multiple e-mails of the same e-mail arriving in my box
Shavuah Tov, I get the same e-mail 7 or 8 times over. Is there a loop in the server sending out e-mails from members? Moshe ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
I don't know the technical details or 018. I do know that 012 provides you with a sip adapter that is plugged between the bezeq/hot modem and your PC/ordinary phone. It could be that that adapter reserve some BW for the sip packets. In any case, my experience is that both 750K ADSl/cables is sufficient for a good quality phone service, with a lightly usage for internet and phone. The sip adapter I initially had was made in the US. I assume they use a US proven technology. My current sip adapter is made by AudioCodes. 012 claims that the sip adapter they provide should work with any ISP. I had two ISPs, and in my case their claim is justified. There is also a rumor that bezeq's new generation network uses sip over copper for the phone services. --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Arie Skliarouk wrote: > From: Arie Skliarouk > Subject: Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux > To: "linux-il" > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 11:21 PM > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 13:54, Gilad Ben-Yossef > wrote: > > > Arie Skliarouk wrote: > > > > > > > > How do they solve the latency problems inherent to any > internet connection? > > > > The round trip time to a well connected (read: 0% > packet loss) server in > > Israel from an Israeli ISP, where Israel here is > defined as "connected to > > the IIX", is under 50ms. > > > > On a 150kbit upload ADSL upload of a 1500 bytes packet > takes about 85ms. To > send out the VoIP packet would take another 85ms (on > condition that you have > a really good QoS). This causes latency of 85-170ms with > jitter 85ms. The > VoIP speech (SIP protocol) has a lot of skips and is > unacceptable. > > Theory aside, I would like to hear first-hand experiences > of people with 018 > before I commit for a year of phone service with them. > > -- > Arie > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 13:54, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Arie Skliarouk wrote: On a 150kbit upload ADSL upload of a 1500 bytes packet takes about 85ms. To send out the VoIP packet would take another 85ms (on condition that you have a really good QoS). This causes latency of 85-170ms with jitter 85ms. The VoIP speech (SIP protocol) has a lot of skips and is unacceptable. SIP packets are about 100 bytes. They are even smaller with header compression, but CISCO has a patent on that, so I can't say for certain anyone else uses it. I have a US VoIP provider and they are extremely well connected to Netvision. Average ping times are slightly over 160ms. I used to have Vonage, and from Wednesday afternoon until early Sunday morning, they were unuseable. My current provider is good 24/6.5 (I'm shomer shabbat), but unlike my vonage connection, it was perfectly usable 3pm Friday, 8pm Saturday. I have a 5m/256k cable modem from hot, and a TP-Link router without QOS. Note there are other VoIP providers that do similar things, 012 provides you with a BEZEQ aDSL line and a "box", but won't let you use it for Internet, Orange makes you get the line, but provides the ISP service and "box". I have heard BBL does too, but have no desire to find out. Actually the cheap deals for outgoing calls currently are the HOT 077 service with 2,000 minutes a month to BEZEQ and 077 lines. It is not VoIP and can be used for a fax, btw. Orange's 139 NIS for combined ISP service and 600 minutes is a good deal if you use it to call cell phones, as HOT is 45ag a minute. Neither is very good if you call mostly outside of Israel. SKYPE has outgoing only service, but it is SKYPE, which is something some people love and others hate (I'm on the hate side) for $6 a month ($13 for a lot of countries). My wife is in Amsterdam for 4 days, and I seriously thought about spending the $6 for one month of an incoming Dutch number via SKYPE, but she had no landline access. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Last Day Reminder [was Re: [Telux] Next Meeting: "Private Satellite Television in Linux" on 8-March]
Hi all! This is a last-day reminder that we meet tomorrow (or probably today - 08- March-2009 in any case) at 18:30. More information can be found below. Regards, Shlomi Fish On Sunday 01 March 2009 13:35:14 Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi all! > > The Tel Aviv Open Source Club will host a talk by Erez Doron about "Private > Satellite Television in Linux" - on 08-March-2009. > > The meeting will take place at Tel Aviv University, at the Schreiber > Maths&CS building, room 008 on 18:30. So mark your calendars. For more > information can be found at: > > * http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ > > * http://wiki.osdc.org.il/index.php/Tel_Aviv_Meeting_on_08_March_2009 > > With any other problems, feel free to contact me: > > http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ > > We are always looking for presentations on interesting topics. If you have > an interesting idea for a talk, feel free to contact us and we'll > co-ordinate a date. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ My Aphorisms - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour.html I'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to achieve? mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is the last thing standing in my way! ;) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Windows Free Laptop (one more)
