Re: connect to remote smb printer via cups

2007-01-20 Thread ik

On 1/20/07, Dan Kenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear List,

I fail to set up SMB printers on my FC6 box.

system-config-printer seems to add the printer well, and reports that the
printer is accessible.

I can connect and print to the remote printer with smbclient and with
/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb. I can send jobs to cups with lpr.

But something on the middle does not work: cupsd does not seem to execute the
backend, and the job stalls forever.

Any ideas where is my problem or how I can debug this?
All I learned from stracing cupsd is that it does not exec the smb backend (I
don't know whether it should).


I had a similar problem, and it turned out that foomatic crashes the
printer drivers every time cups wishes to start actually do something
with the job (that is not a queue).

Look at /tmp/ and see if you have a foomatic.error or something like that.

BTW, the only way I could resolve the issue, is to stop using foomatic.



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Re: connect to remote smb printer via cups

2007-01-20 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 11:08:37AM +0200, ik wrote:
> I had a similar problem, and it turned out that foomatic crashes the
> printer drivers every time cups wishes to start actually do something
> with the job (that is not a queue).
> 
> Look at /tmp/ and see if you have a foomatic.error or something like that.
> 
> BTW, the only way I could resolve the issue, is to stop using foomatic.
> 

Thanks for the tip, but I see no traces of a crashed foomatic.
Any ohter thread of idea?

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Re: My VMWare 6 (beta) experience

2007-01-20 Thread Jacob Broido

Hi,
The reason you experience slowdown in Vmware 6 (beta) as compared to Vmware
5.x is because as it names suggest  - a beta.

VMware 6 has extra debugging&tracing  capabilities and features included
into it, and these cannot be disabled in beta release.
Actually the software tells you this when you power it on, and that it will
result in lower performance.


So there.


On 1/19/07, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

I wanted to share my experience with VMWare 6 beta with you people..

Machine: Pentium 4 2.80Ghz, 2GB RAM, 120GB disk, CentOS 4.4 + updates.
VMWare: Version 6 (Workstation) Build 36983.

VMWare 6 has some really nice features when it comes to memory support
(up to 3.5GB), USB 2.0 support, and other nice features (including a
built in VNC support, although not features as nicely as in the latest
QEMU).

One of the things that really irritates me and the reason I'm writing
this here is it's speed of emulating: Although my machine is not the
fastest in terms of processors today, it should be pretty respectable
to run one emulated session pretty fast IMHO. The Guest OS that I'm
trying is: XP, Norton Antivirus, 256MB RAM, 8GB Virtual disk and thats
about it (I use it for some tests).

With VMWare 6, the emulation is DOG SLOW compared to VMWare 5.5.3
(latest stable). It's so slow, that to me it looks like I'm running XP
with a 400Mhz processor with 64MB RAM.

I do know that the beta has logging enabled, but 3 times slower
compared to VMWare 5? I think VMWare Workstation is now entitled to
the name "Bloatware".

So if you run the beta version and see a significant performance hit,
it's not your machine, its version 6 beta.

Thanks,
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Re: My VMWare 6 (beta) experience

2007-01-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Jacob Broido wrote:
> Hi,
> The reason you experience slowdown in Vmware 6 (beta) as compared to
> Vmware 5.x is because as it names suggest  - a beta.
>
> VMware 6 has extra debugging&tracing  capabilities and features
> included into it, and these cannot be disabled in beta release.
> Actually the software tells you this when you power it on, and that it
> will result in lower performance.
>
>
> So there.
What I'm interested in hearing is whether the RTC bug was finally fixed.

Under VMWare Workstation 5 when running on Debian with kernel 2.6.18, as
well as on VMWare server (latest version) when running on Windows XP,
the guest OS receives an incorrect interrupt rate for the real time
clock (RTC). This causes a host of undesirable side effects.

