  Has anyone had any issues
taking full-volume backups of Linux-formatted 3390-3 volumes? Also - is
it
normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device number?

Thanks
Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation
(850) 414-4209

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-12 Thread Adam Thornton

On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Tim Hare wrote:


I realize it isn't the best practice for backing up Linux, but I
will be
having to move volumes to a new DASD array. I'd like to use FDR
full-volume backups of my Linux volumes just for insurance (we will
use
FDRPAS to move the information, most likely).  Has anyone had any
issues
taking full-volume backups of Linux-formatted 3390-3 volumes? Also
- is it
normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device number?


Make sure your guests are DOWN when you do a full-volume backup.

fdasd or dasdfmt, one, will by default set the volser to 0Xdevno.
So, yes.

Adam

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-12 Thread David Boyes
 I realize it isn't the best practice for backing up Linux, but I will
be
 having to move volumes to a new DASD array. I'd like to use FDR
 full-volume backups of my Linux volumes just for insurance (we will
use
 FDRPAS to move the information, most likely).  Has anyone had any
issues
 taking full-volume backups of Linux-formatted 3390-3 volumes? 

As long as the guests are *completely* down -- not just inactive -- you
should be fine. 

 Also - is it
 normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device number?

Hmm. Not normal, but permitted if the original creator so chose.  Is
this a LPAR installation? That would be more common there. 

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Re: FDR backups of Linux volumes?

2006-12-12 Thread Tim Hare
Yes, this is in an LPAR. Management won't pay for z/VM until proof of
concept and a use case are developed for virtualized Linux servers. I will
be devoting more time to that after the first of the year, I hope. For now
I just want to make sure I don't lose work I have already done.

Tim Hare
Senior Systems Programmer
Florida Department of Transportation
(850) 414-4209



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 I realize it isn't the best practice for backing up Linux, but I will
be
 having to move volumes to a new DASD array. I'd like to use FDR
 full-volume backups of my Linux volumes just for insurance (we will
use
 FDRPAS to move the information, most likely).  Has anyone had any
issues
 taking full-volume backups of Linux-formatted 3390-3 volumes?

As long as the guests are *completely* down -- not just inactive -- you
should be fine.

 Also - is it
 normal for the volume serial to be 0X followed by the device number?

Hmm. Not normal, but permitted if the original creator so chose.  Is
this a LPAR installation? That would be more common there.

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