RE: Complaining and Solving Problems of the Nvidia Drivers

2004-01-04 Thread Iftach Hyams
Intel chipsets (like 855) include 3D enabled chip and
the documentation can be found in their site. It is low-end
as far as 3D OpenGL (and things like lighting aren't implemented
in hardware). They will have a new chip in couple of months
with better architecture, but still, it leaves you with
the whole chipsets.





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Re: Barak Cables over PPTP

2004-01-04 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 04 January 2004 07:02, Ittay Dror wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm trying to setup a dialer to Barak over PPTP (and Ethernet). Does
 someone have a ready-made script (for Mandrake 9.1) so that I don't have
 to mess with it myself? Also, instructions for how to make a connection
 sharing (not a gw) so another computer can use its own dialer will be
 appriciated.

try DrakConnect. it does ok in 9.2, I have no reason to believe it won't be ok 
for 9.1. you might need to update your PPTP client though.

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Re: Barak Cables over PPTP

2004-01-04 Thread Ez-Aton
You could find something you can work with (it's written to RH9, but will work 
with Mandrake too, as far as I know) at 
http://www.iarc.org/~ezaton/cables
There are instructions, and a script, adjusted to Actcom, but you could adjust 
it easilly to any ISP you want.

Ez.

On Sunday 04 January 2004 07:02, Ittay Dror wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm trying to setup a dialer to Barak over PPTP (and Ethernet). Does
 someone have a ready-made script (for Mandrake 9.1) so that I don't have
 to mess with it myself? Also, instructions for how to make a connection
 sharing (not a gw) so another computer can use its own dialer will be
 appriciated.

 Thanx,
 Ittay


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Re: convmv

2004-01-04 Thread Bjoern JACKE
On 2003-12-31 at 17:14 +0200 Chaim Keren Tzion sent off:
It was suggested that I send you this report of my experience with convmv.
Thanks for a great tool!
I tried 'convmv' and it worked great. One point to be aware of: I had two 
directory structures and it seems that one was in cp862 and one was in iso-
8859-8. At first I ran the same command on both directories:
convmv -r -f cp862 -t utf8 --nfc directory1
That worked fine for the cp862 encoded directory but it messed up the iso-
8859-8

It means it's not that smart. I suggest you report it to the author.
IMO, it should have done nothing.
Thanks for that feedback!
That's normal however. Smartness can only be achieved when some files 
are already utf-8 encoded. Smartness does not mean that convmv has a 
christal ball implemented ;-). 8-bit encodings can not be guessed, 
just a human being can see how the files are ocnverted correct. But 
that's also wh convmv by defaults does *nothing* and an additional 
--notest is needed to *do* somthing.

Cheers
Bjoern


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Fwd: Re: convmv

2004-01-04 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion

Here is the responce that I got from the creator of convmv regarding the
inability of the utility to autodetect encoding types.

Didi,
Maybe you want to contact him directly if you know how he can implement some
auto detection, or otherwise improve the utility. 

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On 2003-12-31 at 17:14 +0200 Chaim Keren Tzion sent off:
It was suggested that I send you this report of my experience with convmv.
Thanks for a great tool!

 I tried 'convmv' and it worked great. One point to be aware of: I had two 
 directory structures and it seems that one was in cp862 and one was in iso-
 8859-8. At first I ran the same command on both directories:
 convmv -r -f cp862 -t utf8 --nfc directory1
 That worked fine for the cp862 encoded directory but it messed up the iso-
8859-8

It means it's not that smart. I suggest you report it to the author.
IMO, it should have done nothing.

Thanks for that feedback!
That's normal however. Smartness can only be achieved when some files 
are already utf-8 encoded. Smartness does not mean that convmv has a 
christal ball implemented ;-). 8-bit encodings can not be guessed, 
just a human being can see if the files are converted correctly. But 
that's also why convmv by defaults does *nothing* and an additional 
--notest is needed to *do* somthing.

Cheers
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Re: Fwd: Re: convmv

2004-01-04 Thread Amichai Rotman
Chaim,

Did you check the encoding bits on in the /etc/fstab file?

What if you change it from MDKs default cp850 (for mounted Windows 
partitions) to iso8859-8 or iso8859-8-I, not UTF8.

Amichai.

On Sunday 04 January 2004 13:53, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote:
 Here is the responce that I got from the creator of convmv regarding
 the inability of the utility to autodetect encoding types.

 Didi,
 Maybe you want to contact him directly if you know how he can
 implement some auto detection, or otherwise improve the utility.

