RE: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Darran D. Rimron

> -Original Message-

> If you can manage to
> find a mono monitor or work out some way to connect it to a composite
> video monitor (unfortunately these cards don't have a direct composite
> output), I can send you a card...

If someone wants to cover postage, I have a mono monitor acting as my
footstool that I'm willing to give away in the progress of science,
development and strawberry jam.

I also bin something in the area of 20+ PC's a week because they are
either EISA and I don't have the disks or they are less than 486DX2/66
(our company spec for dumping machines at the moment, subject to change)
or because they are P60's. Perfect for "fast" elks testing if anyone
needs one. Or Two. Or Three

-Darran

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Re: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Alex Holden

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote:
> > Hmm..  I think a mono card costs about $7 now...
> Can't get them here for love or money as far as I can tell. I will be on
> the lookout for one though.

I have four. Three of them unused and in original packaging with manuals
(they were going for a couple of quid each at a surplus sale and I
couldn't resist). Unfortunately I only have one mono monitor, and have
never seen one for sale ever (the one I have came with an old 386 I
rescued from being thrown away a few years ago). If you can manage to
find a mono monitor or work out some way to connect it to a composite
video monitor (unfortunately these cards don't have a direct composite
output), I can send you a card...

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: Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham :
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RE: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Haerr

On Wednesday, September 29, 1999 3:25 PM, Thomas Stewart 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
: hi
: 
: I've got one of those T1200's, prity old, now if I remember right, when I 
: got it it had a, (deep breath) ms-dos programm that changed the settings 
: that one would usually change in the bois. God knows where the prog came 
: from, but if anyone is interested, give me a shout.
: 
I tried it.  That program (named test.com) allowed the bios
setting to change, but it was only active when MSDOS was running, so
it didn't work.



Re: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Gregory Leblanc

Is that the setup1.exe program?  I found a copy of the diag program on
Toshiba's site, but it doesn't come with the setup program.  I'd be
interested in getting a copy, to see if maybe I can figure out what
exactly it's doing.
Greg

Thomas Stewart wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> I've got one of those T1200's, prity old, now if I remember right, when I
> got it it had a, (deep breath) ms-dos programm that changed the settings
> that one would usually change in the bois. God knows where the prog came
> from, but if anyone is interested, give me a shout.
> 
> (It would be a waste of time, diging it up, finding the file, and then
> sending it to the list with hotmail's slow file attachment interface, if
> noboby wanted it)
> 
> tom
> 
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Re: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Thomas Stewart

hi

I've got one of those T1200's, prity old, now if I remember right, when I 
got it it had a, (deep breath) ms-dos programm that changed the settings 
that one would usually change in the bois. God knows where the prog came 
from, but if anyone is interested, give me a shout.

(It would be a waste of time, diging it up, finding the file, and then 
sending it to the list with hotmail's slow file attachment interface, if 
noboby wanted it)

tom

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RE: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Louis P. Santillan

While on the topic of Video Memory locations...does anybody have good docs
on RSIS (something that I just found in Undocumented PC, INT 0x10, AX =
0xFE00)?  I was able to move the VGA location from 0xA000:0 to 0x1000:0
(not quite useful their) though there seems no way to control this.  I
also tried moving 0xB000 and 0xB800 (in the appropiate modes) but to no
success.

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:

> 
> : That part of the process is now problem. The difficulty comes in writing a
> : driver which can talk to both cards at the same time.
> : 
>   what about using what someone suggested just changing
> 0xB800 to 0xB000 on the switch and leaving it at that, using exactly the same
> driver?
> 
> Greg
> 



Re: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Gregory Leblanc

I've read through the manual that shipped with it, and the doc from
Toshiba's site.  Here's the only file I've been able to find with useful
information on their site.

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/tais/csd/support/files/download/t1200.spc
I'll take another peek and see if they have anything else useful.  
Greg

Greg Haerr wrote:
> 
> >
> : > We need to turn off the T1200 auto-power-off mechanism, but I don't have
> : > a HW manual for the unit.
> : >
> : > Greg
> :
> : I have the original manuals that came with it here, if anybody wants
> : anything from them.
> 
> Find the hardware I/O port to disable auto-power off.



