Automated GUI testing with JS and AJAX
Hi, all, At my work we encountered a problem and it looks like we are re-inventing the bicycle. Someone here surely has an experience with that. We have a regressions testing lab. As a part of the testing we have to work with the web-interface of our product. (I'm intentionally vague, the details are quite irrelevant to the problem). The testing scenario includes action items like "press the button with caption 'Advanced Settings' on it". This is implemented as a C program with sockets interface, so "find a button" actually means "look for a substring in the received HTML code" and "press the button" means "create an HTTP POST message and send it". However, recently we have added some JavaScript and AJAX to the web-interface and now the testing environment must be able to run JS and even cope with things like replacing part of the DOM tree. We can see three possible directions to tackle the problem: - Further fix our great testing program. After all, we know what AJAX can return -- we can manually open the connection it would open, parse the response, etc. Looks ugly and has a potential to turn into maintenance nightmare. - Setup a headless X server with Firefox running inside and some sort of scripting/management add-on. If someone has an experience with such a setup, I would appreciate pointers to specific add-ons you used. - Somehow hack off the GUI from any open-source browser and link it to our program, i.e. use it as HTML parser and JS machine. Looks unpredictably complicated, maybe not even feasible. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: Home network
Dotan Shavit wrote: On Monday 22 June 2009, Meir Michanie wrote: Hi List, I would like to know if anyone in the list can give me some advise on network wiring in a house. My advise is "Don't". Use wireless network. Exactly. Electromagnetic waves are neat, easily relocatable and easily upgradeable. I use WiFi at home and am absolutely happy with it. It is fast enough for 99% of all uses. When, once in a couple of months, I need to transfer more than few hundreds of MB, I just use a USB stick. Only once over the course of last couple of years, I needed to backup a whole HD, so I actually had to take a computer to another room and connect it back-to-back. Still easier than having the walls drilled. But be sure to do your reading about Linux support for any NIC you are about to buy. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: Help with simple Linux maintenance
Dotan Cohen wrote: All they did was take my money, and when I could not connect for three days they refused to help me. After three days I had to sign up with another ISP just to get an internet connection, and Netvision refues to let me out of my one-year contract with them. IANAL and such, but there is a law that says that you can cancel a service up to the point that they started actually giving you this service. I experienced it at the very similar situation some years ago: I switched ISPs (012 to Actcom, I think) because the former one wouldn't give the DHCP connection. Some days after a representative from 012 called me and promised that I will receive my DHCP connection and assured me that Actcom don't have grounds to keep me. So I called Actcom and cancelled the subscription. In your case I would call their bluff, send them a fax or a snail-mail letter that you are not interested in their services and have the credit company stop paying them. Again, all the usual precautions apply, IANAL, IMMV, I'm not responsible for the damage, etc. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: recommendation for a small switch?
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'm looking to buy a *cheap* 8 port gigabit switch to my house to connect all my computers. Can someone recommend a good switch (not hub) and a price or URL/phone where to buy? And please keep it on-list, as I'm looking for one, too. The "gigabit" part is tricky. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Slow GUI
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Leonid Podolny writes: > >> Fedora 10 on the other box I have feels MUCH more responsive. The >> only difference I can think of is that it has nVidia graphics card. > > Which box has nVidia? If it is the slow one that has nVidia, then > download the driver from the nVidia site and chances are you'll forget > about the problem. Well, you'll need to compile the driver for every > new kernel you decide to use, but it's trivial. > No, it's the fast one. And it already uses proprietary drivers. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Slow GUI
shimi wrote: > > I didn't say CPU-intensive; I meant "something that behaves slowly but > is not supposed to because it is NOT CPU intensive" - like ticking a > checkbox in the browser that you mentioned... the question is if DURING > the slowness (waiting for response) - does the CPU use spikes. > Ah, sorry. No, nothing. Firefox process uses some 10-15% during those seconds it takes to start, but the CPU is still quite idle. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Slow GUI
shimi wrote: > If you go to System Settings -> Desktop - do you have "Enable desktop > effects" checked? If so, try to remove it. Yes, they are. > Try a generic video driver like vesa I'll try it this evening. > > Does your user have permissions to write to the /dev/dri/card0 character > device? Yes. > Is the CPU level at single percents when you actually *do* something? > Looking on it at idle does not count :) If not, what process occupies > most CPU? Yes, when I do something CPU-intensive, the CPU is at 100%, as expected. And looking at it at idle does count -- that's exactly the problem, my box is slow even though nothing consumes the CPU. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Slow GUI
Hi, My problem is so basic that I even fail to figure out what to debug/benchmark/google, etc. My computer feels amazingly sluggish in everything that is UI-related. For instance, it takes some 10 seconds for Firefox to fire up (counting from the click on the icon). Same with Konsole -- 5 seconds. Firefox window maximization -- 3 seconds until the actual window maximizes, and some more seconds until all the menus/panels are redrawn. The time from clicking on a checkbox in a webpage till the "V" sign appears is also noticeable. It happens with both Qt and GTK applications. The machine is more than strong enough for GUI tasks -- it's T7300 with 3Gb RAM with i965 graphics. The CPU level is around single percents. The software is Gentoo Linux, KDE 4.2.3. Fedora 10 on the other box I have feels MUCH more responsive. The only difference I can think of is that it has nVidia graphics card. hdparm shows 50 MB/sec (a bit lowish, but doesn't explain orders-of-magnitude slowness I exprience). md5sum of zero-filled file of 1 Gb takes 8 seconds (the second time, so that it will be read from the cache). I can't think of other tests. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
> Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in > Israel (probably by ישפאר)? I considered it a year and a half ago, so I just called the Israel representatives of all laptop manufacturers I could think of. Sony were the only ones that plainly said that I will not get any warranty service. Most of the others claimed that they will fully respect the warranty. This could already have changed, so you should just call them (or others, if you decide to get other brand). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ditching ubuntu
Meir Michanie wrote: > Hi List, > I decided to move to fedora after using ubuntu for years, under the pressure > to resolve freeze issues in two different boxes on ubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu > 9.04. I think that this way of solving problems is wrong. I have made the same mistake way too many times. Configuration issues is a wrong reason to change distros. (For comparison, "this green chameleon artwork is so cool!" counts as a right reason). The main reason is that I have never seen an ideal distribution. The fact of life is that Fedora have its own set of annoying problems. If, by some amazing coincidence, all your hardware will work out of the box, than it will break during the next update. Saying all that, the decision of ditching ubuntu is a right one. Ubuntu sucks, and Fedora is a second-best distribution. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Paper journals
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, My employer considers purchasing a subscription to some linux journals. I mean, paper (aka hardcopy) ones. The intended public is developers, not sales/management, so it must be sufficiently technical. Can someone recommend something specific? Knowing what you guys there are doing with Linux, don't waste your time and money with Linux paper magazines. Get your employer to buy a group corporate account to Linux Weekly News instead. For my money, it's the best technical up to date technical Linux resource on the planet and it's dirt cheap: http://lwn.net/op/CorporateSubscriptions.lwn (No, I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just a happy subscriber) Absolutely. Some 4-5 years ago, when I had a pleasure of working with Tzafrir, he told me about LWN and I am a happy subscriber ever since. And it is dirt cheap for the quality of a content it provides. However, as I understand, the purpose of the whole issue is for those journals to lie around in the lobby/kitchen with people sometimes pick them up and learn a thing or two about linux. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paper journals
Hi, My employer considers purchasing a subscription to some linux journals. I mean, paper (aka hardcopy) ones. The intended public is developers, not sales/management, so it must be sufficiently technical. Can someone recommend something specific? -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc thoughts
Ori Idan wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: Ori Idan wrote: gcc as a compiler always work on a single file. For a cross reference, you need something that knows all the files, this is done by ld and it does create a cross reference, this is the map file. However, during development, I still can not link (some files and functions are broken) therefore I need different tool for the cross reference. I thought that cc would drop aside a map file and pass a compiled file to assembler. This way it doesn't really interfere with one-file-at-a-time paradigm, because the map file is a by-product, it's not really passed to the assembler afterwards. A map file would hold only information about this specific .c file (preprocessed, i.e. along with its headers). It would include the information about the file for its external user, such as list of functions defined (name and file:line for every one), non-static variables (name and file:line), etc. How to turn these files into something more useful is a different issue. At a first stage, it's possible to write an external utility that would take specified map files, reverse the data (i.e. turn "a.c defines func1(), func2()" into "func1() is defined in a.c" and "func2() is defined in a.c") and build common index. Then you would tailor it into makefiles to build project-wide index. The result will still be much better than cscope output, because you will never see header files that were never included (such as wrong architectures and not included code during kernel development). It will also correctly see your current settings of #ifdef's (again, in kernel, it means that it reflects your current .config). Cscope also sometimes fails to parse .c file correctly, such as failing to understand that some specific line is a function declaration if you put line feed between a returned value type and a name. This issue will also be gone -- the index is effectively built by the same semantical analyzer that compiler uses. A disadvantages of this approach are also clear. The data reversing part is error-prone and actually means duplicating part of the functionality of ld, so this part should somehow move to ld. Or maybe not -- for example, duplicate symbols cause ld to fail, but should not be a problem for indexer. It all requires careful design. Tell me if all the above makes any sense. Map file is not created by gcc, it is created by ld that is called by gcc after all files are compiled to object files. So it has nothing to do with the assembler. Woops, I wasn't aware of that, so I called "map file" to the files that my indexer would produce. sed "s/map/index/g" all the above -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc thoughts
