Re: mount through ssh
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Can any one tip me how can I open files on distant computer using ssh ? > > > > some kind of mount over tunnel ? > > There is a program called fsh to create a permanent ssh tunnel for use by > several ssh commands. I'm not sure exatctly if it any better then simply > using ssh. well, you need to use a TCP remote-mount protocol, one that works via a single port, or a final number of known ones, or socks, or samba? NFSv3-over-TCP? ftpfs? they all sound too weird and heavy. just set up a VPN (like CIPE or Swan) and use your favourint low-overhead protocol. > And there is, of course, sftp and scp. exactly... -- The Blair witch Ira Abramov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Great Kernel CVS Mutiny
> [ ... Really Long Letter Snipped ... ] Please refer to the following lecture, which talks about the engineering of Win2K: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix-win2000/invitedtalks/lucovsky_html/ I spotted the link thru a post Chen made to Hackers-IL, and it also appeared on the Joel-on-software site somewhat later. The Win2K codebase is even larger than Linux is (due to the fact that Win2K is something like the Linux kernel, glibc, X-Windows, Gtk+, and some other stuff all combined in a big mish-mash). Nonetheless, it does show how a team of programmers was able to grok a very large codebase. I believe that the way things are done in the kernel development have to change in many ways to make its maintainance more scalable and straightforward. There should be: 1. CVS. 2. Roadmaps for the next stable release - what goes in, what stays out, etc. 3. A general, short, manifesto that explains what Linus thinks the kernel should have and what not. (I.e: should it have a sound subsystem? Should it have GGI? Should it have an in-kernel GUI?). Just kidding about the GUI part. 4. Maintainers of different subsystems who may delegate authority to other people. 5. Making sure Linus need not be bothered with any little patch. Linus can read the CVS diffs if he'd like, but people can commit changes without asking him. 6. Defining well-defined interfaces for the subsystems to interact with each other, and explaining what should or should not be done. Did I miss anything? I believe what I proposed is better than the ways things are done now. Of course I recall the first rule of open-source programming: "Don't whine unless you are going to contribute". Which means that unless I'm going to act as a new and better Linus myself (at least until Linus OKs my suggestions), then I can't complain much. Maybe I'll join the lkml and try to change the system from within. (of course, I think I'll need to ask Orr Dunkelman for a dedicated account for that on vipe, because lkml happens to be quite high volume). Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew fonts under Mandrake X Server.
Thanks for the help Tzafrir, i have a windows partition and i used the "get windows fonts" feature in darkfont. i got the fonts you were talking about and configured KDE to use them in the KDE control center. but after all this i still cant see hebrew letters and surely cant write any.. so its like that: * got the hebrew fonts * the fonts configured in the mandrake control center - look & feel - fonts (if you know how it's looks like in madrake) but still, the issue didnt solved.. i read the iglu.org.il "hebrew under X" section 1,000,000 times and still, nothing wored. i understand you (Tzafrir) are the "Hebrew Under Linux" guru... :) This is your chance to prove it one more time with this wired problem :) Thanks in advance, Tizmoeye. On Friday 18 January 2002 06:58 pm, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, tizmoeye wrote: > > Hello, > > i am using mandrake 8.1 .. and i got a little big problem with the hebrew > > fonts under X.. > > i tired reading the instructions on the iglu.org.il site and didnt got a > > thing. > > i wanted to get in elmar.co.il to get some help there but it seems like > > the site is down.. and really down.. cuz i couldent get in there for > > something like 2 or 3 days.. > > Eli? > > Anyway, you (tizmoeye) needent bother. Grab the package > 'fonts-hebrew-elmar' from your nearby mandrake mirror (it is partof the > third CD) > > But if you have any windows partition, it is recommended to grab the > hebrew fonts from there (at least Times New Romas, Arial and Courier New). > You can do that either using drakfont, or by following the procedure > described in the FAQ. > > You also have the font "fixed", so at the moment you're not stuck without > any hebrew font avilable. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
delete and expunge..?