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Thursday 01 January 2004 21:01, Shlomi Fish wrote:

 Now, some arguments were made that because a business gets a software for
 free, he will expect the hackers who have to make it work, to work very
 cheaply as well. 

No they don't.

Businesses are happy to pay to get gurantees, results, hand holding and just 
plain to have someone else deal with the whole thing - sometime they KNOW how 
to download, compile and install and debug but just don't want to spend their 
time doing it. They want to spend their time dealing with the business.

Business people don't care if the money paid is called licesense fees or 
support - which means hackers can charge MORE for supporting Free Software 
then proprietry one.

As the the sloagn on Codefidence's web site reads:

The Code is Free. Your time isn't.

:-)


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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Re: The Proliferation of Linux and 
its Effect on Programmers:
 On Thursday 01 January 2004 21:01, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 
  Now, some arguments were made that because a business gets a software for
  free, he will expect the hackers who have to make it work, to work very
  cheaply as well. 
 
 No they don't.
 
 Businesses are happy to pay to get gurantees, results, hand holding and just 
 plain to have someone else deal with the whole thing - sometime they KNOW how 

Let me give an example from another field.

Law practice can appear free. Some level of law knowledge can be gleaned
from free sources (such as watching The Practice and Law and Order on
TV :)), and better knowledge can come from relatively cheap sources
(such as going to a law library and reading books). A company facing a multi-
million dollar deal and that needs to write a contract without any gaping
holes (a.k.a. lacunas), can indeed go to a kid who watches too much TV and
ask him to write a contract. Most likely the resulting contract would be
decent-looking (hey, even kids have spell-checkers these days), but will
be riddled with problems and irrelevant concepts (no, the fourth amendment
has nothing to do with corporate law, and you don't write objection! in
a contract). So the company prefers to pay hard cash to a good lawyer with
a good reputation and a lot of experience, to lower the risk of botching
up the deal. Like most things in life, the amount of money you're willing
to pay is proprtional to the risk you're trying to avert (or the profit
you're trying to make), so nobody will be afraid to pay $100,000 to the
lawyers orchestrating a $10 million deal, even if it's just 2 days of
work (and many times, it isn't).

Similarly, if some free software program is an important part of your
company's product, and some certain fix is important to you, you have
the choice to approach your neighbor's kid (who just learned C last month,
and has an A+ in science in school!) and ask him to fix the problem. Another
possibility is to pay (say) $10,000 to some reputable programmer, and ask
him to fix the problem. If $1,000,000 of revenues are riding on this fix,
which of the options do you think a company will take? Companies aren't as
greedy as you think - they will gladly exchange a small part of the profit
for a large increase in certainty.

Last year we had a similar discussion on this list, on why anybody should
higher expensive free-software consultants, when they could just get help
from people on the Internet and write questions on mailing lists like this
one. Here is what I wrote then:
http://harel.org.il/nadav/homepage/musing/consultvsinet

P.S. Because the law itself is free (in the sense of freedom) and everybody
can practice law (to some degree or another), it is easy to pretend to know
the law. Because bad law practice can cause serious harm to people, laws
exist in most countries dictating what you must study and which tests you
must pass in order to pass yourself as a lawyer. The same thing happened
for doctors. Maybe one day we'll see a programmers guild, deciding who
can be called a programmer?

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Re: Lyx and HTML output

2004-01-04 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 10:59:01AM +0200, Voguemaster wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone have any experience with exporting HTML from Lyx ?
 
 I'm trying to export an article I wrote that contains some math expressions
 and none of them show up in the output HTML.
 
 Am I missing something here ? Am I missing some component that I am
 not aware of ?
 After all, I've seen HTML pages with math, it *should* work.
 

Lyx uses the tth package by default to build the html, the problem with
that is that it tries to build the equations as text instead of
graphics (since it doesn't use latex as a backend).
Try using latex2html istead. It converts the math into images and thus
shows it better (don't know how they compare in quality but it seems
that for anything other then very simple math tth does produce
satisfactory output).

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Aviram Jenik
  On Thursday 01 January 2004 21:01, Shlomi Fish wrote:
   Now, some arguments were made that because a business gets a software
   for free, he will expect the hackers who have to make it work, to work
   very cheaply as well.
 

 Let me give an example from another field.

 (snipped example about law practice)

I think Nadav's example is a great analogy. Let me throw in my 2 cents as 
well.
I believe most businesses know open source software isn't free (as in beer), 
there is always a cost. However, if the cost is cheaper than closed-source 
software (for any reason), they will opt to use it.