Ori Idan wrote: gcc as a compiler always work on a single file. For a cross reference, you need something that knows all the files, this is done by ld and it does create a cross reference, this is the map file. However, during development, I still can not link (some files and functions are broken) therefore I need different tool for the cross reference. I thought that cc would drop aside a map file and pass a compiled file to assembler. This way it doesn't really interfere with one-file-at-a-time paradigm, because the map file is a by-product, it's not really passed to the assembler afterwards. A map file would hold only information about this specific .c file (preprocessed, i.e. along with its headers). It would include the information about the file for its external user, such as list of functions defined (name and file:line for every one), non-static variables (name and file:line), etc. How to turn these files into something more useful is a different issue. At a first stage, it's possible to write an external utility that would take specified map files, reverse the data (i.e. turn "a.c defines func1(), func2()" into "func1() is defined in a.c" and "func2() is defined in a.c") and build common index. Then you would tailor it into makefiles to build project-wide index. The result will still be much better than cscope output, because you will never see header files that were never included (such as wrong architectures and not included code during kernel development). It will also correctly see your current settings of #ifdef's (again, in kernel, it means that it reflects your current .config). Cscope also sometimes fails to parse .c file correctly, such as failing to understand that some specific line is a function declaration if you put line feed between a returned value type and a name. This issue will also be gone -- the index is effectively built by the same semantical analyzer that compiler uses. A disadvantages of this approach are also clear. The data reversing part is error-prone and actually means duplicating part of the functionality of ld, so this part should somehow move to ld. Or maybe not -- for example, duplicate symbols cause ld to fail, but should not be a problem for indexer. It all requires careful design. Tell me if all the above makes any sense. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc thoughts
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: 1. compilation could be broken and you still need to browse it Yes, but you can always revert to cscope to solve compilation errors. 2. gcc don't know about cpp (preprocessor) defines First, cpp could pass this info via intermediate files. Second, this info info somehow does reach a compiler, because a debuginfo ELF section contains information about a file and a line number every instruction came from. more tricks: gcc -E gives you preprocessed file and you could check defines and ifdefs objdump -S - gives you disassemble Yes, I know. Why? -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gcc thoughts
Hi, list, This letter is probably better suited to hackers-il, but I need help from people that are better acquainted with a development process of gcc. This morning, while browsing through pages of frustratingly irrelevant cscope output, I got an idea. In every kosher *nix development environment, the cross-references (i.e. "jump to definition of this struct/function") are built by some crippled 3rd party tool (such as ctags, cscope or home-brewed set of elisp scrips). On the other hand, the only tool that actually knows what is going on during compilation is gcc, so it's only logical that it should build cross-references along the way. It would be simply fantastic. The index would reflect the actual set of #ifdef's I currently work with. It would always point you to the header file that was actually #include-d. It would be immediately useful to almost everyone in FOSS world. I have a couple of ideas, how it might be tailored into gcc running sequence. However, I'm a humble gcc user and I have almost no experience with its inner workings. The idea by itself is so obvious and on-the-surface that it everyone using gcc must come up with it sooner or later. There must be a very sound technical reason not to do so. What is it? -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card recommendation
Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, A week ago I complained here about a poor quality of ES1000 graphical chipset on our new compilation servers (also used as workstations). So basically I need you people to recommend me a card to buy. The requirements are: 1) PCI/PCI-E (the board has no AGP slots) 2) Able to run in 1280x1024 mode. 3) Supported by vanilla kernel and vanilla Xorg. (There are at least 5-6 different distros here). 4) Relatively cheap. It's simply ridiculous. Any onboard adapter would be OK, but if you buy a board without one, you're out of luck. What do I ask for? 1280x1024! Any intel chipset would do. Why is it has to be so difficult? I don't need performance, I don't need gl, I don't even know what "shader" is. I need it to run 1280x1024, period. Ahem, stupid question. Any card is supposed to work with "vesa" driver, right? So it kind of solves my problems, right? -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video card recommendation
Hi, A week ago I complained here about a poor quality of ES1000 graphical chipset on our new compilation servers (also used as workstations). So basically I need you people to recommend me a card to buy. The requirements are: 1) PCI/PCI-E (the board has no AGP slots) 2) Able to run in 1280x1024 mode. 3) Supported by vanilla kernel and vanilla Xorg. (There are at least 5-6 different distros here). 4) Relatively cheap. It's simply ridiculous. Any onboard adapter would be OK, but if you buy a board without one, you're out of luck. What do I ask for? 1280x1024! Any intel chipset would do. Why is it has to be so difficult? I don't need performance, I don't need gl, I don't even know what "shader" is. I need it to run 1280x1024, period. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Redhat archive
Hi, all, Hope it is not old news -- I know I risk to get a "Duh!" response. Anyway, today I accidentally ran into this site: http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/. Well, in a sense it IS old news, of course. You know, regularly I see postings (also here, in Linux-IL) running along the lines of "Can someone copy me a CD of RedHat 6.0?". Here they have RPMs, ISOs, everything. Funnily, the site doesn't show up in Google. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ES 1000 and fonts
Hi, Yesterday I migrated my workstation (Fedora8) at work to a new hardware. I mean, I unplugged the HD from the old box and plugged it into a new one. For some reason, the fonts at KDE became very very blurry. It is odd, because even though the underlying video card and an X driver have changed, the resolution and KDE configuration remained the same. The video card is ATI ES1000, which is supported by X.org "radeon" driver for some time now. Interestingly, in Knoppix, and fonts also seem more blurry then I remember them to be. Can it be a hardware problem? -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dns of 012
sara fink wrote: Hello Everyone I am having problems with my internet connection. Recently even syncing of my system is impossible. port 873. I get connection timeout. I also get connection timeout on dc++ hubs. I have correct port forwarding in my router. My ISP is 012. I suspect that it's a dns problem. I checked with a script for disconnections and I get No Reply from 212.116.161.38 at 13:39:56 2007-12-02: I have a fixed IP, to browse the internet. My /etc/resolv.conf looks like this: nameserver 212.116.161.38 nameserver 84.95.14.250 In wireshark I get for cachemed1.012.net.il (212.116.161.38) No such name. Can someone send me working dns of 012? Alternatively someone knows if they block ports? I have problems with gtalk in kopete port 5223, all the times I have disconnections. Thanks in advance = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name: pdns.012.net.il Address: 212.117.129.3 Name: sdns.012.net.il Address: 212.117.128.6 -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS for Linux
Leonid Podolny wrote: I think, these days all (or almost all) the cheap ones are supported by NUT. Particularly, I own this one (http://www.zap.co.il/fs.asp?PID=273870771&sog=C-UPS), and it just works The link to Zap doesn't work for some reason, so I'll give the link to some shop linked from zap: http://www.bigcomputers.co.il/Product.asp?Pid=MUSTEK600 -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UPS for Linux
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: Hi, Wow it's raining and lighting! And have no UPS for my homelinux.net! Some time ago here was a dicusson about UPS for Linux. Could somebody give me a link or send conclusions about which and where to buy suitable UPS for home Linux? Thanks Constantine Shulyupin I think, these days all (or almost all) the cheap ones are supported by NUT. Particularly, I own this one (http://www.zap.co.il/fs.asp?PID=273870771&sog=C-UPS), and it just works OK. I mean, I'm able to see battery charge and such, which probably means that I can configure it to gracefully turn off my computer during an outage. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I installed Debian 4 etch on my PC
Maxim Kovgan wrote: this seems like spam. Especially noting that it's not his first posting, and the former ones also included outputs of irrelevant arbitrary UNIX commands. On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 13:25 +0100, Web Master wrote: Hi everyone, I installed Debian 4 Etch on my PC. Earlier time I have got many mail, where the writer said: my linux (Mandriva, SuSE, Fedora, etc) is not a serious operating system. Now I am working on Debian I tried the apt-get install (remove, as so on) command, the dpkg command, and the synaptic package manager software. What is the other advantage of this OS? On my PC the following server softwares are running: debian:~# nmap -A localhost Starting Nmap 4.11 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2007-11-14 12:38 CET Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1): Not shown: 1660 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 21/tcpopen ftp ProFTPD 1.3.0 23/tcpopen telnet Linux telnetd 25/tcpopen smtpPostfix smtpd 53/tcpopen domain 80/tcpopen httpApache httpd 2.2.3 ((Debian) mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.4.4 PHP/5.2.0-8+etch7 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8) 110/tcp open pop3Courier pop3d 111/tcp open rpcbind 2 (rpc #10) 113/tcp open ident OpenBSD identd 139/tcp open netbios-ssn Samba smbd 3.X (workgroup: MSHOME) 143/tcp open imapCourier Imapd (released 2005) 445/tcp open netbios-ssn Samba smbd 3.X (workgroup: MSHOME) 548/tcp open afpovertcp? 631/tcp open ipp CUPS 1.2 853/tcp open mountd 1-3 (rpc #15) 901/tcp open httpSamba SWAT administration server 953/tcp open rndc? 2049/tcp open nfs 2-4 (rpc #13) 3128/tcp open squid-http? 3306/tcp open mysql MySQL 5.0.32-Debian_7etch1-log 1/tcp open httpWebmin httpd PÁRATLAN AKCIÓ MOST! Mosógépek,mosogatógépek, beépíthető gépek ORSZÁGOS kiszállítással az AEGshop.hu-tól http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,222445,270525/click.prm -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird chroot/su/setreuid issue [solved]
Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, I have an issue that I fail to solve on my own. Sorry for self-replying. The +x bit on chroot directory somehow fell down during the installation process. A day of digging and one stupid bit. That's why we love this OS. :) -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weird chroot/su/setreuid issue
Hi,
I have an issue that I fail to solve on my own.
