Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Dotan Cohen]

List members who belong to Clalit, please contact the company and
demand that they support non-IE browsers. As it is, we cannot use the
site in Linux. I need to check my lab results online, and cannot do
that!

The phone number is *2700, then 1 for Hebrew and 7 for Clalit Online
support. Thanks!

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Bank Hapoalim

[Dan Bar Dov]

I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.

I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
Windows XP and Vista.."

Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
Microsoft operating systems?
The answer was a solid yes.

Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due to
"inactivity" every 10 seconds.

Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
services even legal?

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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Ely Levy]

Bugging the poor support person is useless,
if anything you should figure out who is responsible for the klalit
computer systems
and talk to him/her. Also since less than 1% of people use linux in
Israel you might try something
a bit more convincing. Such as giving the more popular osx or browsing
from cell phone as examples.
You can also mention the growing popularity of firefox and chrome.

Ely


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> List members who belong to Clalit, please contact the company and
> demand that they support non-IE browsers. As it is, we cannot use the
> site in Linux. I need to check my lab results online, and cannot do
> that!
>
> The phone number is *2700, then 1 for Hebrew and 7 for Clalit Online
> support. Thanks!
>
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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Ely Levy]

Look at the email I sent to the person who tried the same with clalit,
I think the same apply to hapoalim
or any other big organization.

Ely

2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov :
> I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.
>
> I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
> Windows XP and Vista.."
>
> Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
> Microsoft operating systems?
> The answer was a solid yes.
>
> Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due to
> "inactivity" every 10 seconds.
>
> Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
> services even legal?
>
> Dan
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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Ori Idan]

I am using Bank Hapoalim and get logged out only after 3 minutes of
inactivity.

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2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov 

> I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.
>
> I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
> Windows XP and Vista.."
>
> Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
> Microsoft operating systems?
> The answer was a solid yes.
>
> Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due
> to "inactivity" every 10 seconds.
>
> Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
> services even legal?
>
> Dan
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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Weird..

I'm using Firefox 3.0.10, CentOS 5.3 and I'm surfing in my account in
Bank Hapoalim for more then 10 minutes. No problem at all..

Could it be a firewall issue that ends prematurely the SSL session?

Hetz

2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov :
> I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.
>
> I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
> Windows XP and Vista.."
>
> Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
> Microsoft operating systems?
> The answer was a solid yes.
>
> Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due to
> "inactivity" every 10 seconds.
>
> Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
> services even legal?
>
> Dan
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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Noam Rathaus]

Hi Dotan,

Thanks for you initiative, I have complained.

What is even weirder, that IE 8 appears to not work too well on their
site either.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> List members who belong to Clalit, please contact the company and
> demand that they support non-IE browsers. As it is, we cannot use the
> site in Linux. I need to check my lab results online, and cannot do
> that!
>
> The phone number is *2700, then 1 for Hebrew and 7 for Clalit Online
> support. Thanks!
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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Noam Rathaus]

Hi guys,

I have used Poalim from Ubuntu and Debian before, in Firefox 1.5, 2.0,
3.0 and now with 3.5 without any issues.

I can't use their Business web site as it requires an ActiveX, but
with my personal account I have no issues.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Weird..
>
> I'm using Firefox 3.0.10, CentOS 5.3 and I'm surfing in my account in
> Bank Hapoalim for more then 10 minutes. No problem at all..
>
> Could it be a firewall issue that ends prematurely the SSL session?
>
> Hetz
>
> 2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov :
>> I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.
>>
>> I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
>> Windows XP and Vista.."
>>
>> Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
>> Microsoft operating systems?
>> The answer was a solid yes.
>>
>> Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due to
>> "inactivity" every 10 seconds.
>>
>> Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
>> services even legal?
>>
>> Dan
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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Tomer Cohen]

I am actually using Bank Hapoalim with Linux without any real problems. The
biggest problem is that some text is reversed sometimes (very old issue),
which can be solved easily by changing page encoding.

When I asked them about Linux support they said they are supporting both
Windows and Mac, and that the reverse problem occurs only on Linux which is
unsupported. I tried few times to simulate the reversing problem on Windows
and tried to fix it on Linux by changing the User Agent string, no luck so
far.