When running a Windows host (as I do most days these days, working on a
big Windows development project), the clock keeps running forward. Every
so often, the vmware tools thingy resets it back, which wrecks havoc in
Visual Studio's makefile system.

On Linux, however, the effects are worse. When running Linux inside the
guest OS, the system mis-judges how long the keys are down on the
keyboard, and produces auto-repeats in cases where auto-repeat is most
unwanted. I ended up solving that one by setting the auto-repeat
threshold to almost a second, but this is very annoying when you DO want
auto-repeat.

I would very much like to know whether this problem is solved in version 6.

Shachar

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Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Maxim Veksler

Ola list,

I've decided windows deserved even less space then what it has now on
my 60GB hard disk. Before stating the actual bit shifting procedure
I'd like to have a cloned backup of my HD.

The whole story sums up to 2 things :

1. I'm backing up into a windows based storage. Meaning I can use
either ftp, smb or specific client software that will be installed on
the windows server (cygwin, or dedicated backup server).

2. I have a rather new network hardware, not supported by the vast
majority of the live cds.
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection

The current bootable OS's on the laptop are Ubuntu 6.10 & XP.


First I've tried g4l v0.21 [1] but that completely fails to identify
my network cards. In case you we're wondering - No, it does not
include gcc (not to speak about kernel headers) and it runs 2.6.17.

Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should
I request dhcp offer in the bsd world, it has the dhclient application
but doing a simple dhclient ipw0 doesn't seem to do much.

I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.

There are those "traditional" backups : bacula, amanda & backuppc
(apt-cache search backup for lots more). But this is a slow and boring
process - In case of recovery I will need to install both my windows
and linux machines to do the restore.

I'd thank anyone with a creative / original idea to my situation. I
wouldn't mind creating my own g4u cd, if someone could explain how I
go with adding additional (linux) drivers[3] into the bsd kernel.

The ultimate goal making a ghosted copy of my harddisk, _over the network_!
AKA, without pulling the harddisk out and connecting it with a usb
cable, hack it's 2007 after all... [4]


Thank you,
Maxim.

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
[3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
[4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232

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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi Maxim,

Well, I have been where you are and what I did is that I got a program
called: Acronis TrueImage 9.1 Workstation.
When you install the software, it will create an ISO file (or burn it
for you) of their "live CD" with the drivers for your network. Just
boot the created CD, and from there it should be pretty easy to go and
backup to whatever place you want. They have a very nice and simple
GUI to backup to FTP, SMB, CD etc..

The program costs $79.99 and you can see it at: www.acronis.com

Thats option 1 :)

Option 2 - since you already have Windows there:

Download bartPE (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/), and read the text how
to add your network driver (if needed). Grab a copy of GHOST for DOS,
and put it (simple instructions are there), then let bartPE create a
"Live CD" for you. It will create a simple Windows "Live CD", which
you can boot, start it network services, map a network drive to your
SMB storage, and simply run Ghost for DOS. Works like a charm.

Remember one thing: I would not recommend to erase your windows
partition (including the partition which holds the installation). You
never know when you need to do something which require windows, and
you might to sell your machine at the future, and most clients would
prefer to have Windows with all the drivers installed, so it could be
useful.

Thanks,
Hetz

On 1/20/07, Maxim Veksler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ola list,

I've decided windows deserved even less space then what it has now on
my 60GB hard disk. Before stating the actual bit shifting procedure
I'd like to have a cloned backup of my HD.

The whole story sums up to 2 things :

1. I'm backing up into a windows based storage. Meaning I can use
either ftp, smb or specific client software that will be installed on
the windows server (cygwin, or dedicated backup server).

2. I have a rather new network hardware, not supported by the vast
majority of the live cds.
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller
05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection

The current bootable OS's on the laptop are Ubuntu 6.10 & XP.


First I've tried g4l v0.21 [1] but that completely fails to identify
my network cards. In case you we're wondering - No, it does not
include gcc (not to speak about kernel headers) and it runs 2.6.17.

Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should
I request dhcp offer in the bsd world, it has the dhclient application
but doing a simple dhclient ipw0 doesn't seem to do much.

I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.

There are those "traditional" backups : bacula, amanda & backuppc
(apt-cache search backup for lots more). But this is a slow and boring
process - In case of recovery I will need to install both my windows
and linux machines to do the restore.

I'd thank anyone with a creative / original idea to my situation. I
wouldn't mind creating my own g4u cd, if someone could explain how I
go with adding additional (linux) drivers[3] into the bsd kernel.

The ultimate goal making a ghosted copy of my harddisk, _over the network_!
AKA, without pulling the harddisk out and connecting it with a usb
cable, hack it's 2007 after all... [4]


Thank you,
Maxim.

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
[3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
[4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232

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Re: My VMWare 6 (beta) experience

2007-01-20 Thread Jacob Broido

Are you using Vmware on Intel based laptop?

On 1/20/07, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jacob Broido wrote:
> Hi,
> The reason you experience slowdown in Vmware 6 (beta) as compared to
> Vmware 5.x is because as it names suggest  - a beta.
>
> VMware 6 has extra debugging&tracing  capabilities and features
> included into it, and these cannot be disabled in beta release.
> Actually the software tells you this when you power it on, and that it
> will result in lower performance.
>
>
> So there.
What I'm interested in hearing is whether the RTC bug was finally fixed.

Under VMWare Workstation 5 when running on Debian with kernel 2.6.18, as
well as on VMWare server (latest version) when running on Windows XP,
the guest OS receives an incorrect interrupt rate for the real time
clock (RTC). This causes a host of undesirable side effects.

When running a Windows host (as I do most days these days, working on a
big Windows development project), the clock keeps running forward. Every
so often, the vmware tools thingy resets it back, which wrecks havoc in
Visual Studio's makefile system.

On Linux, however, the effects are worse. When running Linux inside the
guest OS, the system mis-judges how long the keys are down on the
keyboard, and produces auto-repeats in cases where auto-repeat is most
unwanted. I ended up solving that one by setting the auto-repeat
threshold to almost a second, but this is very annoying when you DO want
auto-repeat.

I would very much like to know whether this problem is solved in version
6.

Shachar

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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
These next solutions aren't _over the network_, but they don't require pulling 
out the HDD. 

1. Connect the two machines via USB, boot the laptop with a live CD, create 
the image and transfer via the USB. Should be doable on-the-fly, without 
needing to store the image locally. I'm not sure if the Windows can receive 
it that way, if not then cygwin should be able to.

2. Just use an external USB storage and create the image to that with a live 
CD, then dump it into the Windows machine. I'm sure there is a Gmach for 
external USB drives somewhere ;-)

Chaim

On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:45, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> Ola list,
>
> I've decided windows deserved even less space then what it has now on
> my 60GB hard disk. Before stating the actual bit shifting procedure
> I'd like to have a cloned backup of my HD.
>
> The whole story sums up to 2 things :
>
> 1. I'm backing up into a windows based storage. Meaning I can use
> either ftp, smb or specific client software that will be installed on
> the windows server (cygwin, or dedicated backup server).
>
> 2. I have a rather new network hardware, not supported by the vast
> majority of the live cds.
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet
> Controller 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless
> 3945ABG Network Connection
>
> The current bootable OS's on the laptop are Ubuntu 6.10 & XP.
>
>
> First I've tried g4l v0.21 [1] but that completely fails to identify
> my network cards. In case you we're wondering - No, it does not
> include gcc (not to speak about kernel headers) and it runs 2.6.17.
>
> Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
> identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
> firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
> device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
> wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should
> I request dhcp offer in the bsd world, it has the dhclient application
> but doing a simple dhclient ipw0 doesn't seem to do much.
>
> I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
> conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
> dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
> the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
> what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
> cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.
>
> There are those "traditional" backups : bacula, amanda & backuppc
> (apt-cache search backup for lots more). But this is a slow and boring
> process - In case of recovery I will need to install both my windows
> and linux machines to do the restore.
>
> I'd thank anyone with a creative / original idea to my situation. I
> wouldn't mind creating my own g4u cd, if someone could explain how I
> go with adding additional (linux) drivers[3] into the bsd kernel.
>
> The ultimate goal making a ghosted copy of my harddisk, _over the network_!
> AKA, without pulling the harddisk out and connecting it with a usb
> cable, hack it's 2007 after all... [4]
>
>
> Thank you,
> Maxim.
>
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
> [2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
> [3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
> [4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232