My workstation is an F7 box, but I have an ancient RH8 installation
sitting in one of the directories. I need it to run a GUI for Continuus
CM, that crashes on any modern distro.
Yesterday I upgraded a box to F8, and the old "su->chroot->su - user"
sequence stopped working. When I the "su - user" part inside chroot. I
recieve "could not open session" message.
I tried to strace a sudo process, and discovered that after it changes
its permissions, it fails to open *any* file. So I wrote a following
program:
#include
#include
#include
int main()
{
setreuid(759, 759); //Uid of the user
FILE* f = fopen("1.c", "r"); //Filename of this program
fclose(f);
}
The last line of strace on it are:
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0xf7fce000
munmap(0xf7fcf000, 111502) = 0
setreuid32(0x2f7, 0x2f7)= 0
brk(0) = 0x804a000
brk(0x804b000) = 0x804b000
open("1.c", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
I fail to see why is that.
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Re: Recommending a good printer.
Meir, hi, Sorry for being such a nag, but every time you intend to start a new thread, you seam to reply to a random one in a previous one. It confuses my Thunderbird (or, I guess, any other mail client that looks on th "In-Reply-To:" field). For example, this discussion is still in the asterisk hardware thread. Could you please write a new mail every time you mean to start a new thread? Sorry again. Meir Michanie wrote: Office depot is selling a laser printer samsung 1610 (350 shekel after refund) It is a truly plug and play with ubuntu and cups. A total different experience from lexmark that rather you needed to install their own closed driver or emulate an HP printer. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8139 network card installation
Nadav Har'El wrote: [snip] and this last problem was solved a few days ago when Linux 2.6.23 came out (and Fedora shipped it a couple of days later), with support for the off-chipset PATA controller on my motherboard. [snip] Huh? 2.6.23 is not shipped in fedora yet. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] SVN commercial support
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > > If you do not have at least 30 developers then the admin overhead that > ClearCase requires will be very expensive for you in relation to the > advantages that it offers. > Regards, > We have 5 times this amount. So, from reading at this list I begin to think that I'm wrong about SVN... -- ------------ Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-52-4781423 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] SVN commercial support
Hi, My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing -- light, simple, yet powerful. (And infinitely cheaper, of course.) The basic reasoning behind choosing ClearCase is simple -- the management needs someone to provide us with support and help us in case of technical difficulties. So basically I am looking for some company that will be able to provide us with the technical support for SVN. I think that another reason behind ClearCase is that they have actual sales people. So it would be nice if that company would be able to send someone with nice PowerPoint presentations, that will be able to explain to VPR&D how vastly superior SVN is, compared to any other offering. Any suggestions or recommendations? Thanks, = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: limiting cpu
Erez D wrote: it seems you may be right as flashblock didn't solve the 100% cpu problem ... please do send the script if you have it Sent off-list. -- Leonid Podolny | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Software Engineer| +972- 3-7668960 Linux Platform Team | +972-54-5696948 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: limiting cpu
Erez D wrote: hi i encountered a problem with firefox and ynet. i usually open the main page, then open the relevant articles in new tabs, so i need not wait for them to load ... the problem is that firefox goes to 100% cpu many times on Ynet. to stop it, i need to go tab after tab and press the 'stop' icon. is there a way, other then using nice (which doesn't really do what i want) to limit cpu usage of an app ? is there a way to limit firefox to a certain amount of cpu (not via nice) is there a way to limit a tab ? 10x, erez. Once, a friend at my former work took the matter with Ynet and CPU personally, actually looked into an HTML code and came up with an amazing thing: the hog is actually a ticker in a upper right corner. I think I still have a greasemonkey script that solves the problem. I'll send it to you at the evening, if you want. -- -------- Leonid Podolny |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | /"\ || \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Software Engineer |+972- 3-7668960 | x Against HTML Mail Linux Platform Team |+972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 971D 02EE 5CB2 5FF7 6291 9CA1 3954 71AE 1CDB D5E4 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1CDBD5E4 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSI Laptops under Linux
I considered buying an MSI laptop a while ago and it worths noting that they serve as an OEM for LG. For every model LG have a parallel one. A friend of mine installed some recent version of OpenSUSE on MSI s262 and everything, including WiFi, worked out of the box. But, then again, go figure what SuSE put in there. The reason that I didn't buy it was that apparently Ivory has notoriously bad service. Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Daniel Feiglin wrote: >> Has any one tried running MSI Laptops under Linux? >> >> Specifically has anyone tried the VR600 model? >> >> What's interesting about it: >> 1. It's not too expensive >> 2. You can buy it locally without a pre-installed OS >> 3. The reseller (in this case Ivory) claims that they support it at >> their various centers i.e. you're not stuck with a third party importer >> with one location here. >> >> Thanks, >> >> DAF >> >> >> > For Sara Fink: > > Oron's remarks about Ivory are correct. You can see the details at of > the VR600 here: > > http://www.ivory.co.il/product.asp?productid=427&CatCode=315 > > Note that the price is for the dual core. It's always worth getting a > price quotation with specific h/w details. You can buy over the Internet > - but I wouldn't for this. Sitting across the table from a sales rep can > give better results. > > About drivers etc - surely that depends on what's on the MB? This thing > uses "known" components, AMI BIOS. In any event, I posted my query to > find out about specific known "gotchas". > -- Leonid Podolny |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | /"\ || \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Software Engineer |+972- 3-7668960 | x Against HTML Mail Linux Platform Team |+972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 971D 02EE 5CB2 5FF7 6291 9CA1 3954 71AE 1CDB D5E4 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1CDBD5E4 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Char devices and udev
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > First, is your "generic character device" hooked into the object model > and sysfs? if yes, udev might create device nodes for it > automatically. If not, that's the first thing to fix. Apparently, it isn't, as I didn't explicitly handle it. Frankly, I always thought that the kobject ans sysfs stuff is taken care of somewhere in cdev_init() and doesn't require any special handling. So I guess a little code reading is due here. > If it is and > udev doesn't do the right thin, you probably need to add a udev rule > for it. More intelligent answer is contingent on more info - e.g., > which devices. Thanks, but once I have a sysfs node, I'll manage by myself. There is an excellent primer. -- -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Char devices and udev
Hi, Either I'm missing something very obvious, or udev doesn't support generic (i.e. non-tty, non-dev-null, etc) character devices. Can it possibly be? As a matter of fact, I tried to compare the state of the /sys tree before and after the device registers itself and haven't seen any notable difference. Currently, the /dev nodes are created by a little /etc/modprobe.d/ scriptlet, which deletes the old nodes, then greps the /proc/devices and creates all the relevant nodes, but this scriptlet grows messy and the udev solution looks fantastic. -- -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firefox friendly credit card service
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > Slightly off topic, but bank websites are also not compatible with > Firefox. For example, Bank Hapoalim website (the only one I checked so > far) is not compatible with Firefox. Unless you prefer to read Hebrew > from left to right! (and that's not the only problem). >From my experience, both sites I use (www.bankhapoalim.co.il and www.americanexpress.co.il) have one huge advantage over all the other bank and credit companies' sites -- they are usable. Apart from occasional RTL problems, I can do every action the site supports and never get this frustrating "upgrade your browser, you freak" message as in Discount, for instance. So I wouldn't use the "not compatible" term, but rather "a bit buggy". -- ------------ Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telux: "Grid Computing" on 12 February
Shlomi Fish wrote: > The Tel Aviv Linux Club (Telux - http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ ) > will gather again to hear the presentation of Herouth Maoz about > "GIMP 2.2". GIMP is a powerful image manipulation program for UNIXes, Windows > > and Mac OS X. > > The presentation will take place on Sunday, 12 March 2006, at 18:30, in room > 008 of the Schreiber building in Tel Aviv University. More details can be > found on the site. > > Attendance is free of charge, and everyone are welcome. > > Hope to see you all there! > > Upcoming presentations: > > 26/3 - Linux Kernel Tuning and Customization - Vitaly Karasik > 9/4 - Embedded Linux Bring-Up - A Short War Story - Ori Idan > Shlomi, please, if you can't refrain from using this list as your personal announcement list, at least try to keep subjects and messages bodies relevant. -- -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Babylon scare tactics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gadi Cohen wrote: > is illegal. Making legal threats that can't be backed up (i.e. if the > means used to collect the info is illegal), is illegal. Both of these > are adequate grounds for a class action suit against the company > involved. A friend of mine, then a lawyer in the beginning of his carreer, once told me over dinner that he was shocked to realize how unfair our legal system is. One of the examples was that if the defendant proves that the evidence was achieved illegally, it doesn't automatically discard the evidence, (as it does in US). For example, unauthorized cellphone tapping (!!) or marijuana weighed together with the recepticle it is in, are acceptible in the court. They only serve as a recomendation to the judge to give them less weight in his decision. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD+NS6sREYuIBY8OIRAnZfAKCCXO8QG4AlBY0GAyKvESpTFHbqewCgvyk8 Ay0ndotoxBar2Gcj5GLHh/Q= =fXfC -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JTAG flashing at linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, list, I currently investigate if it's possible to reprogram the PLD on our card via JTAG using open software tools. Currently we use the xilinx proprietary utility. After some googling around I have suprisingly come up with almost nothing. There is a jtag project (which is dormant for about three years and thus doesn't support the flash chip on our card) and that's about it. This just doesn't make any sense -- the flashing process is IEEE standartized and the chips are wide-spread (Xilinx XCF family). I don't think it's possible that noone tried to flash them before me. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD4LLAsREYuIBY8OIRAoYwAJ96owjgsWEvC1gqzn3KBlxXaJn0nwCgn39P DrPgjwjXHhEOXRzjK+Absbk= =bcr4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 guy keren wrote: > > next time 'dd' (or a similar tool that can read the raw device) is your > friend ;) > I know, I know. I tried to dd from some disk after the last detected device, but missed the last physical device, so dd failed. And as it fitted nicely into my "sd_mod registers only 128 devices" vision of the world, I didn't bother to double check it. After some (hours of) poking around, I finally looked into the sources of sg_map and saw it. The overall experience was very educating. :) > by the way, in SLES9 with service pack 2, there's a bug in the scsi proc > file support. if you "cat /proc/scsi/scsi" you only get part of the data. > if you "cat /proc/scsi/scsi > somefile" you'll get more data - but still > not all of it. "cat /proc/scsi/sg/devices" does work properly. > Yep, we already encountered it. - -- - Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDvAjfsREYuIBY8OIRAs5wAJ9F+E1X631yzFwMEcwF/b972RIgpgCff4M5 wMKGThDaO8/ulWpVpkDxvHw= =gkTU -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 guy keren wrote: > by the way, i saw a bug in some version of sg3-utils, which made it unable > to see devices beyond the first 128 (it did not check the 8 higher SCSI > device majors). > That's exactly it -- the sg_map binary that is provided with SLES, doesn't show more than 128 LUNs. I tweaked it a little bit and bingo. Quite silly of me -- I haven't even tried to actually mount the device I didn't see at sg_map. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDu8m+sREYuIBY8OIRAm+6AJ9gyrRKnwN29SsjRO+7l7zcNNCboQCfbYgG xppLVBw0AtV8Ha2esh+XlTM= =N0RM -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCSI troubles