Therefore, as long as the OS programmers don't charge so much as to make it 
more expensive than the alternative, it still makes business sense to use OS 
programs. For example, if I am Honda, and my options are using WinCE or Linux 
for my car computer, I assume I will save a lot by not paying per-seat 
license for the software.
Assume a WinCE license costs Honda $1, and Honda makes 1M computer-enabled 
cars a year, if the additional work required for migrating to Linux is less 
than $1M, than it makes business sense to migrate.

I don't think Izik Cohen has suddenly become an FOSS fanatic. Also, I *know* 
he doesn't think open office comes with no cost. However, he made the 
calculation and came to the conclusion that with the current Windows+Office 
prices, the Ministry is better off developing an alternative. The same goes 
for Japanese car manufacturers, etc, etc.


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Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All

Im looking for a good mailing list / newsletter server that support DB (
MySQL or even better Postgresql ).

Currently I use mailman but I don't like its admin tools, I want the Admin
to easily manipulate the list using HTML Interface against DB ( ill do it
differently on each project ) while the process of sending / authoring the
emails will be handled by the mailinglist / newsletter program.

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
OG Most of the reports I've seen make an unattributed (editorial?)
OG statement that our Treasury is after Thai-style discounts on MSOffice
OG more than after FLOSS or open standards. Can anyone in the know
OG confirm or deny this?

I cannot do either, but, logically thinking, I would not be surprised if
it was true. After all, one of the duties of the Treasury - ideally - is
to make government services to do most with least possible budget. If they
can get this done by scaring Microsoft into large discounts - very good
(for them). It is not their direct duty to support open source movement.

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Re: Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ben-Nes Michael wrote:

Hi All

Im looking for a good mailing list / newsletter server that support DB (
MySQL or even better Postgresql ).
Currently I use mailman but I don't like its admin tools, I want the Admin
to easily manipulate the list using HTML Interface against DB ( ill do it
differently on each project ) while the process of sending / authoring the
emails will be handled by the mailinglist / newsletter program.
Thanks
 

ezmlm has an option for that, but I have never tried that myself.

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

Most of the reports I've seen make an unattributed (editorial?)
statement that our Treasury is after Thai-style discounts on MSOffice
more than after FLOSS or open standards. Can anyone in the know
confirm or deny this?
 

I am somewhat in the know. I can confirm or deny it, if you like.

Shachar

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Re: Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 07:14:34PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 Hi All
 
 Im looking for a good mailing list / newsletter server that support DB (
 MySQL or even better Postgresql ).
 
 Currently I use mailman but I don't like its admin tools, I want the Admin
 to easily manipulate the list using HTML Interface against DB ( ill do it
 differently on each project ) while the process of sending / authoring the
 emails will be handled by the mailinglist / newsletter program.

Why do you want to use a DB? Performance issues? Anything else?

Have you tried using mailman's command-line tools for administration?

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rpm and mandrake

2004-01-04 Thread Aaron
Hi all,
I just installed rpmbuild on mandrake 9.2, but the SOURCE RPM BUILD etc 
directories don't exist. I tried adding them manually but rpmbuild won't 
recognize them.
How do I set up rpmbuild so I can create an rpm from a tar?
Thanks
Aaron

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Debian support from HP

2004-01-04 Thread Lior Kaplan



Hi,

A short while ago there was news from HP about upgrading their 
support in Debian.
Did anyone experienced it in Israel?


I know HP handout RH to people which think Linux for 
enterprise and Mandrake for others (saw a post on whatsup I think). But I didn't hear about Debian I'm very interested in 
it.
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Re: Fwd: Re: convmv

2004-01-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 02:13:59PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 Chaim,
 
 Did you check the encoding bits on in the /etc/fstab file?
 
 What if you change it from MDKs default cp850 (for mounted Windows 
 partitions) to iso8859-8 or iso8859-8-I, not UTF8.

I think you onfuse here two things. Recall that vfat takes two seperate
encoding parameters:

  codepage=[dos encding]

This is the encoding of the DOS names (the original 8.3 short names).
For Hebrew you better use cp862. But then again, you hardly use those
names.

  utf8|iocharset=[encoding]

vfat always keeps the long name in UTF-16 . This parameter controls how
to show those strings. If you use anything other than UTF-8 you have a
chance of missing characters. But anyway, You can freely use here 
cp1255, iso8859-8 and utf8 . 

