what packet shaper hot uses?

2008-05-06 Thread sara fink
Someone know what packet shaper HOT uses? I am on mpls.

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Re: Status of IPv6 deployment in Israel?

2008-05-06 Thread Ariel Biener
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 00:10, Omer Zak wrote:
> What is the current status of IPv6 deployment in Israel?


Hello Omer,


   The status of IPv6 deployment is as follows:

1. Machba/IIUCC (israel academic network) has IPv6 in it's core, and
IPv6 is provided to each campus. It also has IPv6 connectivity to the
world via it's service provider (GEANT- PanEuropean academic/research
network). It also has IPv6 connectivity to IIX.
2. IIX is IPv6 enabled and supports peering via IPv6. BezeqINT and IIUCC
already peer with it via v6.
3. BezeqINT has IPv6 in some of its core, and is connected to the IIX via
IPv6. They might also have IPv6 connectivity to their upstream providers
abroad (I assume they have at least one such v6 peering).
4. Smile Communications (012 + Internet Zahav) have IPv6 in the core network
of what used to be Internet Zahav, and they also have at least one v6 
peering
with one of their upstreams. They also provide a v6 service, that is 
irc.ipv6.inter.net.il

The above only includes v6 data of applications/implementations on the public 
internet,
there may also be deployments inside companies for tests, product development, 
etc,
but I do not have data on those.

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vim find in files

2008-05-06 Thread Erez D
hi

i am running gvim under XP, and want to search for a word in a list of c
files,

i could do that by:
:args *.c
:argdo /word

but i prefer to get the output similar to the output of make: a list of
lines where i can click and get to the places

i tried combining argdo with vimgrep or grep but wasn't successful.

anyone ?


Re: linux vserver vs. Xen?

2008-05-06 Thread Arie Skliarouk
Hi,

Also their answer to the "Why isn't there a device /dev/xyz within a
> guest?" question in the FAQ (http://tinyurl.com/4y8mhc) isn't
> encouraging for anyone concerned about enough segregation between the
> guests. Even though I control all software on the physical server I'd
> rather try to have better separation separate among the guests.


Don't get me wrong. I like the idea - single kernel, effective CPU
utilization even on commodity hardware, shared memory between the vservers.

It is the implementation that should be improved.

-- 
Arie


New Article: "What Makes Software High-Quality?"

2008-05-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

Here's a new article, fresh off the electronic press:

http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/high-quality-software/

It's available as HTML to read online, PDF (but please don't print it) and 
DocBook/XML. The Licence is CC-by-2.5 (or later).

Comments, suggestions, corrections, rants and raves are welcome.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: vim find in files

2008-05-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:04:30AM +0300, Erez D wrote:
> hi
> 
> i am running gvim under XP, and want to search for a word in a list of c
> files,
> 
> i could do that by:
> :args *.c
> :argdo /word
> 
> but i prefer to get the output similar to the output of make: a list of
> lines where i can click and get to the places
> 
> i tried combining argdo with vimgrep or grep but wasn't successful.
> 
> anyone ?

:h grep

  Vim has two ways to find matches for a pattern: Internal and external.
  The advantage of the internal grep is that it works on all systems and
  uses the powerful Vim search patterns.

  ...

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Re: New Article: "What Makes Software High-Quality?"

2008-05-06 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi all!

Here's a new article, fresh off the electronic press:

http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/high-quality-software/

It's available as HTML to read online, PDF (but please don't print it) and 
DocBook/XML. The Licence is CC-by-2.5 (or later).
  

If it's CC-by-2.5, then why not print it?

Shachar

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Re: New Article: "What Makes Software High-Quality?"

2008-05-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi!

On Tuesday 06 May 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Here's a new article, fresh off the electronic press:
> >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/high-quality-software/
> >
> > It's available as HTML to read online, PDF (but please don't print it)
> > and DocBook/XML. The Licence is CC-by-2.5 (or later).
>
> If it's CC-by-2.5, then why not print it?
>

You are allowed to print it, of course. It's legal, and I approve it. But I 
still find it wasteful, because it's a waste of paper and (due to the 
restrictions on Hemp production) causes de-forestation.