i am trying to make pine expunge a deleted mail immidiatly after its marked as deleted. didn't find an option in the configuration menu, and when i edited pinerc, there was a line that said "expunge without confirm",but nothing like "delete and expunge", is you get what i mean. did anyone ever managed to get that done ? this is pine 4.4.3 . -- --- _|_|_ Best Regard's , ( ) * Amir Tal, /v\ / System Administrator /( )X (m_m) | |ICQ : 15748705 | (_)_ __ | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | | | | |_| |> < |_)_|_|_| |_|__,_/_/\ http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Great Kernel CVS Mutiny
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about the need for a Great Kernel CVS Mutiny and since then things never were the same...: [... details were snipped ...] This is a classical problem of wanting to eat a cake and have it, too. We all want Linus to continue to lead the kernel development effort. But we want Linus to give professional attention to those patches, which he receives, and which deserve it. We also want to have heretic kernels - kernels, which got patches, which Linus didn't approve of or didn't even review. Simple forks won't do, because if a forked kernel diverges too far, then it'll be impossible to patch it with Linus-approved patches and vice versa. This is like the sterility of descendants of interbreeding, if their parents are too genetically different from each other. It would also be nice to be able to mix and match different patches to create kernels. For example, when there were two (or three?) different VM implementations floating around, it would have been nice to make them interchangeable (in the source code level) - selectable by means of a kernel compile-time configuration parameter. A solution, which will address the above concerns, will allow the Linux kernel to become a testbed for new OS innovations. If someone wants to try a novel filesystem, he can try to implement it on top of a reorganized Linux kernel. If someone else (probably Shlomi, who seems to be endless fountainhead of ideas) comes forth with a novel process scheduling algorithm, he can try it under realistic loads by plugging it into Linux kernel. This way, hacking Linux kernel will again become the fun it was in the days when the kernel was small and one could try a new thing without modifying a lot of the kernel; and didn't have to bother with managing a large software project. --- Omer There is no IGLU Cabal. It was going to require a 100,000,000 line long software package, and of course people DIED of drowning in all those pesky coordination-type details while trying to develop, perfect and maintain this monstrous but GREAT software package. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suse 7.3 pro and Suse email server.
hi all, i am looking to purchase those two.. for personal reasons, i don't want to do it directly from suse. if someone wants to sell, or let me d\l it from somewhere ;) i'll be glad to take him\her on their offer. please email me privately or call me at 058-978979. tal. -- --- _|_|_ Best Regard's , ( ) * Amir Tal, /v\ / System Administrator /( )X (m_m) | |ICQ : 15748705 | (_)_ __ | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | | | | |_| |> < |_)_|_|_| |_|__,_/_/\ http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew fonts under Mandrake X Server.
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, tizmoeye wrote: > Hello, > i am using mandrake 8.1 .. and i got a little big problem with the hebrew > fonts under X.. > i tired reading the instructions on the iglu.org.il site and didnt got a > thing. > i wanted to get in elmar.co.il to get some help there but it seems like the > site is down.. and really down.. cuz i couldent get in there for something > like 2 or 3 days.. Eli? Anyway, you (tizmoeye) needent bother. Grab the package 'fonts-hebrew-elmar' from your nearby mandrake mirror (it is partof the third CD) But if you have any windows partition, it is recommended to grab the hebrew fonts from there (at least Times New Romas, Arial and Courier New). You can do that either using drakfont, or by following the procedure described in the FAQ. You also have the font "fixed", so at the moment you're not stuck without any hebrew font avilable. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: turn off those ppp0-n
probably its as simple as: /bin/rm -rf /var/run/pptp/10.0.0.138 after each down procedure but you should really ought to read the HOWTO well and supply us with more details. for example, what version of pptp do you use and what error codes you recieve in /var/log/messages? which can simple be copy/paste to us using tail -50 /var/log/messages Don't worry we were all siners once but we repented and now we know better ;) * - * - * Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax (+1 Outside the US) 240-597-3213 * - * - * - * - * - * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nx Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: turn off those ppp0-n first i wanna 10Q 4 helping me with connecting my ADSL 2 the net now, i after i turn it off(the progs:pppd,pptp) i cant get it back on and i get in the ifconfig -a ppp0,ppp1 and so on they wont come off with the ifconfig pppn down what's the problem? PS how do i secure my box better? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hebrew fonts under Mandrake X Server.
