SUCCESS (Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?)

2008-11-08 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:56 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> Hi Omer,
> 
> So now it works? :)

YES, IT WORKS NOW!

> On Sunday 09 November 2008 01:04:10 Omer Zak wrote:
> > > > > 1) Your firewall is blocking
> >
> > This turned out to have been the case.
> > The following iptables commands fixed the problem
> > (where:   IPTABLES="/sbin/iptables"
> >   INET_IFACE="ppp+"):
> >
> > $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p 41 -i $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT
> > $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p 41 -o $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT

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Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?

2008-11-08 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi Omer,

So now it works? :)

On Sunday 09 November 2008 01:04:10 Omer Zak wrote:
> Hello Noam,
> I may not have clarified myself.
> Basically, when I set wireshark to listen to sit1, it captures my
> ping6's Echo Request packets - but no replies.
>
> I also found that there are no ppp0 or eth1 traffic corresponding to the
> ping6-created sit1 traffic (my PC has two Ethernet cards, and eth1 is
> the one which is connected to the ADSL modem; I use pptp and it creates
> the network device ppp0; in other words, any IPv6 traffic is supposed to
> pass through sit1->ppp0->eth1 and back).
>
> I did see ppp0 traffic when tspc creates a tunnel, and it indicates
> success in connecting to anon.freenet6.net (the IPv6 tunnel broker which
> I use, as it supports anonymous logins).
>
> After reading the "2008-08-25 - Configuring IPv6 using AARNet's free
> broker" article at http://www.nick-andrew.net/ I found that my iptables
> firewall blocked protocol 41 packets in both input and output.
>
> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 22:11 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> > > When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response.  According to
> > > wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo
> > > replies. I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6:
> > > sit0,sit1 - no response.
> > > sit,tun - unknown iface.
> >
> > You shouldn't see any ICMPv6 traffic! TSPC tunnels everything via
> > IPv4/IPv4UDP, so no ICMPv6 should be visible.
>
> See my comment above.
>
> > > I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I
> > > both sit0 and sit1) - no response.
> > >
> > > > So I see two options:
> > > > 1) Your firewall is blocking
>
> This turned out to have been the case.
> The following iptables commands fixed the problem
> (where:   IPTABLES="/sbin/iptables"
>   INET_IFACE="ppp+"):
>
> $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p 41 -i $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT
> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p 41 -o $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT
>
> --- Omer


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Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?

2008-11-08 Thread Omer Zak
Hello Noam,
I may not have clarified myself.
Basically, when I set wireshark to listen to sit1, it captures my
ping6's Echo Request packets - but no replies.

I also found that there are no ppp0 or eth1 traffic corresponding to the
ping6-created sit1 traffic (my PC has two Ethernet cards, and eth1 is
the one which is connected to the ADSL modem; I use pptp and it creates
the network device ppp0; in other words, any IPv6 traffic is supposed to
pass through sit1->ppp0->eth1 and back).

I did see ppp0 traffic when tspc creates a tunnel, and it indicates
success in connecting to anon.freenet6.net (the IPv6 tunnel broker which
I use, as it supports anonymous logins).

After reading the "2008-08-25 - Configuring IPv6 using AARNet's free
broker" article at http://www.nick-andrew.net/ I found that my iptables
firewall blocked protocol 41 packets in both input and output.


On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 22:11 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> > When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response.  According to
> > wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo replies.
> > I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6:
> > sit0,sit1 - no response.
> > sit,tun - unknown iface.
> >
> 
> You shouldn't see any ICMPv6 traffic! TSPC tunnels everything via 
> IPv4/IPv4UDP, so no ICMPv6 should be visible.

See my comment above.

> > I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I
> > both sit0 and sit1) - no response.
> >
> > > So I see two options:
> > > 1) Your firewall is blocking

This turned out to have been the case.
The following iptables commands fixed the problem
(where:   IPTABLES="/sbin/iptables"
  INET_IFACE="ppp+"):

$IPTABLES -A INPUT -p 41 -i $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT
$IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p 41 -o $INET_IFACE -j ACCEPT

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Re: distro with ntfs built in the kernel