So, please think twice before you do.

Regards,

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[OFFTOPIC] Re: New Article: "What Makes Software High-Quality?"

2008-05-06 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 12:47 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Here's a new article, fresh off the electronic press:
> >
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/high-quality-software/
> >
> > It's available as HTML to read online, PDF (but please don't print it) and 
> > DocBook/XML. The Licence is CC-by-2.5 (or later).
> >   
> If it's CC-by-2.5, then why not print it?

To save some precious natural CO2 disposal units?
Because the article is still in flux and you had better wait 3 months
until it stabilizes before printing it on parchment?

 --- Omer


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Re: vim find in files

2008-05-06 Thread Erez D
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:04:30AM +0300, Erez D wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > i am running gvim under XP, and want to search for a word in a list of c
> > files,
> >
> > i could do that by:
> > :args *.c
> > :argdo /word
> >
> > but i prefer to get the output similar to the output of make: a list of
> > lines where i can click and get to the places
> >
> > i tried combining argdo with vimgrep or grep but wasn't successful.
> >
> > anyone ?
>
> :h grep
>
>  Vim has two ways to find matches for a pattern: Internal and external.
>  The advantage of the internal grep is that it works on all systems and
>  uses the powerful Vim search patterns.
>
>  ...

you are probably a mathematician,
your answer is exact
and it does not help in any way ...


cheers,
erez.

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Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-06 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 06 May:
> Ira Abramov wrote:
>
>> centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are
>> seeing it's buggy as hell
>>   
> I would say that claiming that CentOS5 is not a good development  
> environment for a program that will deployed on CentOS 5 is a very bade  
> advice.

of course the final build are going to be made on it, but the
environment itself is very lacking for developers. kdevelop keeps
crashing, what else can I say?

The R&D manager here decided to pick Tikal to manage the subversion and
all, we also got the tikal-eclipse tarball from sf.net. It seems to hate
the JDK 1.6, which means I'll have to probably keep an older JDK in
parallel to resolve this.

> I recommend your client look into Eclipse. Failing that, Try Visual  
> Slick Edit.

Looking into Eclipse, but some people are annoyed by the process and
insist on MS DevStudio because it "Just Works"  (and I agree, it's silly
to pick IT standards this late in the R&D process, but that's a
different issue. the DevStudio is also useless when developing
GNU/Linux code, because of the lake of makefile support, if nothing
else.)

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OFFTOPIC was: New Article: "What Makes Software High-Quality?"

2008-05-06 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Tue, 06 May:
> 
> You are allowed to print it, of course. It's legal, and I approve it. But I 
> still find it wasteful, because it's a waste of paper and (due to the 
> restrictions on Hemp production) causes de-forestation.

both Hemp and Swedish forests grow faster than you can use them if you
let them. The main environmental problem with the manufacturing of ANY
paper is the bleaching chemicals in the process, and the energy wasted
on the boiling and cooling of the needed materials, and of course the
gasses emited when you deliver it from the manufacturer to any store
around the globe.

the actual plant material is the LEAST of the problems.

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Re: vim find in files

2008-05-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 02:58:18PM +0300, Erez D wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:04:30AM +0300, Erez D wrote:
> > > hi
> > >
> > > i am running gvim under XP, and want to search for a word in a list of c
> > > files,
> > >
> > > i could do that by:
> > > :args *.c
> > > :argdo /word
> > >
> > > but i prefer to get the output similar to the output of make: a list of
> > > lines where i can click and get to the places
> > >
> > > i tried combining argdo with vimgrep or grep but wasn't successful.
> > >
> > > anyone ?
> >
> > :h grep
> >
> >  Vim has two ways to find matches for a pattern: Internal and external.
> >  The advantage of the internal grep is that it works on all systems and
> >  uses the powerful Vim search patterns.
> >
> >  ...
> 
> you are probably a mathematician,
> your answer is exact
> and it does not help in any way ...