Hello, i am using mandrake 8.1 .. and i got a little big problem with the hebrew fonts under X.. i tired reading the instructions on the iglu.org.il site and didnt got a thing. i wanted to get in elmar.co.il to get some help there but it seems like the site is down.. and really down.. cuz i couldent get in there for something like 2 or 3 days.. if someone could help me out intalling the fonts it would be great. thanks. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Konsole Hebrew - again (more details)
On 18 Jan 2002, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 14:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Typing Hebrew should be as usual (no question marks, but no BiDi either > - Konsole is not a BiDi console). [If that is what you want, try either 'biditext konsole' or try the xterm with the i18n patch (like the one than comes with mandrake 8.1)] -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Great Kernel CVS Mutiny
linuxppc uses BitKeeper also. DaveM (Sparc, Networking maintainer) uses CVS. Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Heard about BitKeeper? > > Ingo uses it, as well as other people. > > Linus is actually thinking to use it once larry mcvoy will finish > implementing some features (other people who use it are RedHat, IBM among > others) > > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew with Grip
On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 03:10, Amichai Rotman wrote: > In a console, I su'ed, entered 'set LC_ALL=he_IL' and than ran grip. No > effect... What is 'set LC_ALL=he_IL' supposed to do? What shell you're in? In csh, use: setenv LC_ALL he_IL xchat In bash, use: export LC_ALL=he_IL xchat or: LC_ALL=he_IL xchat And why did you 'su root' to do those things? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Great Kernel CVS Mutiny
Heard about BitKeeper? Ingo uses it, as well as other people. Linus is actually thinking to use it once larry mcvoy will finish implementing some features (other people who use it are RedHat, IBM among others) Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Great Kernel CVS Mutiny
I've just been to Moshe Bar's lecture, which was an excellent lecture. One of the things that were said in the beginning is that Linus Torvalds has become inefficient in accepting important patches made to the kernel. For instance, Moshe said that he has cron job that sends a group of patches to Linus every week. Linus has prepared a procmail rule to throw it to the garbage. And naturally, he refuses to use CVS, which makes it hard on everybody. I always thought it was not good that Linux is not managed with a CVS server. But the situation as it is calls for immidiate action. That's why I'm organizing "The Great Linux Kernel CVS Mutiny". I call for a benevolent developer to place the source code of the Linux kernel in CVS, and for all developers who has nothing against CVS to use it to maintain their code. When Torvalds releases patches those patches (or their aprpropirate portions) will be applied to the CVS tree. We can call this tree the linux-2.5.x-cvs tree... ;-) Now, even if Mr. Torvalds frowns upon this methdology, the other developers will still have the benefit of not having to cope with his caprices. I can testify that CVS is a great tool and one wonders how he lived without it. I used CVS for my IP-Noise project (which eventually produced a Linux kernel module) and am using it now for doing my homework in the Technion "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" course. I believe Linus Torvalds will not regret it, if he switches to CVS. However, I don't think we should suffer because of his unwillingness to reach this conclusion on his own. Please propogate this message further. Regards, Shlomi Fish P.S: Note that I'm not raising the CVS it myself because: 1. I'm not an expert kernel developers. 2. I have better things to do than to become a part of the core Linux kernel team. 3. I believe I'm still entitled to make important suggestions for re-organization. -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Konsole Hebrew - again (more details)
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 14:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't know what I'm missing, but Hebrew **seems** to be set up since I can
> see and type Hebrew in other KDE applications - for instance KMail and KWrite
> using iso8859-8 fonts. But, I can't see the Hebrew fonts in Konsole. The
> problem is somehow related to fonts aand not to typing or the keyboard, because
> even if I cut Hebrew from KWrite and paste it into Konsole, I still get
> question marks instead of Hebrew. When I try to select a Hebrew font in
> Konsole. I get a partially giibberish error message saying the font doesn't
> exist - which makes little sense since I'm choosing from a menu of fonts that
> presumably do exist and do support Hebrew.
