Re: The quantum computer comes of age
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Re: The quantum computer comes of age
I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? LOL K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:52 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: The quantum computer comes of age Not likely. The Dwave machine is based on setting up the state machines (the equivalent of programming the thing) and then cooling the equipment to cryogenic temperatures. It doesn't' function at all at room temperature, and it's really hard to change the keys. 8-) Well that's similar to what GM, Ford, and Chrysler said about the first Toyotas that washed ashore... Color me a bit cynical, but J-junctions have been touted as the next big solution to every computational problem since addition since they were discovered, and this time also triggers my bogometer. We still haven't seen a working quantum device that can solve a non-trivial problem that hasn't been deconstructed by an enormous amount of human intelligence first. Decomposition for massively parallel architectures is peanuts compared to problem decomposition for quantum architectures. It's an enormously cool idea, but let's see it work first before we start chucking working stuff. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:03:44 -0500 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? I can't recommend bogometers, mine exploded when I accidentally left it near a standards document. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
That wasn't by any chance Ecma 376? ;) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: February 7, 2007 09:21 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: The quantum computer comes of age On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:03:44 -0500 Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? I can't recommend bogometers, mine exploded when I accidentally left it near a standards document. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? LOL No, but the rental is very reasonable. 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Have you fixed the bug where they blow up when placed next to documentation? Is there a PTF available? K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:02 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: The quantum computer comes of age I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? LOL No, but the rental is very reasonable. 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Rental sounds interesting! What kind of rental agreements do you offer? - Do you charge based on BogoMips or bogons count (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_bogodynamics)? - Could you arrange a one time charge, with a later one-time charge for capacity increase? - Or maybe some base capacity at some rate, and some extra (peak) capacity at a different rate? ;-) Best, Klaus (from Denmark, who has been following this list a couple of month in relation to a master thesis project. I really appreciate the insight and expert knowledge shared on this list, thank you!) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:02 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: The quantum computer comes of age I would like one of your bogometers (I could use one here). Do you sell them? LOL No, but the rental is very reasonable. 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Have you fixed the bug where they blow up when placed next to documentation? Is there a PTF available? Taken offline for further discussion. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Dave Jones wrote: This has nothing to do directly with VM, but I though some folks might find it interestingD-Wave Systems Inc.will be unveiling a quantum computer on Feb. 13. They note This quantum computer employs the resources of 65,536 parallel universes to compute answers in a fundamentally new way. More details here: http://www.dwavesys.com/ Why do I suddenly get the sinking feeling that all current encryption algorithms are now obsolete? ;-) Have a good one. There was an interesting writeup about that. 1) if they really DO have 16 qubits in the Josephson-Junction system they're using, that is big news 2) even if they *do* it doesn't give them better than quadratic speedup on NP-hard problems 3) but if they can get to 1000 qubits by 2010, as they say they can, that will be *huge* news Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
And a little more information is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/376098497/ DJ Adam Thornton wrote: On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Dave Jones wrote: This has nothing to do directly with VM, but I though some folks might find it interestingD-Wave Systems Inc.will be unveiling a quantum computer on Feb. 13. They note This quantum computer employs the resources of 65,536 parallel universes to compute answers in a fundamentally new way. More details here: http://www.dwavesys.com/ Why do I suddenly get the sinking feeling that all current encryption algorithms are now obsolete? ;-) Have a good one. There was an interesting writeup about that. 1) if they really DO have 16 qubits in the Josephson-Junction system they're using, that is big news 2) even if they *do* it doesn't give them better than quadratic speedup on NP-hard problems 3) but if they can get to 1000 qubits by 2010, as they say they can, that will be *huge* news Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Adam Thornton wrote: On Feb 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Dave Jones wrote: This has nothing to do directly with VM, but I though some folks might find it interestingD-Wave Systems Inc.will be unveiling a quantum computer on Feb. 13. They note This quantum computer employs the resources of 65,536 parallel universes to compute answers in a fundamentally new way. More details here: http://www.dwavesys.com/ Why do I suddenly get the sinking feeling that all current encryption algorithms are now obsolete? ;-) Have a good one. There was an interesting writeup about that. 1) if they really DO have 16 qubits in the Josephson-Junction system they're using, that is big news 2) even if they *do* it doesn't give them better than quadratic speedup on NP-hard problems 3) but if they can get to 1000 qubits by 2010, as they say they can, that will be *huge* news Adam Noah: RiiIIIiiight. Lord, what's a qubit? Lord: Hmm, I used to know this...(mumbles to himself Couldn't resist; all thorough this I just keep hearing Bill Cosby in the background. Kim Goldenberg -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Not likely. The Dwave machine is based on setting up the state machines (the equivalent of programming the thing) and then cooling the equipment to cryogenic temperatures. It doesn't' function at all at room temperature, and it's really hard to change the keys. 8-) Well that's similar to what GM, Ford, and Chrysler said about the first Toyotas that washed ashore... Paul -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
The quantum computer comes of age
This has nothing to do directly with VM, but I though some folks might find it interestingD-Wave Systems Inc.will be unveiling a quantum computer on Feb. 13. They note This quantum computer employs the resources of 65,536 parallel universes to compute answers in a fundamentally new way. More details here: http://www.dwavesys.com/ Why do I suddenly get the sinking feeling that all current encryption algorithms are now obsolete? ;-) Have a good one. DJ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Noah: RiiIIIiiight. Lord, what's a qubit? Lord: Hmm, I used to know this...(mumbles to himself Couldn't resist; all thorough this I just keep hearing Bill Cosby in the background. Standard digital computer are binary: one or zero. To represent 1024 values takes 10 bits. QUantum BITs can have more states (eight I think?) so a 10 qubit machine can represent 1,073,741,824 values. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: The quantum computer comes of age
Not likely. The Dwave machine is based on setting up the state machines (the equivalent of programming the thing) and then cooling the equipment to cryogenic temperatures. It doesn't' function at all at room temperature, and it's really hard to change the keys. 8-) Well that's similar to what GM, Ford, and Chrysler said about the first Toyotas that washed ashore... Color me a bit cynical, but J-junctions have been touted as the next big solution to every computational problem since addition since they were discovered, and this time also triggers my bogometer. We still haven't seen a working quantum device that can solve a non-trivial problem that hasn't been deconstructed by an enormous amount of human intelligence first. Decomposition for massively parallel architectures is peanuts compared to problem decomposition for quantum architectures. It's an enormously cool idea, but let's see it work first before we start chucking working stuff. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