I've recently written about that. If you can help - you're welcome.
http://tomercohen.com/2009/06/06/?p=597


2009/7/8 Dan Bar Dov 

> I just got off the phone, talking with Bank Hapoalim support.
>
> I got a very clear message - "We do not support Linux. We support only
> Windows XP and Vista.."
>
> Just to make sure I asked, so you support Firefox & explorer, but only on
> Microsoft operating systems?
> The answer was a solid yes.
>
> Is anyone accessing Hapoalim from Linux? When I try, I get logged out due
> to "inactivity" every 10 seconds.
>
> Is dictating the vendor of the OS I need to use in order to access internet
> services even legal?
>
> Dan
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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Dotan Cohen]

> Bugging the poor support person is useless,
> if anything you should figure out who is responsible for the klalit
> computer systems
> and talk to him/her.

But have support forward you there. Don't make it obvious "someone
told me to do this". Go complain the whole hierarchy up.

> Also since less than 1% of people use linux in
> Israel you might try something
> a bit more convincing. Such as giving the more popular osx or browsing
> from cell phone as examples.
> You can also mention the growing popularity of firefox and chrome.
>

Please do that then. Thanks!


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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Tomer Cohen]

As a workaround, have you tried using the following Greasemonkey userscript?
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/51494

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:30, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> List members who belong to Clalit, please contact the company and
> demand that they support non-IE browsers. As it is, we cannot use the
> site in Linux. I need to check my lab results online, and cannot do
> that!
>
> The phone number is *2700, then 1 for Hebrew and 7 for Clalit Online
> support. Thanks!
>
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Re: SOLVED Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use

[Lev Olshvang]

Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:


I think it's the other way around - if you exit from your linuxrc when
running from initramfs,
it'll continue on with standard boot sequence, while ending linuxrc in
initrd will panic the kernel
with "Trying to kill PID 1" error.

  
An initramfs exists for any 2.6 kernel. Sometimes it's just a very 
small one. The way the kernel decides whether to execute it is to 
check for a */init* file in it. If it finds one, it runs it. If not, 
it does not.


As such, if you have a /linuxrc file in your initramfs, and it simply 
exists at the end, all that will happen is that the kernel will not 
find a /init and will skip running anything from the initramfs at all. 
In that sense you might be said to be right that if your linuxrc 
exists, the normal boot sequence will continue.


The history goes something like this:
Originally, the drivers for the root file system had to be compiled 
into the kernel. This was very difficult, if not impossible, for 
distribution kernels, as the list of potential drivers included, well, 
everything, and the kernels were just too big. Then the idea of initrd 
came - we compile the drivers only for the ram disk and the initrd 
file system (typically, cramfs) into the kernel. The initrd loads the 
relevant drivers into the kernel and quits, restoring the original 
boot sequence. Then someone pointed out that, sometimes, an initrd is 
all you need. The convention then arose to pass "boot=/dev/ram0" to 
the kernel, which tells it that the initrd stage is the last one. It 
then became common to put the real "boot=" option on the kernel 
command line, but then, from initrd, to load the values for 
"/dev/ram0" into the proc entry for the boot device from linuxrc, 
manually mount the real root file system, make it the root file system 
using pivot_root, and exec init from there.


Then, for 2.6, people figured that if this is what you normally do 
anyways, there is no point in carrying around the drivers for the ram 
disk and cramfs (compiled into the kernel, which means it cannot be 
unloaded). Instead, use the much lighter tmpfs file system, and use a 
cpio archive for the actual files. The tmpfs file system was made 
mandatory, whether initramfs was used or not, and so you couldn't move 
it from the root (only mount on top of it). This means you cannot use 
pivot_root, and switch_root was invented. While at it, the "legacy" 
boot sequence was removed. Assuming, as Gilad seems to, that we leave 
initrd is out of the discussion, your options are either run an 
initramfs and perform the entire root mounting from the /init script 
there, or compile the root file system drivers into the kernel and let 
the kernel mount them using the boot= kernel option.


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Many thanks to all of you,

Due to some glitch, initramfs image does not have /init script.
This is the reason boot stopped. (and the required device driver was 
compiled in kernel, so the device was created)




Thanks you Again
Lev.

BTW,  is there any way to track next line from /proc/devices
8 sd

  which modules  actually made possible access to  devices  8,0  ???



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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Shlomi Fish]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009 12:30:02 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> List members who belong to Clalit, please contact the company and
> demand that they support non-IE browsers. As it is, we cannot use the
> site in Linux. I need to check my lab results online, and cannot do
> that!
>
> The phone number is *2700, then 1 for Hebrew and 7 for Clalit Online
> support. Thanks!