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Yishay Mor
Does this help?

http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=375875contrassID=2subContrassID=6sbSubContrassID=0

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

I don't think Izik Cohen has suddenly become an FOSS fanatic. Also,
I *know* he doesn't think open office comes with no cost. However,
he made the calculation and came to the conclusion that with the
current Windows+Office prices, the Ministry is better off developing
an alternative.
   

Most of the reports I've seen make an unattributed (editorial?)
statement that our Treasury is after Thai-style discounts on MSOffice
more than after FLOSS or open standards. Can anyone in the know
confirm or deny this?
 

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Re: The Proliferation of Linux and its Effect on Programmers

2004-01-04 Thread Oded Arbel
  04  2004, 18:56,Oleg Goldshmidt:
 A more realistic example: if I am BMW and my iDrive system in the 700
 series runs on Windows and keeps crashing then I have to factor the
 cost of crashes (in fixes, recalls, returns, lost customers, lost
 reputation, etc) when I consider switching to linux (while assuming
 that Linux-based iDrive won't crash all that much, of course).

Except that most buisness decision makers aren't developers by training, or 
system administrators or even semi-technical people at all. as such they 
often fail to factor in real costs such as:
- developers' down time due to system failures or lack of documentation.
- system down time due to required upgrades or security patches to operating 
system.

Because they are so used to having their home computers down for days as a 
result of viruses and spontaneus system crashes, managers cannot even 
entertain the possibility that there are better alternatives. 
When you come up to an IT manager and tell him - my software has a 99.999% 
uptime, he might believe you but he considers this as the figure w/o 
factoring in the above mentioned problems which are never factored. its 
impossible to explain this to people who do not have technical know how 
themselves.

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Re: rpm and mandrake

2004-01-04 Thread Diego Iastrubni
read this,

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/RpmHowTo

and dont build rpms as root. I tell you this from experience

 , 4  2004, 19:47,Aaron:
 Hi all,
 I just installed rpmbuild on mandrake 9.2, but the SOURCE RPM BUILD etc
 directories don't exist. I tried adding them manually but rpmbuild won't
 recognize them.
 How do I set up rpmbuild so I can create an rpm from a tar?
 Thanks
 Aaron

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Re: Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Eli Marmor
Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 Im looking for a good mailing list / newsletter server that support DB (
 MySQL or even better Postgresql ).
 
 Currently I use mailman but I don't like its admin tools, I want the Admin
 to easily manipulate the list using HTML Interface against DB ( ill do it
 differently on each project ) while the process of sending / authoring the
 emails will be handled by the mailinglist / newsletter program.

By the way, I'm looking for a similar thing, but based on XML. I prefer
a *NATIVE* XML database (why? completely off-topic, and too complex to
explain here). I want it to be able to receive messages from either e-
mail (mailing list), NNTP (newsgroups), or web forum/bulletin-board,
and to send to all of them (resembling Unified Messaging...).

I'm looking for an XML schema or DTD to serve this purpose. It should
support at least the following fields: Subject (or Title), Author (or
From), Body, Date (including time/hour), ID, Attachment, and
Children nodes (with the same defined fields).

(it's much more than RSS)

Other useful fields, such as type (text/plain/html/etc.), Reply-To,
language, and CC, might be an advantage.

I can invent a new Schema, but I prefer to take an existing one,
because if there is one, it probably has already many existing XSLT
scripts, which will save me a lot of work in the future. And this will
also save the need to insist upon a system that supports web-based
forums (because with an existing schema, you get many XSLT scripts, so
you get the web-based interface as a by product).

By the way: does anybody has any experience with eXist? dbXML? Xindice?
DB XML?

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Re: rpm and mandrake

2004-01-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 07:47:23PM +0200, Aaron wrote:
 Hi all,
 I just installed rpmbuild on mandrake 9.2, but the SOURCE RPM BUILD etc 
 directories don't exist. I tried adding them manually but rpmbuild won't 
 recognize them.
 How do I set up rpmbuild so I can create an rpm from a tar?
 Thanks

You can create the required directories and minimal .rpmmacros using the
script:

  http://iglu.org.il/~tzafrir/mkrpmconf

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X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Lior Kaplan



Hi All,

Any recommendations on X server for windows?
I'd like to set some X forwarding.

I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as 
in beer...).

Thanks,

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Eli Marmor
CYGWIN.
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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 09:34:05PM +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
 
Hi All,
 
 
 
Any recommendations on X server for windows?
 