Step 1. Switch the running Konsole to UTF-8 mode.
On Debian, that can be done by running "konsole-utf8 on" from inside the
shell (that'll need to be done for every shell you run, so you might as
well put it in your shell's startup file).
Other distros might've placed this file under a different name ("rpm -ql
konsole | grep bin" might give you a clue about the installed Konsole
utilities).
Step 2. If the target app (e.g. sendsms) excepts ISO-8858-8 (Logical)
encoded text, use something like:
iconv -f UTF-8 -t ISO-8859-8 | sendsms ...
Typing Hebrew should be as usual (no question marks, but no BiDi either
- Konsole is not a BiDi console).
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Re: Hebrew in Konqueror
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 08:03, Zvi Har'El wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Ely Levy wrote: > > > yes > > A better answer would be: It depends on the encoding. E.g., UTF-8 doesn't work. Sure it does. http://www.galanet.net/~future/test.html Konqueror in KDE3 (still in alpha stages) would also write Hebrew correctly in text input boxes etc. but that's a different story. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup solution with a web based interface?
hetz, knowing you, you probebly wont like this solution ;) but webmin has a nice backup system, with a nice gui. the only problem is that you have to have root access in order to get into webmin (port 1) and i guess you don't want that. i saw somewhere at the webmin homepage that there will be an option to get some of the modules as stand-alone, without the whole pack. i dont know if that was implemented yet, check ti for yourself if you can get pass the root access problem,maybe that will work for you. see http://www.webmin.com tal. On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:48:26 +0200 > From: Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Backup solution with a web based interface? > > Hi People, > > I wonder if anyone knows about a good Linux backup solution with web based > interface, so non Linux users can setup the backup (scheduling, what to back > etc...) > > During last few days, I was talking to a few Ad agencies offices who > expressed an interest in Linux as file servers (to windows as SMB and to Macs > with NetaTalk), but needed a friendly interfaces for tasks like backup, mail > etc... > > With mail I found a solution, but for a backup - so far I didn't find > something smart, friendly, and most important - stable - open source or > commercial... > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- --- _|_|_ Best Regard's , ( ) * Amir Tal, /v\ / System Administrator /( )X (m_m) | |ICQ : 15748705 | (_)_ __ | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | | | | |_| |> < |_)_|_|_| |_|__,_/_/\ http://whatsup.homelinux.com --- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backup solution with a web based interface?
Hi People, I wonder if anyone knows about a good Linux backup solution with web based interface, so non Linux users can setup the backup (scheduling, what to back etc...) During last few days, I was talking to a few Ad agencies offices who expressed an interest in Linux as file servers (to windows as SMB and to Macs with NetaTalk), but needed a friendly interfaces for tasks like backup, mail etc... With mail I found a solution, but for a backup - so far I didn't find something smart, friendly, and most important - stable - open source or commercial... Suggestions? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: access problem
Tal, run a sniffer on both client and the server. There is a win32 port for ethereal . Dani On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:07:46 +0200 (EET) > > > From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > >the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: access problem > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > > > > > > telnet your-server 110 > > > > > > > > > > If and when a (tcp) connection is established, try writing the following: > > > > > > > > > > USER username > > > > > PASS topsecretpasswordinplaintext > > > > > QUIT > > > > > > > > telnet to port's 110 and 25 works. only mail clients cant get to > > > > authonticate. this is the most wierd part (?!) > > > > > > telnet - ok. but did you try doing the rest of what tzafrir suggested - > > > i.e. actually emulating an email client over this connection? please > > > answer with 'yes, and it worked, and i managed to login to port 110 after > > > supplying a valid user and password', or say 'yes, i tried, but it failed > > > with this and that error message', or say 'no, i didn't try, i will try > > > now'. > > > > thanks for the options..what would i do without you ? ;) > > telnet to port 110 works and authonticates (25 as well) > > with a client - nothing. > > so this is not a closed port\service problem. > > > > > > > > > > > there ARE NO