Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:23, you wrote:
> any thanks to Mark, Daniel, John and Alan.
>
>
> Looks like all I needed (other than the original kernel eratta) was the
> modutils update.
>
>
> I was fortunate this was a small chain to chase, in that this system is
> not connected to the net, and therefore I can not do the easy tricks
> such as up2date  :-(

I expect if you get _all_ the updates available at any time you will never
have more than a minor problem with dependancy chains.

Whatever RH's policy is, I do imagine it includes ensuring all prerequisites
for any given update are available to anyone who can get the update.




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Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-28 Thread paultz
Many thanks to Mark, Daniel, John and Alan.

Looks like all I needed (other than the original kernel eratta) was the
modutils update.

I was fortunate this was a small chain to chase, in that this system is
not connected to the net, and therefore I can not do the easy tricks
such as up2date  :-(

Thanks to all!
Paul


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From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:      Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade
In-Reply-To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 16:47, Post, Mark K wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I and many others have been down that road.  It's one of more
irritating
> things, probably why someone adapted Debian's apt-get tool for RPMs.
Check
> out http://linuxvm.org/archives/200201.html and look at the second
entry for
> 01/21/2002.  Alan Cox talks about apt-rpm there.

Or if you are using Red Hat network

up2date packagename

will do the thinking for you too



Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 16:47, Post, Mark K wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I and many others have been down that road.  It's one of more irritating
> things, probably why someone adapted Debian's apt-get tool for RPMs.  Check
> out http://linuxvm.org/archives/200201.html and look at the second entry for
> 01/21/2002.  Alan Cox talks about apt-rpm there.

Or if you are using Red Hat network

up2date packagename

will do the thinking for you too



Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Paul,

I and many others have been down that road.  It's one of more irritating
things, probably why someone adapted Debian's apt-get tool for RPMs.  Check
out http://linuxvm.org/archives/200201.html and look at the second entry for
01/21/2002.  Alan Cox talks about apt-rpm there.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade


Mark,

You make it sound like an ominous road that you have already been down.
Is there anyway of knowing the 'prereqs' and 'coreqs' in advance, or is
this strictly a case of 'one-thing-leads-to-another'?

Thanks,
Paul



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Paul,

If that's the only complaint RPM gave you, then for the kernel, all you
will
need is the new modutils.  Now, what complaints you get when you go to
install modutils are another matter.  :)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade


I am trying to upgrade an RH7.2 from 2.4.9-17 to 2.4.9-38.  This is on
an internal system with no connectivity to the internet.  When I try
installing kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm, I get a "modutils >= 2.4.13 is
needed by kernel-2.4.9-38".  Do I just need the new modutils to upgrade,

or will I need the 2.4.9-37 rpm and others as well?

Thanks,
Paul



Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-22 Thread daniel . jarboe
modutils looks easy as far as dependencies go... nothing you shouldn't
already have.
$ rpm -q --requires modutils-2.4.13
/sbin/chkconfig
sh-utils
/bin/sh
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
ld.so.1
libc.so.6
/bin/sh
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)

good luck! ~ Daniel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mark,

You make it sound like an ominous road that you have already been down.
Is there anyway of knowing the 'prereqs' and 'coreqs' in advance, or is
this strictly a case of 'one-thing-leads-to-another'?

Thanks,
Paul



=
Paul,

If that's the only complaint RPM gave you, then for the kernel, all you
will
need is the new modutils.  Now, what complaints you get when you go to
install modutils are another matter.  :)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade


I am trying to upgrade an RH7.2 from 2.4.9-17 to 2.4.9-38.  This is on
an internal system with no connectivity to the internet.  When I try
installing kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm, I get a "modutils >= 2.4.13 is
needed by kernel-2.4.9-38".  Do I just need the new modutils to upgrade,

or will I need the 2.4.9-37 rpm and others as well?

Thanks,
Paul




Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-21 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 05:50, you wrote:
> You make it sound like an ominous road that you have already been down.
> Is there anyway of knowing the 'prereqs' and 'coreqs' in advance, or is
> this strictly a case of 'one-thing-leads-to-another'?


rpm cannot look ahead for dependencies. It cannot tell you what modutils needs
until it has its ehands on the package.

You _can_ get horrible dependency chains, but so long as you use packages
"built for RHL 7.2" that is fairly unlikely.

OTOH, adding a package designed for SuSE, Mandrake, Yellow Dog or whatever
could be another matter altogether. As might a package for RHL 8.0;-)



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Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-21 Thread paultz
Mark,

You make it sound like an ominous road that you have already been down.
Is there anyway of knowing the 'prereqs' and 'coreqs' in advance, or is
this strictly a case of 'one-thing-leads-to-another'?

Thanks,
Paul



=
Paul,

If that's the only complaint RPM gave you, then for the kernel, all you
will
need is the new modutils.  Now, what complaints you get when you go to
install modutils are another matter.  :)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade


I am trying to upgrade an RH7.2 from 2.4.9-17 to 2.4.9-38.  This is on
an internal system with no connectivity to the internet.  When I try
installing kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm, I get a "modutils >= 2.4.13 is
needed by kernel-2.4.9-38".  Do I just need the new modutils to upgrade,

or will I need the 2.4.9-37 rpm and others as well?

Thanks,
Paul



Re: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade

2002-10-21 Thread Post, Mark K
Paul,

If that's the only complaint RPM gave you, then for the kernel, all you will
need is the new modutils.  Now, what complaints you get when you go to
install modutils are another matter.  :)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 7.2 upgrade


I am trying to upgrade an RH7.2 from 2.4.9-17 to 2.4.9-38.  This is on
an internal system with no connectivity to the internet.  When I try
installing kernel-2.4.9-38.s390.rpm, I get a "modutils >= 2.4.13 is
needed by kernel-2.4.9-38".  Do I just need the new modutils to upgrade,
or will I need the 2.4.9-37 rpm and others as well?

Thanks,
Paul