Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-27 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Mark/Ron,

Ron Baldor had replied...
We got them from here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html

However, we used the tgz file instead of the rpm.
...

Sam (the guy here that is doing this) did use the RPM from the above
URL. He is now trying the tgz file to see if that changes things.

Thanks, I'll post any results later..

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:18 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at  2:41 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm posting this for a colleague here, so hopefully the stuff below
 makes sense (personally I'm a mainframe/CICS guy).





 The JRE installs without any problems; however, I'm having a bit of
 difficulty with the IBM Java 6.0-0.0 SDK installation for s390x on
 zLinux.

 The rpm states a dependency error with libstdc++.so.5 as well as
 libXp.so.5.

 I verified libstdc++.so.5 and libXp so.5 are both installed (through
 compat-libstdc++-295-2.9.5.3-81.s390x.rpm and I can't recall the libXp
 library).

 I then removed the JRE and attempted to install the SDK again.  No
luck.
 If I extract the rpm directly everything seems to run fine.

 I'm using ibm-java-s390x-sdk-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm and
 ibm-java-s390x-jre-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm

 Anyone successfully installed the sdk here?

Where were those packages obtained from?  Your Linux distribution
provider?  If so, which one?


Mark Post

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Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-27 Thread Mark Post
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at  7:35 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Mark/Ron,
 
 Ron Baldor had replied...
 We got them from here:
 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html
 
 However, we used the tgz file instead of the rpm.
 ...
 
 Sam (the guy here that is doing this) did use the RPM from the above
 URL. He is now trying the tgz file to see if that changes things.

Since you didn't get the package from your Linux distribution provider, I'm not 
very surprised that you have problems with missing dependencies.  Using the 
.tgz file will not show the same problem, because RPM won't be involved, but 
then you've just bypassed the software inventory mechanism (similar to zapping 
things outside of SMP/E or SES), so it won't know anything about what you did.  
This could very easily lead to problems in the future, if some of the files get 
deleted, written over, etc.  You won't be able to use RPM to verify things.  
You also won't be able to ask your support provider to help you out, either, 
since you'll have voided support for that package or set of packages.  Only you 
can decide if having this particular version is worth all that, but if it were 
me, there would have to be a _really_ strong business case for it.


Mark Post

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Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-27 Thread Evans, Kevin R
OK, thanks Mark. I'll pass this on to Sam.

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:50 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at  7:35 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark/Ron,

 Ron Baldor had replied...
 We got them from here:
 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html

 However, we used the tgz file instead of the rpm.
 ...

 Sam (the guy here that is doing this) did use the RPM from the above
 URL. He is now trying the tgz file to see if that changes things.

Since you didn't get the package from your Linux distribution provider,
I'm not very surprised that you have problems with missing dependencies.
Using the .tgz file will not show the same problem, because RPM won't be
involved, but then you've just bypassed the software inventory mechanism
(similar to zapping things outside of SMP/E or SES), so it won't know
anything about what you did.  This could very easily lead to problems in
the future, if some of the files get deleted, written over, etc.  You
won't be able to use RPM to verify things.  You also won't be able to
ask your support provider to help you out, either, since you'll have
voided support for that package or set of packages.  Only you can decide
if having this particular version is worth all that, but if it were me,
there would have to be a _really_ strong business case for it.


Mark Post

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Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-27 Thread Brad Hinson
If you're using the RPM (which Mark pointed out is the way to go), it
looks like you'll need to install the other compat-libstd package
(compat-libstdc++-33) i.e. not compat-libstdc++-295.  You also need the
libXp rpm.  Here's the output of what each rpm provides (taken from RHEL
5):

# rpm -qp --provides libXp-1.0.0-8.1.el5.s390x.rpm
libXp.so.6()(64bit)
xorg-x11-deprecated-libs
libXp = 1.0.0-8.1.el5

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Server]# rpm -qp --provides compat-libstdc
++-33-3.2.3-61.s390x.rpm
libstdc++.so.5()(64bit)
[snip]

With these two RPMs installed, I was able to install the SDK RPM.

-Brad

On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 11:04 -0400, Evans, Kevin R wrote:
 OK, thanks Mark. I'll pass this on to Sam.

 Kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Mark Post
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:50 AM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

  On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at  7:35 AM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Evans, Kevin
 R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark/Ron,
 
  Ron Baldor had replied...
  We got them from here:
  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html
 
  However, we used the tgz file instead of the rpm.
  ...
 
  Sam (the guy here that is doing this) did use the RPM from the above
  URL. He is now trying the tgz file to see if that changes things.

 Since you didn't get the package from your Linux distribution provider,
 I'm not very surprised that you have problems with missing dependencies.
 Using the .tgz file will not show the same problem, because RPM won't be
 involved, but then you've just bypassed the software inventory mechanism
 (similar to zapping things outside of SMP/E or SES), so it won't know
 anything about what you did.  This could very easily lead to problems in
 the future, if some of the files get deleted, written over, etc.  You
 won't be able to use RPM to verify things.  You also won't be able to
 ask your support provider to help you out, either, since you'll have
 voided support for that package or set of packages.  Only you can decide
 if having this particular version is worth all that, but if it were me,
 there would have to be a _really_ strong business case for it.


 Mark Post

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zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-26 Thread Evans, Kevin R
I'm posting this for a colleague here, so hopefully the stuff below
makes sense (personally I'm a mainframe/CICS guy).





The JRE installs without any problems; however, I'm having a bit of
difficulty with the IBM Java 6.0-0.0 SDK installation for s390x on
zLinux.

The rpm states a dependency error with libstdc++.so.5 as well as
libXp.so.5.

I verified libstdc++.so.5 and libXp so.5 are both installed (through
compat-libstdc++-295-2.9.5.3-81.s390x.rpm and I can't recall the libXp
library).

I then removed the JRE and attempted to install the SDK again.  No luck.
If I extract the rpm directly everything seems to run fine.

I'm using ibm-java-s390x-sdk-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm and
ibm-java-s390x-jre-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm

Anyone successfully installed the sdk here?



Kevin R Evans



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Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Post
 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at  2:41 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I'm posting this for a colleague here, so hopefully the stuff below
 makes sense (personally I'm a mainframe/CICS guy).
 
 
 
 
 
 The JRE installs without any problems; however, I'm having a bit of
 difficulty with the IBM Java 6.0-0.0 SDK installation for s390x on
 zLinux.
 
 The rpm states a dependency error with libstdc++.so.5 as well as
 libXp.so.5.
 
 I verified libstdc++.so.5 and libXp so.5 are both installed (through
 compat-libstdc++-295-2.9.5.3-81.s390x.rpm and I can't recall the libXp
 library).
 
 I then removed the JRE and attempted to install the SDK again.  No luck.
 If I extract the rpm directly everything seems to run fine.
 
 I'm using ibm-java-s390x-sdk-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm and
 ibm-java-s390x-jre-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm
 
 Anyone successfully installed the sdk here?

Where were those packages obtained from?  Your Linux distribution provider?  If 
so, which one?


Mark Post

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Re: zLinux IBM Java Install

2008-03-26 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS

We got them from here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html

However, we used the tgz file instead of the rpm.

Ron Foster
Baldor

Mark Post wrote:

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at  2:41 PM, in message


[EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin
R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm posting this for a colleague here, so hopefully the stuff below
makes sense (personally I'm a mainframe/CICS guy).





The JRE installs without any problems; however, I'm having a bit of
difficulty with the IBM Java 6.0-0.0 SDK installation for s390x on
zLinux.

The rpm states a dependency error with libstdc++.so.5 as well as
libXp.so.5.

I verified libstdc++.so.5 and libXp so.5 are both installed (through
compat-libstdc++-295-2.9.5.3-81.s390x.rpm and I can't recall the libXp
library).

I then removed the JRE and attempted to install the SDK again.  No luck.
If I extract the rpm directly everything seems to run fine.

I'm using ibm-java-s390x-sdk-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm and
ibm-java-s390x-jre-6.0-0.0.s390x.rpm

Anyone successfully installed the sdk here?



Where were those packages obtained from?  Your Linux distribution provider?  If 
so, which one?


Mark Post

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