I did just that now. Thanks for the initiative.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Reading RTF files

[Danny Lieberman]

This is going to sound like an insanely stupid request.

How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?

Our travel agent sends us invoices in Windows RTF format. RTF support in
OO is flaky - so it plain don't work.  We run Ubuntu and Centos - no more
Windows - except 1 machine that doesn't have MS Office - and cannot read the
files either using Wordpad. Does this mean installing MS Office just to read
these files?

D

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Re: Bank Hapoalim

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 01:26:25PM +0300, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I have used Poalim from Ubuntu and Debian before, in Firefox 1.5, 2.0,
> 3.0 and now with 3.5 without any issues.
> 
> I can't use their Business web site as it requires an ActiveX, but
> with my personal account I have no issues.

Yeah, funny thing. The "personal" site works fine. The "business-class"
part is sub-standard and I just avoid it.

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Re: SOLVED Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use

[Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh]

Lev Olshvang wrote:
>
> BTW,  is there any way to track next line from /proc/devices
> 8 sd
>
>which modules  actually made possible access to  devices  8,0  ???
Dig through /sys filesystem.

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Re: Reading RTF files

[Shahar Dag]

Hello

I don't know about Linux, but under windows you can install a free reader for 
office (at list word) documents. Look for it in the Microsoft site.

Shahar
  - Original Message - 
  From: Danny Lieberman 
  To: IGLU Mailing list 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:40 PM
  Subject: Reading RTF files


  This is going to sound like an insanely stupid request.

  How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?

  Our travel agent sends us invoices in Windows RTF format. RTF support in 
OO is flaky - so it plain don't work.  We run Ubuntu and Centos - no more 
Windows - except 1 machine that doesn't have MS Office - and cannot read the 
files either using Wordpad. Does this mean installing MS Office just to read 
these files?

  D

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Re: Reading RTF files

[Geoff Shang]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:


How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?


I don't use the GUI so there may be better solutions, but I use unrtf to 
convert RTF files to HTML or plain text.  Don't know if it supports Hebrew 
but I guess it'd be easy enough to find out.


I don't know about Centos but it is a package in Debian and Ubuntu.  Note 
that it's in the Ubuntu Universe repository.


HTH,
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A good word for Orange

[Danny Lieberman]

In general - Orange customer service is a masa alonkot and their web site
wins international design prizes for most poorly designed cellular site but
-

the support for Linux and Firefox is perfect in the self-service web site
bill4u

>From time to time - we can put in a good word for the people who actually
thought about cross-browser compatibility.


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Re: Reading RTF files

[Danny Lieberman]

Geoff, Shahar
Thanks for the tips.  I tried the text to HTML route but the hebrew support
is more work than I wanted to invest.

In the end I found an old Office 2000 disk and installed it on the last
remaining XP machine in the office.

Works like a charm with hebrew output from the Gilboa agent reservation
system.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Shahar Dag  wrote:

>  Hello
>
> I don't know about Linux, but under windows you can install a free reader
> for office (at list word) documents. Look for it in the Microsoft site.
>
> Shahar
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Danny Lieberman 
> *To:* IGLU Mailing list 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:40 PM
> *Subject:* Reading RTF files
>
> This is going to sound like an insanely stupid request.
>
> How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?
>
> Our travel agent sends us invoices in Windows RTF format. RTF support
> in OO is flaky - so it plain don't work.  We run Ubuntu and Centos - no more
> Windows - except 1 machine that doesn't have MS Office - and cannot read the
> files either using Wordpad. Does this mean installing MS Office just to read
> these files?
>
> D
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Re: Reading RTF files

[Micha Silver]

Geoff Shang wrote:


On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:


How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?


I don't use the GUI so there may be better solutions, but I use unrtf 
to convert RTF files to HTML or plain text.  Don't know if it supports 
Hebrew but I guess it'd be easy enough to find out.