I'd like to set some X forwarding.
 
 
 
I  saw  some  commercial  solutions,  but I need something free (as in
beer...).

The Xserver of cygwin works quite well and is probably the best free one.
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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 09:34:05PM +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Any recommendations on X server for windows?
 I'd like to set some X forwarding.
 
 I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in beer...).

XFree is part of cygwin (http://cygwin.com/ , a.k.a.
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ )

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Lior Kaplan
It seems that cygwin is a unanimous answer... thanks.

Regards,

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Subject: Re: X Server for windows


 On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 09:34:05PM +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Any recommendations on X server for windows?
  I'd like to set some X forwarding.
 
  I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in
beer...).

 XFree is part of cygwin (http://cygwin.com/ , a.k.a.
 http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ )

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Re: Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Eli Marmor
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 There is one resonable mailing list archiver that uses XML files for
 storage. No DB is used, AFAIK.
 
   http://lurker.sourceforge.net/

Thanks.
Well, sort of uses XML:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/lurker/lurker/FAQ?rev=1.10view=auto

(see the question before the last)

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Re: Mailing List and DB

2004-01-04 Thread Eli Marmor
Eli Marmor wrote:
 
 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
  ...
 
 ...
 

Oops...
Had to be direct to Tzafrir, not through the list...

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Lior Kaplan wrote:

It seems that cygwin is a unanimous answer... thanks.

Regards,
 

Cygwin is the best free (either one) option. It does suffer from one 
fundemental problem - it must use a virtual screen mode. This means 
that xfree opens a Windows window, and all X-Windows live inside that space.

Commercial X-Server usually also carry an integrated mode, in which the 
X windows are opened as Windows windows, and the usual windows 
decorations are the X-Windows window manager (ok kids - see if you can 
count how many times the word windows appeared twice consecutively in 
this sentance :-).

Depending on your use type, you may find the later more convinent. For 
example, I usually ssh (via putty or other) to the remote machine, and 
only run more serious X applications on my desktop. Under this case, 
it's usually easier to be able to minimize individual X windows into the 
task bar. Unfortunetly, no free server allows that, that I'm aware of.

   Shachar
P.S.
Usually - back in the days I was using Windows. Approximately when I was 
still at the Technion - around 1998-2000.

 Sh.

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kde themes on gtk appilcatons

2004-01-04 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi,

Some nerd got GTK applicaitons use KDE themes. Read all about it...
it even works here... :)

http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=9714PHPSESSID=96b99fa9c2904835b8a77c9c2d49e034

and rpm for mandrake 9.2:
http://web.ticino.com/Sagittarius/gtk-qt-engine-0.1-1mdk.i586.rpm

and my post on whatsup:
http://www.whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=viewtopicp=55121#55121

I am using it right now... looks kinda weird.. but it does work...

RTFM before using...
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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Gil Freund
Cygwin is probably the most popular (cygwin.com)
Weirdx is a java x-server (www.jcraft.com/weirdx), and is appropriately 
nnamed.
If you need speed, VNC is a better solution, although not an X-server

Gil

Lior Kaplan wrote:

Hi All,
 
Any recommendations on X server for windows?
I'd like to set some X forwarding.
 
I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in beer...).
 
Thanks,
 
Lior Kaplan
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http://www.Guides.co.il
 
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Re: Complaining and Solving Problems of the Nvidia Drivers

2004-01-04 Thread Gil Freund
How about Matrox, S3, SiS and Intel?

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


No, I'm afraid I haven't done any research into this problem yet and
thus cannot point you to such a card, although I should, soon. I
think Oleg did recently, though. Oleg?


Well, I tried to stay away from this discussion, but now I am drawn
into it explicitly. I changed a couple of video cards recently. My
Voodoo card that had served me for a few years went bust a few months
ago. The ATI Radeon card I bought then lasted about 3 months or so
(till the first power outage). I am using an nVidia card at the
moment. It works for me, so I have not had a chance to peruse their
support in any form.
Basically, the normal (i.e. your friendly neighbourhood computer
store) market is shared between ATI and nVidia. There is nothing else
worth mentioning, at least if you are a layman retail purchaser. As we
all know, ATI cards have free (as beer and speech) drivers, nVidia
cards have proprietary drivers that happen to work. Linus (check his
recent LKML postings on the subject) does not mind nVidia drivers all
that much, though he says it is one of the few cases where binary
modules are OK.
It well may happen that your friendly neighbourhood computer store
will not have ATI or nVidia in stock. That is, they may have nVidia
but not ATI, or the other way around. Chances are that they can order,
say, an ATI card for you if you insist on it for ideological reasons.
The shop I bought my current card at did not carry ATI, and not being
too ideological I bought nVidia knowing it would work.
Now, to the question of specs. Short answer is, I don't know, and this
has a bearing on everything else I will write below. A longer answer
is, it is likely that even if there is a free (as in whatever) driver
for your card it does not utilize the cards full capabilities in 3D
acceleration etc, because the spec is not fully known. 