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Re: My VMWare 6 (beta) experience

2007-01-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Jacob Broido wrote:
> Are you using Vmware on Intel based laptop?
I read the relevant passage. I (VMWare workstation hosted on Linux) am
running it on a laptop with an Intel chip, but the other people (VMWare
Server hosted on Windows XP) run it on a desktop. The problem happens
both here and there.

Shachar

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Re: My VMWare 6 (beta) experience

2007-01-20 Thread Jacob Broido

If you run vm on a host with cpu that has frequency scaling( Intel
Speedstep,AMD PowerNow, AMD Cool'n'Quiet), then you're affected by the
following:

http://kb.vmware.com/vmtnkb/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=1227&sliceId=SAL_Public

As to your point regarding desktop cpu's also affected by this - most cpu's
today (desktop,mobile) have frequency scaling.

Note, this issue is not limited to VMware only, AFAIK Microsoft
VirtualPC/Server is also affected by this.

On 1/20/07, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jacob Broido wrote:
> Are you using Vmware on Intel based laptop?
I read the relevant passage. I (VMWare workstation hosted on Linux) am
running it on a laptop with an Intel chip, but the other people (VMWare
Server hosted on Windows XP) run it on a desktop. The problem happens
both here and there.

Shachar

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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
BTW, did you try Knoppix instead of g4l?

Also see comments below.

Chaim
On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:52, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote:
> These next solutions aren't _over the network_, but they don't require
> pulling out the HDD.
>
> 1. Connect the two machines via USB, boot the laptop with a live CD, create
> the image and transfer via the USB. Should be doable on-the-fly, without
> needing to store the image locally. I'm not sure if the Windows can receive
> it that way, if not then cygwin should be able to.
>
> 2. Just use an external USB storage and create the image to that with a
> live CD, then dump it into the Windows machine. I'm sure there is a Gmach
> for external USB drives somewhere ;-)
>
> Chaim
>
> On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:45, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> > Ola list,
> >
> > Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
> > identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
> > firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
> > device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
> > wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should

WiFi NIC's require that a firmware be "installed" every time the system 
prepares them for use. It is not a complicated process and is generally 
automated once configured but probably has to be downloaded first.

> > I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
> > conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
> > dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
> > the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
> > what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
> > cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.

Knoppix

> >
> > Thank you,
> > Maxim.
> >
> > [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
> > [2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
> > [3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
> > [4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232
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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Maxim Veksler

Hi Chaim !

On 1/21/07, Chaim Keren Tzion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

BTW, did you try Knoppix instead of g4l?



Actually no, I know grml[1] has support for my Agere NIC and ipw3945
WiFI card but it does not have the software used in the g4[l,u]
liveCD. I haven't yet dug enough to find out what is it exactly that
g4l uses for the actual block device copying procedure but I do know
that the  software used is the one I'd like to make the cloning with.


Also see comments below.