Hi, I'm trying to find out how is it possible to access more than 128 SCSI disks on a reasonably recent linux box. The system is SLES9. From what I see, there are /dev/sgX entries for all the disks on this machine. Then, there are 256 /dev/sdX entries, all their majors handled by sd module (according to /proc/devices). However, I'm unable to properly use last 128 disks. When I try to use it, I get a "No such device or address" error. And sg_map is as following: [snip] /dev/sg5 /dev/sde /dev/sg6 /dev/sdf /dev/sg7 /dev/sdg /dev/sg8 /dev/sdh /dev/sg9 /dev/sdi /dev/sg10 /dev/sdj /dev/sg11 /dev/sdk /dev/sg12 /dev/sdl [snip] /dev/sg125 /dev/sddu /dev/sg126 /dev/sddv /dev/sg127 /dev/sddw /dev/sg128 /dev/sddx /dev/sg129 /dev/sg130 /dev/sg131 /dev/sg132 [snip] -- Leonid Podolny Montilio Inc. Phone: +972-9-9511944 ext.209 Mobile: +972-52-4781423 Fax:+972-9-9542430 PGP:51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCSI troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm trying to find out how is it possible to access more than 128 SCSI disks on a reasonably recent linux box. The system is SLES9. From what I see, there are /dev/sgX entries for all the disks on this machine. Then, there are 256 /dev/sdX entries, all their majors handled by sd module (according to /proc/devices). However, I'm unable to properly use last 128 disks. When I try to use it, I get a "No such device or address" error. And sg_map is as following: [snip] /dev/sg5 /dev/sde /dev/sg6 /dev/sdf /dev/sg7 /dev/sdg /dev/sg8 /dev/sdh /dev/sg9 /dev/sdi /dev/sg10 /dev/sdj /dev/sg11 /dev/sdk /dev/sg12 /dev/sdl [snip] /dev/sg125 /dev/sddu /dev/sg126 /dev/sddv /dev/sg127 /dev/sddw /dev/sg128 /dev/sddx /dev/sg129 /dev/sg130 /dev/sg131 /dev/sg132 [snip] - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDumIzsREYuIBY8OIRAvTAAKDGj9XBjCAJMW7sUq7opnQfheV4lgCfVCB/ vmhfZLFjokYpIZoSQfxtbIY= =mIL5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .bashrc not running
Try to use ./.bash_profile. As a matter of fact, I see that the ./.bashrc is actually explicitly run from ./.bash_profile.On 20/12/05, Erez D < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hii am using Centos4.2 (rhel comaptible) whenever i login, it seems that .bashrc is not running so i have tomanually issue a '. .bashrc' command.any idea ?erezTo unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] withthe word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the commandecho unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [W2L] Urgent: Lecturers Needed for Three Tel-Aviv Welcome-to-Linux Presentations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > BTW, I suggest you to be more wordy next time and to quote a larger part of > the message. It was considered as 50% spam by the Linux-IL spam filter. > Do you mean there is a server-side spam filtering? What for? The list accepts messages from subscribers only. But anyway, it's not our problem. You are not suggesting us to change the wording just to keep some stupid script happy. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXzWRfsTlJLFWufARAvQYAJ9mWtH3XhFXlEfpwvdLnIGzDcXFuACcCCZ5 8yR7T6JQmc0l5ioWrpfrtfk= =tlMc -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: photo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter wrote: > > I didn't know that the palestinian air force trains in Texas: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/14/google_earth_competition_results/page10.html > Wrong list? - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDUgTEfsTlJLFWufARAqa9AJ9Fomhbib1776It4SWvRfQb+/r14QCeN+Ys OY1giMt9acZo0Z1GYFp+YS8= =2Mx7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Procmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alon Altman wrote: > > It seems you're using an mbox file and you have passed the maximum file > size > of 4GB. I suggest either switching to maildir or archiving your old LKML > messages to a different folder. > > Alon > No, it's only 60Mb -- it's only last two months archive. - -- - ------------ Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDMTW+fsTlJLFWufARAqW/AJ9WOvr62RA8O4dYGgeZHV+5/OlpWgCfa2VX 22w9Kylxqtkum75gFiNLWiQ= =ps8D -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Procmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, For some reason my procmail rule on LKML broke down. At procmail logs I see the following: procmail: Error while writing to "mail/lkml" procmail: Truncated file to former size - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 20 11:47:20 2005 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ktimers subsystem Folder: mbox The permission bits on mail/lkml are 600, but I tried to chmod both mail/ and mail/lkml to 777, without success. I also tried to move the file aside, then filter it anew with formail and procmail. This worked, but after a couple of new mails, the scheme breaks down again. P.S. My LKML procmail recipe worked for years and strikingly, broke down on the very same day exactly one year ago. The problem was different, I failed to solve it and had to resort to this mailing list for help. I'm getting superstitious about September 17 and lkml. :) - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDMSOXfsTlJLFWufARAkteAJ4wCF8a7ambipuw8V06ICj7XeOu8QCbBinH Ufiaz1jjBonViEJrtJF7QNE= =3wOW -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quest for *nix C/C++ IDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was very happy with cscope until I started working with kernel. For some reason, it was totally impossible to work with -- missing whole directory trees, function definitions, etc. I also tried eclipse, but the only thing that was able to reliably browse the kernel source was slickedit. Tzahi Fadida wrote: > I use cscope instead of the regular ctags in gvim. > - -- - Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDHF07fsTlJLFWufARAtOWAJsHwUxUpAwFmVWFdkE0CaxujiGDAQCfXyeS K3GCkv4GoSspzPLIXqhfTbA= =o+tB -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Internet connection errors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for posting offtopic. I already talked to Bezeq and my ISP > (netvision) and both say there is no problem. Maybe someone here will > have an idea. > > I connect to the internet through Bezeq ADSL+Netvision. The last change > in my configuration, at least that I recall, was changing the modem (an > ECI 312) to be a router, a few months ago. In the last 1-2 weeks, I had > unexplained stops (cuts?) in the connection. After talking today, as I > said, with both, I looked a bit further. I ran on the modem itself ping > to the other side of the ppp connection (212.143.208.145 currently), and > I see that exactly each 519 seconds, the connection goes down for > exactly 12 seconds. The ppp connection does manage to stay up - it does > not disconnect/reconnect. But ping does not reply for 12 seconds. > > I now discovered that the connection dies only on one direction - from > the net to me. I had a gnomemeeting talk with someone and he said that > during the cut he did continue hearing me. > > Any idea anyone? > > Thanks. > > I will call both tomorrow with the added data but do not expect much. I'd call Netvision and inform them that you are leaving unless the problem will be solved very soon. They can solve it even if it's Bezeq's fault. From your point of view, you are a customer that doesn't get the service he pays for. Let them figure it out. You've done far more than they could expect from you. I think that it's pretty clear that the problem is not at your configuration, so there is hardly anything you can do. - -- - Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDC5CHfsTlJLFWufARAhsIAJwJ3ZSO3yGsQkHGrDbdZuGdv0vrrACfcLuk ZNk962UbJDIXu225aU7qXX8= =KLk/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open source driver Fiber Channel devices for Linux?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi all, > > Can anyone recommend to me a Fiber channel storage device (HBA) that has > open source drivers in Linux? We are working with QLogic ql2xxx, and they are perfect. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC+OCmfsTlJLFWufARAj/DAJ0RIyTtq9pm3Fl3uKWu8MaV/xY4IQCbBbgY vp9w5GvxnWzN0HcdjxLpJlM= =oJ1Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Possible off-topic] Decent x86_64 book
Hi, Apparently, I will be in charge of porting our (kernel-space) application from ia-32 to x86_64 (aka EM64T) which I have very little experience with. So I think I will need a good book. The Linux kernel context would be a HUGE advantage, but it is not mandatory in any way. Can someone point me to something specific or am I being too naive? -- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI devices names
Marc A. Volovic wrote: Assuming you are running devfs, you can know which device is what - since they're indicated by their host, channel, id and lun. No-no, no devfs here. Of course - devfs is being invalided out of the kernel, so you need to get friendly with sysfs and company and or udevfs. I have tried this approach. Sysfs is exactly the reason for adding the "portable accross 2.6" line. The sysfs structure appears to be different between two kernels we tried (2.6.5 as supplied with SLES9 and vanilla 2.6.12) and probably also has pecularities for every minor version. I'll look upon udevfs as soon as I get to work -- I have no acquaintance whatsoever with it. -- -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCSI devices names