internal interfaces. > > > > 1 interface (eth0) with 1 real ip. this machine is in a dmz, and the > > > > firewall translates everything to it. this is why its accesible from both > > > > internal and external locations, and vice versa (it can access NAT > > > > addresses). > > How exactly can it access NAT addresses if it is outside the NAT? How are > packets from the server to NAT clients routed? > > > right, but there is a minimal sence of logic in what you try. > > and yes - netstat shows the connection ONLY if i try to connect directly > > to the port via telnet. > > it shows nothing when accessing with a client. > > Note that a sniffer (like tcpdump) may be able to give you more > information. Is it possible that the connections of the mail clients are > started, but don't get passed the hand-shaking? > > Netstat won't show you this (it only shows established connections and > outgoin connections) but tcpdump will show you the packets of this failed > attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > Use netstat -ln --tcp and see if any service listens on an address that is > > > > > not 0.0.0.0 (=all interfaces). > > > > > > that's what tzafrir said - i keep the quote in case you lost the former > > > message. > > > > > > > > * Do packets from the clients get to the server? > > > > > Use tcpdump or any other sniffer. This could be a DNS problem or a routing > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > no routing problem. as i said, i can ping it from the internal LAN. > > > > also from outside. > > > > this is not the problem. > > > > > > > correct, but it tells you if there is some kind of a block (route, > > firewall or whatever) between you and that machine. > > if you cant ping it, there is not much change that anything else will get > > there. > > > > Please re-read the following: > > > > > > did you check what tzafrir suggested? he didn't say its a routing problem, > > > or anything else. pings does not tell you much, other then the fact that > > > ping works. it doesn't tell you if other protocols have any problems. > > Have you totally eliminated DNS issues? Do Is the mail client configured > with an IP address? > > > > > > > > > > > * Have you looked at the logs? Any connection attempts logged? > > > > > > > > > another thing i forgot to mention : syslogd is running but not logging > > > > anything. the last log entry is at the same date when the hard reset > > > > acourd. i dont think that there is a connection, but go figure.. > > > > > > i would suggest you try to solve this problem - having working logs is a > > > good start to finding what's wrong, in case the imap server or pop server > > > or any other server is trying to log anything. > > > > > > chekc that you havea /etc/syslogd.conf file, and that it is properly > > > configured (i know "i haven't changed anything" - but when nothing realy > > > changes, things keep on working. if they don't - something was changed, > > > regardless of how it was changed - by manual editing, by file (system) > > > corruption, or anything else. > > And if this fails, stop sysklogd, and run 'syslogd -d' (see syslogd (8)) > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen/"\ > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
Konsole Hebrew - again (more details)
I'm sorry to ask this again, but I'm about ready to give up, and want to give it one last try :-). I've read all the Hebrew related files on IGLU, looked at the KDE Hebrew pages, and exchanged ideas with a couple of people off the list, and I still can't see Hebrew fonts in KDE Konsole. In case I wasn't clear enough about this before, I don't want to run a Hebrew aware application (editor, etc) from Konsole. I know how to do this. And I don't want to run Hebrew on a different tty. What I want is to type Hebrew on the KDE Konsole command line itself. In case anyone wonders why, I just traded my Cellcom for one that can also receive Hebrew SMS so I want to use the SMS script with a Hebrew message as a parameter on the command line. I don't know what I'm missing, but Hebrew **seems** to be set up since I can see and type Hebrew in other KDE applications - for instance KMail and KWrite using iso8859-8 fonts. But, I can't see the Hebrew fonts in Konsole. The problem is somehow related to fonts aand not to typing or the keyboard, because even if I cut Hebrew from KWrite and paste it into Konsole, I still get question marks instead of Hebrew. When I try to select a Hebrew font in Konsole. I get a partially giibberish error message saying the font doesn't exist - which makes little sense since I'm choosing from a menu of fonts that presumably do exist and do support Hebrew. I'm **almost** sure that this has only been a problem since I updated from Mandrake 8.0 to 8.1 (Konsole 1.0.2 on KDE 2.2.1). I'm quite sure Hebrew worked in Konsole before the upgrade. TIA //- Shlomo Solomon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Date: 18-Jan-2002 Time: 12:00:34 Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 8.1 machine //- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