I don't know about Centos but it is a package in Debian and Ubuntu.  
Note that it's in the Ubuntu Universe repository.
I also am looking for a way to read these crazy formatted "rtf" 
invoices. It seems that lots of travel agents use the same maarechet. I 
tried the unrtf tip, but couldn't get anything useful. Here's the output:


---clip---
mi...@akev:~/Documents$ unrtf --text Invoice150711.rtf
This is UnRTF, version 0.19.2
By Dave Davey and Marcos Serrou do Amaral
Original Author: Zach T. Smith
Processing Invoice150711.rtf...
### Translation from RTF performed by UnRTF, version 0.19.2
### For information about this marvellous program,
### please go to http://www.gnu.org/software/unrtf/unrtf.html
### document uses ANSI character set
Warning: word not in hash
Warning: word not in hash
...
(lots more Warning lines)
...
Warning: word not in hash
### font table contains 48 fonts total
Done.
471 words were hashed.
---clip---

Any additional ideas?
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Re: Reading RTF files

[Danny Lieberman]

Not that it helps - but I found a couple bug reports on OO 3 that seem to
related to this problem.

My personal workaround was to find a machine with XP and install O2000
:-(
d

2009/7/8 Micha Silver 

> Geoff Shang wrote:
>
>  On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:
>>
>>  How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?
>>>
>>
>> I don't use the GUI so there may be better solutions, but I use unrtf to
>> convert RTF files to HTML or plain text.  Don't know if it supports Hebrew
>> but I guess it'd be easy enough to find out.
>>
>> I don't know about Centos but it is a package in Debian and Ubuntu.  Note
>> that it's in the Ubuntu Universe repository.
>>
> I also am looking for a way to read these crazy formatted "rtf" invoices.
> It seems that lots of travel agents use the same maarechet. I tried the
> unrtf tip, but couldn't get anything useful. Here's the output:
>
> ---clip---
> mi...@akev:~/Documents$ unrtf --text Invoice150711.rtf
> This is UnRTF, version 0.19.2
> By Dave Davey and Marcos Serrou do Amaral
> Original Author: Zach T. Smith
> Processing Invoice150711.rtf...
> ### Translation from RTF performed by UnRTF, version 0.19.2
> ### For information about this marvellous program,
> ### please go to http://www.gnu.org/software/unrtf/unrtf.html
> ### document uses ANSI character set
> Warning: word not in hash
> Warning: word not in hash
> ...
> (lots more Warning lines)
> ...
> Warning: word not in hash
> ### font table contains 48 fonts total
> Done.
> 471 words were hashed.
> ---clip---
>
> Any additional ideas?
> Thanks,
> --
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>
>>
>> HTH,
>> Geoff.
>>
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Re: Reading RTF files

[Dotan Cohen]

> Our travel agent sends us invoices in Windows RTF format. RTF support in
> OO is flaky - so it plain don't work.  We run Ubuntu and Centos - no more
> Windows - except 1 machine that doesn't have MS Office - and cannot read the
> files either using Wordpad. Does this mean installing MS Office just to read
> these files?
>

Danny, if the file does not contain private information then please
send me a copy of it. I am collecting DOC XLS PPS and RTF files that
do not display properly in OOo to file bugs on. Thanks!

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Re: Reading RTF files

[Dotan Cohen]

> Not that it helps - but I found a couple bug reports on OO 3 that seem to
> related to this problem.
>

It does help. What were the bug numbers?

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Re: Clalit members: please contact Clalit and demand non_IE support!

[Dotan Cohen]

> As a workaround, have you tried using the following Greasemonkey userscript?
> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/51494
>

No, and I won't. The more we bend over backwards to support these
non-IE sites, the less reason they have to fix them. There is a
problem and it needs a fix, not a workaround.


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Re: Reading RTF files

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

You can always use wine and install MS Word viewer, I think it
supports hebrew and opens RTF files without any problem.
If you have CrossOver, it's just a click to select it, then it will
auto download and install it for you.

Hetz

2009/7/8 Danny Lieberman :
> Geoff, Shahar
> Thanks for the tips.  I tried the text to HTML route but the hebrew support
> is more work than I wanted to invest.
>
> In the end I found an old Office 2000 disk and installed it on the last
> remaining XP machine in the office.
>
> Works like a charm with hebrew output from the Gilboa agent reservation
> system.
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Shahar Dag  wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I don't know about Linux, but under windows you can install a free reader
>> for office (at list word) documents. Look for it in the Microsoft site.
>>
>> Shahar
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Danny Lieberman
>> To: IGLU Mailing list
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Reading RTF files
>> This is going to sound like an insanely stupid request.
>>
>> How do I read a Windows RTF file in Hebrew?
>>
>> Our travel agent sends us invoices in Windows RTF format. RTF support
>> in OO is flaky - so it plain don't work.  We run Ubuntu and Centos - no more
>> Windows - except 1 machine that doesn't have MS Office - and cannot read the
>> files either using Wordpad. Does this mean installing MS Office just to read
>> these files?
>>
>> D
>>
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Re: Reading RTF files