Chaim
On Saturday 20 January 2007 19:52, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote:
> These next solutions aren't _over the network_, but they don't require
> pulling out the HDD.
>
> 1. Connect the two machines via USB, boot the laptop with a live CD, create
> the image and transfer via the USB. Should be doable on-the-fly, without
> needing to store the image locally. I'm not sure if the Windows can receive
> it that way, if not then cygwin should be able to.
>
> 2. Just use an external USB storage and create the image to that with a
> live CD, then dump it into the Windows machine. I'm sure there is a Gmach
> for external USB drives somewhere ;-)
>
> Chaim
>
> On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:45, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> > Ola list,
> >
> > Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
> > identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
> > firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
> > device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
> > wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should

WiFi NIC's require that a firmware be "installed" every time the system
prepares them for use. It is not a complicated process and is generally
automated once configured but probably has to be downloaded first.

> > I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
> > conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
> > dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
> > the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
> > what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
> > cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.

Knoppix



I'd consider dd as last resort, namely because it will also copy
blocks marked as "bad" and it has no chance on recovering to a
different geometry. That's not an issue for me (this time) but I
prefer to solve the problem at a wider scope if possible.

Again, if I find no better solution then booting grml and dd'ing my
stuff then I'll do it. But in my view - That's lame.

[1] http://grml.org/


Anyway - Thanks for the help !

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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Maxim Veksler

On 1/20/07, Chaim Keren Tzion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

These next solutions aren't _over the network_, but they don't require pulling
out the HDD.

1. Connect the two machines via USB, boot the laptop with a live CD, create
the image and transfer via the USB. Should be doable on-the-fly, without
needing to store the image locally. I'm not sure if the Windows can receive
it that way, if not then cygwin should be able to.



Now this is interesting, I understand you are referring to a usb
device that has "brains" in it.
What will it emulate then a block device or a network interface+switch ?

This is cool either way, got some links / shopping tips for me ?


2. Just use an external USB storage and create the image to that with a live
CD, then dump it into the Windows machine. I'm sure there is a Gmach for
external USB drives somewhere ;-)



Oh sure, if only life were that simple. USB attached storage is great;
Care to loan me one?


Chaim



Max.


On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:45, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> Ola list,
>
> I've decided windows deserved even less space then what it has now on
> my 60GB hard disk. Before stating the actual bit shifting procedure
> I'd like to have a cloned backup of my HD.
>
> The whole story sums up to 2 things :
>
> 1. I'm backing up into a windows based storage. Meaning I can use
> either ftp, smb or specific client software that will be installed on
> the windows server (cygwin, or dedicated backup server).
>
> 2. I have a rather new network hardware, not supported by the vast
> majority of the live cds.
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G
> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet
> Controller 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless
> 3945ABG Network Connection
>
> The current bootable OS's on the laptop are Ubuntu 6.10 & XP.
>
>
> First I've tried g4l v0.21 [1] but that completely fails to identify
> my network cards. In case you we're wondering - No, it does not
> include gcc (not to speak about kernel headers) and it runs 2.6.17.
>
> Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
> identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
> firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
> device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
> wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should
> I request dhcp offer in the bsd world, it has the dhclient application
> but doing a simple dhclient ipw0 doesn't seem to do much.
>
> I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
> conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
> dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
> the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
> what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
> cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.
>
> There are those "traditional" backups : bacula, amanda & backuppc
> (apt-cache search backup for lots more). But this is a slow and boring
> process - In case of recovery I will need to install both my windows
> and linux machines to do the restore.
>
> I'd thank anyone with a creative / original idea to my situation. I
> wouldn't mind creating my own g4u cd, if someone could explain how I
> go with adding additional (linux) drivers[3] into the bsd kernel.
>
> The ultimate goal making a ghosted copy of my harddisk, _over the network_!
> AKA, without pulling the harddisk out and connecting it with a usb
> cable, hack it's 2007 after all... [4]
>
>
> Thank you,
> Maxim.
>
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
> [2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
> [3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
> [4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232




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Re: Cloning my laptop's HD over the network (LG T1 Express)

2007-01-20 Thread Chaim Keren Tzion
Below...

