Re: Debian upgrade to 2.6 and mouse problem

2007-01-01 Thread Shlomi Loubaton

Hi,

I experienced some mouse issues using Sarge (Debian stable, kernel 2.6.8).
My problems were solved once I upgraded (compiled my own kernel) to
kernel 2.6.12 .
If you don't have the time to compile your own kernel, you can always
use the Debian backports: http://backports.org .
They have a 2.6.18 kernel package for etch + all archs in there.

Note that the mousedev module is dropped in kernel=2.6.12 so you
should remove it from your /etc/modules if you upgrade.

Shlomil

On 28/12/06, Chava Leviatan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi again,

The trus is that I am not a Debian guru at all... I just need to develop
some modules for the 2.6
Since I already worked with RH for the pas 2-3 years , I thught it will be
nice to change to a different
distro (was I wrong ?? )

So , any other distro recomendations will be highly appreciated , as long as
the mouse works ..


Chava
- Original Message -
From: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chava Leviatan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Debian upgrade to 2.6 and mouse problem


 Chava Leviatan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have installed Debian 3.1 and everything worked fine until I have
 decided to upgrade it to 2.6.
 The upgrade process was done through Debian kernel package (2.6.8).

 After I rebooted the machine , the mouse did not work (not detected ).
 It's a PS/2 mouse connected through a KVM . I have also tried to
 powerdown all the machines that on that KVM , but
 no success.

 I do understand that this is a common problem with 2.6 upgrades,
 however all the tips that I could find did not work
 (like reconfigure xserevr-freex86, psmouse_noext etc')

 Any suggestions?
 How is the mouse connected? PS2? USB?

 Also, please send the output of lsmod

 Shachar

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Re: laptop

2007-01-01 Thread Shlomi Loubaton

On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30,
 X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys

I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're
ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an
external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-(


apt-get install tpb

... Works for me.

The only features that don't work for me are:

Finger print reader - there is experimental driver for linux :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/thinkfinger

Modem - never had to use it but according to thinkwiki there are some
drivers for linux.

A great resource for T43 and other Thinkpads:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T43



Shlomil

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re: legal problems and discussions

2007-01-01 Thread Peter


Wrt the previous discussion: This is a link to what is considered wrong
('The Bill of Wrongs' as opposed to the 'Bill of Rights'):

  http://www.slate.com/id/2156397/

So I did not make things up, it's really bad.

from Slashdot,
Peter

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Re: laptop

2007-01-01 Thread Oded Arbel
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 15:50 +0200, Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
 On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30,
   X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys
 
  I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're
  ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an
  external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-(
 
 apt-get install tpb
 
  Works for me.

I'm using tpb, how is that supposed to help me use win keys, for which I
have no hardware ?

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Oded
::..
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. 
-- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)



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Re: laptop

2007-01-01 Thread Shlomi Loubaton

Oh, sorry. For some reason I thought you were referring to the special
IBM keys (Fn, access IBM etc)

Shlomi.

On 01/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 15:50 +0200, Shlomi Loubaton wrote:
 On 30/12/06, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 15:20 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   For example, you can look how their X60 looks: just like T30,
   X31, T40 etc, only a bit slimmer, plus the damn wiindows keys
 
  I'm using a T43, which sadly lacks the windows and menu keys - they're
  ton useful, I always need more shift states, and when I don't have an
  external keyboard I have to make do with only 3 :-(

 apt-get install tpb

  Works for me.

I'm using tpb, how is that supposed to help me use win keys, for which I
have no hardware ?

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Oded
::..
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)





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Ethical status of patenting software (was: Israel TV)

2007-01-01 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sun, 31 Dec:

 I don't think this issue is specific to linking, to piracy, or IP laws.
 The more basic question is - how much does free speech cover you when
 you are telling others to break the law, or helping them do so more easily?

that's what legislators philosophize about... on those issues I think
I'm leaning to the Libertarian point of view which is simple - you
should have a list of rights (like the American Bill of Rights which has
been mostly stepped over in the last 30-40 years), which SHOULD be
inalienable, and one of them is Free Speach, which you should be able to
practice as far and wide as you want as long as you don't take away from
other people's freedoms in the process.

So submitting a Fatwa is fine. Following it is not.

abusing copyrighted matterial is wrong, but talking about it and linking
to it is not.

Using bombs is wrong, but building them and talking about them is not.
(though I'm a pacifist, and this is kinda conflicting with my other
convictions)

Publishing CC numbers of course harms the privacy rights of their
owners, and endangers their assets, (which is another basic right).
However if you are not the one who stole them and there is a danger
someone will abuse this list, you COULD and probably SHOULD reveal that
list to the credit card company and/or the owners privately or in the
papers allowing them to know their rights have been violated and they
should take the necessary steps.