[Dotan Cohen]

> You can always use wine and install MS Word viewer, I think it
> supports hebrew and opens RTF files without any problem.
> If you have CrossOver, it's just a click to select it, then it will
> auto download and install it for you.
>

If you do this let us know how it turns out. The last I tried, Word
Viewer did not work in Hebrew in wine.

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Re: Reading RTF files

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Well, Crossover 8, MS Word viewer 2003 (click it, it will download and
install it for you).

Here's a screenshot with an RTF file opened..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93198...@n00/3702673730/sizes/o/

Thanks,
Hetz

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> You can always use wine and install MS Word viewer, I think it
>> supports hebrew and opens RTF files without any problem.
>> If you have CrossOver, it's just a click to select it, then it will
>> auto download and install it for you.
>>
>
> If you do this let us know how it turns out. The last I tried, Word
> Viewer did not work in Hebrew in wine.
>
> --
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>
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
>



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Re: Reading RTF files

[Danny Lieberman]

OK - Hetz - if I have to buy a product to make Linux work like Windows I am
better off using a free MS product on Windows XP - right?

D

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo  wrote:

> Well, Crossover 8, MS Word viewer 2003 (click it, it will download and
> install it for you).
>
> Here's a screenshot with an RTF file opened..
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/93198...@n00/3702673730/sizes/o/
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> You can always use wine and install MS Word viewer, I think it
> >> supports hebrew and opens RTF files without any problem.
> >> If you have CrossOver, it's just a click to select it, then it will
> >> auto download and install it for you.
> >>
> >
> > If you do this let us know how it turns out. The last I tried, Word
> > Viewer did not work in Hebrew in wine.
> >
> > --
> > Dotan Cohen
> >
> > http://what-is-what.com
> > http://gibberish.co.il
> >
>
>
>
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>



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Re: Reading RTF files

[Danny Lieberman]

Hetz

It's not just the economic illogic of buying Cross Over 8 to support a free
Microsoft product - which is an amazing idea in it's own right.

I personally think it's pathetic to have to install an emulator to read an
RTF file which is about as simple as it gets.



my 2c
dL


On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo  wrote:

> Well, Crossover 8, MS Word viewer 2003 (click it, it will download and
> install it for you).
>
> Here's a screenshot with an RTF file opened..
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/93198...@n00/3702673730/sizes/o/
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> You can always use wine and install MS Word viewer, I think it
> >> supports hebrew and opens RTF files without any problem.
> >> If you have CrossOver, it's just a click to select it, then it will
> >> auto download and install it for you.
> >>
> >
> > If you do this let us know how it turns out. The last I tried, Word
> > Viewer did not work in Hebrew in wine.
> >
> > --
> > Dotan Cohen
> >
> > http://what-is-what.com
> > http://gibberish.co.il
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Skepticism is the lazy person's default position.
> my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org
>



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Re: SOLVED Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use

[Gilad Ben-Yossef]

Lev Olshvang wrote:




BTW,  is there any way to track next line from /proc/devices
8 sd

   which modules  actually made possible access to  devices  8,0  ???


The information is available via sysfs some where ...

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Re: Reading RTF files

[Micha Silver]

Danny Lieberman wrote:


  Hetz
  
It's not just the economic illogic of buying Cross Over 8 to support a
free Microsoft product - which is an amazing idea in it's own right.
  
I
personally think it's pathetic to have to install an emulator to read
an RTF file which is about as simple as it gets.
  
  

True, and yet, nevertheless, lots of travel agents use some software
for creating these heshboniot in "rtf" format that are unreadable
except in MS Office.
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my 2c
dL
  
  
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Hetz Ben
Hamo  wrote:
  Well,
Crossover 8, MS Word viewer 2003 (click it, it will download and
install it for you).

Here's a screenshot with an RTF file opened..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93198...@n00/3702673730/sizes/o/

Thanks,
Hetz





  
  
  





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