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:24:29 +0200 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Just FYI: > > > > - I happened to be today at an Ivory shop (http://www.ivory.co.il/) > > A friend had bought a computer from Ivory last year, fully assembled > in case with PSU and it costs less than I could have built it for her > just buying the CPU, memory, motherboard, and drives separately. It > had a dual core Intel processor, 1GB ram, and it ran Kubuntu just > fine. They seem like a decent shop with very good prices. She didn't > have any problems so I don't know how their service is, though, but it > is good to mention that I know at least one happy Ivory customer. > We've had a good experience with an msi, the wifi died, and after a couple of days we got a phone call saying that there was no hardware problem but they replaced the wireless anyway (?!? and that is after I checked with a new xp installation and ubuntu to make sure that it was actually dead, go figure). Anyway now hastle and the wireless is working again. the keyboard is a far way off compared to a t61 that we also have and a friends macbook air (amaizing keyboard, if it only wasn't so expensive and had more than one touchpad button) On the other hand a friend of mine wanted to buy a dell from them, they said that they have it in stock and he can come see it, and when he came they said that they don't have it in stock and he needs to order it in (without seeing it first), so he went off to buy it somewhere else ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: xfone 018 phone service and Linux
Hi, On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 13:54, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Arie Skliarouk wrote: > > > > How do they solve the latency problems inherent to any internet connection? > > The round trip time to a well connected (read: 0% packet loss) server in > Israel from an Israeli ISP, where Israel here is defined as "connected to > the IIX", is under 50ms. > On a 150kbit upload ADSL upload of a 1500 bytes packet takes about 85ms. To send out the VoIP packet would take another 85ms (on condition that you have a really good QoS). This causes latency of 85-170ms with jitter 85ms. The VoIP speech (SIP protocol) has a lot of skips and is unacceptable. Theory aside, I would like to hear first-hand experiences of people with 018 before I commit for a year of phone service with them. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Mako.co.il crashing Firefox?
Hi Dotan,
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:39:37PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> No, all I'm getting is a 0 length blank file. Maybe your IP address
> block is stored in a server side session.
I don't think so. I used wget to get the file containing the links as follows:
bar...@tarshish:~$ wget -O -
'http://switch248-01.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=248&ar=8technyon_vtr_n20090305_v1&ak=null'
--2009-03-07 21:12:56--
http://switch248-01.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=248&ar=8technyon_vtr_n20090305_v1&ak=null
Resolving switch248-01.castup.net... 199.203.139.118, 199.203.139.119
Connecting to switch248-01.castup.net|199.203.139.118|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1230 (1.2K) [video/x-ms-asf]
Saving to: `STDOUT'
0% [ ] 0 --.-K/s
CastUP: 8technyon_vtr_n20090305_v1
keshettv
CastUP: 8technyon_vtr_n20090305_v1
100%[>] 1,230 --.-K/s
in 0.001s
2009-03-07 21:12:57 (950 KB/s) - `-' saved [1230/1230]
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Re: Windows Free Laptop (one more)
> Just FYI: > > - I happened to be today at an Ivory shop (http://www.ivory.co.il/) A friend had bought a computer from Ivory last year, fully assembled in case with PSU and it costs less than I could have built it for her just buying the CPU, memory, motherboard, and drives separately. It had a dual core Intel processor, 1GB ram, and it ran Kubuntu just fine. They seem like a decent shop with very good prices. She didn't have any problems so I don't know how their service is, though, but it is good to mention that I know at least one happy Ivory customer. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Fwd: Windows Free Laptop (one more)
On Mar 6, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Rami Rosen wrote: - I asked about Laptops without Windows; they offered me some MSI laptops (which I didn't like so much). These MSI laptops are with freeDos I have an MSI Wind U100 and love it. It's small, lightweight and has a full sized keyboard. I run Windows XP Pro English (not the Hebrew Home version that came with it), a BSD variant, and carry a disk on key that boots Ubuntu. Since they decided not to include the Wifi drivers for it on the latest version (the one with it it won't be out until April), I did not bother allocating disk space to Ubuntu. If I had installed it, I could have manually installed the WiFi. I do about 75% of what I do under BSD, and almost all of the other 25% via ssh and now Xwindows to a Linux computer (also running Ubuntu). I only boot Windows to load a device driver that is not available for either Linux or BSD, and once it is loaded they will work with the device. Before I got the device, I booted Windows once every 3 weeks or so. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