:grep is basically what you're looking for. As I don't know what your
specific setup is, I refered you to its documentation.

Just as ':make' has basically the same syntax as the original command
(:make targetname), :grep has the same basic syntax as the shell
command: ':grep pattern files'

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Asterisk

2008-05-06 Thread sammy ominsky

Hi,

I wonder if someone here can help me.  My customers and I have been  
experiencing extremely poor quality on our VoIP lines to the US  
lately.  i am trying to track down the problem, and wonder if someone  
could do me a favor...


I would like to install asterisk on a colocated linux box here in  
Israel to test an IAX trunk to the US.  My company was supposed to  
colocate a server here in Israel some time ago, but due to  
circumstances beyond our control the situation became rather  
complicated and it hasn't happened yet.  If this test proves that we  
can get a clean trunk between here and our Asterisk servers in the US,  
I can force the issue and make it happen, but I really need to prove  
my point first.


This install would not be used for commercial traffic, only to test a  
dedicated trunk to the US, and I would register one device to it on  
this end.  I only need to run it for a few days to a week at the most.


Thanks in advance,

--sambo

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Re: Asterisk

2008-05-06 Thread ik
I'm not sure what you are asking.

BTW with what codec are you using ? Some codecs may not work properly
(G729 without license for example, will generate the call, but you
will have problem hearing each other).

Ido

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM, sammy ominsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I wonder if someone here can help me.  My customers and I have been
> experiencing extremely poor quality on our VoIP lines to the US lately.  i
> am trying to track down the problem, and wonder if someone could do me a
> favor...
>
>  I would like to install asterisk on a colocated linux box here in Israel to
> test an IAX trunk to the US.  My company was supposed to colocate a server
> here in Israel some time ago, but due to circumstances beyond our control
> the situation became rather complicated and it hasn't happened yet.  If this
> test proves that we can get a clean trunk between here and our Asterisk
> servers in the US, I can force the issue and make it happen, but I really
> need to prove my point first.
>
>  This install would not be used for commercial traffic, only to test a
> dedicated trunk to the US, and I would register one device to it on this
> end.  I only need to run it for a few days to a week at the most.
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>
>  --sambo
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Re: Asterisk

2008-05-06 Thread sammy ominsky

On 06/05/2008, at 21:49, ik wrote:


I'm not sure what you are asking.


I'm asking if someone has a linux box in a data center that I can  
install asterisk on, or that already has asterisk installed, that I  
can register to an asterisk server in the US with IAX.  I would also  
want to connect one device to the same server on this side for  
testing.  If I can get good voice quality this way, it will show that  
it is time to push harder to get our own server in colo already, for  
the benefit of our customers here in Israel.





BTW with what codec are you using ? Some codecs may not work properly
(G729 without license for example, will generate the call, but you
will have problem hearing each other).


We are using a variety of codecs, G729 among them, with a license.  We  
are an actual phone company in the US, as well as a VoIP provider,  
mainly here in Israel to olim.


http://bwtel.com
http://olehphone.com

Thanks,

sambo




Ido

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM, sammy ominsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I wonder if someone here can help me.  My customers and I have been
experiencing extremely poor quality on our VoIP lines to the US  
lately.  i
am trying to track down the problem, and wonder if someone could do  
me a

favor...

I would like to install asterisk on a colocated linux box here in  
Israel to
test an IAX trunk to the US.  My company was supposed to colocate a  
server
here in Israel some time ago, but due to circumstances beyond our  
control
the situation became rather complicated and it hasn't happened  
yet.  If this
test proves that we can get a clean trunk between here and our  
Asterisk
servers in the US, I can force the issue and make it happen, but I  
really

need to prove my point first.