conclusion of a long night- access problem
guys, some things just have their way of working themselvs out sometimes. it's a dumb thing to say when dealing with system administration, but in this case, this is what happened. i gave up on trying last night after almost 7 hours of attempts and RTFMing, got up this morning, logged into my workstation at work, and everything simply worked ! don't ask me how. i wish i could paste some of the log's here (if there were any) to tell you all what was the problem, but as you know syslogd got screwed up as well, and logged nothing. anyway, we decided to give up on the exchange machine and install Linux on the machine it was running on instead (damm powerful one). so i will start building a new mail server from scratch next weekend, and pray that the old one will make it through this week. thank you all for the time you took to help me out ;) tal. On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:48:56 +0200 (IST) > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: access problem > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:07:46 +0200 (EET) > > > From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > >the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: access problem > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > > > > > > telnet your-server 110 > > > > > > > > > > If and when a (tcp) connection is established, try writing the following: > > > > > > > > > > USER username > > > > > PASS topsecretpasswordinplaintext > > > > > QUIT > > > > > > > > telnet to port's 110 and 25 works. only mail clients cant get to > > > > authonticate. this is the most wierd part (?!) > > > > > > telnet - ok. but did you try doing the rest of what tzafrir suggested - > > > i.e. actually emulating an email client over this connection? please > > > answer with 'yes, and it worked, and i managed to login to port 110 after > > > supplying a valid user and password', or say 'yes, i tried, but it failed > > > with this and that error message', or say 'no, i didn't try, i will try > > > now'. > > > > thanks for the options..what would i do without you ? ;) > > telnet to port 110 works and authonticates (25 as well) > > with a client - nothing. > > so this is not a closed port\service problem. > > > > > > > > > > > there ARE NO internal interfaces. > > > > 1 interface (eth0) with 1 real ip. this machine is in a dmz, and the > > > > firewall translates everything to it. this is why its accesible from both > > > > internal and external locations, and vice versa (it can access NAT > > > > addresses). > > How exactly can it access NAT addresses if it is outside the NAT? How are > packets from the server to NAT clients routed? > > > right, but there is a minimal sence of logic in what you try. > > and yes - netstat shows the connection ONLY if i try to connect directly > > to the port via telnet. > > it shows nothing when accessing with a client. > > Note that a sniffer (like tcpdump) may be able to give you more > information. Is it possible that the connections of the mail clients are > started, but don't get passed the hand-shaking? > > Netstat won't show you this (it only shows established connections and > outgoin connections) but tcpdump will show you the packets of this failed > attempt. > > > > > > > > > > > Use netstat -ln --tcp and see if any service listens on an address that is > > > > > not 0.0.0.0 (=all interfaces). > > > > > > that's what tzafrir said - i keep the quote in case you lost the former > > > message. > > > > > > > > * Do packets from the clients get to the server? > > > > > Use tcpdump or any other sniffer. This could be a DNS problem or a routing > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > no routing problem. as i said, i can ping it from the internal LAN. > > > > also from outside. > > > > this is not the problem. > > > > > > > correct, but it tells you if there is some kind of a block (route, > > firewall or whatever) between you and that machine. > > if you cant ping it, there is not much change that anything else will get > > there. > > > > Please re-read the following: > > > > > > did you check what tzafrir suggested? he didn't say its a routing problem, > > > or anything else. pings does not tell you much, other then the fact that > > > ping works. it doesn't tell you if other protocols have any problems. > > Have you totally eliminated DNS issues? Do Is the mail client configured > with an IP address? > > > > > > > > > > > * Have you looked at the logs? Any connection attempts logged? > > > > > > > > > another thing i forgot to mention : syslogd is running but not logging > > > > anything. the last log entry is at the same date when the hard reset > > > > acourd. i dont think t