Hi, list, Provided that I have a host, channel, id and lun of the physical scsi disk, what is a correct and portable way to know the /dev/sdX device name? I need the solution to be portable between different 2.6 kernel releases. The full story is this. We have a testing lab. All the computers are connected to a FC switch, which in turn is connected to a rack of SCSI disks. All the disks are visible to all the computers. After investigating a couple of woodoos we found out that, say, /dev/sda on one box does not necessarily point to the same physical disk as /dev/sda on another one. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel code browsing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Disclaimer: I don't want to start a flame war. Hi, list. Recently I came to the conclusion that the way that I work with kernel code is inefficient, and I spend too much time looking for a needed piece of code. I work with vim and cscope, but cscope is annoying. For example, if I want to know what size_t is typedef'ed to, I will recieve all the size_t variables at kernel, and then all the ssize_t variables at kernel, and then both prototypes and definitions of all the functions that return size_t or ssize_t or recieve them as an argument. Personally, I think that I need a tool that analyses a code semantically and not textually, but that's not a requirement if the tools is capable of doing its work well. My fellow workers said that they tried using Eclipse and KDevelop, but they both are very slow and are incapable of processing project as big as Linux kernel and get stuck trying to do an initial import. Bottom line: I'd like to ask all the kernel gurus out there to describe their kernel hacking environment -- editor, code browsing plug-in, general tips, etc. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCpuqkfsTlJLFWufARAk3DAJ0anf5+iQhUZPI2OaL/TGjqvEjZEACfVl6P da6P1TYYx/wP9/lvntwIRqM= =SjfB -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel weirdness -- solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > vomit inducing is a better word. Submit a patch to unroll these > suckers, mayeb the maintainers would act sanely and take it (not > counting on it though). > This macro acts as a sort of C++ template -- it unloops into generic cache lookup code. I don't think there is a better way to handle such sort of generic case. Besides, my guess is person that wrote it, is an actual maintainter of the NFS code (whoever it is). He seems to be very proud of it -- the comments are ample and he actually expains how to use it. Trying to convince him is like trying to convince someone that his child is ugly. :) - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf2LWfsTlJLFWufARAhsIAJ4vUV7Gy954FHD0Q5YUAt0kfQOqCQCfaT4e qq7rJqIkshJiL/dmGZlxnOY= =jOad -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel weirdness -- solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leonid Podolny wrote: > As I see, I have here a function that has a prototype, is called four > times, but has no implementation! :) However, it assembly code exists in > svcauth_unix.o. Any ideas where did it come from? :) I think we figured this one out. (It becomes a tradition for me to respond to my own mails.) Later at this file they do: static DefineSimpleCacheLookup(ip_map, 0) This macro expands to another one (at include/linux/sunrpc/cache.h) , which, in turn, expands to yet another one. I'm yet to figure out the whole mechanism, but this is really dirty. :) - -- - ---- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf1PXfsTlJLFWufARAi2lAJwK2FnKoNFgqdNuU3pJtPopg8XQpwCfbnGO ifLHqcPlXLach0vQ2Rl0+UM= =LInA -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ find /usr/src/linux -follow -name "*.[ch]" | xargs grep -RnH ip_map_lookup /usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:152:static struct ip_map *ip_map_lookup(struct ip_map *, int); /usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:208: ipmp = ip_map_lookup(&ipm, 1); /usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:279: ipmp = ip_map_lookup(&ip, 1); /usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:307: ipm = ip_map_lookup(&key, 0); /usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:344: ipm = ip_map_lookup(&key, 0); As I see, I have here a function that has a prototype, is called four times, but has no implementation! :) However, it assembly code exists in svcauth_unix.o. Any ideas where did it come from? :) - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCf0sFfsTlJLFWufARAt4EAJ45pf/jH+uCM6i/Hv5yjGirYj8gqACeMDSP TiJlF8jbEePaHMOdBD8ggmo= =dgE4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(solved) CFLAGS at kbuild
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leonid Podolny wrote: > I have just started working with 2.6, so my question is quite naive, I > admit. > I'm working on porting a module to 2.6. I've rewritten the Makefiles to > utilize this nice kbuild system. All the header files in the project are > concentrated at $(root)/include and all sources have to know about it. > In old Makefiles, it was done by simply > export CFLAGS = "-I $(shell pwd)/include" > Here, the kbuild system overwrites the CFLAGS option. What is a common > way to solve it? OK, OK. EXTRA_CFLAGS is my friend. Sorry for your reading time. :) - -- - ------------ Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCW8lGfsTlJLFWufARAjKxAKCJtgd5vpKuY9jXhdBjV9tzASU7OACcCVYt odPsY3JRpTD0y9jRbV+EtaE= =La2L -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CFLAGS at kbuild
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have just started working with 2.6, so my question is quite naive, I admit. I'm working on porting a module to 2.6. I've rewritten the Makefiles to utilize this nice kbuild system. All the header files in the project are concentrated at $(root)/include and all sources have to know about it. In old Makefiles, it was done by simply export CFLAGS = "-I $(shell pwd)/include" Here, the kbuild system overwrites the CFLAGS option. What is a common way to solve it? - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCW6jafsTlJLFWufARAuptAJ9DY84BD1/F7eZpRJd7ylE8Xz/piACeKtDV JhgR37rbPn6eWU0ncG6IRb0= =qyny -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unbalanaced software raid useage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eran Tromer wrote: > That's true in regard to writes, but for reads RAID1 is faster. For > example, consider a system doing extensive reads concurrently from two > files stored far apart on the (logical) disk. In RAID1 there are two > copies of the data, each with an independent disk head assembly, so > (with a good implementation) you'll end up having one disk serving the > first file and the second serving the second file, and each will only do > small disk head seeks. In RAID0, each disk contains the sole copy of > half the data in each file, so the heads will have to do long seeks back > and forth. A good disk scheduler would improve things somewhat, but the > effect is still there. > It's RAID-0 here, so I expect the performance (read, write and overall) to be better. What's ruining the performance is a disbalance between disks. What causes this disbalance -- that's the question. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCU72+fsTlJLFWufARAjgFAJ0etSlDzMP8HlSoPBpZ4gKtC2DlCwCeLKsT 30zM0mFSnypoKb5u3p+glx4= =/mgf -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unbalanaced software raid useage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leonid Podolny wrote: > I'm having a weird problem with an MD raid. The configuration is as > follows: 16 SCSI disks connected in pairs into MD raid-0. Ira Abramov wrote: > > well, if you are writing more than one copy of each sector, of course > you'll see a drop in performance, what did you think? I do use raid-0. That's the whole idea. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCU7z4fsTlJLFWufARAr/SAJ0WI5j1LNC57EPcsQBwqpya+Q0nZQCeJOsm p6StxEl4bYS3OlvSrMbh2HQ= =Q23l -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unbalanaced software raid useage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leonid Podolny wrote: > Hi, list. > I'm having a weird problem with an MD raid. The configuration is as > follows: 16 SCSI disks connected in pairs into MD raid-0. /dev/sda and > /dev/sdb form /dev/md0, etc. The machine is dual xeon running rh9. > I'm running a stress test on the machine and I get inadequate results. > iostat shows about 80% utilization on all the "first" disks (sda, sdc, > sde, etc) and about 20% utilization on all the "second" disks. > After reading my own letter, I think that my point is not very clear. When I run the same test on 16 separate disks (i.e. no RAID) all the disks work at about 90% and the overall result is significantly (~70%) better. Thus, it looks like software raid ruins the performance instead of improving it. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCU6RKfsTlJLFWufARAt/IAJ4492H2yoOWrNHcUXwN79KNn/YuFgCfYc5P ZefoEP78YH0n4KzoeOn1eZE= =XHv+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unbalanaced software raid useage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, list. I'm having a weird problem with an MD raid. The configuration is as follows: 16 SCSI disks connected in pairs into MD raid-0. /dev/sda and /dev/sdb form /dev/md0, etc. The machine is dual xeon running rh9. I'm running a stress test on the machine and I get inadequate results. iostat shows about 80% utilization on all the "first" disks (sda, sdc, sde, etc) and about 20% utilization on all the "second" disks. - -- - -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCU5pFfsTlJLFWufARApA3AJwL1rcnrsS5T+Aded/cLRwsLmMj7gCdGgnd g4pxmFPnL0GzdEkQyhHv1Cg= =kD+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LDD3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rami rosen wrote: | Hello, | | I have the habbit of reading the lkml fom time to time. | | So,in a thread on somewhat a different topic, from the beginning of this | month, (3/1/05) I saw a message from one of the authors (Jonathan Corbet). | According to him at will be due at LinuxWorld in | Boston as other mentioned here; | Notice that according to the thread , a third author joined them (Greg | Kroach Hartman) , he is known for his contribution to Linux Kernel (he | is the maintainer of USB and PCI and others) ; and he is also known | for many articles he wrote (in lwn.net,linux journal and more). That's great. I have managed to find it at amazon.com (by an ISBN) and they list only one author -- J. Corbet. I thought, he will be the one to do the work of adaptation of the book to 2.6. Now I wonder what will be the fastest way to lay my greedy hands on it. :) - -- - ---- ~ Leonid Podolny | /"\ ~ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign ~ leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail ~ +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB+/+XfsTlJLFWufARArz7AJ9smWhja4u9Y7gkTKC4WHVCYSdFNgCbBZ2I O8MN/1kgxKhvi/ipUb/mh4E= =BJ+4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LDD3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: | Last I heard it will be launched during LinuxWorld in Boston in a | couple of weeks. That's great news -- I'm eagerly waiting. :)) - -- - ---- ~ Leonid Podolny | /"\ ~ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign ~ leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail ~ +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB+0r/fsTlJLFWufARAsxxAJ9UvyfPatYPuvafdKuiNAcf/zakfQCfb4nP PWMhVoRXFSNL4907t4y28Oo= =iMFI -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LDD3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Quoting today's issue of LWN.net (http://lwn.net/Articles/119063/): "If you are a Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition reader looking for information on changes since the book was published: LDD3 covers version 2.6.10 of the kernel, so only the changes starting with 2.6.11 are relevant." I wasn't aware of the third edition being out yet, so I went to Amazon and OReilly.com, and apparently they are not aware of it, either. Any idea what's going on? - -- - -------- ~ Leonid Podolny | /"\ ~ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign ~ leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail ~ +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB+htQfsTlJLFWufARAjR4AKCHl+W5Q23cnvGhsSJngngi0Te3LQCfV+TF weBn+V5yA95jou4zeJ5Khpc= =xxEr -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Tcpdump question
-Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:38:51 +0200 Subject: Re: Tcpdump question > > Leonid Podolny wrote: > > > Hi, list, > > I seem to miss something basic about working with tcpdump. > > I have some system producing multicast IP traffic and I'm trying to > > watch it with tcpdump on my computer. (I can elaborate on the details > > of the traffic producer if it's needed). The point is that I have > > inbound flow of IP packets with src ip 192.168.135.2 and dst ip > > 224.3.0.25. > > Now, the questions: > > 1)The RX counter on the reciever interface is not being increased > > unless I manually put an interface into promiscuos mode (with ifconfig > > eth1 promisc). I was always sure that tcpdump does it by itself. > > 2)If I do put it into promiscuos mode manually, the RX reciever is > > being increased, but I still can't see the packets with tcpdump. In > > order to see them, the interface must have IP that begins with > > 192.168.135.x, which is totally illogical, since I have to recieve all > > ethernet frames, even if I don't have any IP on this computer. > > > I have never done multicast, so excuse me if I get something wrong. > Isn't a multicast address just a routing manipulation? Shouldn't the > hardware device still have a unicast address, even if it is > participating in a multicast ring? > Of course, it does. It usually has an ip at 192.168.0.x subnet, but as I stated, tcpdump wouldn't see packages I put in 192.168.135 subnet. I think I'll still have to reveal the whole picture here. I have a PC with a NIC (eth0) and a satellite interface.Linux sees the satellite card as an ordinary network interface (aba0). I configured a 802.1d bridging between two interfaces and I have another PC connected with a cross-over cable to the eth0 interface. When I look on the traffic upon aba0 interface, I can see the following: Layer 2: src 0:0:0:0:0:0, dst 01:00:5e:x:x:x. I don't have the exact address at hand right now, but the point is that it's a multicast. Layer 3: src 192.168.135.2 dst 224.3.0.25. As far as I understand, the bridge should simply broadcast the multicast frames on the eth0. The promiscuous NIC on the other side of the cross-over cable should recieve all the packets and show them all in tcpdump, even if it doesn't have IP configured. Sorry for the messy explanation. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tcpdump question
Hi, list, I seem to miss something basic about working with tcpdump. I have some system producing multicast IP traffic and I'm trying to watch it with tcpdump on my computer. (I can elaborate on the details of the traffic producer if it's needed). The point is that I have inbound flow of IP packets with src ip 192.168.135.2 and dst ip 224.3.0.25. Now, the questions: 1)The RX counter on the reciever interface is not being increased unless I manually put an interface into promiscuos mode (with ifconfig eth1 promisc). I was always sure that tcpdump does it by itself. 2)If I do put it into promiscuos mode manually, the RX reciever is being increased, but I still can't see the packets with tcpdump. In order to see them, the interface must have IP that begins with 192.168.135.x, which is totally illogical, since I have to recieve all ethernet frames, even if I don't have any IP on this computer. -- -------- Leonid Podolny | Email:leonidp(at)vboxcomm.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications | Phones: +972-9-950-2821 ext. 120 Linux Drivers Department |+972-54-5696948 PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridging question
Forgot to state, the kernel in question is 2.4.18. On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Leonid Podolny wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Hi, list, I have a very simple question that I fail to answer. Suppose I use a Linux box as a bridge. It connects two segments of the netwerk, etc. The question is if it supports the ethernet broadcasts and multicasts correctly? For example, will ARPs run correctly over the bridge? -- Leonid Podolny | Email:leonidp(at)vboxcomm.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications | Phones: +972-9-950-2821 ext. 120 Linux Drivers Department |+972-54-5696948 PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 --[PinePGP]--- Signature made Sun Dec 5 13:01:25 2004 IST using DSA key ID B156B9F0 Good signature from "Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" --[PinePGP][end]-- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bridging question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, list, I have a very simple question that I fail to answer. Suppose I use a Linux box as a bridge. It connects two segments of the netwerk, etc. The question is if it supports the ethernet broadcasts and multicasts correctly? For example, will ARPs run correctly over the bridge? - -- - ~ Leonid Podolny | Email:leonidp(at)vboxcomm.com ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications | Phones: +972-9-950-2821 ext. 120 ~ Linux Drivers Department |+972-54-5696948 - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBsuqFfsTlJLFWufARAp68AJ4uy+QT8a1RV07O3tAcnd7Nq23lKwCght1X Dx2IBUiLCe+CGPSphjS19gQ= =6FkM -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail question
guy keren wrote: take a 'mailbox' containing a single problematic letter, run it via 'formail' (without using procmail - tell it to output to a file or to stdout) and diff the results. my guess is you'll see what breaks your procmail filter on the spot. I'm sorry, diff results of what against what? L. -------- Leonid Podolny | /"\ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail +972-54-5696948 | / \ PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, list, As usual, I seem to miss something basic :) Basically, this is what goes on: one specific mailing list messages are falling through procmail filters and get delivered to my inbox. If I sort the inbox with formail, the very same procmail configuration delivers this mailing list. The mailing list in question happens to be LKML, so this issue is quite painful. My configuration is as following: fetchmail is running as daemon, brings the mail, submits it to postfix, and posfix gives it to procmail for local delivery. This chain works for about 20 procmail recipes, and fails for lkml. - Procmail recipe is this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ grep -A1 -B1 vger ./.procmailrc :0: * ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail/lkml - ~From the procmail log on relevant entry: [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ grep -A1 -B1 X-M procmail.leonid.log procmail: No match on "^X-list: linux-il" procmail: No match on "^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" procmail: No match on "^X-list: netdev" - ~From the the headers of the last mail: Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at technion.ac.il - If I copy the /var/spool/mail/leonid file aside, and then run "formail - -s procmail < inbox.tmp" on it, the filtering works like a charm. ~L. - -- - -------- ~ Leonid Podolny | /"\ ~ | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign ~ leonidp(at)gmail.com |x Against HTML Mail ~ +972-54-5696948 | / \ - PGP fingerprint: 51B2 F1DB 485E 2C48 2E17 94D1 7EC4 E524 B156 B9F0 PGP key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB156B9F0 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBTF1LfsTlJLFWufARAkUGAJoCsuVBhcBG+CbzEYZqqVmyeERT2QCeP90Q g3SQ1f/JobQ3ww/pjsSb5lE= =auEO -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Redhat ISOs
Offer Kaye wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, Do anyone now where I can found old RedHat releases? Specifically, I need 5.2 and especially 6.0. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.0/en/iso/ directory is empty. Tried to google it around, but none could be found. http://redhat.lsu.edu/5.2/iso/ Google is *my* friend ;-) Yep, that was brought up here before :) Downloading it at the moment. When I was googling for it, I concentratred on 6.0 images -- those I need urgently. Luckily, seems like our fellow list member Kfir Lavi has those disks. Thank you, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Redhat ISOs
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, Do anyone now where I can found old RedHat releases? Specifically, I need 5.2 and especially 6.0. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.0/en/iso/ directory is empty. Tried to google it around, but none could be found. I can understand why you would want 5.2. It was one of their best release. Why on earth would you want 6.0 The company I started working for uses rh6-based reduced system for one of its products. This whole system is a legacy begging to be rewritten from scratch. However, I need to build a PC (compilations, debugging) to be the exact copy of the system -- same kernel (!!), same glibc, etc . And for that I need an installation disk. ;) In any case, I seem to have old 6.0 and 5.2 CDs (one of each - I hope it's enough. I also hope the discs are still good). If you can't find it elsewhere, I'll try to put it up somewhere for you to d/l from. I'll try to continue looking for them in a more traditional manner. If I don't find them, I'll be very grateful to use your offer. Thank you very much. L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Redhat ISOs
Hi, Do anyone now where I can found old RedHat releases? Specifically, I need 5.2 and especially 6.0. ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.0/en/iso/ directory is empty. Tried to google it around, but none could be found. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Kernel news" source
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Firstly, no. Can you please elaborate? Reading 3,000 messages a month mailing list seems not too useful for me (as a beginning drivers developer), but I'd be happy to hear your opinion about it. > Secondly: > - kerneltrap.org covers the important stuff (FSVO imoprtant) I've been subscribed for that one for a while. > - kerneltraffic > (http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/index.html) covers the > important threads (FSVO important) Great one, thanks. > - lwn.net's kernel page provides valuable explanations and covers the > important stuff (FSVO, etc). I have an account there for quite a long time. One more thing, is #kernelnewbies project dead? There mailing list page is inaccessible, wiki gives error 404, and the issues archive stops somewhere deep in 2.5 series. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Kernel news" source
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > http://lwn.net/ > > The weekly news require subscription (for a period of 10 days) but > they are well worth it. Includes a Kernel coulumn. > I have an account there since that image editors issue you recommended me. As far as I understand, the only advantage of being subscribed is to recieve the issues 10 days before they are actually released to the public. Oh, and helping right cause, of course. :) It's not that there are issues that they restrict from non-subscribers. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Kernel news" source
Hi, list, I'm a newbie in the linux kernel programming. I can see that things constantly undergo pretty drastic changes. Is there a single source of information where I can recieve news like "2.6.x is out, this API and that API are changed, you should now use that function instead of this function" from? Subscribing to lkml seems like a huge overkill to me. Cheers, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT]Mail account
Hi, list, I'm sorry to start an off-topic thread very similar to the one that was here only a week ago or so, but the discussion on "Israeli hosting" looked quite objective and argumentative. Being sick and tired with current mailboxes I have, I wish to find another place to hold my mailbox. I've seen prepositions that answer these criteria, but I'm sure someone on the list has positive experience with some particular company. Mandatory stuff: * Reliable (as close to 100% availability time as possible) * Fast * Being able to recieve mail for my hostname * POP3 and IMAP access * No incoming spam filtering (or ability to turn it off, I happen to hate not recieving my mail) Optional (but appreciated) stuff: * Kahol-lavan * DNS hosting for my hostname (for extra charge, of course) * shell account L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will someone unsubscribe the job advertiser, please?