2008-11-08 Thread sara fink
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 07:41:32PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:58:48PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> > > > I want to boot a livecd, and use dd to create image of asus eee 901
> which
> > > > has 2 partitions of ntfs (in total 12gb).
> > >
> > > Why would that require ntfs support?
> >
> >
> > The laptop came with windows xp home. I want to backup all the stuff
> > (drivers specific to this asus eee) before I connect the laptop to the
> > internet.
> > The partitions are ntfs and the backup hd is also ntfs.
> > I tried some livecd distributions and they didnt come with ntfs support.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > And even if you did want to mount that partition, you could easily
> > > include the ntfs module in the initrd. On a Debian system you can force
> > > including a module in the initrd by adding it to
> > > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules .
> >
> >
> > But this is if I install the distribution? I just want to boot from
> livecd,
> > dd to iso and burn the iso. Will install first of all,  a normal windows
> > system and after windows will finish the duties, will wipe it and install
> > linux.
>
> dd does not require ntfs drivers in the kernel. It is just a simple
> image of the partition.


I tried yesterday with a distribution that didn't have ntfs enabled in the
kernel not as module or built in, and the external hd (ntfs) that I wanted
for backup, wasn't recognized.



>
>
> And even if you did want to mount them, modular NTFS support would have
> been fine, as you only need to read from the partition after the system
> has booted.


what do u mean by modular?



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Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?

2008-11-08 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi Omer,

On Saturday 08 November 2008 11:13:34 Omer Zak wrote:
> Hello Noam,
> Thanks for your answer.  I still need more help.
>
> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:09 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> > I have been able to do it using:
> > apt-get install tspc
>
> I installed it, too.
>
> > verify tun works:
> > ifconfig tun
>
> I do not have tun, but I have sit0 and sit1.
> Should tun exist as well?
> If yes, how do I find why wasn't it set up as well?

I have no idea who made it, my guess is it either came from tspc or openvpn

With openvpn I used, but in this case, I didn't do it, so I guess its either a 
leftover or was done when I installed:
openvpn --mktun --dev tun

>
> According to lsmod, the following modules are loaded:
> - tun
Here as well

> - sit
Not here

> - tunnel4 (used by sit)
Nope

> - ipv6 (used by sit)
Yep

>
> Am I missing anything?
>
> > and ping:
> > ipv6.google.com
> > PING ipv6.google.com(2001:4860:0:1001::68) 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=305 ms
> > 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=494 ms
> > 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=505 ms
> > ^C
> > --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
> > 5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4013ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 305.720/435.197/505.567/91.669 ms
>
> When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response.  According to
> wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo replies.
> I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6:
> sit0,sit1 - no response.
> sit,tun - unknown iface.
>

You shouldn't see any ICMPv6 traffic! TSPC tunnels everything via 
IPv4/IPv4UDP, so no ICMPv6 should be visible.

> I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I
> both sit0 and sit1) - no response.
>
> > So I see two options:
> > 1) Your firewall is blocking
> > 2) Your NAT hinders it
>
> How to check for those possibilities?

My guess is that something isn't properly configured, as wireshark didn't show 
any traffic on the TSPC port.

>
> > Try to play with tunnel_mode=v6anyv4
> > and if_tunnel_v6v4=sit1, if_tunnel_v6udpv4=tun
>
> My /etc/tsp/tspc.conf already has those settings.
>
> > You can use ethereal (wireshark) to see the data being sent on port 3653
> > - as well as the channel being built.
>
> According to wireshark, the channel does get set up.
> I suspect something is strange in the output of route -6.  How should it
> look like?
> My route -6 output looks like this (certain information was censored by
> replacing it by asterisks):
> 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 ::
> U 25600 sit1
> 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1::/128
> 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1:: UC0  80 sit1
> 2000::/3::
> U 1  00 sit1
> fe80::/64   ::
> U 25600 eth0
> fe80::/64   ::
> U 25600 eth1
> fe80::/64   ::
> U 25600 sit1
>
> ::1/128 ::
>
> U 0  78   1 lo
> 2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 ::
> U 0  01 lo
> fe80::/128  ::
> U 0  02 lo
> fe80::/128  ::
> U 0  02 lo
> fe80::/128  ::
> U 0  02 lo
> fe80:::/128   ::
> U 0  01 lo
> fe80:::/128 ::
> U 0  01 lo
> fe80:::/128   ::
> U 0  01 lo
> fe80::211:2fff::/128::
> U 0  71 lo
> fe80::2c0:cff::/128 ::
> U 0  01 lo
> ff00::/8::
> U 25600 eth0
> ff00::/8::
> U 25600 eth1
> ff00::/8::
> U 25600 sit1
>
> Thanks,
>
>  --- Omer