Re: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Alistair Riddoch

Greg Haerr writes:
> 
>  
> : Is it as simple as having a VGA card and a herc, and just writing to them
> : both separatly? I would have thought there would be problems with
> : initialising the hardware, and detecting which was present.
> 
>   I think it's this easy.  the bios in some location states whether
> there are one or two monitors...
> 
> 
> : 
> : If it is this simple, then adding dual monitor as an option to the dircon.c
> : driver should be quite easy. The only sticking point is that I don't have a
> : herc card, or a mono monitor.
> : 
>   Hmm..  I think a mono card costs about $7 now...
> 

Can't get them here for love or money as far as I can tell. I will be on
the lookout for one though.

Al



RE: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Haerr

> 
: > We need to turn off the T1200 auto-power-off mechanism, but I don't have
: > a HW manual for the unit.
: > 
: > Greg
: 
: I have the original manuals that came with it here, if anybody wants
: anything from them.

Find the hardware I/O port to disable auto-power off.



RE: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Haerr

 
: Is it as simple as having a VGA card and a herc, and just writing to them
: both separatly? I would have thought there would be problems with
: initialising the hardware, and detecting which was present.

I think it's this easy.  the bios in some location states whether
there are one or two monitors...


: 
: If it is this simple, then adding dual monitor as an option to the dircon.c
: driver should be quite easy. The only sticking point is that I don't have a
: herc card, or a mono monitor.
: 
Hmm..  I think a mono card costs about $7 now...

Greg



RE: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Haerr


: That part of the process is now problem. The difficulty comes in writing a
: driver which can talk to both cards at the same time.
: 
what about using what someone suggested just changing
0xB800 to 0xB000 on the switch and leaving it at that, using exactly the same
driver?

Greg



Re: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Gregory Leblanc

Greg Haerr wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:25 PM, Gregory Leblanc 
>[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> 
> Ah, the T1200.  I have one, and booted minix on it a while back,
> I think I tried ELKS as well.  It booted and ran for awhile, until the damned
> Toshiba auto-power-off mechanism kicked in.  then the screen went
> blank, and I couldn't get anything to happen until a full system reset
> followed by a reboot, then it repeated.
> 
> We need to turn off the T1200 auto-power-off mechanism, but I don't have
> a HW manual for the unit.
> 
> Greg

I have the original manuals that came with it here, if anybody wants
anything from them.
Greg



Re: Curses?

1999-09-29 Thread Benjamin C. W. Sittler

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Chris Starling wrote:

> Is anyone working on a curses library for ELKS?
> 
> Methinks this would be a very handy thing to have... it'd allow lots 
> of Linux console apps to run in ELKS that otherwise can't.  I wish I 
> had the C expertise to port ncurses myself...  *sigh*

I don't think ncurses is practical, given a 64k+64k address space shared
by the program and the library. You might take a look at PDcurses, it's a
much simpler curses clone.



Curses?

1999-09-29 Thread Chris Starling


Is anyone working on a curses library for ELKS?

Methinks this would be a very handy thing to have... it'd allow lots 
of Linux console apps to run in ELKS that otherwise can't.  I wish I 
had the C expertise to port ncurses myself...  *sigh*

-chris



RE: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Haerr

On Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:25 PM, Gregory Leblanc 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
: Just thought I'd see if there was anybody here, since I'm brand new to this.
: I'm hoping to get ELKS on my Toshiba T1200 notebook (8086-10, 640K ram, dual
: 720K floppies) and use it as a serial console for all of my nifty serial
: devices (hubs, routers, sun boxen, etc.)  Anybody tried anything similar
: yet?


Ah, the T1200.  I have one, and booted minix on it a while back,
I think I tried ELKS as well.  It booted and ran for awhile, until the damned
Toshiba auto-power-off mechanism kicked in.  then the screen went
blank, and I couldn't get anything to happen until a full system reset
followed by a reboot, then it repeated.

We need to turn off the T1200 auto-power-off mechanism, but I don't have
a HW manual for the unit.