Herouth Maoz wrote: > I'm speaking of the automated job4all message that's being sent in two copies > every Sunday. > That explains it. I was asking myself, how come I started recieving those to my job email address a couple of days after I changed my job. L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RHEL missing components rant
Yonah Russ wrote: Henry Ficher wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: RHEL WS (workstation) doesn't come with mysql-server except via the extras but RHEL AS (advanced server) does of course come with mysql-server. Just rechecked it. There is no mysql-server package in any of the three RHEL distributions. However, in mysql package (supplied in all three of them) there is a weird mysqld_multi binary which, when started, complains about a lack of mysqld. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/RedHat_AS3]$ls | grep -i mysql | xargs rpm -qpl | grep mysqld /usr/bin/mysqld_multi /usr/bin/mysqldump /usr/bin/mysqldumpslow /usr/share/doc/mysql-3.23.58/mysqld_error.txt /usr/share/man/man1/mysqld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mysqld_multi.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mysqldump.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/safe_mysqld.1.gz /usr/include/mysql/mysqld_error.h I can't vouch for the other packages but you can't really blame redhat for leaving servers out of their workstation distribution. yonah If you talk about the packages, there is hardly any difference between three RHELs. They differ in five components or so, none of which are actual program packages. It's the support which differs. So, strictly speaking, it's not "server" or "workstation" distribution. And the lack of the majority of user programs I'd expect from a distro is REALLY frustrating. L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux distribution for black-box type firewall/router
Omer Zak wrote: While the user is naive, the installer (his sysadmin) is not. As far as I understand, the reason why Oded started this thread was to be the installer, not the sysadmin. The suggestion to use a dedicated router eliminates two important advantages of DIY (Do It Yourself) Linux installation: 1. Access to security updates under your control and at your pace. Exactly what I am talking about. He doesn't need security updates. (Before you punch me at the face, keep in mind, that I'm not talking about linux geeks like us, but about average home user). The average home user has one major security concern: he doesn't want to be attacked by all those Windows worms out there. Having NAT, it's not a concern. He needs to explicitly open the RPC (SMB, uPNP, etc, etc) port on the router in order to have his PC infected. 99% of home users will never do it. Those who will -- smart enough to be responsible for their actions. All the linux security updates are also irrelevant here. It's not that the attacker will obtain shell on the router and then attack the home network or "execute arbitrary code" via remote vulnerablity. I doubt that these routers even allow remote access. Why would they? If you can scan vast ip ranges and find thousands of windows machines yelling "hack me!", the potential cracker won't bother looking for a specific openssl vulnerability in specific firmware version of a specific model of some taiwan company. > 2. Ability (in principle) to audit the router's software to ensure > that there are no hidden backdoors. Backdoors by whom? The manufacturer wouldn't intentionally leave backdoors -- he cares too much about its reputation. It must be relatively easy to check what is in there. And if such a thing comes out, he will instantly be out of business. And all to be able to steal a precious mp3s collection from poor home user. Forgot to state something important in my original mail. The dedicated router is much more reliable and practical. PCs tend to have hardware failures, consume much power, take space, make a lot of noise, accumulate dust etc. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux distribution for black-box type firewall/router
Oded Arbel wrote: On Monday 12 April 2004 02:04, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Oded, debian is the only distro which you can trust with packages. It comes with a price: hard install + no gui. I'm really sick with all the Debian bias on this list. there are other distros out there, some are very good and some are better then Debian - at least for some purposes. I sure can trust Mandrake, SuSE and other distros with pacakges - and they **have** easy graphical installers. I've used Debian in the past, and I'd probably use it again in the future, but my take on it is that unless you are a linux freak with at least 2 years hard linux admin under your belt, and assuming the box you install isn't for playing around with Linux installation and administration problems, then Debian isn't for you. I haven't heard such a thing on this list for a long time. For some reason, people fail to understand that the goal defines the means of achieving it, not vice versa. If one of the basic requirements is "easy installation (next,next,next)" and "web-based configuration", then how come that people advise him not to "be lazy" and install all the hard way. When a linux guru installs a router on his home network, he should use debian or gentoo, so that he will get all updates in time and be able to do the advanced stuff he wants, that goal-oriented distros, like those mentioned earlier, usually do not provide (static routes, VPN, etc). Now to the subject. I'm going to sound the extremely heretical idea. Not everyone needs a Linux router for that. What I'd do in such situation is get them a dedicated router specially designed for that matter. I don't mean the PC with Linux installed, but a little box the size of the adsl modem, which all it is able to do is to be an adsl (or cable) router. It's very cheap (~300 NIS) and usually has Linux somewhere deep inside -- it's not that its manufacturers want to implement everything from the beginning. You configure the computers to use DHCP, plug them in, plug the modem -- it works. It surely meets all the basic requirements you've specified at the original mail. The only one of your requirements that it doesn't meet is being able to show her how Linux is installed. Install it on that p133 box you wanted to use and you're done Cheers, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Israeli Gentoo mirror
Hi, list, Today I've paid attention there is an israeli download mirror for Gentoo at http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/gentoo/. Thought it will be useful to all the gentooers out there. L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnu.org
The site seems to be back. It's weird that I heard nothing about it being down. Gal Gur-Arie wrote: I'm connected via 013, I also checked it from a machine located in the US - i can NOT access this site. It is possible that your friend's browser has some cached pages. Cheers, Gal Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, list, Gnu.org behaves really weird since yesterday. I can't access it neither from home, nor from work. Some friend of mine tried and accessed it without any problem. The problem seems to be ISP connected -- both at home and at work I access the net through 012, and that friend uses 014. Any ideas anyone? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnu.org
Hi, list, Gnu.org behaves really weird since yesterday. I can't access it neither from home, nor from work. Some friend of mine tried and accessed it without any problem. The problem seems to be ISP connected -- both at home and at work I access the net through 012, and that friend uses 014. Any ideas anyone? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless keyboard and mouse
Shachar Shemesh wrote: David Sapir wrote: Hi, I would like to buy a wireless keyboard and mouse for a Linux RH9 machine. Has any of you tried it before? Does anyone know of a problem with this? Are there "good" and "bad" models/types? Your answers are highly appreciated. Thanks, David. Havn't tried any of them myself. Logitec, however, come highly recommended, both on the battery's life front and the ergonomic front. Sadly, they do not produce ergonomic keyboards that are not wireless. The only reason I'm still using a Microsoft keyboard. It seems that MS's input devices suffer from the same problem their software suffer from - they seem much better than everyone else until you actually try out the right competitor. I switched my mouse to logitec and am VERY pleased with the ergonomics. Shachar I use a MS keyboard and mouse for three years or so and very happy with it. If only their operating systems would be as good :) Currently I use a wireless natural keyboard and mouse, the tactile experience is the best, keyboards eats one pair of alkaline batteries a year (!), mouse needs a battery change once in two months or so. Sadly, I started having some issues with its USB connection (as you can see from my letter to list on 14/02/2004), so I ended up using ps/2 connection :(. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB keyboard issue
Hi, list, I have recently switched to a new motherboard and a cpu in my computer. In the previous one I was using the usb keyboard and mouse and it was working fine. After I switched to a new motherboard I started having problems. At Windows, both the keyboard and mouse work perfectly. At linux, the system boots without showing any unusual messages, but right after the login prompt it starts printing the endless sequence of '%' characters. The keyboard works, i.e. I can type whatever I want, but the %'s get between any two-three letters I type. If I plug the keyboard out, it stops, but resumes a couple of seconds after I plug it in. If I connect the keyboard through the ps/2 connector, it works -- that's how I type this letter. I'm completely clueless, even google shows nothing :) Cheers, L. PS. From 'lspci -v': 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at eec0 [size=32] 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at ef00 [size=32] 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at febff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] #0a [20a0] PPS: From .config: # USB support # CONFIG_USB=y # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set # # USB Host Controller Drivers # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # # USB Human Interface Devices (HID) # CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # CONFIG_HID_FF is not set CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y # CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set # CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set # CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB keyboard issue