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# route -6
Kernel IPv6 routing table
DestinationNext Hop   Flag Met Ref Use If
2001:5c0:8fff:::eb/128 :: U256 0 0 tun
2000::/3   :: U1   0 0 tun
fe80::/64  :: U256 0 0 
eth0
fe80::/64  :: U256 0 0 tun
::/0   :: !n   -1  1 2 lo
::1/128:: Un   0   1 4 lo
2001:5c0:8fff:::eb/128 :: Un   0   1 1 lo
fe80::211:11ff:fe55:bf01/128   :: Un   0   1 0 lo
ff00::/8   

Re: distro with ntfs built in the kernel

2008-11-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh

sara fink wrote:

Hello everyone

I am looking for a livecd of any distro which has built in or as 
module ntfs in the kernel. If someone knows of such a distro, I will 
be glad to hear.

Technically - none of them.

NTFS support is only reliably done with "ntfs-3g". That is a user-space 
file system support (through FUSE).


Shachar

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Re: distro with ntfs built in the kernel

2008-11-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 07:41:32PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:58:48PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> > > I want to boot a livecd, and use dd to create image of asus eee 901 which
> > > has 2 partitions of ntfs (in total 12gb).
> >
> > Why would that require ntfs support?
> 
> 
> The laptop came with windows xp home. I want to backup all the stuff
> (drivers specific to this asus eee) before I connect the laptop to the
> internet.
> The partitions are ntfs and the backup hd is also ntfs.
> I tried some livecd distributions and they didnt come with ntfs support.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > And even if you did want to mount that partition, you could easily
> > include the ntfs module in the initrd. On a Debian system you can force
> > including a module in the initrd by adding it to
> > /etc/initramfs-tools/modules .
> 
> 
> But this is if I install the distribution? I just want to boot from livecd,
> dd to iso and burn the iso. Will install first of all,  a normal windows
> system and after windows will finish the duties, will wipe it and install
> linux.

dd does not require ntfs drivers in the kernel. It is just a simple 
image of the partition.

And even if you did want to mount them, modular NTFS support would have
been fine, as you only need to read from the partition after the system
has booted.

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Re: distro with ntfs built in the kernel

2008-11-08 Thread sara fink
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:58:48PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> > I want to boot a livecd, and use dd to create image of asus eee 901 which
> > has 2 partitions of ntfs (in total 12gb).
>
> Why would that require ntfs support?


The laptop came with windows xp home. I want to backup all the stuff
(drivers specific to this asus eee) before I connect the laptop to the
internet.
The partitions are ntfs and the backup hd is also ntfs.
I tried some livecd distributions and they didnt come with ntfs support.


>
>
> And even if you did want to mount that partition, you could easily
> include the ntfs module in the initrd. On a Debian system you can force
> including a module in the initrd by adding it to
> /etc/initramfs-tools/modules .


But this is if I install the distribution? I just want to boot from livecd,
dd to iso and burn the iso. Will install first of all,  a normal windows
system and after windows will finish the duties, will wipe it and install
linux.


>
>
> Slightly more efficiant (and maybe more portable) than dd would be to
> use partimage. Partimage backs up only the blocks from a partition that
> contain useful information. partimage 0.6.7 which I have on my system
> (Debian Lenny) lists NTFS partition support as "experimental" in its
> README.


I want to backup everything. Maybe I will find surprises after that.

>
>
> And if you want to create your own: CD/USB
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive


I want to create a cd of my own after that, but it will be a windows one, at
the begining.


>
> You can use that to either customize the initrd or create an initrd with
> your custom kernel.
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Re: distro with ntfs built in the kernel

2008-11-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:58:48PM +0200, sara fink wrote:
> I want to boot a livecd, and use dd to create image of asus eee 901 which
> has 2 partitions of ntfs (in total 12gb).

Why would that require ntfs support?

And even if you did want to mount that partition, you could easily
include the ntfs module in the initrd. On a Debian system you can force
including a module in the initrd by adding it to
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules .

Slightly more efficiant (and maybe more portable) than dd would be to 
use partimage. Partimage backs up only the blocks from a partition that 
contain useful information. partimage 0.6.7 which I have on my system
(Debian Lenny) lists NTFS partition support as "experimental" in its
README.

And if you want to create your own: CD/USB
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive

You can use that to either customize the initrd or create an initrd with
your custom kernel.

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Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?

2008-11-08 Thread Omer Zak
Hello Noam,
Thanks for your answer.  I still need more help.

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:09 +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> I have been able to do it using:
> apt-get install tspc

I installed it, too.