Greg



Re: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Alistair Riddoch

Christopher Kovacs writes:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:22:00AM +0100, Alistair Riddoch wrote:
> > Thomas Stewart writes:
> > > Or is there a better way to use the two cards together? DOS does not do this 
> > > very well (appart from a few utills that switch the screen, and a few apps 
> > > that support it (tcc).)
> > 
> > There is no current support for this in the ELKS code, but it does appeal
> > to me. Any idea how it can be done at a low level anyone? If there is
> > source code available for the DOS software, then it could be ported.
> 
> There is no need for any trick - as far as I can recall, the only thing
> one has to is to address the vga's buffer at 0xb8000 and the herc's at
> 0xb. It can be done from any program.
> 
> mov ax, 0b000h
> push ax
> pop es
> mov es:[0], 030h
> mov ax, 0b800h
> push ax
> pop es
> mov es:[0], 031h
> ret
> 
> writes a '0' to the herc and a '1' to the vga.
> 
> Sorry if this was obivious to everyone.

Is it as simple as having a VGA card and a herc, and just writing to them
both separatly? I would have thought there would be problems with
initialising the hardware, and detecting which was present.

If it is this simple, then adding dual monitor as an option to the dircon.c
driver should be quite easy. The only sticking point is that I don't have a
herc card, or a mono monitor.

Al



Re: your mail

1999-09-29 Thread Alistair Riddoch

Luke writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:
> 
> > 
> > : > Or is there a better way to use the two cards together? DOS does not do this 
> > : > very well (appart from a few utills that switch the screen, and a few apps 
> > : > that support it (tcc).)
> > : 
> > : There is no current support for this in the ELKS code, but it does appeal
> > : to me. Any idea how it can be done at a low level anyone? If there is
> > : source code available for the DOS software, then it could be ported.
> > : 
> > I think the answer to this is that each virtual console needs to have
> > a pointer to it's screen driver code, where there's multiple screen drivers 
>running.
> > I don't know how you'd want to specify which VC gets VGA vs herc though...
> 
> Why not just have a /dev/2tty driver set for the new monitor and
> have init asign logins to /dev/tty and /dev/2tty?
> 

That part of the process is now problem. The difficulty comes in writing a
driver which can talk to both cards at the same time.

Al



RE: xf86setup not helping with SVGA Card

1999-09-29 Thread dbsaint

Did you check the HCL card list for xfree86 ? if its not supported you may be
out of luck with that card.. I'd suggest getting a S3 based card they seem to
be the most supported as well as many others like matrox cards. if you get a 4
MB card youll get better color anyways.. time for a small upgrade ?

cheers

Tony Hernandez
On 29-Sep-99 Ramana Tadepalli wrote:
> My SVGA card by Acer Labs ALI M3147V PC-Pnp Graphic Accelerator supports
> 
>* 1024x786 - upto 16bit
>* 800x600 and lower- upto 24bit
> 
> I have tried a lot to get similar results under Linux REDHAT 6.0. I get
> 4 bit pseudo color only .How do I go about with this. Someone please
> guide me.
> 
> Ramana Tadepalli

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xf86setup not helping with SVGA Card

1999-09-29 Thread Ramana Tadepalli


My SVGA card by Acer Labs ALI M3147V PC-Pnp
Graphic Accelerator supports


1024x786 - upto 16bit


800x600 and lower- upto 24bit

I have tried a lot to get similar results under Linux REDHAT 6.0. I get
4 bit pseudo color only .How do I go about with this. Someone please guide
me.
Ramana Tadepalli


RE: Anybody using this list?

1999-09-29 Thread Celley, Drew

> Just thought I'd see if there was anybody here, since I'm 
> brand new to this.
> I'm hoping to get ELKS on my Toshiba T1200 notebook (8086-10, 
> 640K ram, dual
> 720K floppies) and use it as a serial console for all of my 
> nifty serial
> devices (hubs, routers, sun boxen, etc.)  Anybody tried 
> anything similar
> yet?

a 720K floppy can contain DOS and Telix -- just enough to use the
serial port for such configs. This is just a suggestion, there's no reason
you *shouldn't* use linux anyway. Are there terminal-emmulation packages for
ELKS?