Now, you only need 3D acceleration (or AGP for that matter) if you do
something really heavy, e.g. play advanced games on your computer. I
don't play games, so I would be very happy if there were simple
non-accelerated cheap (as in NIS 25 rather than NIS 250 a pop) cards
on the market, I would be very happy because that's all I need.
Now please write down your requirements for a spec (e.g. full
specification of every bell and whistle related to 3D acceleration,
or basic stuff that is enough for KDE), google or otherwise ask
around, and decide for yourself if that is available for the card of
your choice. I would venture a wild guess that if games is your thing
you will likely be better off with nVidia's proprietary driver than
with a free one for ATI.


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fetchyahoo and non-iso8859-1 texts (perl and internalization)]

2004-01-04 Thread Micha Feigin
I am using fetchyahoo to fetch my mail of yahoo to a local machine.
The problem is that I am currently suspecting it of failing to download
hebrew emails properly. All such emails I get are all ??? and other
people receiving the same mail when its a group mail don't have the
same problems (some of them also on yahoo).
fetchyahoo is a perl script that just connects to yahoo via the web
interface and downloads the emails that way.
Any idea how I would go about making it 8-bit encoding friendly ?
(possible also utf8 since most such mail originates on windows in my
case)

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 09:34:05PM +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Any recommendations on X server for windows?
 I'd like to set some X forwarding.
 
 I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in beer...).
 
 Thanks,
 

I had some good experience with the X server that comes with cygwin,
although it can be a bit of a head ache to set up (only some of the
setup files in all the wrong places). It did give me font server
support including true type (couldn't get truetype and type1 going
together though, although its probably possible).
It does have an option to start without a big background window (as if
the programs are win32 native) although I am not sure I have seen it
documented.
Ran lyx, xterm, remote programs and remote sessions over XDMCP.
Once it was running I liked it better then the commercial counterparts I
used (excite, and the one lyx recommends for the trial version, don't
remember the name).

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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 11:07:44PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 Lior Kaplan wrote:
 
 It seems that cygwin is a unanimous answer... thanks.
 
 Regards,
  
 
 Cygwin is the best free (either one) option. It does suffer from one 
 fundemental problem - it must use a virtual screen mode. This means 
 that xfree opens a Windows window, and all X-Windows live inside that space.
 

 Commercial X-Server usually also carry an integrated mode, in which the 
 X windows are opened as Windows windows, and the usual windows 
 decorations are the X-Windows window manager (ok kids - see if you can 
 count how many times the word windows appeared twice consecutively in 
 this sentance :-).
 

Actually the cygwin version can also do that. I don't remember the
command line switch though. AFAIK it can't switch between the two modes
while running though like some of the commercial options.

 Depending on your use type, you may find the later more convinent. For 
 example, I usually ssh (via putty or other) to the remote machine, and 
 only run more serious X applications on my desktop. Under this case, 
 it's usually easier to be able to minimize individual X windows into the 
 task bar. Unfortunetly, no free server allows that, that I'm aware of.
 
Shachar
 P.S.
 Usually - back in the days I was using Windows. Approximately when I was 
 still at the Technion - around 1998-2000.
 
  Sh.
 
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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Dan Fruehauf
On Sunday 04 January 2004 21:34, Lior Kaplan wrote:
 Hi All,

 Any recommendations on X server for windows?
 I'd like to set some X forwarding.

 I saw some commercial solutions, but I need something free (as in beer...).

 Thanks,

 Lior Kaplan
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I can speak for a commercial sollution which seems to be the best, as i ask 
people
If you decide to spent some $$, Exceed is the sollution i'm talking about. It 
has various features you wont get on other X servers, it is stable, one might 
say bloated a little, but it works really good.
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Re: X Server for windows

2004-01-04 Thread Aaron
I guess I must of missed something,
What can an xserver be used for on windoze??
Why might someone want one?
Thanks
Aaron
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