This install would not be used for commercial traffic, only to test a
dedicated trunk to the US, and I would register one device to it on  
this

end.  I only need to run it for a few days to a week at the most.

Thanks in advance,

--sambo

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Re: Asterisk

2008-05-06 Thread sara fink
Speaking of codecs, I found that GSM works the best because it is the
most compressed. And with the bad bandwidth here, it proved for me as
the best.

You can try alaw and ulaw.

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure what you are asking.
>
>  BTW with what codec are you using ? Some codecs may not work properly
>  (G729 without license for example, will generate the call, but you
>  will have problem hearing each other).
>
>  Ido
>
>  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM, sammy ominsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >  I wonder if someone here can help me.  My customers and I have been
>  > experiencing extremely poor quality on our VoIP lines to the US lately.  i
>  > am trying to track down the problem, and wonder if someone could do me a
>  > favor...
>  >
>  >  I would like to install asterisk on a colocated linux box here in Israel 
> to
>  > test an IAX trunk to the US.  My company was supposed to colocate a server
>  > here in Israel some time ago, but due to circumstances beyond our control
>  > the situation became rather complicated and it hasn't happened yet.  If 
> this
>  > test proves that we can get a clean trunk between here and our Asterisk
>  > servers in the US, I can force the issue and make it happen, but I really
>  > need to prove my point first.
>  >
>  >  This install would not be used for commercial traffic, only to test a
>  > dedicated trunk to the US, and I would register one device to it on this
>  > end.  I only need to run it for a few days to a week at the most.
>  >
>  >  Thanks in advance,
>  >
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Re: mknod

2008-05-06 Thread Ohad Levy
Thanks to anyone who replied, this was really helpful!

Ohad

2008/5/5 Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Ohad Levy wrote:
>
> for embedded platform development, its required to create devices which
> are hardware specific (i.e. our own modules).
>
> any way to reduce the risk?
>
> Thanks
>
> Are these modules loaded into the running kernel, or are they just being
> created so they can be saved to the image for later extraction on the actual
> platform.
>
> If the former, I don't know the details, but it should be possible to
> construct the modules such that when they are loaded udev will automatically
> create the device files for them. Then give them access to insmod and rmmod
> (via sudo) only for those specific modules.
>
> If it's the later, then there is no need to give them root permission, of
> any kind, at all. Use fakeroot (or my very own fakeroot-ng) to create
> something that appears to the process that created them to be device files.
> Then run tar/mkcramfs/mksquashfs/whatever from within the same fake root
> process, and it will create the image with the right permissions.
>
> Last, you can give them sudo permissions to create only the specific
> device files needed. This is only recommended for the first case, though.
>
> Sample session with fakeroot-ng:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mkdir /tmp/dir
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /tmp/dir
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ fakeroot-ng -pstate mkdir dev
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ fakeroot-ng -pstate mknod dev/sda b 8 0
>
> Notice how the "mknod" call succeeded. Did it create a block device?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ ls -la dev
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x 2 sun sun 4096 May  5 14:51 .
> drwxr-xr-x 3 sun sun 4096 May  5 14:51 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 sun sun0 May  5 14:51 sda
>
> No. sda is just a regular file. However, fakeroot will tell you it did:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ fakeroot-ng -pstate ls -la dev
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May  5 14:51 .
> drwxr-xr-x 3 sun  sun  4096 May  5 14:51 ..
> brw-r--r-- 1 root root 8, 0 May  5 14:51 sda
>
> Suddenly it's owned by root, and is a block device, just like it's
> supposed to be. Let's tar the directory from within fakeroot-ng:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ fakeroot-ng -pstate tar cvzf dev.tgz dev
> dev/
> dev/sda
>
> Now, even without fakeroot-ng, the tar file contains a block device owned
> by root:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ tar tvzf dev.tgz
> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2008-05-05 14:51 dev/
> brw-r--r-- root/root   8,0 2008-05-05 14:51 dev/sda
>
> If we examine the directory we will also see the "state" file, where
> fakeroot-ng stored the data between invocations so that it can be consistent
> in how it lies:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/dir$ ls -la
> total 160
> drwxr-xr-x  3 sun  sun4096 May  5 14:52 .
> drwxrwxrwt 14 root root 143360 May  5 14:51 ..
> drwxr-xr-x  2 sun  sun4096 May  5 14:51 dev
> -rw-r--r--  1 sun  sun 143 May  5 14:52 dev.tgz
> -rw-r--r--  1 sun  sun 150 May  5 14:52 state
>
> Obviously, nothing is owned by root.
>
> You can get fakeroot from http://fakeroot.alioth.debian.org/, and
> fakeroot-ng from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fakerootng. Fakeroot is
> automatically available in any version of Debian that was released for the
> past, oh, at least 10 years. Fakeroot-ng is available in Sid and Lenny.
>
> Shachar
>