> verify tun works:
> ifconfig tun

I do not have tun, but I have sit0 and sit1.
Should tun exist as well?
If yes, how do I find why wasn't it set up as well?

According to lsmod, the following modules are loaded:
- tun
- sit
- tunnel4 (used by sit)
- ipv6 (used by sit)

Am I missing anything?

> and ping:
> ipv6.google.com
> PING ipv6.google.com(2001:4860:0:1001::68) 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=305 ms
> 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=494 ms
> 64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=505 ms
> ^C
> --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4013ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 305.720/435.197/505.567/91.669 ms

When I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com, I get no response.  According to
wireshark, ICMPv6 echo requests are sent, but there are no echo replies.
I tried all 4 values of -I parameter of ping6:
sit0,sit1 - no response.
sit,tun - unknown iface.

I tried to ping6 both ipv6.google.com and 2001:4860:0:1001::68 (with -I
both sit0 and sit1) - no response.

> So I see two options:
> 1) Your firewall is blocking
> 2) Your NAT hinders it

How to check for those possibilities?

> Try to play with tunnel_mode=v6anyv4
> and if_tunnel_v6v4=sit1, if_tunnel_v6udpv4=tun

My /etc/tsp/tspc.conf already has those settings.

> You can use ethereal (wireshark) to see the data being sent on port 3653 - as 
> well as the channel being built.

According to wireshark, the channel does get set up.
I suspect something is strange in the output of route -6.  How should it
look like?
My route -6 output looks like this (certain information was censored by
replacing it by asterisks):
2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 ::
U 25600 sit1
2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1::/128
2001:5c0:8fff::8000:1:: UC0  80 sit1
2000::/3::
U 1  00 sit1
fe80::/64   ::
U 25600 eth0
fe80::/64   ::
U 25600 eth1
fe80::/64   ::
U 25600 sit1
::1/128 ::
U 0  78   1 lo
2001:5c0:8fff::8000:0::/128 ::
U 0  01 lo
fe80::/128  ::
U 0  02 lo
fe80::/128  ::
U 0  02 lo
fe80::/128  ::
U 0  02 lo
fe80:::/128   ::
U 0  01 lo
fe80:::/128 ::
U 0  01 lo
fe80:::/128   ::
U 0  01 lo
fe80::211:2fff::/128::
U 0  71 lo
fe80::2c0:cff::/128 ::
U 0  01 lo
ff00::/8::
U 25600 eth0
ff00::/8::
U 25600 eth1
ff00::/8::
U 25600 sit1

Thanks,

 --- Omer


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Re: Anyone succeeded in setting up anonymous IPv6 connectivity in Debian Etch?

2008-11-08 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi Omer,

I have been able to do it using:
apt-get install tspc

verify tun works:
ifconfig tun

and ping:
ipv6.google.com
PING ipv6.google.com(2001:4860:0:1001::68) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=305 ms
64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=494 ms
64 bytes from 2001:4860:0:1001::68: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=505 ms
^C
--- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 305.720/435.197/505.567/91.669 ms


I also found 
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/tspc-debian-ubuntu-linux-configure-ipv6-tunnel/ 
as reference

But since it worked without a hitch didn't have to use it.

So I see two options:
1) Your firewall is blocking
2) Your NAT hinders it

Try to play with tunnel_mode=v6anyv4
and if_tunnel_v6v4=sit1, if_tunnel_v6udpv4=tun

They appear to (in several mailing list) allow you to circumvent the firewall 
issue.

You can use ethereal (wireshark) to see the data being sent on port 3653 - as 
well as the channel being built.

On Friday 07 November 2008 14:32:23 Omer Zak wrote:
> After installation of the tspc package (version 2.1.1-6), the tspc
> daemon can be started and when started, it sets up the sit1 interface
> (which can be viewed by /sbin/ifconfig) and ping6 to the assigned IPv6
> address works.
>
> Since I am reluctant to register for a channel broker, I use the
> anonymous login to anon.freenet6.net.
>
> The problem is that even after setting up the tunnel, attempts to ping6
> IPv6 hosts (such as ipv6.google.com or www.ipv6.uni-muenster.de) yield
> no response.
>
> Is there anything I should do besides starting the aforementioned
> daemon?
> According to http://www.howtoforge.com/using-ipv6-on-debian-etch, I
> should set up also sit0 interface.  What are the roles of sit0 and sit1,
> and why are both necessary?  Is there anything I should do to get tspc
> to set up also sit0?
>
>--- Omer


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