On Sunday 21 January 2007 01:25, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> On 1/20/07, Chaim Keren Tzion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > These next solutions aren't _over the network_, but they don't require
> > pulling out the HDD.
> >
> > 1. Connect the two machines via USB, boot the laptop with a live CD,
> > create the image and transfer via the USB. Should be doable on-the-fly,
> > without needing to store the image locally. I'm not sure if the Windows
> > can receive it that way, if not then cygwin should be able to.
>
> Now this is interesting, I understand you are referring to a usb
> device that has "brains" in it.
> What will it emulate then a block device or a network interface+switch ?
>
> This is cool either way, got some links / shopping tips for me ?

http://www.linux-usb.org/
In particular: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
Pay attention to the warning about not using a plain A-to-A cable. The page 
says you need a cable with special electronics in it.

Firewire may be an option as well.
No explanation here but it seems some are doing it. Search for "linux" on the 
page:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/30/0259211

>
> > 2. Just use an external USB storage and create the image to that with a
> > live CD, then dump it into the Windows machine. I'm sure there is a Gmach
> > for external USB drives somewhere ;-)
>
> Oh sure, if only life were that simple. USB attached storage is great;
> Care to loan me one?

Borrow one from work.

> > Chaim
>
> Max.
>
> > On Saturday 20 January 2007 12:45, Maxim Veksler wrote:
> > > Ola list,
> > >
> > > I've decided windows deserved even less space then what it has now on
> > > my 60GB hard disk. Before stating the actual bit shifting procedure
> > > I'd like to have a cloned backup of my HD.
> > >
> > > The whole story sums up to 2 things :
> > >
> > > 1. I'm backing up into a windows based storage. Meaning I can use
> > > either ftp, smb or specific client software that will be installed on
> > > the windows server (cygwin, or dedicated backup server).
> > >
> > > 2. I have a rather new network hardware, not supported by the vast
> > > majority of the live cds.
> > > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G
> > > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet
> > > Controller 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless
> > > 3945ABG Network Connection
> > >
> > > The current bootable OS's on the laptop are Ubuntu 6.10 & XP.
> > >
> > >
> > > First I've tried g4l v0.21 [1] but that completely fails to identify
> > > my network cards. In case you we're wondering - No, it does not
> > > include gcc (not to speak about kernel headers) and it runs 2.6.17.
> > >
> > > Then I gave a shot at g4u 2.3beta3 [2], here netbsd managed to
> > > identify my WiFi card, but gave some warning's about "Unable to load
> > > firmware file". I then tried to assign it the proper ssid and get the
> > > device into "up" which didn't work either. I might be doing something
> > > wrong here and would appreciate if someone could tip me on how should
> > > I request dhcp offer in the bsd world, it has the dhclient application
> > > but doing a simple dhclient ipw0 doesn't seem to do much.
> > >
> > > I am aware of the "from within" dd solution: dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k
> > > conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d |
> > > dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" but I wouldn't go this way because it's reading
> > > the actual storage while the system writes stuff - not good. Besides,
> > > what if I really do need to restore? I this case I still need a live
> > > cd that would identify my laptop's Wifi/lan device.
> > >
> > > There are those "traditional" backups : bacula, amanda & backuppc
> > > (apt-cache search backup for lots more). But this is a slow and boring
> > > process - In case of recovery I will need to install both my windows
> > > and linux machines to do the restore.
> > >
> > > I'd thank anyone with a creative / original idea to my situation. I
> > > wouldn't mind creating my own g4u cd, if someone could explain how I
> > > go with adding additional (linux) drivers[3] into the bsd kernel.
> > >
> > > The ultimate goal making a ghosted copy of my harddisk, _over the
> > > network_! AKA, without pulling the harddisk out and connecting it with
> > > a usb cable, hack it's 2007 after all... [4]
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Maxim.
> > >
> > > [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
> > > [2] http://fbim.fh-regensburg.de/~feyrer/g4u/
> > > [3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/et131x
> > > [4] http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/30/2327232

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