Re: Asterisk

2008-05-06 Thread Ohad Levy
ilbc is the best "compression wize" but takes the most of the cpu.

I can have up to four gsm channels on my linksys openwrt box :)

Ohad

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:10 AM, sara fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Speaking of codecs, I found that GSM works the best because it is the
> most compressed. And with the bad bandwidth here, it proved for me as
> the best.
>
> You can try alaw and ulaw.
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you are asking.
> >
> >  BTW with what codec are you using ? Some codecs may not work properly
> >  (G729 without license for example, will generate the call, but you
> >  will have problem hearing each other).
> >
> >  Ido
> >
> >  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:21 PM, sammy ominsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Hi,
> >  >
> >  >  I wonder if someone here can help me.  My customers and I have been
> >  > experiencing extremely poor quality on our VoIP lines to the US
> lately.  i
> >  > am trying to track down the problem, and wonder if someone could do
> me a
> >  > favor...
> >  >
> >  >  I would like to install asterisk on a colocated linux box here in
> Israel to
> >  > test an IAX trunk to the US.  My company was supposed to colocate a
> server
> >  > here in Israel some time ago, but due to circumstances beyond our
> control
> >  > the situation became rather complicated and it hasn't happened yet.
>  If this
> >  > test proves that we can get a clean trunk between here and our
> Asterisk
> >  > servers in the US, I can force the issue and make it happen, but I
> really
> >  > need to prove my point first.
> >  >
> >  >  This install would not be used for commercial traffic, only to test
> a
> >  > dedicated trunk to the US, and I would register one device to it on
> this
> >  > end.  I only need to run it for a few days to a week at the most.
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks in advance,
> >  >
> >  >  --sambo
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failed to load module

2008-05-06 Thread Ohad Levy
Hi All,

Lately I've noticed a new problem, it seems that I'm unable to load a
certain module in my system.
as far as I'm aware, I didn't change anything (no new kernel, no new modules
were loaded etc) this system is considered a stable system.

I've tried to Google for it, but I found only questions with no answers, and
I've seen this error message for different modules.
in my case, its the lirc_serial module which cannot load.

doing a modprobe, results with the following error in dmesg:

kobject_add failed for lirc_serial.0 with -EEXIST, don't try to register
things with the same name in the same directory.

Call Trace:
 [] kobject_shadow_add+0x182/0x18d
 [] device_add+0xa1/0x726
 [] platform_device_add+0xda/0x13f
 [] :lirc_serial:init_module+0x2d/0x2f2
 [] :lirc_serial:init_module+0x0/0x2f2
 [] :lirc_serial:init_module+0x0/0x2f2
 [] sys_init_module+0xad/0x168
 [] system_call+0x7e/0x83

insmod /lib/modules/2.6.21.5/misc/lirc_serial.ko
insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.21.5/misc/lirc_serial.ko': -1 File
exists

lsmod |grep lirc
lirc_dev   18312  0

anyone has any idea how to debug this?

Thanks,
Ohad