Hi, list, I have recently switched to a new motherboard and a cpu in my computer. In the previous one I was using the usb keyboard and mouse and it was working fine. After I switched to a new motherboard I started having problems. At Windows, both the keyboard and mouse work perfectly. At linux, the system boots without showing any unusual messages, but right after the login prompt it starts printing the endless sequence of '%' characters. The keyboard works, i.e. I can type whatever I want, but the %'s get between any two-three letters I type. If I plug the keyboard out, it stops, but resumes a couple of seconds after I plug it in. If I connect the keyboard through the ps/2 connector, it works -- that's how I type this letter. I'm completely clueless, even google shows nothing :) Cheers, L. PS. From 'lspci -v': 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at eec0 [size=32] 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at ef00 [size=32] 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at febff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] #0a [20a0] PPS: From .config: # USB support # CONFIG_USB=y # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set # # USB Host Controller Drivers # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # # USB Human Interface Devices (HID) # CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # CONFIG_HID_FF is not set CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y # CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set # CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set # CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB keyboard issue
Hi, list, I have recently switched to a new motherboard and a cpu in my computer. In the previous one I was using the usb keyboard and mouse and it was working fine. After I switched to a new motherboard I started having problems. At Windows, both the keyboard and mouse work perfectly. At linux, the system boots without showing any unusual messages, but right after the login prompt it starts printing the endless sequence of '%' characters. The keyboard works, i.e. I can type whatever I want, but the %'s get between any two-three letters I type. If I plug the keyboard out, it stops, but resumes a couple of seconds after I plug it in. If I connect the keyboard with the ps/2 connector, it works -- that's how I type this letter. I'm completely clueless, even google shows nothing Cheers, L. PS: My configuration is as follows: P4 2.8Ghz, P4P800, USB controllers as mentioned below, Gentoo Linux, kernel 2.6.2. PPS. From 'lspci -v': 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at eec0 [size=32] 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at ef00 [size=32] 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB USB2 (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 80a6 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at febff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] #0a [20a0] PPPS: From .config: # USB support # CONFIG_USB=y # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set # # USB Host Controller Drivers # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # # USB Human Interface Devices (HID) # CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # CONFIG_HID_FF is not set CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y # CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set # CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set # CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] ADSL Router
Good evening, I've decided to replace the box I use as an ADSL router -- too much space, too much noise. I want to buy the dedicated ADSL router and I would like to recieve recommendations for the specific brand/model. The minimum requirements are: * NAT (duh!) * being able to connect via PPPoE (I have an ECI modem) * static NAT entries (i.e. I would like to be able to forward all the incoming traffic on port 22 to the specific computer) -- VERY improtant, that's exactly the reason why I don't use the modem itself as a router. * cheap -- below 200-300 NIS. * being available at Israel. Nice extras: * more than one network connection, so that I will not have to connect the switch to it. -- Cheers, L. /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign x Against HTML Mail / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL, 012, ECI etc
Shaul Karl wrote: Aren't pon* and plog debian specific? Did I miss the original poster mentioning of the distribution he is using or did he in fact haven't mentioned it? In any case, the distribution one is using is yet one more item that is worth mentioning. The distribution is gentoo. They "dial" and disconnect using the adsl-start and adsl-stop scripts, as provided with rp-pppoe, and there is /etc/init.d/rppoe script which wraps those two. I will be able to post more data when I'll be at home, and I'm afraid it will happen not sooner than tomorrow evening. Thanks, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL, 012, ECI etc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the IP of the modem - it's not relevant - "PPPoE" means "PPP over Ethernet", i.e. the modem and the host interface through which you talk to it doesn't need an IP address configured since the data is passed over "raw" ethernet packets. As far as I understand, PPPoE stands for the following concept: there is regular ethernet connection between the box and the modem, and the PPP traffic is wrapped in ethernet packets, so my point at ppp connection is my box, and not my modem. Thus, the computer needs to know the modem's IP. Tell me, what I'm missing. Thank you, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL, 012, ECI etc
Forgot to mention: there is also a pppoe kernel option. Can't I just use the ordinary ppp dialer instead of rp-pppoe? The adsl-script doesn't ask for the IP address of the modem, but only the interface. So I must miss something important. Leonid Podolny wrote: Sorry for the half-written mail I sent previously :( I intend to build router for my home network. It's supposed to be a bit more versatile than the ECI modem I have, which can also function as the router. So, I intend to use it in the regular PPPoE mode. Tried to configure it to run out-of-the-box, with the adsl-setup script that is bundled with rp-pppoe. It is not working, so I have to start digging. :) I wondered, maybe someone can tell me the main steps of the configuration. Thank you, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ADSL, 012, ECI etc
Sorry for the half-written mail I sent previously :( I intend to build router for my home network. It's supposed to be a bit more versatile than the ECI modem I have, which can also function as the router. So, I intend to use it in the regular PPPoE mode. Tried to configure it to run out-of-the-box, with the adsl-setup script that is bundled with rp-pppoe. It is not working, so I have to start digging. :) I wondered, maybe someone can tell me the main steps of the configuration. Thank you, L. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ADSL, 012, ECI etc
Hi, I intend to build router for my home network. It's supposed to be a bit more versatile than the ECI modem I have, which can also function as the router. So, I intend to use it in the regular PPPoE mode. Tried to configure it to run out-of-the-box, with the adsl-setup script that is bundled with rp-pppoe. It is not working = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I had a very strange problem with this chipset, like, it was recognized as adevice, the interface would come up, but there was no network connection. Itall got fixed when I left out all the APIC optionsat the kernel (local apic,io-apic, etc). "noapic" kernel option didn't help.- Original Message - From: "Yehuda Berlinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:39 PMSubject: Having problems recognizing a sis900 ethernet using Libranet 2.7> We are trying to install Libranet 2.7 onto a fresh PC, and the configwon't recognize our on board sis900 ethernet chip (motherboard K7SOM+). Hasanyone else ever had this type of problem? Sis.com tells me that the chipshould be Linux compatible. We verified that support is compiled into thekernel (it should be dynamically loadable).>> And Windows has no problem recognizing it.>> What other information do I need to give, and where can I get help? Allhelp appreciated!>> Yehuda Berlinger>> => To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: X Forwarding via SSH
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Is "xauth" installed on the remote machine? [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ which xauth /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ What does "echo $XAUTHORITY" give? There is no such variable. (?!) Is there a ~/.Xauthority file? [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ ls ./.Xauthority -lh -rw---1 leonid users 100 Nov 18 14:23 ./.Xauthority [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ try running "xauth list" - what is the output? [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ xauth list lenik.lan:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 51442241782b5025c493d953c9e75284 lenik/unix:10 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 a44b010773d3ea6731c100fae04a338e [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ "lenik" is the hostname of this computer. If you wish to obfuscate your IPs, at least indicate which is the server and which is the client IP you are using. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Forwarding via SSH
Arik Baratz wrote: Leonid, Can you please do ssh -X to the machine, and then: echo $DISPLAY will give you something along the lines of "localhost:10.0" [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ Then take the number after the ':' (10 in this example) and add 6000 to it, and run telnet: telnet localhost 6010 [EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ su - Password: lenik root # netstat -lntp Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:40000.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:40010.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:40020.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:68820.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:40800.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:47210.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1282/sshd tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:46620.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1121/mlnet tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1241/ tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:6010 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 31614/ Replace the 6010 with the number you got (if it's different than 10). Let us all know what that gives you - the exact error message. Can you also do iptables -L -v -n and mail the result? I'm assuming that the machine has iptables. The ipchains command is very similar. lenik root # iptables-save # Generated by iptables-save v1.2.8 on Tue Nov 18 13:50:24 2003 *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [7248:493703] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [7557:528586] COMMIT # Completed on Tue Nov 18 13:50:24 2003 lenik root # iptables -L -v -n Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 7295 packets, 497K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 7588 packets, 532K bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination lenik root # My usual configuration of iptables allows all connections from localhost, but i removed all rules nevertheless for the testing, and no good. My current guess is that you have ipchains/iptables rules on computer "A" that prevent local users from connecting to port 6010 from localhost, but that needs to be confirmed. What's baffeling to me is that the error message mentions the socket() function rather than the connect() function as I would expect in the case that my assumption is correct. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. PortAuthority(TM) Server Keeping Information Inside Vidius, Inc. www.vidius.com ** === To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