 At what point do you stop being just a speaker, and become an accomplice?

the moment you hurt someone else's basic rights and impede on their
freedoms. I think it's harder to define those other basic rights than
the freedom of speach actually.

 I guess your intent matters a lot. If you publish on Wikipedia an explanation
 of what Trinitrotuluene is and how it is prepared, a judge will much more
 likely be in your favor than if you published a How-to-blow-up-your-school
 For Dummies step-by-step instruction manual in a website for kids.

indeed, now you are mixing in children's rights which is a different
issues. underage people are priviliged to have extra protecting rights
and parents have rights to protect minors from certain matterials. You
can publish that book, but not in a way that may violate those
protections and the parents' rights to defend their children by
restricting access to that info. that way you will not be able to sell
it at a school, or let minors read it in a public library, but it should
otherwise be free to be published and purchased.

 Similarly, if you passingly mention a link in some mailing list in response
 to a question, in tom lev, this is very different from building a commercial
 site whose sole intent is to help others to break the law, while you profit.

I can (or should have been able to) give away (or sell) instruments to
break safes, spy on people, programs to crack servers. If me and my
clients don't actually use them to step on other people's freedoms
there's nothing illegal here.

 Another real-life example is selling knives, which is a perfectly legal and

excatly.

 entire profits come from murderers, and you knowingly and delibrately sell
 them weapons designed to kill humans with greater efficiency. So it's all a
 question of intent.

that's where the US courts and the US constitution differ in the last
few decades. If napster is providing an infrastructure and tools, is it
an accomplice? I think not, but they do. this was not the case in the
eighties, see the betamax trial now quoted everywhere.

I say that knowledge in itself, scientific data or other types of
knowhow, has no morals. it's the action you decide to take that can be
judged for morality. Classic example - Dr. Nobel invents dynamite.
Dynamite has no morals. Nobels wanted it to be used for easier cuting of
stone from mountains and be used for peaceful things, some others
decided to use it as a weapon. the knowledge of the dynamite recepie or
even the responsible ownership and storage of it, should be absolutely
fine. it's the decision of using it or abusing it that can be judged to
be right or wrong.

of course, most countries would like to control the ownership of
explosives before they are potentially abused because people are stupid
and can't be trusted, so you need a license even for shooting fireworks.
that's beaurocracy helping the law to proactively defend people's writes
by taking away some rights. that's fine too because the world is not
perfect (as I said, people are stupid).

so you sit and write such a bill of rights, and you say that every
citizen should have a right to live in a safe environment. that means no
explosives next door or high voltage power lines outside his windows,
and no celular antenae on his roof. this clearly stops his neighbour
from keeping dynamite next door in a high-riser, but nothing to stop a
farmer from stocking plastique if there are no near neighbours :-)

of course, the usual disclaimer, IANAL, and the 

Re: I borked my debian 3.1 VPS, last minute resuscitation attempts before I dump new image on it?

2007-01-01 Thread Maxim Veksler

On 12/31/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 10:21:19PM +0200, Maxim Veksler wrote:
 Hello list, I got me a VPS from gplhost.com.

 First thing I did was installing Debian sarge on it, second thing I
 did was playing smarty pants and adding _everything_ from
 backports.org.

Why not dist-upgrade to Etch? That process seems to have slightly less
points of failure, as it is atually being debugged by several people.



Yes, that's exactly what I ended up doing.
That is - after I dumped fresh image of sarge on the machine.


One thing to watch for: upgrading the kernel is probably tricky with
such virtual-hosting setup. I figure you should contact support or
whatever regarding a kernel upgrade. Quite a few packages may break if
you have an older kernel.



Zoro problems, I did asked support before doing the actual upgrade and
they told me I am free to do what ever I please. The host is Xen based
with Athlon64 Pacifica enabled hardware hypervisor.




 OT questions:

 Where can I get more information about the various files under
 /var/lib/dpkg ?
 Turns out that even in sarge apt has sources.list.d why doesn't
 anyone uses it then?
 Can I write custom methods (under /usr/lib/apt/methods) ? Where is protocol
 ??
 Any more interesting places to look when hacking dpkg/debconf/apt/aptitude ?



Hmmm, could someone please provide some tips for the above ?


 Thank you and have a great weekend,
 Maxim.

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Lecture] The fascinating world of Regular Expressions in Perl - Ami Chayun

2007-01-01 Thread Amos Shapira

On 01/01/07, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear Amichai,

We have a problem to announce things too much in advance -- the schedule
is dynamic (we recently had a last day change). We do announce each time
the future lectures (so you can get an idea of what's coming), and there
is RSS to haifux.



How about providing an iCal entry so people can integrate it in their
calendars?

(Just an idea to help keep people up to date).

--Amos